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Is mankind a bad species?, Discuss your answers here
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post Nov 16 2011, 01:54 AM
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Before Earth there was nothing.
Parasites lived in water, eventually growing and learning to adapt to the land.
These new creatures evolved through everything they touched; becoming suitable for life on the planet they loved on.
This lasted for years until a disaster struck.

Us.

Humans are hunters and warlords. We fight and feast on the land, wanting to ascend to the top and become the ultimate being. We don't know how exactly we were born, but we caused pain and suffering. We waged wars, paved the land, and built our empire. We live on money made from trees and sit on thrones made of smoke, all the while watching ourselves die in a never-ending race for supremacy.
We are a plague.
We are Evil.

And yet, we have compassion. We treat the land with respect, feeding it seeds to grow again while we feast more on what it provides for us. We take and give, and the land does the same for us. We rely on it and it does the same.
We kill and revive. We start families to replace those who died before us. We love when there is someone unloved. We fight for another when they are down. We explore the land and learn more about it every day. We create films for those aspiring to unlock the secrets of the planet we raided and learned to respect.

So my answer is both yes and no.
We are good and we are evil.



I was reading your comment with music from 10,000 BC playing in the background and my brain nearly imploded...

Anyway, I'm sure I said this before, but the human race is just trying to look out for it's survival. Problem is that there's too much of us. For every environmentalist there's another sadist who either doesn't give a rats ass about the human race, or it's survival. Man's not evil, just...overpopulated. There's enough people where SOME are going to be detrimental, and we have no natural process to weed them out aside from "throw them in jail." Besides, I dislike passing judgment on a group, especially one as massive as "the entire human race".


But if all of us, or at least most of us, were watching out for our environment and doing the best we can to keep our planet in shape, would our earth be the way it is today?
I'm not going against you, just making a point.


That's hard to say because it would entitle knowing exactly what the planet needs to thrive. What's more is it would entitle foresight into what certain plans would entitle to the development of the planet. For example, a community entirely composed of how it was in the United States when the Native Americans had control of it definitely displayed that such a community could sustain an environment, but who's to say that the planet can't sustain a technology based community? Global Warming does suggest that fossil fuels are not beneficial to sustain an environment, but there are just as effective models of collecting energy without the harmful effects (wind farms, nuclear power, solar power etc) which suggest that energy production is not a bad thing for the planet.

Point is I don't know. There are good and bad things about industrialization in respect to the environment, but the same is also true about an completely naturalistic environment. The key is finding what works both for us and the environment, and keeping out that which effects the environment.


Very well said.
Yes, there are environment-friendly ways to live and produce energy, correct.
But there are ways that aren't as friendly. And everyone knows that.
And yet we still do them.


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post Nov 23 2011, 12:51 AM
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Depends on your view, if u see us as the people who took away animals home, and pollute the atmosphere (with smokescreen) then bad. But if u view us as the ones who have evolved the planet to its current state.


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post Nov 27 2011, 05:55 AM
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We're not good, but we're not terrible. We can do some great things and appalling things. It depends on how you look at it.
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post Dec 23 2011, 08:19 PM
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I believe that humanity is very bad. We've been ruining ecosystems since our beginnings (we killed off the woolly mammoths, dodos, giant moas, and elephant birds, among others). Nowadays, we force hundreds of species to extinction each decade, some of which we don't even know about. I honestly don't even like being a human. We are absolutely torturous to our home planet. Hundreds of years ago, humans could probably see ten times more stars than we can today.
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It depends on our behavior. So I'm neutral on this. -shrug-


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post May 6 2012, 01:52 AM
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I think we have been pretty bad to our planet. We could be so much better. That's the sole reason why i hate almost every human on earth. pathetic really, that an entire species can stoop so low. if humans weren't so wasteful, we could be waaaaayy better off. the only reason why i don't wish we never existed is that not all people are like that. I think of everyone who is better to be above human. if we could, just for a minuet, forget all of this mechanical nonsense and see the bigger picture, i garentee that we would be better as a whole.


