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OUR BELIEF PLATFORM/ISSUES WE NEED TO FIX

The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

As James Madison, known as the “Chief Architect of the Constitution” stated; ” We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves to control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”

The recognition that America was founded as a White nation.

America was born as an extension of White European heritage. Those who formed the very ideals that we cherish such as freedom of speech, trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty, free enterprise, etc. were of White European heritage. All of the early laws of the United States from its very inception restricted citizenship to White people and all of the early charters, laws, compacts, etc were signed into effect by White people.

Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

These “laws” given to us by the Democrats and Republicans is damaging to the American worker and will eventually put millions upon millions into desperate poverty.

Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

The first and only concern of our government should be for the citizens of the United States.

Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

Hundreds of billions of dollars are sent overseas every year while our people remain in need, our schools need funding, our infrastructure needs rebuilding and our citizens fight to keep their bills paid. This money should be used to support the decaying Social Security and Medicare programs, to help send kids to college, and to rebuild our infrastructure. Keep American Taxes in America!

Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

We should promote a fair system that allows for a clean environment in our own country and does not interfere with the free enterprise system. We also promote an aggressive search for and use of non-polluting and clean energy sources such as solar energy.

Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

The federal government has enacted programs and laws designed for the exclusive discrimination against those of White European ancestry. Promotions, hiring and scholarships should be based on ability and not upon a person’s race

Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

America is being over run by illegal immigrants mostly from nonwhite countries who do not share the Christian European values of our nation’s founders. Immigration should remain open to all White Christians throughout the world . There is not one single country that does not persecute it’s White Christian citizens such as in South Africa where the violent crime against Whites is at an all time high. The entire reasoning behind the forming of America was to allow one place in the world where White Christians could live together in harmony without any outside interference from those of other religions or races.

Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

The cure for crime in America is not take guns off the streets but to put more guns ON the streets. Violent criminals should be punished, but law abiding citizens should be allowed to defend their homes, business and families with out fear of the federal government treating them as the criminal.

Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European (White) culture

We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.

Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.

Drug testing for welfare recipients

We recognize that not everyone receiving assistance is on drugs, but those who are should not be receiving your tax money. Welfare should be for those who need it – not those who abuse it.

Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

This illegally passed law gives control of our money to a private corporation. We must return to debt free money – interest free currency issued by Congress as prescribed in the U.S. Constitution.

Balance the budget

Just as any family must balance their budget so must the federal government. Accordingly all present federal debt owed to the criminal private Federal Reserve corporation should be canceled.

Rehabilitate our public school system.

We must remove the humanist influence in our schools and teach fact based curriculum to further the students knowledge not someone’s opinion. Parents should have the option of private or home schooling if they prefer and students should be free to practice their Christian faith in the classroom.

A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

This should be the one and only tax allowed. It is the only fair way to collect revenue and does not discriminate against any economic class.

Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother’s life or in case of rape or incest.

While we stress the need for a moral and Christian lifestyle, we applaud those women who choose to give life when faced with an unplanned pregnancy. Furthermore, we recognize a woman’s right to self-defense. While occurances are rare, a woman should not be forced to carry a rapist’s seed to fruition.

We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

The only way to put an end to this cycle of abuse is to stop the sexual abuser once and for all.

We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

This is a Christian nation and the Bible condemns homosexual activity and the perversion of our society which it encourages.

We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

While the AIDS virus is almost inclusive to homosexuals and those not of European ancestry, many innocent people have contacted the virus. Despite the moral character of a person, the virus is still highly contagious with new and deadlier forms coming out constantly. Everyone who gets it dies! Aids carriers should receive proper medical care while a cure is being researched. This is the only way to stop the spread of the disease. They should be kept from coming into contact with uninfected people.

Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

People should be allowed to hire who they want, live where they want and practice the Christian faith as they please. Likewise people should be able to sell to whom they want , rent to whom they want and socialize and conduct business with who they want. The government should not interfere with the everyday lives of white Christian Americans.

We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

The brightest and best minds of all races will be able to run their own affairs without outside interference. To support their efforts we should provide the financial and technological resources needed for a limited period of time in the building or rebuilding of their independent nations. After that their success or failure is totally up to them.

Everyone who can work should work

A workfare program should be established to assist those who need help for a limited time. Furthermore we recognize that with an end to the insane economic policies which are currently engaged in this country, many families would not be forced into the welfare system in the first place.

We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

We want to see the National Education Association and the Child protective agencies put out of business. Child abusers should receive corporal punishment – if they abuse their children then they should fear the law. However, today too many freedoms are being taken away from parents in the so called name of ” child protection”. Child destruction is their real goal!

We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

We support state sovereignty resolutions

Each state should be able to officially declare that any power of law not directly given to the federal government by the constitution can be nullified by the state congress. We furthermore recognize that the 10th Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states to be an agent of the states instead of the states being an agent of the federal government.

We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

We believe that the defense dept. should consist of volunteers of both men and women with women being excluded from combat positions. Furthermore we believe that the defense departments sole mission should be to defend our borders and not those of any other country or nation including the interference into their private affairs.

We (The Knights) support all U.S. veterans

We should find those that are missing and take care of those who have come home.

America is FALLING. As a nationalist, I care for the future of my country and OUR people. OUR ways are destroying OUR country. Yes, this country still belongs to " We the people " It aggravates me that people have let it come this far and still aren't standing up for themselves.

