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EV/IV Training FAQ
Black Ice
post Jan 13 2008, 12:33 AM
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INTRODUCTION__________________________________________________________________

This is a guide thing that will hopefully cover everything you need to know about EV training. EV training can seem like a repetitive, arduous, tedious, and ultimately pointless journey. And for the most part, it is. Why not just get an Action Replay and Pokesav anything? Because you idiots have nothing better to do in your lives than spend time with pixels, that's why. Clearly. So for those of you who fall into this category, I, Black Ice, have organized a little guide for you guys.

We will cover all of the following topics in this portion of the guide:
  • Base stats
  • EVs / EPs (Effort Values / Effort Points)
  • IVs (Individual Values)
  • How to calculate IVs
  • Natures
There are more topics to look at, though. At the bottom of this post, I will have links to posts with more information on them.

If you still have questions or don't understand something then ask in this thread and I, or some other person with knowledge, will give you the best answer. Don't be shy to ask questions, because asking questions is one of the most efficient and obvious ways to get an answer.

Anyways, onto the guide.


Base Stat

A base stat is a statistical value on a Pokemon that stays consistent with all Pokemon of its species. All Tauros, for example, have a Base Attack Stat of 100 which somehow calculates to a raw attack stat of 205 by level 100. The only things that can change that are EVs, IVs, and natures, which can potentially change your final stat by more than 100. Pretty big gap, right? That's why it's so important to find a good nature, EV train, and possibly IV breed, to a lesser extent.

EVs / EPs (Effort Values / Effort Points)
A hidden value that helps determine a Pokemon's final stats. There are some general rules that EVs follow:
-4 EVs make up 1 stat point
-A total of 255 EVs can be invested into a single stat
-510 EVs is the max amount of total EVs for a single Pokemon.

Since 4 doesn't divide into 255 so easily, it's better to just give a Pokemon 252 EVs instead of the full 255 if you plan on maxing that stat out. Since 4 EVs equal 1 stat point, and you can invest a total of 255 EVs into one stat, that'll make 63 points (255 / 4 = 63.75, and it needs to round down).

IVs (Individual Values)
A hidden value that also helps determine a Pokemon's final stats, but not as much. The highest IV is 31, and the lowest is 0. For each IV you have, that's 1 stat point. Simple. So if you have a Garchomp with 252 Speed EVs and 31 IVs, you'll have 333 speed. If you have 0 IVs on that Garchomp, then your highest speed stat possible is 302 (333 - 31 = 302). Simple enough, right?

How to Calculate IVs
To calculate IVs in every stat but HP, all you have to do is follow a simple equation:

((Math.ceil(Stat / Nature) - 5) x 100 / Level) - 2 x Base Stat - Math.floor(EV / 4).

Math.ceil means to round up. Stat is your current stat number. Nature is the nature's effect on a certain stat (Adamant is 110% Attack, 90% Special Attack, so if you wanted to calculate Special Attack, you'd put .9). Level is your current level. Base Stat is a Pokemon's base stat of a certain stat (Shuckle, for example, has 20 Base HP). Math.floor means to round down. EV is your current EV investment (between 0 and 255). So, if I were to attempt to calculate my Lv. 100 Garchomp's IV in speed...

Garchomp, Lv. 100 - Jolly nature (252 EVs in Speed)
Garchomp has base 102 speed.
Jolly nature and 252 Speed EVs gives this Garchomp 333 Speed at Level 100.

((Math.ceil(333 / 1.1) - 5) x 100 / 100) - 2 x 102 - Math.floor(252 / 4)
((Math.ceil(302.72) -5) x 1) -2 x 102 - Math.floor(63)
((303 - 5) x 1) - 2 x 102 - 63
(298) - 204 - 63 = 31.

There you have it. My Garchomp has 31 IVs in speed.

To calculate IVs for your HP stat, you must use a different equation.

((Stat - Level - 10) x 100 / Level) - 2 x Base Stat - Math.floor(EV / 4)

Again, Stat is your current stat number, Level is your current level, and...I think 10...is a number. Base Stat is the base stat of the Pokemon (look around on Google or any other search engine for base stats of Pokemon). Math.floor means to round down. EV is the amount of EVs you put into that stat (in this equation, it'd be HP). Nature doesn't matter for calculating HP IVs.

So let's do Blissey with 252 HP EVs.

Blissey, Lv. 100 - 252 HP EVs
Blissey has base 255 HP.
With 252 HP EVs, this Blissey has 714 HP.

((714 - 100 - 10) x 100 / 100) - 2 x 255 - Math.floor(252 / 4)
((604) x 1) - 510 - 63
604 - 510 - 63 = 31

That Blissey has 31 HP IVs.

