Evolution or God?, Something every Forum should have... |
Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM
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Now, Evolution Theory or God? wich do u believe in? I wanna See some opinions before I post mine,so I can see the level of the discussion... =] LETS START DEBATING!!! -------------------- [align=center]Current Quest: Waiting...
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Aug 20 2008, 10:59 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
I think I'm interpreting it right, but I'm not totally sure. I know it doesn't demand answers, but I still have two cents in regards to it.
QUOTE What is the purpose of having ancestors, in the first place? Of course, there are very old fossils that exist today and obviously humans weren't around when said creatures were actually alive. But what if humans were created after? Is there a need for us to come from something? There's no purpose. It's tracking our scientific origins, more or less, and also explaining how every species may end up changing through time as well.
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Aug 21 2008, 01:32 PM
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Animator by day, Ponyland Overlord by night. Hide your children. Group: Validating Posts: 36 Joined: 18-August 08 From: Mexico City Member No.: 2 676 Active Squad |
There's no purpose. It's tracking our scientific origins, more or less, and also explaining how every species may end up changing through time as well. 'Species end up changing through time' is a very broad statement. It can mean that a horse will have spotted offspring, or it can mean that whales changed into horses. Change within a species is undeniable, but evolution does not provide with an answer of how a new species is born (let alone how the first living organism came into being). If it is to be based on science, then we take said changes as DNA mutations which happen to be loss of information, copying mistakes. Every time said changes occur, there is a visible change, which may or may not help the creature survive, but no new information is added into the DNA. Therefore an organism with a specific DNA will mutate and change over time but it will not gain new DNA information to produce wings, lungs, hooves and so forth (this, assuming said organism does not have these qualities already, of course). So, if we follow these mutations through time, eventually there won't be enough information to give the species a change and it will lead to extinction, not to evolution. This post has been edited by Missy Artichoke: Aug 21 2008, 01:34 PM |
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Shoutai Evolution or God? Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM
Swordsalmon QUOTE(the quiet quilava @ Aug 19 2008, 10... Aug 19 2008, 08:57 PM
Missy Artichoke No worries, TQQ. @Shoutai: In fact, the Bible its... Aug 20 2008, 10:13 PM
Raven Oh, Missy Artichoke... I have to refute some poin... Aug 20 2008, 10:32 PM
Missy Artichoke I forgot to mention that I didn't exactly mean... Aug 20 2008, 10:53 PM
Viktoriya1998 Evolution.If god made us,he'd known we'd k... Aug 21 2008, 06:35 AM
pokepurist I think god made everything and chose which ones w... Aug 21 2008, 04:56 PM
DethSlayr I believe in God, and that he created us. No matte... Aug 22 2008, 08:06 AM
Carmani I have no religion. I believe in chaos. Just a... Sep 29 2008, 08:22 PM
Crystal Phoenix I believe God made the Big Bang happen and gave Ea... Oct 3 2008, 08:33 PM
Filipe Couto i think it is theory beacause the«ey ara pokemon t... Oct 12 2008, 11:09 AM
ShivasDisciple I think that the big bang didn't just happen t... Oct 12 2008, 11:21 AM