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post May 6 2012, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(zerohundred @ May 6 2012, 01:52 AM) *
I think we have been pretty bad to our planet. We could be so much better. That's the sole reason why i hate almost every human on earth. pathetic really, that an entire species can stoop so low. if humans weren't so wasteful, we could be waaaaayy better off. the only reason why i don't wish we never existed is that not all people are like that. I think of everyone who is better to be above human. if we could, just for a minuet, forget all of this mechanical nonsense and see the bigger picture, i garentee that we would be better as a whole.


I'll just point out here that you're using a very mechanical computer to type all of this into the very technologically derived internet. Are you suggesting that the entirety of the human race goes back to a completely nomadic society? If so, there needs to be a gross population decrease since such societies can't sustain more than a couple dozen people. Then again, I'm not entirely confident I understand what it is you're proposing the human race does with itself.

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post May 7 2012, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Wilycat52 @ Oct 27 2010, 03:58 AM) *
Well, I'm glad that there's still good people in this world... but there are too many people who are foolish, ignorant idiots who have nothing better to do than ruin everyone's lives!!! There's too fracking many! Scum of the Earth! (what i like to say that?) Congrats to all the humans out there who actually have intelligence....

i completely agree with every word. thank you for saying that

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I'll just point out here that you're using a very mechanical computer to type all of this into the very technologically derived internet. Are you suggesting that the entirety of the human race goes back to a completely nomadic society? If so, there needs to be a gross population decrease since such societies can't sustain more than a couple dozen people. Then again, I'm not entirely confident I understand what it is you're proposing the human race does with itself.

I'm not completely against technology, but people are obsessed with it. i have no idea what we should do with ourselves.
EDIT: wait! i know! we can stop being idiots! that won't solve every problem, but we'll be better off i garuentee!


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QUOTE(zerohundred @ May 7 2012, 07:42 PM) *
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I'll just point out here that you're using a very mechanical computer to type all of this into the very technologically derived internet. Are you suggesting that the entirety of the human race goes back to a completely nomadic society? If so, there needs to be a gross population decrease since such societies can't sustain more than a couple dozen people. Then again, I'm not entirely confident I understand what it is you're proposing the human race does with itself.

I'm not completely against technology, but people are obsessed with it. i have no idea what we should do with ourselves.
EDIT: wait! i know! we can stop being idiots! that won't solve every problem, but we'll be better off i garuentee!


The problem with that is everyone thinks THEY'RE the shining example of intelligence when I guarantee there's someone out there who thinks they're an idiot as well.


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No worse than any other species on Earth. Every species has specific adaptations to survive and procreate. We have our intelligence. Any other species would have taken full advantage of such intelligence to better their chances of survival. Why should we apologize for our success?


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post May 9 2012, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(Toogee @ May 8 2012, 09:58 PM) *
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No worse than any other species on Earth. Every species has specific adaptations to survive and procreate. We have our intelligence. Any other species would have taken full advantage of such intelligence to better their chances of survival. Why should we apologize for our success?


It's adaptations to. Dolphins have bigger grey matter, and display some level of intelligence similar to our own, but they can't make it out of the ocean. Then again it may be paradise in the ocean and we're the idiots for keeping on land.


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QUOTE(deinonychosauria @ Dec 23 2011, 06:19 PM) *
I believe that humanity is very bad. We've been ruining ecosystems since our beginnings (we killed off the woolly mammoths, dodos, giant moas, and elephant birds, among others). Nowadays, we force hundreds of species to extinction each decade, some of which we don't even know about. I honestly don't even like being a human. We are absolutely torturous to our home planet. Hundreds of years ago, humans could probably see ten times more stars than we can today.

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The problem with that is everyone thinks THEY'RE the shining example of intelligence when I guarantee there's someone out there who thinks they're an idiot as well.
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this is ture. if only selfishness wasn't a survival skill. I wish humans could reason that half the things they're doing is bad for the environment. CO2 carbon dioxide isn't the only problem. according to a study, CO2 levels were responding to high temperatures rathar than cousing them. I'm pretty sure CO1 carbon monoxide is a big problem as well, but emmissions aren't the only thing causing environmental distress. Deforestation is a big prob. although reforestation works, it's impossible to reforest rainforests because the heavy rain in the area washes away the nutrients in the soil. There's also other polution. we have a lot of problems to correct. -_-2.gif i wish i could wave a magic wand and fix all of this magic.gif


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