Does Pornography exploit Women's bodies?, Please be mature in this |
Aug 27 2009, 02:09 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 26-August 09 Member No.: 59 740 Active Squad |
Since you are using the term "exploit", then no. The woman choose to reveal their bodies to the world, and therefore there is nothing about them being exploited.
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Aug 29 2009, 07:48 PM
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Pokemon Hatcher ~ Savior Group: Members Posts: 339 Joined: 17-July 09 From: Ireland Member No.: 47 385 Drift |
It totally up to the person themselves. If they wanna get naked and pose infront of a camera . So be it . But no one should be forced .
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Aug 31 2009, 02:59 AM
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Pokémon Champion Group: +Donors Posts: 3 057 Joined: 28-June 09 From: Smog Central, CA Member No.: 39 978 hue |
If its by choice let them do it.I believe if its by choice and harms noone then its ok.
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Sep 4 2009, 04:37 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 10-August 09 Member No.: 55 617 Active Squad |
It's a choice like every other. I think people have to be responsible for their own action. This applies to men in the business as well :P
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Sep 4 2009, 10:31 AM
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Zenith Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 29-May 09 Member No.: 28 379 Anti-Wymsy Team |
I do believe I just witnessed a double post...
pornography is simply a ways to make money, if a man or woman so wishes to participate in it, that's there business. We have no right to judge them. Yes, I did say man or woman. Saying that only women participate in pornography is a lie, and an extremely sexist remark. -------------------- |
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Sep 6 2009, 02:04 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: 7-June 09 From: Virginia Member No.: 31 830 Active Squad |
ex⋅ploit [ik-sploit]
–verb (used with object) 1. to utilize, esp. for profit; turn to practical account:to exploit a business opportunity. Let's break this down using the definition, shall we? Now, as you can see exploit is a verb that is used with an object (in this case a woman's body). To utilize, that means to use, esp. for a profit, that means specifacally for a gain of wealth. Ok, so does pornography use a woman's body to gain wealth? Let's see, you buy a subscription for a porn website which has a multitude of woman's bodies which the porn sites use to make a profit. So, you buying a subscription makes them a profit, and the porn sites are using the woman's bodies to do so. My conclusion would have to be yes, it does exploit a woman's body, and that is a fact. This post has been edited by John102: Sep 6 2009, 02:04 AM -------------------- |
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Dec 15 2009, 08:23 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Newbies Posts: 8 Joined: 7-July 09 Member No.: 43 601 Active Squad |
(You know what's funny?
Porn stars have more realistic bodies than super models. Me, I personally find porn completely fine, especially with my boyfriend. That's why I always find it so peculiar when girls says "oh, porn is bad only if you're in a relationship." It's kinda a dumb argument.) Err, I digress. I find pornography fine, and not exploiting at all! I actually find it quite liberating that women now have rights to be able to show our body now. In the Fifties, women could only be in bikinis, breasts shown were discouraged, and if you were caught with anything that was showing "down there", I believed you were fined, which I saw in a Bettie Page biography (who, by the way, liked modeling, but it conflicted with her beliefs.) However, I find this train of thought applies only if the person enjoys it, and WANTS to do it. And you know what? Some of the people who are in porn are intelligent, and creative. I don't know, that's just my opinion. Yeah, it's your choice, and more power to you if you like doing it. I would hate being stuck in a crummy job I hated, so people in porn shouldn't be criticized for being in a controversial job they love. I hope I didn't sound rude or inappropriate or anything. If I used inappropriate words, if so a mod can edit them out as they please. Now, what the MEDIA portrays women as, I could get in a huge debate about that. XD |
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Dec 17 2009, 07:21 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 9-October 09 From: England Member No.: 67 377 My Girl Crew |
There is the factor that some women are forced into doing it.
There are some areas where people are kidnapped and then forced to star in pornographic movies or prostitute themselves. However, if it is voluntary, it still exploits the woman's body but it means that they want to be exploited. -------------------- |
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Dec 17 2009, 04:54 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
But that's definitely not pornography's fault; just the people who forced them or kidnapped them.
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Jan 1 2010, 09:29 PM
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The fearsome and mighty Bobzilla! Group: Members Posts: 3 555 Joined: 5-October 09 From: England Member No.: 66 708 Bob's Team |
People might think I'm wrong, but my first thought when I read this topic title was 'does science exploit women's minds?'
The fact is that proper, mainstream, pornography (not, of course, amateur stuff that wouldn't exist in such quantiies if we all just got over ourselves and admitted that sex isn't a bad thing... digressing, digressing...) is, as people have said, a job that many people love doing. They aren't forced to do it - the idea is slightly silly, really. They made a choice, and that choice was that they were unashamed of their bodies and they liked sex, so they may as well make a living out of it. I'm not pretending that I know much about the subject, but women with attractive bodies have the right to use those bodies however they will. If we're talking about taking an object - the body of a woman - and using it to make profit, well... isn't that what a job is? Don't we take an object - the mind of a scientist - and use it for profit? I don't know. This all made so much more sense in my head. -------------------- Random awesome stuff that is awesome/Credit (click to show ) |
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Jan 2 2010, 05:36 PM
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the realest and cruelest Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 26-April 09 Member No.: 16 415 i can't do that dave |
Yes, it exploits the image of the human form to achieve its end, and the fact shouldn't be ignored that it also exploits male bodies as well, more often than not.