Inu Ryu My father is a paster for a deaf church. I just go... Oct 12 2008, 11:42 AM
Wymsy QUOTE(Filipe Couto @ Oct 12 2008, 09:09 A... Oct 12 2008, 09:35 PM
Raven Late but I had a new thoughtwave. QUOTE'Speci... Oct 12 2008, 09:45 PM
Moist well doesn't that just blow my mind, raven... Oct 12 2008, 10:19 PM
The Serenity Spirit Myself, I don't believe in God. I think that e... Oct 24 2008, 12:42 PM
00Weaville Being a Catholic believing in GOD, I have had my d... Nov 21 2008, 06:15 AM
Pixie Evolution definately. It has been proven that evol... Feb 20 2009, 02:13 PM
November 11 I'm very much a man of science. But I also hav... Feb 20 2009, 06:20 PM
Twilight Spectrum Aw, pity that this topic has only been brought bac... Feb 22 2009, 04:47 AM
Nathan Graves QUOTEI'm in Biology AP this year, and the more... Feb 22 2009, 02:13 PM
Swordsalmon QUOTE(Nathan Graves @ Feb 22 2009, 01:13 ... Feb 22 2009, 04:19 PM
SR Meganium Forme I didn't want to have a lifelong argument, so ... Feb 22 2009, 08:09 PM
Shiraoi QUOTE(SR Meganium Forme @ Feb 22 2009, 08... Feb 23 2009, 10:09 AM
Polaris I believe in a little of both. They both make sens... Feb 24 2009, 08:26 AM
salochin I personally think that God created evolution so t... Apr 11 2009, 04:06 PM
Nathan Graves Yeah I'm not sure that's the most direct p... Apr 11 2009, 04:46 PM
Saya I'm an open-minded person, however I find that... Apr 11 2009, 09:12 PM
lightbird I'm a training scientist, so, I go for evoluti... Apr 13 2009, 10:05 AM
nebz5 I don't think its on or the other I think they... Apr 13 2009, 03:06 PM
Dys Tuvai One of the first things they teach you in Biology ... Apr 13 2009, 05:49 PM
Kassi For crying out loud. I'm not even going to be... Apr 13 2009, 07:22 PM
Nathan Graves humans came from monkeys, science is false Apr 13 2009, 08:51 PM
Crunch QUOTE(Kassi @ Apr 13 2009, 08:22 PM) For ... Apr 13 2009, 10:54 PM
Sarge Even THE POPE says that evolution is true. Serious... Apr 15 2009, 12:36 AM
Hikarii -Bows to Sarge and Kassi.- Apr 15 2009, 12:58 AM
trippy Because magic/let there be light beats years of sc... Apr 20 2009, 09:13 AM
Airotia I believe in Evolution. All the way. Something th... Apr 21 2009, 07:29 PM
FuzzieWuzzie QUOTE(Airotia @ Apr 21 2009, 08:29 PM) I ... May 23 2009, 01:03 PM
sportsfan666 well cant it be both O_o? god made mammals and who... Apr 21 2009, 08:10 PM
Yzarc Drowsnam QUOTE(sportsfan666 @ Apr 21 2009, 08:10 P... Apr 21 2009, 08:42 PM
Utradera Genesis God. I do believe in the Big-Bang theory, but th... Apr 21 2009, 08:15 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Utradera Genesis @ Apr 21 2009, 06... Apr 22 2009, 01:56 AM
Zoreta QUOTE(Utradera Genesis @ Apr 21 2009, 06... Apr 25 2009, 11:35 AM
lightbird QUOTE(Utradera Genesis @ Apr 22 2009, 03... Apr 22 2009, 01:11 AM
Seadragon Dear God, I hate topics like this. I personally be... May 26 2009, 05:13 PM
Grovyle Did you know that reptiles never stop growing unti... May 26 2009, 05:25 PM
RheaDark .... hahaha seriously dude where do you get this s... May 26 2009, 07:18 PM
yupui I'm a pantheist. Ergo, I make no distinction. ... May 26 2009, 07:30 PM
Grovyle @ Rheadark So God is my god, and time is your god.... May 26 2009, 09:51 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 07:51 PM) So... May 27 2009, 08:04 PM
RheaDark Time is not my "god." I don't beli... May 27 2009, 05:02 PM
Seadragon QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 27 2009, 05:02 PM) T... May 28 2009, 05:17 PM
LucarioandDiagla I don't believe in evoulution at all. It is no... May 27 2009, 05:25 PM
yupui QUOTE(LucarioandDiagla @ May 27 2009, 06... May 27 2009, 06:37 PM
lightbird I agree with Rhea. I've always been abashed ab... May 27 2009, 05:54 PM
geqcreature The only reason that we have religion is because w... May 27 2009, 06:11 PM
