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Evolution or God?, Something every Forum should have...
Hisashi Shoutai
post Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM
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weeeeee.. I was looking for a topic to start a thread... =D

Now, Evolution Theory or God?
wich do u believe in?

I wanna See some opinions before I post mine,so I can see the level of the discussion... =]

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post Aug 20 2008, 10:59 PM
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I think I'm interpreting it right, but I'm not totally sure. I know it doesn't demand answers, but I still have two cents in regards to it.

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What is the purpose of having ancestors, in the first place? Of course, there are very old fossils that exist today and obviously humans weren't around when said creatures were actually alive. But what if humans were created after? Is there a need for us to come from something?
There's no purpose. It's tracking our scientific origins, more or less, and also explaining how every species may end up changing through time as well.


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post Aug 21 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Raven @ Aug 20 2008, 10:59 PM) *
There's no purpose. It's tracking our scientific origins, more or less, and also explaining how every species may end up changing through time as well.


'Species end up changing through time' is a very broad statement. It can mean that a horse will have spotted offspring, or it can mean that whales changed into horses.

Change within a species is undeniable, but evolution does not provide with an answer of how a new species is born (let alone how the first living organism came into being). If it is to be based on science, then we take said changes as DNA mutations which happen to be loss of information, copying mistakes. Every time said changes occur, there is a visible change, which may or may not help the creature survive, but no new information is added into the DNA. Therefore an organism with a specific DNA will mutate and change over time but it will not gain new DNA information to produce wings, lungs, hooves and so forth (this, assuming said organism does not have these qualities already, of course). So, if we follow these mutations through time, eventually there won't be enough information to give the species a change and it will lead to extinction, not to evolution.

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Shoutai   Evolution or God?   Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM
Swordsalmon   QUOTE(the quiet quilava @ Aug 19 2008, 10...   Aug 19 2008, 08:57 PM
Missy Artichoke   No worries, TQQ. @Shoutai: In fact, the Bible its...   Aug 20 2008, 10:13 PM
Raven   Oh, Missy Artichoke... I have to refute some poin...   Aug 20 2008, 10:32 PM
Missy Artichoke   I forgot to mention that I didn't exactly mean...   Aug 20 2008, 10:53 PM
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pokepurist   I think god made everything and chose which ones w...   Aug 21 2008, 04:56 PM
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