Where do I begin? I can remember as a child saying that to myself after I was told by my Mother one Saturday morning to “clean up” my bedroom. It was a warm sunny day and I wanted to go out and play with my friends, but that was not to be the case this day. This particular Saturday it would seem that I had my work cut out for me. As I looked around my room at the mess that was made of it, I thought to myself “how on earth did I ever let it get this bad”! Where do I begin? What am I going to do with all this stuff? And so began the ever so disappointing, long and tough task of cleaning up the mess that was made.

As I sat there I have to admit that I was not overly enthusiastic about the monumental task ahead of me. When you’re 11 years old you would be surprised at all the great ideas you can come up with to speed things along! “If I could only get this done quickly, I could get out of here!” Funny how the brain works harder than the hands. Then the answer comes, if I just put this stuff where it can’t be seen, that’s the answer! So in the closet, and under the bed…!And what do you know, finished! All in about 20 minutes.

As I hurried down the stairs, I yelled out to my Mother that I was done and that I would be outside in the yard. I don’t think I have to tell you that my stay outside only lasted about 5 minutes. That’s right. Mom went up and inspected my work and my “bright idea” of hiding the mess instead of cleaning it up had been discovered. My Mother quickly put me back to work, and I dared not try to take any chances with any more of my “bright ideas”!

I mention this childhood story because I think most of us can relate to it, and even though we are older now, we now find ourselves sitting in our homes looking at the mess that our nation is in – a mess created by our elected officials and national leaders because our people kept sweeping little bits and pieces under the bed and taking the easy way out all the while expecting our problems to be fixed by someone else. Now the problems piled high like a mountain of garbage. Secretly, we hope our mother or someone else will clean up the mess.

It’s not a “mess” of toy’s cluttering the floor, it’s a mess of “illegal immigration.” Its not unfolded clothes, it’s “pornography”. Instead of dirty laundry or dishes, it’s a high divorce rate, corporate greed, abortion, financial exploitation, and eradication of Christian ideals, growing homosexuality, and racial genocide.

Who is going to clean up the mess our nation faces, our elected officials? Doubtful, they are masters at “hiding things in “the closet” or “under the bed.” I’m afraid that task has been left up to you and I. So, Where do we begin? Well, there are some things that we can do.

A good place to start is prayer! We live in a nation that has seemingly turned it’s back on God and his holy word. These “modern” day churches seem to only be preaching a message that will “tickle the ears” of their congregations and fill their collection baskets! So we must pray for our nation. Prayer should be first and foremost!

Our people are suffering from a feeling of hopelessness, so if we haven’t already, we need to become as active as possible in reaching out to our people.

As my mother held me accountable for the mess I had made of my room, we also need to hold accountable those elected officials who have allowed our nation to fall into the mess it’s now in. We as citizens cannot, nor should we be expected to be satisfied with the “hide the mess under the bed” plan. If my mother had not held me accountable for the mess I had made, then ultimately the messy condition of the room becomes her fault, because she did not speak up or attempt to remedy the situation.

We need to tell our representatives to clean it up! Write letters to your local, state, and federal representatives and let your voice be heard, let them know that they will be held accountable for the mess that they have allowed this nation of ours to become, not by our strength, but by the strength of God who raises and tears down leaders at His will.

Yes, we do face the monumental task of cleaning up our nation and reaching our people. We must take the responsibility upon ourselves. Nobody is going to do it for us. It’s not an easy task and will not be achieved overnight, but if we all work together with guidance of The Almighty, the job of cleaning up OUR nation can and will be done.

[Lord Raven]

There is absolutely no way you are posting this in a debate forum and expecting it to stay as a closed Poll, especially considering the controversial crap you are spewing.

By the way,



Christian America is stupid bullshit. You know how fucking nuts a theocracy is, based upon a singular religion? Go to the middle east. They rule through religion (Islam, by the way, but they misinterpret its true meaning and all context behind Islam so they don't practice anywhere near true Islam) to such an extent that certain groups of people (women included) have almost no rights. My sister is in Qatar- one of the better countries to live in over there- and she was fucking paranoid of getting lost there because one wrong direction leads to Saudi. And then, bam, I probably wouldn't see my sister again for a long time.

You want religion in our country? Fine, but wait for it to turn into what is more or less equivalent to a middle eastern country, where we keep misinterpreting the finer points of the religion and instead use it and interpret it to serve the will of the ruler(s) and the ruler(s) only. None of this "peace, love, and prayer" bullshit will occur in Christian America. Thankfully, this isn't Christian America.

In fact, there is a good fraction of Western Europe that does not associate with religion, and their standard of living trumps ours greatly. I've ranted about this too many times in the past, but you are fucking wrong and as soon as I get the energy and I will make sure I eviscerate every single letter of this rant without ad hominem or all caps, because this shit does not stand with me.

You wanna dance? Let's dance, because I haven't been in one of these in so fucking long that it's almost refreshing. I'm excited, in fact! As soon as classes are over. Because your mentality, sir, is what fucks over actually hard working and honest people, that do not need any degree of God or religion to do good for their fellow man.

Before anyone comes in and gets offended, no I am not spitting on religion, I am merely spitting on a rule through religion simply because of the *many* misinterpretations that come out of religion, simply for the gain of power. Religion is a beautiful thing by itself, but to rule through is another issue entirely.