Thaliel First cmae creation, this then triggeres evolution... May 27 2009, 06:38 PM
Grovyle No I am not Eric Hovind. I do not know NEAR as m... May 27 2009, 08:38 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 27 2009, 06:38 PM) No... May 27 2009, 09:03 PM
Grovyle He knows a lot. Just not everything that everyone ... May 27 2009, 09:11 PM
laskuraska Life evolved, it was not created. The idea of a ma... May 27 2009, 09:15 PM
Grovyle Evolution! (click to showhide)Written by: Bruc... May 27 2009, 09:26 PM
RheaDark ... you're blaming evolution and science for s... May 27 2009, 09:42 PM
Sarge It's really funny how you're copy pasting ... May 27 2009, 10:37 PM
Grovyle I could go on and on in disproving evolution, but ... May 28 2009, 06:25 AM
RheaDark QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 28 2009, 06:25 AM) I ... May 28 2009, 10:08 AM
Connie I believe in evolution and i don't think god e... May 28 2009, 07:36 AM
Grovyle QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 27 2009, 05:02 PM) T... May 28 2009, 05:50 PM
RheaDark First you tell me that evolution doesn't suppo... May 28 2009, 07:51 PM
Grovyle No facts? Why then does the Earth look to have bee... May 28 2009, 08:05 PM
RheaDark lolwut? Do you know anything about Earth's hi... May 28 2009, 08:07 PM
Grovyle Google 'Arizona pictures from plane'. That... May 28 2009, 08:08 PM
RheaDark A picture =/= facts. I want text that explains yo... May 28 2009, 08:11 PM
Grovyle World-wide flood. < == text May 28 2009, 08:13 PM
RheaDark ... no, I mean a source. Do you know what a sourc... May 28 2009, 08:14 PM
Grovyle I got that picture 2 weeks ago. I can't rememb... May 28 2009, 08:16 PM
RheaDark Oh mai goodness. Who cares what the url is? I... May 28 2009, 08:18 PM
Grovyle The Bible is one source. (you will say it is not f... May 28 2009, 08:21 PM
RheaDark Of course. It's a mere storybook. It is not ... May 28 2009, 08:46 PM
Grovyle I believe it is, so it is evidence for me. Please ... May 28 2009, 08:50 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 28 2009, 06:50 PM) I ... May 30 2009, 07:13 PM
RheaDark I believe it is, so it is evidence for me. You bel... May 28 2009, 08:57 PM
Seadragon QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 28 2009, 08:57 PM) I... May 31 2009, 09:44 AM
Kurai H Grovyle, the reason Arizona looks like it was once... May 31 2009, 12:14 AM
Aku Considering we're on a Pokemon forum... should... May 31 2009, 10:04 AM
RheaDark SeaDragon, I don't recall directing that post ... May 31 2009, 12:32 PM
Seadragon QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 31 2009, 12:32 PM) S... May 31 2009, 06:19 PM
Crunch QUOTE(Seadragon @ May 31 2009, 07:19 PM) ... May 31 2009, 06:34 PM
Justice The year is 2014 and I'm still trying to inven... May 31 2009, 12:50 PM
Doomeh QUOTE(Justice @ May 31 2009, 12:50 PM) Cr... May 31 2009, 10:42 PM
RheaDark "science actually backs up Creation more so t... May 31 2009, 12:55 PM
lightbird QUOTE(Justice @ May 31 2009, 06:50 PM) No... May 31 2009, 02:42 PM
RheaDark Okay then - I can admit when I get factual informa... May 31 2009, 03:11 PM
Crunch QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 28 2009, 09:13 PM) Wo... May 31 2009, 04:49 PM
Swordsalmon QUOTE(the quiet quilava @ Aug 19 2008, 10... Aug 19 2008, 08:57 PM
Missy Artichoke No worries, TQQ. @Shoutai: In fact, the Bible its... Aug 20 2008, 10:13 PM
Raven Oh, Missy Artichoke... I have to refute some poin... Aug 20 2008, 10:32 PM
Missy Artichoke I forgot to mention that I didn't exactly mean... Aug 20 2008, 10:53 PM
Viktoriya1998 Evolution.If god made us,he'd known we'd k... Aug 21 2008, 06:35 AM
pokepurist I think god made everything and chose which ones w... Aug 21 2008, 04:56 PM