Natures
A nature increases one stat of a Pokemon by 10% and decreases another stat by 10%. For example, the Adamant nature increases Attack by 10% and decreases Special Attack by 10%, and Timid raises Speed by 10% and lowers Attack by 10%. The only natures that have no effect on stats at all are Bashful, Hardy, Docile, Quirky and Serious. They're generally not recommended for use.

I think that explains the basics.

MORE TOPICS___________________________________________________________________

These will link to more posts. Clearly.

~EV Training Items

~Table of EVs
~EV Training Hotspots: Wild Pokemon
~EV Training Hotspots: VS Seeker
~Pokerus
~Table of Natures
~EV Training in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness

If there's anything you'd like to see added, tell me and I'll consider it. For now though, I think this should cover all you need to know about EV training in the 3rd and 4th generation.

CREDITS_______________________________________________________________________

-Jorge Vergara (Alexcalibur) from GameFAQs for the VS Seeker hotspots
-Kenshin075 from GameFAQs for the list of Pokemon EV distributions
-Cherished Song from PIForums for helping me on a lot of stuff
-Me (Black Ice) for wasting 4+ hours of my life making this guide

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post Jan 13 2008, 12:35 AM
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EV TRAINING HOTSPOTS: VS SEEKER___________________________________________________

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--HP EVs--
Where:          Route 209.  She is standing at the top of the sand for the bike
Who:            Cowgirl Shelly
What they have: 5 Bidoof
Level:          Around Lv. 15
Total EVs:      5

Where:          Route 210
Who:            Bird Keeper Brianna
What they have: 2 Noctowl
Level:          Around Lv. 40
Total EVs:      4

Where:          Route 212
Who:            Fisherman Travis
What they have: 3 Barboach and a Shellos
Level:          ???
Total EVs:      4

Where:          Route 213
Who:            Tuber Jared
What they have: 3 Gastrodon
Level:          Around Lv. 50-55
Total EVs:      6

Where:          Route 219
Who:            Tuber Mariel
What they have: 2 Marill
Level:          Around Lv. 15
Total EVs:      4

  
--ATTACK EVs--

Where:          Route 203
Who:            Lass Madeline
What they have: 1 Staraptor, 1 Bibarel
Level:          Around Lv. 40
Total EVs:      5

Where:          Route 213
Who:            Swimmer Sheltin
What they have: 3 Gyarados
Level:          Around Lv. 30
Total EVs:      6

Where:          Route 214
Who:            PI Carlos
What they have: 1 Goldeen, 2 Seaking
Level:          Around Lv. 40
Total EVs:      5

Where:          Route 218
Who:            Fisherman Miguel
What they have: 2 Gyarados
Level:          Around Lv. 50
Total EVs:      4

Where:          Route 222
Who:            Fisherman Alec
What they have: 2 Gyarados
Level:          Around Lv. 50
Total EVs:      4

Where:          Route 222
Who:            Rich Boy Trey
What they have: 1 Luxio
Level:          Around Lv. 60
Total EVs:      2

Where:          Route 225
Who:            Ace Trainer Quinn
What they have: 1 Pinser, 1 Mightyena
Level:          Around Lv. 50
Total EVs:      4


--DEFENSE EVs--

Where:          Route 210
Who:            Ninja Boy Fabian
What they have: 3 Geodude
Level:          Around Lv. 20
Total EVs:      3

Where:          Route 212
Who:            Collector Dominique
What they have: 3 Geodude
Level:          Around Lv. 20
Total EVs:      3

Where:          Route 221
Who:            Collector Ivan
What they have: 3 Hippopotas
Level:          Around Lv. 50
Total EVs:      3


--SPECIAL ATTACK EVs--

Where:          Route 212
Who:            PKMN Ranger Jeffrey
What they have: 2 Prinplup
Level:          Around 20
Total EVs:      4

Where:          Route 212
Who:            Scientist Shaun
Need:           HM01 Cut
What they have: ???
Level:          ???
Total EVs:      6

Where:          Route 214
Who:            Psychic Mitchell
What they have: 1 Gengar, 1 Alakazam
Level:          Around Lv. 55
Total EVs:      6


Where:          Route 214
Who:            Collector Douglas
What they have: 3 Roselia
Level:          Around Lv. 25
Total EVs:      6


--SPECIAL DEFENSE EVs--

Where:          Route 210
Who:            Ninja Boy Davido
What they have: 1 Dustox
Level:          ???
Total EVs:      3

Where:          Route 230
Who:            Swimmer Sophia
Need:           HM03 Surf
What they have: 2 Mantyke
Level:          ???
Total EVs:      2