So there's my take on your religion stuff. Next: Mercenary Raven talks about race and the fact that this kid is quite clearly too sheltered to know what he's talking about with regards to race!




America was born far before this "White European" heritage crap. In fact, all heritage traces back to Africa; in other words, why does the color of one's skin matter if we're all human beings? We are all trying to get along in this life of ours, and frankly a sense of community is exactly what we need to bring this together. But sadly, I'm as awake as anything else, cramming for a fucking exam that I have in 6 hours (and counting!), so this dream world of mine cannot exist, especially not tonight.

Instead, let's try to make things as good as possible, eh? Maybe I could pull off the 94% I need on this exam to take the next exam more relaxed. Maybe I could pull off an 80 and just get a perfect on the next exam (my study habits are getting better! One more month till finals! smh). Oh wait, we should be talking about race, shouldn't we? F that noise.

The pressing question is, why did the race of the people matter when the law was being signed? Trick question, it didn't. White European is a very broad race, and it encompasses a lot of very different cultures in and of themselves. That tells us virtually nothing about why this "white" race is so key to our success as a country, when it's already so divided. Besides, everyone has tainted European blood in the end; nobody's in actuality American, aside from those red dudes that an asshole named Andrew Jackson decided to move over to the shittiest part of the US because we took their land and wanted more of it. Even more proof America doesn't actually belong to one "master" white race, more or less.

The people America belonged to are almost completely gone, in fact, because of the cruelty of this white man. This white man wanted only dominance, and you think that the way forward is to trust him? He must want to throw you in front of a bus if it means adding a 0 to the end of his salary, or a 1 at the beginning. You know, something fucking ridiculous. You're actually willing to trust in these people?

Once again, trick question; I am, but if the person proves themselves to be a decent person, and not a greed-driven powerhungry fucking asshole. These laws were created by the tainted hands of the killers of the "true" Americans. To add insult to injury, many of these people were secular! It dents your point as much as it does mine, mind you.

There's a reason these laws didn't stay, by the way. Because it was absolutely inhumane, and people started to realize that black people were people too. After all, it's in the name. Citizenship rights were given to blacks upon realizing that it was the wrong thing to strip them of such. How the fuck would you feel if you were a slave living in the 19th century? Actually, fuck that, it's a rhetorical question; you would feel absolutely horrible, and that's once again what this "white man" did so he could run a plantation and- surprise- gain money! He did provide housing for day-in, day-out labor, which is hardly a fair trade; I'm sure *I'd* rather be homeless than kill myself everyday.

Notice how our country also got into two world wars and a bunch of other dumbshit wars under the influence of the white man. War of 1812? Womp. Civil War? Double womp. World War 1? Those damned Europeans. World War 2? More Europeans, and some Japanese people bombing a harbor hardly offsets a White European that went out of his way and killed almost 10+ million other innocent White Europeans. Vietnam and Korean War? Shouldn't have stuck our noses in there. Iraq War? What did that accomplish again? Right, nothing except we're more or less fucked right now as a result.

Sure, Asians had war crimes too, but fuck the white man causes more of the tragedies you've heard about in our world's history from the past two centuries alone than the black man or anyone else. You want to continue to trust in the white man and see his word as infallible? Just look at the fucking proof of what crimes the white man has committed.

And, like last time, I am taking the piss out of his point, I am not saying anything against the white man. I have merely illustrated the wrongs that the "white man" has done in the past two centuries, more or less illustrating the point that it doesn't matter their race, as long as they are a competent leader that isn't trigger happy about sending the army wherever the fuck they want. Or exterminating around 6 million Jews and 5 million other innocents.




Next time: I cover foreign policy, but I don't know jack shit so I'll just make the OP seem morally in the wrong. Toodles, it's 5am and I still have like 20 pages left to read! Christ, how do you history buffs do this shit?

[SomeRandomPerson]

Next time: I cover foreign policy, but I don't know jack shit so I'll just make the OP seem morally in the wrong. Toodles, it's 5am and I still have like 20 pages left to read! Christ, how do you history buffs do this shit?

Good going, Raven! I look forward to seeing the next part!

Until then, I'll just sit back here quietly, giggling at the thought of the third breathing hole you'll be ripping this guy.

[Yamper]

We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

This is a Christian nation and the Bible condemns homosexual activity and the perversion of our society which it encourages.

We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

While the AIDS virus is almost inclusive to homosexuals and those not of European ancestry, many innocent people have contacted the virus. Despite the moral character of a person, the virus is still highly contagious with new and deadlier forms coming out constantly. Everyone who gets it dies! Aids carriers should receive proper medical care while a cure is being researched. This is the only way to stop the spread of the disease. They should be kept from coming into contact with uninfected people.

>perversion of society.

I don't think it's even worth commenting on with this whole homosexual thing. Yeah the bible says it. People ain't gonna change. Oh and guess what? Straight people are just as likely to get HIV/AIDS as homosexual people.

Just because homosexual people "contracted it first" doesn't make it a homosexual exclusive disease. You know, if they kept people with AIDS in hospitals, then a good quarter of the world's population would be in hospitals. Do you have any idea how much of a strain that would have? But all this... this is just pure bullshit. We're not inclusive to AIDS. People get it from unprotected sex. Both straight and gay.

What sort of medical care are you fucking going to give people with it, eh? I'd like to see you try.