DethSlayr I believe in God, and that he created us. No matte... Aug 22 2008, 08:06 AM
Carmani I have no religion. I believe in chaos. Just a... Sep 29 2008, 08:22 PM
Crystal Phoenix I believe God made the Big Bang happen and gave Ea... Oct 3 2008, 08:33 PM
Filipe Couto i think it is theory beacause the«ey ara pokemon t... Oct 12 2008, 11:09 AM
ShivasDisciple I think that the big bang didn't just happen t... Oct 12 2008, 11:21 AM
Inu Ryu My father is a paster for a deaf church. I just go... Oct 12 2008, 11:42 AM
Wymsy QUOTE(Filipe Couto @ Oct 12 2008, 09:09 A... Oct 12 2008, 09:35 PM
Raven Late but I had a new thoughtwave. QUOTE'Speci... Oct 12 2008, 09:45 PM
Moist well doesn't that just blow my mind, raven... Oct 12 2008, 10:19 PM
The Serenity Spirit Myself, I don't believe in God. I think that e... Oct 24 2008, 12:42 PM
00Weaville Being a Catholic believing in GOD, I have had my d... Nov 21 2008, 06:15 AM
Pixie Evolution definately. It has been proven that evol... Feb 20 2009, 02:13 PM
November 11 I'm very much a man of science. But I also hav... Feb 20 2009, 06:20 PM
Twilight Spectrum Aw, pity that this topic has only been brought bac... Feb 22 2009, 04:47 AM
Nathan Graves QUOTEI'm in Biology AP this year, and the more... Feb 22 2009, 02:13 PM
Swordsalmon QUOTE(Nathan Graves @ Feb 22 2009, 01:13 ... Feb 22 2009, 04:19 PM
SR Meganium Forme I didn't want to have a lifelong argument, so ... Feb 22 2009, 08:09 PM
Shiraoi QUOTE(SR Meganium Forme @ Feb 22 2009, 08... Feb 23 2009, 10:09 AM
Polaris I believe in a little of both. They both make sens... Feb 24 2009, 08:26 AM
salochin I personally think that God created evolution so t... Apr 11 2009, 04:06 PM
Nathan Graves Yeah I'm not sure that's the most direct p... Apr 11 2009, 04:46 PM
Saya I'm an open-minded person, however I find that... Apr 11 2009, 09:12 PM
lightbird I'm a training scientist, so, I go for evoluti... Apr 13 2009, 10:05 AM
nebz5 I don't think its on or the other I think they... Apr 13 2009, 03:06 PM
Dys Tuvai One of the first things they teach you in Biology ... Apr 13 2009, 05:49 PM
Kassi For crying out loud. I'm not even going to be... Apr 13 2009, 07:22 PM
Nathan Graves humans came from monkeys, science is false Apr 13 2009, 08:51 PM
Crunch QUOTE(Kassi @ Apr 13 2009, 08:22 PM) For ... Apr 13 2009, 10:54 PM
Sarge Even THE POPE says that evolution is true. Serious... Apr 15 2009, 12:36 AM
Hikarii -Bows to Sarge and Kassi.- Apr 15 2009, 12:58 AM
trippy Because magic/let there be light beats years of sc... Apr 20 2009, 09:13 AM
Airotia I believe in Evolution. All the way. Something th... Apr 21 2009, 07:29 PM
FuzzieWuzzie QUOTE(Airotia @ Apr 21 2009, 08:29 PM) I ... May 23 2009, 01:03 PM
sportsfan666 well cant it be both O_o? god made mammals and who... Apr 21 2009, 08:10 PM
Yzarc Drowsnam QUOTE(sportsfan666 @ Apr 21 2009, 08:10 P... Apr 21 2009, 08:42 PM
Utradera Genesis God. I do believe in the Big-Bang theory, but th... Apr 21 2009, 08:15 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Utradera Genesis @ Apr 21 2009, 06... Apr 22 2009, 01:56 AM
Zoreta QUOTE(Utradera Genesis @ Apr 21 2009, 06... Apr 25 2009, 11:35 AM
lightbird QUOTE(Utradera Genesis @ Apr 22 2009, 03... Apr 22 2009, 01:11 AM
Seadragon Dear God, I hate topics like this. I personally be... May 26 2009, 05:13 PM
Grovyle Did you know that reptiles never stop growing unti... May 26 2009, 05:25 PM
RheaDark .... hahaha seriously dude where do you get this s... May 26 2009, 07:18 PM
yupui I'm a pantheist. Ergo, I make no distinction. ... May 26 2009, 07:30 PM
Grovyle @ Rheadark So God is my god, and time is your god.... May 26 2009, 09:51 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 07:51 PM) So... May 27 2009, 08:04 PM
