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Pokemon types that make you go 'Wait WUT?'
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post Oct 20 2012, 04:39 PM
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I wonder why Lucario is a Steel/FIghting type sometimes... O_O
It's a wolf, not a robotic thing. I get the whole Fighting but Steel?


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Never understood why Gyarados was part flying.. Water/Dragon for it would've been better >_>


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Regarding Tynamo and family's pure Electric typing:

Bulbapedia lists some possible origins of these three Pokémon as the following:

Tynamo
Electric eels, lampreys, jawless fish, leeches, lancelets, leptocephali (larval stage of eels), knifefish, and possibly Haikouicthys (a now-exctinct genus of craniates (creatures with backbones and distinct heads)) (morphology), bioelectrogenesis (typing), and a Crookes tube or Geissler tube, both types of gas discharge tubes (irregular yellow line on Tynamo's sides) and quite possibly the optical effect known as rods, sometimes named 'skyfish' (Ability). Its Japanese name is derived from 痺れ shibire (lit. 'numbness'), しびれうなぎ shibireunagi (lit. 'electric eel'), and シラス shirasu (lit. 'whitebait').

Eelektrik
Shares many possible origins with Tynamo, with lancelets, knifefish, leptocephali, Haikouicthys, Crookes/Geissler tubes, 'skyfish' excluded. Its Japanese name origin is shared from Tynamo, with シラス shirasu replaced by ビリビリ biribiri (lit. onomatopoeia for an electric shock) and イール īru (lit. 'eel').

Eelektross
Also shares many possible origins with Tynamo/Eelektrik with jawless fish excluded and replaced by Agnatha (a superclass of jawless fish in the phylum Chordata, subphylum Vertebrata). Its Japanese name shares derivations from Tynamo/Eelektrik's names with shirasu/biribiri replaced by don (Lat: lord, AGrk: tooth).

Information on Haikouicthys courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haikouichthys
Information on Crookes tube courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_tube
Information on Geissler tube courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geissler_tube
Information on rods courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyfish (page title is a redirect to the proper article)
Information on Agnatha courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnatha
Information on the Tynamo line courtesy of http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tynamo_(Pok%C3%A9mon), http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Eel..._(Pok%C3%A9mon), and http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Eel..._(Pok%C3%A9mon)

EDIT: Golett/Golurk being part Ground-type is likely due to the fact that they're based off of golems, a man-made human from Judaic lore. Golem itself is also named after this creature. In a book titled 'Sefer Yetzira' which dates to late antiquity, a theory that the 22 Hebrew letters are the tools of creation. It also taught that those letters could be manipulated in such a way as to give those who worked with them unlimited power. If, the book suggested, God created human beings from the power of letters, then it must also be possible for humans to create a being in the same way. Once made, these creatures had a tendency to cause trouble. The only way to deal with a renegade golem was to erase the word of creation, aleph, from its forehead or remove a card hung around its neck with this word written on it. Once this was done, the golem would return to the dust. This connection to dust is probably the main derivation of Golett/Golurk's Ground typing. However, I can't find any explanations of the Ghost typing.

tl;dr: Golem/Golett/Golurk are based off of mythical Judaic artificial humans.

Information on golems courtesy of The Element Encyclopedia of Magical Creatures; the ultimate a-z of fantastic beings from myth and magic by John & Caitlín Matthews
Information on Golett/Golurk courtesy of http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Golett_(Pok%C3%A9mon) and http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Golurk_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

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post Feb 4 2013, 01:16 PM
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Erm... Many people have mentioned Tynamo/Eelektrik/Eelektross, but I still don't get it. A pure Electric type who is based on an eel - I've almost understood it. But when I first encountered a Tynamo, I was like "Why on land?"

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post Sep 28 2013, 10:31 PM
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Im surprised that Charizard wasnt part dragon...and what the heck is a "fairy" type??
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post Oct 8 2013, 05:56 AM
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The Fairy type confuses me. I don't know why they've brought this in now after having 5 generations without it. Yes, I understand the likes of Jigglypuff etc being re-typed to Fairy, but what I don't understand is why they've left it this long to do it.

The other things I don't understand:

Gyarados. HOW IS IT PART FLYING TYPE? WHAT?

This is something that has confused me for years... as it has done for other people, too.


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post Oct 8 2013, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(Captain Epic @ Oct 8 2013, 06:56 PM) *
Gyarados. HOW IS IT PART FLYING TYPE? WHAT?.


Ah, my favourite Pokemon. Gyarados is based of a Chinese myth: a carp that jumps over the Dragon Gate (lit. Dragon Door) turns into a dragon, which is an auspicious, benevolent creature in Chinese mythology.

There is a bit about it here, or read it below:

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According to Chinese mythology, the Dragon’s Gate is located at the top of a waterfall cascading from a legendary mountain. Many carp swim upstream against the river’s strong current, but few are capable or brave enough for the final leap over the waterfall. [...]

The image of a carp jumping over Dragon’s Gate is an old and enduring Chinese cultural symbol for courage, perseverance, and accomplishment. Historically, the dragon was the exclusive symbol of the emperor of China and the five-character expression, Liyu Tiao Long Men, was originally used as a metaphor for a person’s success in passing very difficult imperial examinations, required for entry into imperial administrative service. [...] More generally, the expression is used to communicate that if a person works hard and diligently, success will one day be achieved.


(Although, personally, nobody really uses "Liyu Tiao Long Men". We use "liyü yue[i] long men", which is has a slight difference: [i]tiao means to jump; yue has the connotation of going over something like a river, a wall; physical or metaphorical obstacles.)