Like you stated in the gay marriage debate. It's wrong to force people onto your religion. Oh and guess what you're doing? Shoving Christian america down our throats because everything is going bad because of it. Like Raven already said, if things go back to Christian, it'll most likely turn out like the middle east.

Oh and another thing... did you forget perhaps that all the native humans to America were forced out by the whites, and perhaps that your president is black?

Abortion shouldn't be outlawed. Fucking hell, it's the woman's BABY. SHE should decide what SHE wants to do with it. The only time I agree with abortion is if
a) the woman's life is in serious danger
or
b) the baby is going to be severely handicapped and have no substantial quality of life at all

Other than that, no thanks.

This post has been edited by Starships: Apr 12 2012, 05:18 AM

[Dmitri]

RAVEN YOU BEAUTIFUL PERSON YOU UNLOCKED IT <3333

Before this was locked att, I said my thoughts in my rant thread.
I just think this entire thing is a huge display of intolerance and bigotry.

I really don't know how to say this nicely, but, good sir, please kindly go away for being such a white supremist and bigot against religious freedom and opinions that cannot be expressed because you fucking locked the most controversial thread in the history of ever.

LET'S BEGIN, SHALL WE?

The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

As James Madison, known as the “Chief Architect of the Constitution” stated; ” We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves to control ourselves to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”

AMERICA WAS NOT FOUNDED AS A FUCKING CHRISTIAN NATION YOU RELIGIOUS NUT.
In other words, this is an incorrect statement.
The Constitution never once mentions a deity, because the Founding Fathers wanted to keep their new country "religion-neutral." Our Founding Fathers were an eclectic collection of Atheists, Deists, Christians, Freemasons and Agnostics.George Washington, the Father of our country, and John Adams (Second President ofthe USA) CLEARLY stated in the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion.”G.W. rarely attended church and instead followed a popular 18th century philosophy called Deism—a Star Wars-esque philosophy that believed in a cosmic energy or big-ass universal "Force." The dictionary says that Deism is "a system of thought advocating natural religion based on human reason rather than revelation," that had nothing to do with Christian principles.James Madison, original mastermind of our Constitution, was an Atheist to the core who loved skewering Christianity. In 1785 he wrote, "What have been[Christianity’s] fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”Thomas Jefferson, who sat down and authored The Declaration of Independence,rarely missed an opportunity to laugh at Christianity. In a letter to John Adams in 1823, he wrote: "The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus…will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." More ammo: In 1814, Tommy J. wrote about the Bible's Old and New Testaments, "The whole history of these books is so defective and doubtful -- evidence that parts have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. ”In fact, it was President Jefferson himself who first wrote (to a Baptist church group in 1802), "The First Amendment has erected a wall of separation between Church and State." Therefore, when Jefferson talked about “Nature’s God,” the“Creator” and “divine Providence ” in the Declaration that he wrote, he was being a hippie and referring to a general cosmic energy-- not the Christian God. America is not a Christian nation. Period. Our Constitution derived from the post-Christian Enlightenment values of reason and truth...never from the paranoid yammerings of that otherwise compassionate cult leader who fucking died in the Middle Eastern desert 3000 years ago.
MOVING ON...


The recognition that America was founded as a White nation.

America was born as an extension of White European heritage. Those who formed the very ideals that we cherish such as freedom of speech, trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty, free enterprise, etc. were of White European heritage. All of the early laws of the United States from its very inception restricted citizenship to White people and all of the early charters, laws, compacts, etc were signed into effect by White people.


WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
America is unique because it is a mixing pot of sorts of different races and sexualities and opinions.
Blacks weren't allowed to sign it, you-- you-- AUGH REALLY WHAT THE FUCK I AM MEXICAN AND I AM OFFENDED. I hope you know that our President is black..?
Are you implying we should all have slaves?
YES THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA WHY DON'T WE JUST ENSLAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ONCE AGAIN AND HOPE THAT NO ONE GETS PISSED AND STARTS ANOTHER CIVIL WAR.


Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

These “laws” given to us by the Democrats and Republicans is damaging to the American worker and will eventually put millions upon millions into desperate poverty.


Treaties are good. America has a pretty good military, but fuck, we do not need to be repealing treaties. Nice to know you want people to die in war than in poverty.


Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

The first and only concern of our government should be for the citizens of the United States.

It should, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. I kind-of agree with this, actually.


Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

Hundreds of billions of dollars are sent overseas every year while our people remain in need, our schools need funding, our infrastructure needs rebuilding and our citizens fight to keep their bills paid. This money should be used to support the decaying Social Security and Medicare programs, to help send kids to college, and to rebuild our infrastructure. Keep American Taxes in America!


YES LET'S BE A SELFISH AND COMPASSION-LESS NATION AND FUCK ALL THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES WHO NEED DESPERATE HELP A LOT MORE THAN AMERICANS EXCELLENT IDEA.


Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

We should promote a fair system that allows for a clean environment in our own country and does not interfere with the free enterprise system. We also promote an aggressive search for and use of non-polluting and clean energy sources such as solar energy.


That's a lot easier in theory. We just can't afford to cut-off trade, considering we're in debt. YEAH WE KIND-OF NEED MONEY. Plus cutting off trade is bad in general.

The environmental matter however, I can agree with. We should be looking for cleaner methods which we already are, by the way, except there isn't enough stress on it.


Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

The federal government has enacted programs and laws designed for the exclusive discrimination against those of White European ancestry. Promotions, hiring and scholarships should be based on ability and not upon a person’s race


Why do you point out only white people? Really, do you have a problem with anyone other than the white race or are you just a [i]DIRTY BIGOT? Seriously, blacks, Mexicans, Asians, and etc are discriminated against a fuckton more than white people. |:


Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

America is being over run by illegal immigrants mostly from nonwhite countries who do not share the Christian European values of our nation’s founders. Immigration should remain open to all White Christians throughout the world . There is not one single country that does not persecute it’s White Christian citizens such as in South Africa where the violent crime against Whites is at an all time high. The entire reasoning behind the forming of America was to allow one place in the world where White Christians could live together in harmony without any outside interference from those of other religions or races.


WHAT THE FUCK NO DSJBFVE UI N O NO NO NO NO NO NO YOU DIRTY BIGOT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING WHAT.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS BLACK DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T BE A FUCKING CHRISTIAN OR WHATEVER.
FUCK YOUR RACIST BULLSHIT KINDLY.
NOT EVERYONE HAS TO BE A FUCKING CHRISTIAN.
The entire forming of America was to get away from Britain's king. :| It was not the ENTIRE REASONING TO CREATE A RACIST PLACE WHERE ONLY WHITE PURE CHRISTIANS COULD BE HAPPY.
Immigration should be open to ONLY WHITE CHRISTIANS
WHAT THE FUCK
THAT IS
SO
FUCKED UP
BLACK CHRISTIANS?
NOPE LOL THEY ARE DIRTY SKINNED ~WHITE PEOPLE ONLY SORRY~
OVER HALF OF OUR FOUNDERS WERE ATHEISTS AND NOT CHRISTIAN.
I'm atheist and dark-skinned; you going to kick me out?
My friend is black and Jewish; you going to kick him out?
AUGH
JUST
AUGH


Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

The cure for crime in America is not take guns off the streets but to put more guns ON the streets. Violent criminals should be punished, but law abiding citizens should be allowed to defend their homes, business and families with out fear of the federal government treating them as the criminal.


>MORE GUNS ON THE STREET
>LESS CRIME
seems legit, guys.


Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European (White) culture

We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.


FUCK YOU AND YOUR WHITE SUPREMACY.


Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.


I'm sorry... what? If people want to sell their property, they fucking can. Maybe you should talk to our government about Eminent Domain-- OH WAIT THE MAJORITY OF OUR GOVERNMENT IS WHITE SO IT'S OKAY.


Drug testing for welfare recipients

We recognize that not everyone receiving assistance is on drugs, but those who are should not be receiving your tax money. Welfare should be for those who need it – not those who abuse it.


Most people who try to get Welfare--cripples and drug-addicts alike--don't receive it either way. Highly doubt this would solve issues.


Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

This illegally passed law gives control of our money to a private corporation. We must return to debt free money – interest free currency issued by Congress as prescribed in the U.S. Constitution.


FOREIGN PEOPLE ARE DIRTY. OH MAI GAWD


Balance the budget

Just as any family must balance their budget so must the federal government. Accordingly all present federal debt owed to the criminal private Federal Reserve corporation should be canceled.


Easier said than done.


Rehabilitate our public school system.

We must remove the humanist influence in our schools and teach fact based curriculum to further the students knowledge not someone’s opinion. Parents should have the option of private or home schooling if they prefer and students should be free to practice their Christian faith in the classroom.


SCHOOLS CONSTANTLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST RELIGIONS THAT AREN'T CHRISTIAN OR CATHOLIC.
CHRISTIANITY ISN'T FACT-BASED, IT'S BASED ON SOME BULLSHIT OF A BOOK THAT PEOPLE DECIDE TO BELIEVE BASED ON THEIR FREEDOM OF RELIGION.


A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

This should be the one and only tax allowed. It is the only fair way to collect revenue and does not discriminate against any economic class.


Do want. Sexy flat income tax is sexy.


Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother’s life or in case of rape or incest.

While we stress the need for a moral and Christian lifestyle, we applaud those women who choose to give life when faced with an unplanned pregnancy. Furthermore, we recognize a woman’s right to self-defense. While occurances are rare, a woman should not be forced to carry a rapist’s seed to fruition.


NO. THE MOTHER SHOULD BE ABLE TO DECIDE IF HER BABY DIES. IT SHOULDN'T BE OUTLAWED.


We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

The only way to put an end to this cycle of abuse is to stop the sexual abuser once and for all.


ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE BLACK OR OF DIFFERENT RACE, AMIRITE?
Ahaha, no. I don't approve the death penalty, period. Everyone deserves a second chance if given the appropriate amount of time in jail and rehabilitation.


We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

This is a Christian nation and the Bible condemns homosexual activity and the perversion of our society which it encourages.


IT'S NOT A FUCKING CHRISTIAN NATION.
YOU ARE A DIRTY DIRTY BIGOT AND PEOPLE CAN BE ATTRACTED TO WHOEVER THEY FUCKING WANT.
YOU'RE A RACIST AND A HOMOPHOBE AND I'M SORRY BUT WHAT?


We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

While the AIDS virus is almost inclusive to homosexuals and those not of European ancestry, many innocent people have contacted the virus. Despite the moral character of a person, the virus is still highly contagious with new and deadlier forms coming out constantly. Everyone who gets it dies! Aids carriers should receive proper medical care while a cure is being researched. This is the only way to stop the spread of the disease. They should be kept from coming into contact with uninfected people.