RheaDark Time is not my "god." I don't beli... May 27 2009, 05:02 PM
Seadragon QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 27 2009, 05:02 PM) T... May 28 2009, 05:17 PM
LucarioandDiagla I don't believe in evoulution at all. It is no... May 27 2009, 05:25 PM
yupui QUOTE(LucarioandDiagla @ May 27 2009, 06... May 27 2009, 06:37 PM
lightbird I agree with Rhea. I've always been abashed ab... May 27 2009, 05:54 PM
geqcreature The only reason that we have religion is because w... May 27 2009, 06:11 PM
Thaliel First cmae creation, this then triggeres evolution... May 27 2009, 06:38 PM
Grovyle No I am not Eric Hovind. I do not know NEAR as m... May 27 2009, 08:38 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 27 2009, 06:38 PM) No... May 27 2009, 09:03 PM
Grovyle He knows a lot. Just not everything that everyone ... May 27 2009, 09:11 PM
laskuraska Life evolved, it was not created. The idea of a ma... May 27 2009, 09:15 PM
Grovyle Evolution! (click to showhide)Written by: Bruc... May 27 2009, 09:26 PM
RheaDark ... you're blaming evolution and science for s... May 27 2009, 09:42 PM
Sarge It's really funny how you're copy pasting ... May 27 2009, 10:37 PM
Grovyle I could go on and on in disproving evolution, but ... May 28 2009, 06:25 AM
RheaDark QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 28 2009, 06:25 AM) I ... May 28 2009, 10:08 AM
Connie I believe in evolution and i don't think god e... May 28 2009, 07:36 AM
Grovyle QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 27 2009, 05:02 PM) T... May 28 2009, 05:50 PM
RheaDark First you tell me that evolution doesn't suppo... May 28 2009, 07:51 PM
Grovyle No facts? Why then does the Earth look to have bee... May 28 2009, 08:05 PM
RheaDark lolwut? Do you know anything about Earth's hi... May 28 2009, 08:07 PM
Grovyle Google 'Arizona pictures from plane'. That... May 28 2009, 08:08 PM
RheaDark A picture =/= facts. I want text that explains yo... May 28 2009, 08:11 PM
Grovyle World-wide flood. < == text May 28 2009, 08:13 PM
RheaDark ... no, I mean a source. Do you know what a sourc... May 28 2009, 08:14 PM
Grovyle I got that picture 2 weeks ago. I can't rememb... May 28 2009, 08:16 PM
RheaDark Oh mai goodness. Who cares what the url is? I... May 28 2009, 08:18 PM
Grovyle The Bible is one source. (you will say it is not f... May 28 2009, 08:21 PM
RheaDark Of course. It's a mere storybook. It is not ... May 28 2009, 08:46 PM
Grovyle I believe it is, so it is evidence for me. Please ... May 28 2009, 08:50 PM
Sarge QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 28 2009, 06:50 PM) I ... May 30 2009, 07:13 PM
RheaDark I believe it is, so it is evidence for me. You bel... May 28 2009, 08:57 PM
Seadragon QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 28 2009, 08:57 PM) I... May 31 2009, 09:44 AM
Kurai H Grovyle, the reason Arizona looks like it was once... May 31 2009, 12:14 AM
Aku Considering we're on a Pokemon forum... should... May 31 2009, 10:04 AM
RheaDark SeaDragon, I don't recall directing that post ... May 31 2009, 12:32 PM
Seadragon QUOTE(RheaDark @ May 31 2009, 12:32 PM) S... May 31 2009, 06:19 PM
Crunch QUOTE(Seadragon @ May 31 2009, 07:19 PM) ... May 31 2009, 06:34 PM
Justice The year is 2014 and I'm still trying to inven... May 31 2009, 12:50 PM
Doomeh QUOTE(Justice @ May 31 2009, 12:50 PM) Cr... May 31 2009, 10:42 PM
RheaDark "science actually backs up Creation more so t... May 31 2009, 12:55 PM
lightbird QUOTE(Justice @ May 31 2009, 06:50 PM) No... May 31 2009, 02:42 PM
RheaDark Okay then - I can admit when I get factual informa... May 31 2009, 03:11 PM
Crunch QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 28 2009, 09:13 PM) Wo... May 31 2009, 04:49 PM
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