In that sense Flying makes sense, since the Eastern (specifically Chinese) dragon usually flies around. Even the ones that live in the sea can fly around in the sky. Magically; no wings involved. The mental image of a carp jumping the Dragon Gate is immediately followed by a Mysterious Underwater evolution Transformation, and then a dragon rising from the river above to circle around in the sky. I kid you not, that is what I always think when I think of the chinese saying.

Yes, Dragon would have made even more sense, and would have kept better with the myth, but I guess it seemed too ridiculous to make it go from Water to Dragon/Flying. Also, I get the sense that Nintendo rather wanted Dragon to be more exclusive and rare a type, in those early days. But like I said, Flying isn't just plucked from nowhere.

OT, I still think Dunsparce should be Ground. That drill.

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I think Florges should be Fairy/Grass. It makes sense for Flabebe and Floette to be pure Fairy, because they're just holding the flower and it's not actually part of them. But Florges itself is actually a flower, and IIRC the Pokedex calls it the Garden Pokemon.



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I love Torterra, but he's the only Pokemon with a Grass/Ground dual typing. Grass/Ground. Quadruply weak to Ice. And the slowest Grass type starter.


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Question: How is Dodrio able to use the move Fly when A) It doesn't have any wings, and B) Both its design and name are clearly based on flightless birds?

Also why is Palkia part Water Type? Can someone explain that to me?


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QUOTE(draconitas @ Oct 8 2013, 02:46 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Epic @ Oct 8 2013, 06:56 PM) *
Gyarados. HOW IS IT PART FLYING TYPE? WHAT?.


Ah, my favourite Pokemon. Gyarados is based of a Chinese myth: a carp that jumps over the Dragon Gate (lit. Dragon Door) turns into a dragon, which is an auspicious, benevolent creature in Chinese mythology.

There is a bit about it here, or read it below:

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According to Chinese mythology, the Dragon’s Gate is located at the top of a waterfall cascading from a legendary mountain. Many carp swim upstream against the river’s strong current, but few are capable or brave enough for the final leap over the waterfall. [...]

The image of a carp jumping over Dragon’s Gate is an old and enduring Chinese cultural symbol for courage, perseverance, and accomplishment. Historically, the dragon was the exclusive symbol of the emperor of China and the five-character expression, Liyu Tiao Long Men, was originally used as a metaphor for a person’s success in passing very difficult imperial examinations, required for entry into imperial administrative service. [...] More generally, the expression is used to communicate that if a person works hard and diligently, success will one day be achieved.


(Although, personally, nobody really uses "Liyu Tiao Long Men". We use "liyü yue[i] long men", which is has a slight difference: [i]tiao means to jump; yue has the connotation of going over something like a river, a wall; physical or metaphorical obstacles.)

In that sense Flying makes sense, since the Eastern (specifically Chinese) dragon usually flies around. Even the ones that live in the sea can fly around in the sky. Magically; no wings involved. The mental image of a carp jumping the Dragon Gate is immediately followed by a Mysterious Underwater evolution Transformation, and then a dragon rising from the river above to circle around in the sky. I kid you not, that is what I always think when I think of the chinese saying.

Yes, Dragon would have made even more sense, and would have kept better with the myth, but I guess it seemed too ridiculous to make it go from Water to Dragon/Flying. Also, I get the sense that Nintendo rather wanted Dragon to be more exclusive and rare a type, in those early days. But like I said, Flying isn't just plucked from nowhere.

OT, I still think Dunsparce should be Ground. That drill.


I still think they got Gyarados and Dragonite mixed round to be honest. For Dragonair, clearly based on the eastern serpents you mentioned to turn into a more western style dragon, with the wings and bipedal body makes no sense to me even now, Gyrados keeps the same body shape, so he's a more logical evolution to me, plus, Dragonite shares Magikarp's colour scheme a lot closer


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QUOTE(Dorito Ninja @ Feb 23 2014, 10:59 PM) *
I still think they got Gyarados and Dragonite mixed round to be honest. For Dragonair, clearly based on the eastern serpents you mentioned to turn into a more western style dragon, with the wings and bipedal body makes no sense to me even now, Gyrados keeps the same body shape, so he's a more logical evolution to me, plus, Dragonite shares Magikarp's colour scheme a lot closer

Yes, but why would a bipedal dragon evolve from a FISH?


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sudowoodo's typing confused me for so long. i actually lost a battle because of it. xD. also i dont really get palkia's typing either, i mean i understand the metaphorical choice behind it, but it's not as simple as a lot of other pokemon's typing. pretty cool though
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Eelektross. I was disappointed it wasn't Electric/Poison. Also Luxray--I had really been hoping for Electric/Dark. :c


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In regards to Torterra, I believe its Ground type is a reference to World Turtles referenced in various mythologies around the world. They are turtles believed to carry the Earth on their backs. They are seen in the mythologies of Hinduism, China, and the native peoples of the Americas.

Information on World Turtles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle

This viewpoint is also supported by the species name Torterra being the Continent Pokémon.

It could also be based off of the Black Tortoise of Chinese astrological/cosmological lore, which represents the direction of North and the season of Winter. It is variously referred to as Xuánwŭ (玄武) (Chinese), Hyeonmu (현무 Hangul) 玄武 (Hanja) (Korean), Genbu (玄武 Kanji) (げんぶ Hiragana) (Japanese), or Huyền Vũ (Vietnamese) (I couldn't find the transcription for this on Wikipedia, unfortunately. unsure.gif )

Information on the Black Tortoise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tortoise

Other information from Bulbapedia: On the Origin of Species: Turtwig, Grotle, and Torterra and Torterra (Pokémon)


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