Where:          Route 230
Who:            Swimmer Mallory
Need:           HM03 Surf
What they have: 1 Seel, 1 Dewgong
Level:          ???
Total EVs:      3


--SPEED EVs--

Where:          Route 205
Who:            Fisherman Andrew
What they have: 6 Magikarp
Level:          Around Lv. 10
Total EVs:      6

Where:          Cycling Road, third male from the top
Who:            Cyclist John
What they have: 2 Staravia
Level:          Around Lv. 40
Total EVs:      4


EV Training Suggestions - VS Seeker
Basically, the more Pokemon there are, the better the trainer. So if you fight that guy with 6 Magikarp, it'll be better than that guy with 2 Staravia. By a long shot.

Also, this is assuming you have both the Power Items and Pokerus. I just don't wanna type it out all 6 times. It gets kinda redundant. Also, if you don't have Pokerus, then just multiply the amount of times you have to battle the person by 2. And if you don't have the Power Item but you have Pokerus, then just get a calculator out and get crackin'. If you don't have either, good luck.

HP Training
  • Cowgirl Shelly on Rt. 209. 50 EVs total, fight her 5 times, take off the Power Item, fight a random Bidoof. There you have it, 252 EVs.
  • Tuber Jared on Rt. 213. 42 EVs total, fight him 6 times. Better for higher-leveled Pokemon (around Lv. 45 and higher).

Attack Training
  • Swimmer Sheltin on Rt. 213. 36 EVs total. Fight him 7 times. Has Lv. 30 Pokemon.
  • Fisherman Alec is on Rt. 222. 24 EVs total. Fight one 10 times, then Rich Boy Trey. Has Lv. 50 Pokemon, so it's better if you want experience points.
  • Rich Boy Trey on Rt. 222. He gives out money. Lots of money. Like, around 10000 without an Amulet Coin.

Defense Training
  • Ninja Boy Fabian on Rt. 210. Also Collector Dominique on Rt. 212. Both have 3 Geodudes around Lv. 20. That's a total of 30 EVs. Battle one 8 times, and then find the last 12 yourself.
  • Collector Ivan on Rt. 221. 30 EVs total, same as above. Has Lv. 50 Pokemon, so come prepared.

Special Attack Training
  • Collector Douglas on Rt. 214. 36 EVs total. Battle him 7 times for the 252 EVs. Has Pokemon around Lv. 25.
  • Psychic Mitchell on Rt. 214. 24 EVs total. Battle him 10 times and find the other 12 yourself. Has Pokemon nearing Lv. 60, so if you want experience...there you go.

Special Defense Training

Sorry about Special Defense, I don't know the levels of the Pokemon yet. So I can't suggest anything else other than to battle Wild Pokemon. If somebody could check them for me, it'd be appreciated.


Speed Training
  • Fisherman Andrew on Rt. 205 (West of Eterna City). 60 EVs total. Has Pokemon around Lv. 10, but you could probably beat him with newly hatched Pokemon. The only place for Speed I'd recommend.