QUOTE that is because the majority of people working in the industry, are in fact women please. the gay porn industry is huge, not to mention the fact that there are male stars featured in any number of hardcore straight movies - sure, in straight male-oriented pornography the emphasis will always be more on the woman, but still. As far as I can tell commercial pornography today as an institution doesn't exploit individuals, considering everyone who works in the industry chooses to do so and presumably enjoys/has an interest in their line of work. When you get off the scripted track, though, ie Girls Gone Wild and other "reality" porn, I think the line between consent and non-consent becomes a little less clear. I'd consider GGW basically a visual form of date-rape, but hey, what can you do. Those girls get themselves into that situation - they sign the papers, whether they are aware of it or not. Unfortunate that there are scumbags out there so eager to take advantage of vulnerable people, but again, there's not much anyone can do, legally or otherwise. -------------------- |
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Jan 11 2010, 11:52 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 20-February 09 Member No.: 4 664 Active Squad |
I don't know any porn actresses, but I know a few strippers online and IRL (I don't really know how I keep meeting them - it's not at strip clubs :P), and all of them really like their job. I just can't see getting into the sex industry if you aren't fully aware of the repercussions.
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Jan 18 2010, 11:30 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 15-January 10 Member No.: 79 963 My Soulsilver Crew |
It's not just pornography, it's everything in general. TV, books, commercials - it all dubs women as articles. Sure, many enjoy and take advantage of that, but it's really just changed the way people look at each other. The amount of sexism around is just ridiculous.
But back on topic, before I drift off too far. From my perspective, no, it doesn't, but the world's is probably different. In my opinion, though, since people are different, a girl doing whatever she's doing in a video is just what she's into, and I don't relate that to every girl ever. While I'm not really attracted to that kind of stuff, I don't have anything against girls doing it, and if someone really takes it too far and ends up with an entirely wrong view of girls, then they probably weren't a loss anyway. |
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Jan 20 2010, 09:21 AM
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I'm the reason why you hate. Group: +Donors Posts: 63 Joined: 13-June 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 34 032 Blue's Army |
I think the amount of men who enter the system are about equal to women but anyone can make a porno, let's be frank.
Work (all of it) is nothing but selling your body. No, it is not exploiting women's bodies. There are a lot of married couples in the line of work and they enjoy it. Sure, sex now means something totally different to them and it may not happen as often but they are perfectly happy with each other. If anything people blow things way out of proportion. -------------------- |
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Jan 21 2010, 01:44 AM
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Captain of the KaiRei Ship Group: Members Posts: 397 Joined: 8-April 09 From: Vegas Member No.: 9 269 My top 6 Most wanted |
I actually find it empowering to some degree. I'm no porn star (way to antisocial for that shit) but if you're sober, and okay with it, why not?
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Feb 10 2010, 05:20 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 6-February 10 From: Legacy Member No.: 83 305 Al-Makfiya Ajlza |
Yes.
Plain and simple. It is wrong. I am a guy, I do not watch porn, because I do not think it is right, most of the people who do it don't have any alternatives and do it for Money that is much needed. some are recorded and put up without even realising that the other person involved was doing it. -------------------- |
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Feb 14 2010, 07:59 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 10-January 10 From: Clinton Twp. Michigan Member No.: 79 349 Active Squad |
personally no but the way people are integrated into society (ie religion, experiences and media) have a large effect on the way these people think.
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Feb 15 2010, 01:42 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 15-February 10 From: Southeastern US Member No.: 84 587 Active Squad |
exploit? no, most of the time these women going into the business willingly, .
but i don't like porn. in my opinion it's pretty degrading to women and some one said most porn stars have more realistic bodies than super models. well that's true, but most women still don't look like that. and men who watch porn from a fairly young age get this idea in their head that that's what a woman is supposed to look like and that's what sex is supposed to be like. well it's not. porn is just movies focusing on sex, as long as a guy can watch it and realize reality is nothing like that then fine but a lot of men watch it and then try to make it a reality and then in turn, women start feeling like they have to look like that, act like that, in order to be accepted. it's a subtle but very real cycle. I don't have a problem with porn, though i personally don't like it, i just don't have a problem with men who think that women should really be like that. though i do think that if a man is married and his wife has a problem with him watching porn, he shouldn't do it. -------------------- |
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Feb 16 2010, 04:25 AM
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Cynical Old Man Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 28-April 09 Member No.: 16 990 Active Squad |
Unless you're forced to act in such materials, it's your choice.
(as to being drunk in a GGW video, kinda your choice to get drunk) I'm sorry. I'm not sympathetic, especially to those who put themselves in the stew -------------------- |
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Feb 16 2010, 12:39 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 2-February 10 From: South West England. Member No.: 82 638 Active Squad |
As I'm sure many have said before me, pornography doesn't exploit women's bodies at all.
More and more women nowadays are aspiring to enter into the porn industry; less people are entering that line of work because they "have to" or because there's "no alternative". I'll hold my hands up and agree that it's common for girls to work in strip clubs to pay for education fees and stuff like that, but strangely enough there is actually a huge difference between stripping and having sex with someone for money. I can see why some people see it as being very empowering for women, but I personally don't see that appeal. I believe women are far more empowered when they are tastefully clothed - I'm not adverse to showing a little skin, but baring all is terribly dull and boring. I may be a grumpy young woman when I say this, but I believe it paints an unrealistic image of what a 'normal' woman's body looks like - most of the girls in the porn industry have been airbrushed and had other digital effects to iron out all their flaws and make them seem perfect. Although I know they don't really look like that, some guys will naively expect their girlfriends to look and act like that, and that both sickens and irritates me. But such is the ugly girl's vendetta against the media's portrayal of women.. and I'm getting off-track, so I'll stop typing now. -------------------- |
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