People with AIDS and HIV can be wonderful people and still live long lives. And straight people get HIV and AIDS too, btw. This is just ridiculous.


Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

People should be allowed to hire who they want, live where they want and practice the Christian faith as they please. Likewise people should be able to sell to whom they want , rent to whom they want and socialize and conduct business with who they want. The government should not interfere with the everyday lives of white Christian Americans.


NO NO NO NO
GODDAMNIT FUCK EVERYTHING
YOU ARE SO BIASED AND OH MY GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.
WHY DO YOU KEEP ADDING "WHITE" INFRONT OF CHRISTIAN AMERICANS?
OH I GET IT BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE ARE DIRTY AND CAN'T BE CHRISTIAN.
WHITE SUPREMACY FTW GUYS!!1111111!!!


We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

The brightest and best minds of all races will be able to run their own affairs without outside interference. To support their efforts we should provide the financial and technological resources needed for a limited period of time in the building or rebuilding of their independent nations. After that their success or failure is totally up to them.


IE.
IF YOUR NOT WHITE AND NOT CHRISTIAN, GO AWAY BECAUSE WHITE CHRISTIANS ARE ~PERFECT.~
GO
FUCK
YOURSELF
PLEASE
BTW I WAS BORN HERE AND I'M NOT WHITE AND I'M NOT CHRISTIAN.


Everyone who can work should work

A workfare program should be established to assist those who need help for a limited time. Furthermore we recognize that with an end to the insane economic policies which are currently engaged in this country, many families would not be forced into the welfare system in the first place.


Unless the people are black, right?
So-so on this. I guess I just don't see how I can take you seriously.


We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

We want to see the National Education Association and the Child protective agencies put out of business. Child abusers should receive corporal punishment – if they abuse their children then they should fear the law. However, today too many freedoms are being taken away from parents in the so called name of ” child protection”. Child destruction is their real goal!


HOW CAN THIS POSSIBLY HELP ANYONE AT ALL.


We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes


unless they're not white and christian.


We support state sovereignty resolutions

Each state should be able to officially declare that any power of law not directly given to the federal government by the constitution can be nullified by the state congress. We furthermore recognize that the 10th Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states to be an agent of the states instead of the states being an agent of the federal government.


THAT VIOLATES OUR BILL OF RIGHTS.
:|


We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

We believe that the defense dept. should consist of volunteers of both men and women with women being excluded from combat positions. Furthermore we believe that the defense departments sole mission should be to defend our borders and not those of any other country or nation including the interference into their private affairs.


OH MY GOD YOU'RE SEXIST TOO
WOMEN CAN'T FIGHT
I AM GOING TO PUNCH A BABY


We (The Knights) support all U.S. veterans

We should find those that are missing and take care of those who have come home.


uh what I'm sorry.
I just can't take this seriously anymore.

This post has been edited by Hexxy: Apr 12 2012, 02:56 PM

[Lord Raven]

No need to get hostile and directly insult him or say "fuck you," just because his views come off as rather sheltered.

[Dmitri]

No need to get hostile and directly insult him or say "fuck you," just because his views come off as rather sheltered.

I was mostly saying that due to the blatant racism and junk, should I re-edit it out, or..?

[Some Person]

Hahahaha...

Oh, you're not joking, are you?

Whoa. I'm kinda scared now... But others have made whatever points I want to much better and in more detail than I ever could; just suffice to say, I read about three sentences and scrolled up to hit 'I disagree' as fast as I could.

(And sheltered? I didn't think people this cut off from modern society had internet connection...)

[Lord Raven]

There's a difference between sheltered and whatever you're thinking. Sheltered people, internet aside, don't have the direct interaction that we may have with people of completely difference viewpoints, race, creed, etc, therefore they can't form an opinion that sounds educated to those who have without coming off as completely sheltered.

In some ways, I am sheltered too because I didn't meet a single gay guy until my freshman year of college. I didnt know what alcohol smelled like until this year, and I definitely don't know what weed smells like. This person probably hasn't had to deal with many atheists or minorities outside of the internet, and even on the internet he is still lacking the face-to-face interaction that is important.

[Reyo]

All throughout reading that I got an itch that it sounds all to familiar. Then I looked at the username and realized that this is the same guy from the homosexuality thread. Out of his 3 posts, literally the other two were from that thread. It sounds like you're pretty much right Raven. I'm definitely getting that air that he's been let loose from a very strict religiously conservative household. Either that or he's an under-stimulated internet goer trying to rustle some jimmies. Sounds to me like you know more about what you're talking about with this whole section though.

I can comment on this though ~~

We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

While the AIDS virus is almost inclusive to homosexuals

you're using that word incorrectly I think. Yes, it's inclusive to homosexuals...as in homosexuals can get it...but so can you. Were you thinking of "exclusive"? It would make more contextual sense...though it'd also be incorrect.

and those not of European ancestry, many innocent people have contacted the virus.

The only thing "founded in European ancestry" is cystic fibrosis, which isn't a virus, and not contagious. Saying that isn't much of an argument for your point.

Despite the moral character of a person, the virus is still highly contagious with new and deadlier forms coming out constantly.