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Black Ice   EV/IV Training FAQ   Jan 13 2008, 12:33 AM
Black Ice   EV TRAINING HELPERS ______________________________...   Jan 13 2008, 12:33 AM
Black Ice   -WHICH POKEMON GIVE OUT WHICH EVs- CODE--HP EVs--...   Jan 13 2008, 12:34 AM
Black Ice   EV TRAINING HOTSPOTS______________________________...   Jan 13 2008, 12:35 AM
Black Ice   POKERUS___________________________________________...   Jan 13 2008, 12:36 AM
Black Ice   -Natures- [insert chit-chat crap] CODE -Atk ...   Jan 13 2008, 12:36 AM
Black Ice   -EV Training in Pokemon XD- CODEMt. Battle Area 7...   Jan 13 2008, 12:37 AM
Zerxer   Very nice so far. Sorry if you didn't want replies...   Jan 15 2008, 08:03 PM
Black Ice   Maybe we could put some of these things onto the s...   Jan 16 2008, 05:31 PM
MetalHealth   i still dont understand how you specific evs from ...   Feb 9 2008, 02:09 AM
Black Ice   QUOTE(MetalHealth @ Feb 9 2008, 02:09 AM)...   Feb 9 2008, 02:23 AM
MetalHealth   i see thank you very much, but when i said dont th...   Feb 9 2008, 02:37 AM
Black Ice   If you've fought random Pokemon then you can u...   Feb 9 2008, 11:11 AM
MetalHealth   QUOTE(Black Ice @ Feb 9 2008, 11:11 AM) I...   Feb 9 2008, 01:39 PM
Cole   I have done all of this yet I got +1 on speed ? I...   Feb 21 2008, 05:28 PM
Black Ice   Sometimes it depends on what Pokemon it is and at ...   Feb 25 2008, 11:04 PM
Raven   ... why wasn't this moved to General Pokemon? Mo...   Feb 26 2008, 04:15 PM
Black Ice   QUOTE(Raven @ Feb 26 2008, 04:15 PM) ... ...   Feb 26 2008, 04:32 PM
suzyk   Maybe because it's only meant for the Fourth G...   Feb 26 2008, 04:27 PM
Raven   EV Training in XD is pretty third generation from ...   Feb 26 2008, 05:36 PM
Black Ice   EV training hotspots for wild Pokemon, EV training...   Feb 26 2008, 10:22 PM
Raven   But the basics between the two are EXACTLY the sam...   Feb 27 2008, 03:57 PM
RAKKA   I'd add the route 212 to the HP training hotsp...   Mar 14 2008, 03:52 AM
Missy Artichoke   This is helpful, but still a little confusing over...   Aug 19 2008, 01:20 AM
the quiet quilava   stare at it long enough, it'll dawn on ya. on...   Aug 19 2008, 02:22 AM
Raven   Personally, the EV/IV configurator thing in NetBat...   Aug 19 2008, 02:36 PM
Vivimage   Some good hotspots in D/P: Attack: Valor Lakefron...   Dec 2 2008, 11:49 AM
MetroidHunter26   I have a question well alot. As far as I can tell ...   Jun 8 2009, 07:39 PM
Black Ice   QUOTE(MetroidHunter26 @ Jun 8 2009, 07:39...   Jun 23 2009, 08:34 AM
bigmac   QUOTE(Black Ice @ Jun 23 2009, 06:34 AM) ...   Jul 22 2009, 02:40 PM
bigmac   i have no idea how all this works can some one hel...   Jun 13 2009, 09:44 AM
xGVx   This was actually really helpful. I have a Dustox ...   Jun 23 2009, 07:21 PM
Silverwing   Im EV training a garchomp, I got the effort ribbon...   Jul 20 2009, 01:16 PM
Black Ice   That means you're done.   Jul 21 2009, 06:27 PM
Eeveeman84   Black Ice, the first post makes no sense to me at ...   Aug 8 2009, 09:04 AM
Black Ice   That's because you're looking at IVs, not ...   Aug 9 2009, 01:31 PM
Eeveeman84   So I just find out the base [I'll use speed as...   Aug 9 2009, 01:44 PM
Metakeru maelstom dragon   I have a question, say I was battling a machoke wi...   Aug 11 2009, 10:27 AM
Suikun   I'm not sure where you're getting 6 from. ...   Aug 11 2009, 11:02 AM
Metakeru maelstom dragon   my garchomp has a power bracer (+4) and he's b...   Aug 11 2009, 12:19 PM
Eeveeman84   QUOTE(me August 9th @ not sure what time)So ...   Aug 14 2009, 07:35 AM
Metakeru maelstom dragon   QUOTE(Eeveeman84 @ Aug 14 2009, 08:35 AM)...   Aug 20 2009, 08:59 AM
Suikun   Okay, then I guess it would just get 2 then. Also,...   Aug 20 2009, 07:50 PM
Metakeru maelstom dragon   QUOTE(Suikun @ Aug 20 2009, 08:50 PM) Oka...   Aug 24 2009, 11:57 AM
Steam   omg now i finally know what EV points are i can st...   Oct 28 2009, 05:56 PM
GoldenMagikarp   I have a question. Should I wait till my Pokemon a...   Nov 15 2009, 08:46 PM
raffprta   QUOTEI have a question. Should I wait till my Poke...   Feb 7 2010, 01:40 PM
Metakeru   I'm confused... when you say round up, does th...   Feb 22 2010, 02:42 PM
Black Ice   QUOTE(Metakeru @ Feb 22 2010, 02:42 PM) I...   Mar 15 2010, 08:42 PM
Metakeru   thanks! oh and theres some errors with the vs...   Mar 16 2010, 08:18 AM
Devicho   Just to confirm something: if I were to level up a...   Jun 18 2010, 08:49 PM
Black Ice   It'd gain the EVs as well.   Jun 30 2010, 11:51 PM
Senpo   Okay, this is probably a dumb question, but if you...   Jul 14 2010, 06:11 PM
Dar Ksereth   QUOTE(Senpo @ Jul 14 2010, 06:11 PM) Okay...   Oct 9 2010, 08:57 PM



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