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Evolution or God?, Something every Forum should have...
Hisashi Shoutai
post Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM
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weeeeee.. I was looking for a topic to start a thread... =D

Now, Evolution Theory or God?
wich do u believe in?

I wanna See some opinions before I post mine,so I can see the level of the discussion... =]

LETS START DEBATING!!!


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post Aug 19 2008, 01:19 PM
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If the Bible is just a book, it has the same credibility as any other book. What gives more credibility to a science book than the Bible? If they were both, technically, written by men, they should have the same base credibility stat, so to speak.

Furthermore, the Bible itself hasn't been changed, per se. Different versions/translations have spawned, some of which are not accurate or have been edited. A perfect example is the Catholic Bible, in which the word Trinity is added to a verse (because it is nowhere found in the original). If you actually took the time to read it, you'd find that many churches are in the wrong. A good example is the concept of heaven and hell, which the Bible disproves and it actually enforces the doctrine of a resurrection when Jesus Christ returns.

As for Eve coming from Adam's rib, it's a matter of personal beliefs. Remember, though, 100 years ago nobody could even imagine the destructive power of an atomic bomb, yet here it is today threatening all life on the planet. I suppose it takes a little faith, if you want to call it something.

To go back to topic, DNA is a perfect example of design behind nature. Evolution claims that genetic mutations (or changes in DNA structure) are random. They happen at some point, apparently triggered by the environment to increase a certain species' rate of survival. Then, if Evolution were true, why are monkeys still here? Wouldn't we be the pinnacle of their evolutionary chain? If we are the evolved versions of them, we are the survivors.

I do not mean to offend anyone, by the way.
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post Aug 19 2008, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Missy Artichoke @ Aug 19 2008, 07:19 PM) *
If the Bible is just a book, it has the same credibility as any other book. What gives more credibility to a science book than the Bible? If they were both, technically, written by men, they should have the same base credibility stat, so to speak.

The Bible is older and more known about silly.

The bible was probibly a lot more powerful and influencial in those times. If it was released today, I think people would find it rediculous, sexist, racist and stupid. Just like if they came out with Cigarettes today, people would just think they are stupid and they would never be sold because of the health risks.

However, when something becomes so popular, it isn't easy to get rid of. Especialy when so many Christians use it as a source of faith. I don't have the best opinion on this but I know what I know.

QUOTE(Missy Artichoke @ Aug 19 2008, 07:19 PM) *
Then, if Evolution were true, why are monkeys still here? Wouldn't we be the pinnacle of their evolutionary chain? If we are the evolved versions of them, we are the survivors.

This is just stupid. Read up on how evolution works. I thought you where for evolution and against the Bible.
Whos side are you on?

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Shoutai   Evolution or God?   Jun 15 2008, 10:03 PM
Akane   Evolution, it's scientific and what most peopl...   Jun 15 2008, 10:06 PM
Shoutai   not questioning whether God exists or not, just th...   Jun 15 2008, 10:14 PM
Akane   QUOTE(Shoutai @ Jun 15 2008, 11:14 PM) no...   Jun 15 2008, 10:18 PM
Shoutai   what u say does make sense... U seem to know quite...   Jun 15 2008, 10:30 PM
Akane   QUOTE(Shoutai @ Jun 15 2008, 11:30 PM) wh...   Jun 15 2008, 10:34 PM
Shoutai   I duno... I think we all have a purpose.. Of cours...   Jun 16 2008, 08:55 AM
Akane   QUOTE(Shoutai @ Jun 16 2008, 09:55 AM) I ...   Jun 16 2008, 09:39 AM
Fallen Archangel   I believe in both. I was raised Catholic, went to...   Jun 16 2008, 09:52 AM
Akane   QUOTE(Fallen Archangel @ Jun 16 2008, 10...   Jun 16 2008, 09:56 AM
Shoutai   no... akane... interior evolution I mean Mind... ...   Jun 16 2008, 09:58 AM
Akane   QUOTE(Shoutai @ Jun 16 2008, 10:58 AM) no...   Jun 16 2008, 09:59 AM
Shoutai   hmm... Spiritual evolution... Becoming a better p...   Jun 16 2008, 11:16 AM
Akane   QUOTE(Shoutai @ Jun 16 2008, 12:16 PM) hm...   Jun 16 2008, 11:22 AM
shadow the hedgehog   i believe in both. i dont know if my ideas corres...   Jun 16 2008, 11:56 AM
Captain Douglas Jay Falcon   I'm quite moderately agnostic, I'd say, so...   Jun 16 2008, 01:09 PM
empoleon dynamite   QUOTE(Captain Douglas Jay Falcon @ Jun 16 200...   Jun 16 2008, 01:22 PM
Akane   QUOTE(empoleon dynamite @ Jun 16 2008, 02...   Jun 16 2008, 01:38 PM
Captain Douglas Jay Falcon   QUOTE(empoleon dynamite @ Jun 16 2008, 02...   Jun 16 2008, 02:12 PM
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Shoutai   of course evolution exists... I believe in it but ...   Jun 17 2008, 09:17 AM
Akane   QUOTE(Shoutai @ Jun 17 2008, 10:17 AM) of...   Jun 20 2008, 01:14 PM
Etnie   I'm agnostic and my entire family is Baptist/p...   Jun 18 2008, 09:28 PM
Jeffrey   The real question here is this: why, throughout ma...   Aug 16 2008, 08:53 AM
Shady   This is a topic that I find very fascinating. Pers...   Aug 18 2008, 09:08 PM
Camerin   evolution and God God directed our evolution spec...   Aug 18 2008, 09:13 PM
Missy Artichoke   To me, God is actually more believable than evolut...   Aug 18 2008, 11:06 PM
Pumpkin King   QUOTE(Missy Artichoke @ Aug 19 2008, 12:0...   Aug 19 2008, 01:57 PM
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