I'm actually curious as to whether or not you actually know what it is you're talking about when it comes to these "new and deadlier forms" coming out, or if this is just emotional propaganda. Is the virus mutating? No doubt, but a virus that already causes death can't get much deadlier. Besides, HIV isn't what even kills you...it's the other infections you get that cause havoc on your body thanks to your weakened immune system.

Everyone who gets it dies!

So does everyone...well...ever...

Aids carriers should receive proper medical care while a cure is being researched.

You don't "cure" a virus, you vaccinate against it. It'd be pretty miraculous for there to a) be something that cures a virus and b) for that first virus cured to be HIV. If any virus were to be "cured", the first one would probably be the common cold...or Herpes...just to be generous.

This is the only way to stop the spread of the disease. They should be kept from coming into contact with uninfected people.

That's actually the only correct thing you've said throughout the entire snippet. Figures that it would be the one thing that goes along with the tone of the rest of the content though...

[Lord Raven]

Because the first point I will have no clue what I am talking about, here's the next three before we hit affirmative action, which I can shed a little bit better light on.


The "only" concern of our government should not be the citizens of the United States. Why do I say this? Because nothing "should" happen. Any government should not do everything for just their people, but for the people all throughout the world- everyone, government or not, should do everything in their power to keep the entire world a better place and not just our little bubble over in the west. We are all people, and what better way than international unity to allow the world to thrive and prosper? Every government, not just the US, should do everything in its power to ensure that the world will be safe, and any government that doesn't do so has already failed.

This puts us towards the concept of Foreign Aid. Foreign Aid is very humane because you, once again, as a sheltered person who only lives inside his own bubble and nowhere else have no clue what you're fucking talking about. So our people remain in need, this is true, but other places? Man, they're actually a shitload worse than even our slums can get; they don't have anywhere near our level Medicare, Social Security, and education.

Granted, if you compare us to Europe, we have it fairly shitty; if you compare us to other places, then hoooooooooly crap do we have it here! My relatives in Pakistan have electricity for less than half the day, and this is one of the better portions of Pakistan. My mom mentions growing up and remembering some war going on. And- fuck!- there are countries where women are burned for not following a religion as staunchly as the rest of the country supposedly does. There are countries where, once again, women have no rights. And there are many areas in the world that lack our modern technology, modern civilization, and pretty much live in a state below our standard of poverty. You're saying that we should cut aid to these people because our people won't be as pampered as you'd hope? Christ. The concept of Foreign Aid tends to do more for these types of people than the money would for our people simply because any help is good help to them.

On top of that, how good would it look to cut off foreign aid now? It's too late and we've dug ourselves into a hole anyway; we may interpret it as "we've cut off aid to other countries, our economy might be saved!" They interpret it as "America has left us to dry, what will we do? CURSE AMERICA." As if the rest of the world doesn't think so lowly as us as it stands. Face it, there is very little good that could be coming out of cutting off aid.

As for cutting off trade with countries without strict environmental laws. Eh, that's far too extreme, and frankly it wouldn't really even encourage them to stricten things up; it would just mean we've lost another trade partner.



Sorry, didn't have much to say, I'm fairly relaxed. I might spice up the "foreign aid" part some more, because I do feel more passionately about that but I'm not trying to ruin a good Friday the 13th.

[ImperialWhiteKni...]

There is absolutely no way you are posting this in a debate forum and expecting it to stay as a closed Poll, especially considering the controversial crap you are spewing.

By the way,



Christian America is stupid bullshit. You know how fucking nuts a theocracy is, based upon a singular religion? Go to the middle east. They rule through religion (Islam, by the way, but they misinterpret its true meaning and all context behind Islam so they don't practice anywhere near true Islam) to such an extent that certain groups of people (women included) have almost no rights. My sister is in Qatar- one of the better countries to live in over there- and she was fucking paranoid of getting lost there because one wrong direction leads to Saudi. And then, bam, I probably wouldn't see my sister again for a long time.

You want religion in our country? Fine, but wait for it to turn into what is more or less equivalent to a middle eastern country, where we keep misinterpreting the finer points of the religion and instead use it and interpret it to serve the will of the ruler(s) and the ruler(s) only. None of this "peace, love, and prayer" bullshit will occur in Christian America. Thankfully, this isn't Christian America.

In fact, there is a good fraction of Western Europe that does not associate with religion, and their standard of living trumps ours greatly. I've ranted about this too many times in the past, but you are fucking wrong and as soon as I get the energy and I will make sure I eviscerate every single letter of this rant without ad hominem or all caps, because this shit does not stand with me.

You wanna dance? Let's dance, because I haven't been in one of these in so fucking long that it's almost refreshing. I'm excited, in fact! As soon as classes are over. Because your mentality, sir, is what fucks over actually hard working and honest people, that do not need any degree of God or religion to do good for their fellow man.

Before anyone comes in and gets offended, no I am not spitting on religion, I am merely spitting on a rule through religion simply because of the *many* misinterpretations that come out of religion, simply for the gain of power. Religion is a beautiful thing by itself, but to rule through is another issue entirely.



So there's my take on your religion stuff. Next: Mercenary Raven talks about race and the fact that this kid is quite clearly too sheltered to know what he's talking about with regards to race!




