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Born Gay/Straight/Bi, Are you born or turned that way?
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post Mar 11 2014, 09:27 PM
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sexuality is very fluid. it can change at any point in life. but it is DEFINITELY not a "choice", it's something out of your control that you can't help but feel. there's no such thing as "choosing" to be gay or straight. it just happens, whether it happens when you are born, or when you're 30, its different for every individual. people do change, people that are attracted to males may grow to be attracted to females, or people that are attracted to everyone may end up being attracted to no one (asexuality). i think this because of my personal experience.
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post Jun 6 2014, 06:06 PM
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It's never a choice when one falls in love, regardless of gender. Your body creates a hormone that makes you feel in love based on the other person's physical features and their ferimones. If one is a guy and one feels attracted to another guy, that's because one's brain says that the other guy is worth loving. Now, why one's brain says that can be for a number of reasons, but it's NEVER a choice. One can't just tell their brain that one likes this person, their brain makes the choice for them, sometimes against their will. I have no respect for those who believe being <insert type of sexuality here> is a choice.


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post Jun 10 2014, 02:59 AM
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Well, I think that everybody's brain is completely different. While some people may easily know what sexuality they are, others may not. For those people that don't know what sexuality they are, it's probably a little less natural. And some people are not as good at tuning in to themselves as others. Those who are not as good at being in touch with their natural/true feelings may identify with a sexuality that isn't naturally how they are, and possibly never know. Also, there's the different levels of attraction and mistaking one level for another, and the whole "w0w i cld nv3r b gai w0w itz a sin aganste bibel w0w" complex that some Christians (well, there are probably some people of other faiths as well...) seem to have, so they suppress any natural feelings to the point where any thoughts are simply "temptations," or maybe they just pretend they aren't having those thoughts. Don't know.

So I guess what I'm saying is that while sexuality itself isn't really a choice, people can try to force themselves into another mold (I feel bad for those people), and for other people, their sexuality isn't as crystal clear. I actually kind of envy people who without a shadow of a doubt are one-hundred-and-ten-percent sure of their gender identity and sexuality, and have been for quite some time.


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post Jun 11 2014, 11:19 PM
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Detesting and casting away homosexuals is the opposite of what Jesus would do, besides. His own group of Twelve included a terrorist, a national traitor, a sometimes uncouth sailor, and someone who doubted him ten ways from Sunday. The importance of homosexuality in the Bible is almost nothing - but it is blown up by American churches and used as a tool. Ironic - Jesus was the most scathing against the religious elites, those adding on more "thou shalts" and "thou shalt nots" than the original ten commandments.

Jesus himself never touched the subject, and what the Bible does mention about it was a few short passages addressed to the Jews.


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No matter your sexual orientation, you can't wake up one day and say "I'm going to be straight today, asexual tomorrow, gay the next day". There's no conscious choice involved. You can choose to ACT or not on feelings/impulses/whatever, but you can't control those feelings cause of brain chemistry. You can't control who your brain deems attractive.


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post Apr 21 2017, 12:01 PM
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i think this is a very tricky issue that people love to stick into a box. are you born gay or is it a choice? the answer is both yes and no to both, imo.

every person is an individual, and human sexuality is a fairly unknown issue. there simply hasn't been a lot of studies into it due to stigmas revolving around sex and sexuality. most things we know are theories or speculation, if not propaganda from both pro-lgbt and anti-lgbt.

the way i see it, sexual orientation is in fact a balance of nature and nurture. people can be born predisposed to being gay, and there can be the environmental trigger.

there are more folks identifying as being lgbt+ today than in the past. why? because of the environment. it is safer than it was before to openly be gay, which means more folks are more likely to accept being gay rather than hide it. this shows an environmental aspect. on the flipside, there has to be the predisposition to even feeling attraction to the same gender to become gay. this shows the biological/"born this way" aspect.

i also personally believe that a lot of human beings are actually born with a fluid sense of sexual orientation, and because of conditioning or even just later preference develop to become attracted to one gender.

and technically, yes, people can choose to be gay or straight for whatever reason (in the sense of consciously deciding), but i believe this is a fickle matter. someone can try to be something, and it might work and it might not. human sexuality and love is a very complex thing, and people often have romantic and sexual encounters outside of their typical orientation.
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QUOTE(DeadSpaceFan @ Mar 6 2011, 08:08 AM) *
I believe you are turned towards a certain sexuality based on the variables of life (surroundings, people, environments, television, etc.) and these evidently aid the choices you make and create whom you are as a person - as well as change your reaction to certain things, just like all other things in life. Say for example with food, if you get swayed into loving bitter food but dislike sweet foods, the same could be same with being either homosexual or heterosexual - from seeing two men share a passionate romance on television could give you ideas on what life is meant to be like for you, especially if you see it at such a young age.
I would also like to comment on what you said before about homosexuals being "put down", ALL forms of sexuality get insulted in one way or another, please do not think you are any worse of a human because you chose something different from others.


I actually disagree with this, because until I was about 11, I had never been introduced to anything close to LGBT+. Once I started watching more shows like anime, I started to ship gay ships, but there were no actual LGBT+ characters or relationships. Everything was cishet or unconfirmed. However, I am genderfluid and hetero/homoflexible.
And about what you said at the end- They were simply stating that homophobia is a much bigger issue than cisphobia/heterophobia. If they had said anything about cis/hetero/transphobia, it would not have fit into the topic at hand. That deserves a different thread.
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