America was born far before this "White European" heritage crap. In fact, all heritage traces back to Africa; in other words, why does the color of one's skin matter if we're all human beings? We are all trying to get along in this life of ours, and frankly a sense of community is exactly what we need to bring this together. But sadly, I'm as awake as anything else, cramming for a fucking exam that I have in 6 hours (and counting!), so this dream world of mine cannot exist, especially not tonight.

Instead, let's try to make things as good as possible, eh? Maybe I could pull off the 94% I need on this exam to take the next exam more relaxed. Maybe I could pull off an 80 and just get a perfect on the next exam (my study habits are getting better! One more month till finals! smh). Oh wait, we should be talking about race, shouldn't we? F that noise.

The pressing question is, why did the race of the people matter when the law was being signed? Trick question, it didn't. White European is a very broad race, and it encompasses a lot of very different cultures in and of themselves. That tells us virtually nothing about why this "white" race is so key to our success as a country, when it's already so divided. Besides, everyone has tainted European blood in the end; nobody's in actuality American, aside from those red dudes that an asshole named Andrew Jackson decided to move over to the shittiest part of the US because we took their land and wanted more of it. Even more proof America doesn't actually belong to one "master" white race, more or less.

The people America belonged to are almost completely gone, in fact, because of the cruelty of this white man. This white man wanted only dominance, and you think that the way forward is to trust him? He must want to throw you in front of a bus if it means adding a 0 to the end of his salary, or a 1 at the beginning. You know, something fucking ridiculous. You're actually willing to trust in these people?

Once again, trick question; I am, but if the person proves themselves to be a decent person, and not a greed-driven powerhungry fucking asshole. These laws were created by the tainted hands of the killers of the "true" Americans. To add insult to injury, many of these people were secular! It dents your point as much as it does mine, mind you.

There's a reason these laws didn't stay, by the way. Because it was absolutely inhumane, and people started to realize that black people were people too. After all, it's in the name. Citizenship rights were given to blacks upon realizing that it was the wrong thing to strip them of such. How the fuck would you feel if you were a slave living in the 19th century? Actually, fuck that, it's a rhetorical question; you would feel absolutely horrible, and that's once again what this "white man" did so he could run a plantation and- surprise- gain money! He did provide housing for day-in, day-out labor, which is hardly a fair trade; I'm sure *I'd* rather be homeless than kill myself everyday.

Notice how our country also got into two world wars and a bunch of other dumbshit wars under the influence of the white man. War of 1812? Womp. Civil War? Double womp. World War 1? Those damned Europeans. World War 2? More Europeans, and some Japanese people bombing a harbor hardly offsets a White European that went out of his way and killed almost 10+ million other innocent White Europeans. Vietnam and Korean War? Shouldn't have stuck our noses in there. Iraq War? What did that accomplish again? Right, nothing except we're more or less fucked right now as a result.

Sure, Asians had war crimes too, but fuck the white man causes more of the tragedies you've heard about in our world's history from the past two centuries alone than the black man or anyone else. You want to continue to trust in the white man and see his word as infallible? Just look at the fucking proof of what crimes the white man has committed.

And, like last time, I am taking the piss out of his point, I am not saying anything against the white man. I have merely illustrated the wrongs that the "white man" has done in the past two centuries, more or less illustrating the point that it doesn't matter their race, as long as they are a competent leader that isn't trigger happy about sending the army wherever the fuck they want. Or exterminating around 6 million Jews and 5 million other innocents.




Next time: I cover foreign policy, but I don't know jack shit so I'll just make the OP seem morally in the wrong. Toodles, it's 5am and I still have like 20 pages left to read! Christ, how do you history buffs do this shit?

I take offense to the tone in your writing. If you wish to debate, I would appreciate it if you would keep a more calm and professional tone. I enjoy kindness, because that is what will make us. Hatred only breaks us. Remember that.

Your word verse mine on the founding of this great nation. Remember though, that James Madison was known as the Chief Architect of the Constitution. We don't want America to be ONLY Christian. We want America to be FREE. I simply wanted people to see the foundation of OUR country. The Treaty of Tripoli had to do with our government. It was a simple treaty. Nothing more.

America was founded a white nation. If you disagree with that, you know nothing and are extremely arrogant. There is a reason that WHITE PEOPLE OWNED SLAVES. WHITES designated reservations for Indians. WHITES set the laws. I am not saying it was right, but I am pointing out the obvious. Simply recognize our foundation please.

I am NOT hateful towards other races. I have pride in who God made me. Everyone should. Whites are persecuted in America today because of something they DID NOT MODERNLY DO. Blacks get benefits for what didn't happen to them modernly. Black people don't need a black history month. It's absolutely discriminatory!

Blacks sold blacks. America was an UPGRADE from slavery in Africa. African-Americans would probably still be slaves today in even WORSE conditions. Not only that, but it's culture. Black culture is very different from white culture. This is also an obvious fact.

We shouldn't be forced together if we don't want to be. Take a look at the statistics, black people cause a of the majority of crime in the United States even though they are a minority... for the time being. Their average IQ level is 85, while that of your average white is 100. They are more prone to STDs. They form gangs, prostitution rings, and drug rings. These are facts you CAN'T DENY. This is why I simply feel more comfortable associating myself with others like me. Don't point fingers if you don't want them pointed back.

(I am not saying it is JUST blacks, sure there are whites that do wrong as well. I am not saying all blacks do this either. That would be plain hateful!)

Of course whites are going to be in a lot of faults, we are practically running everything. We are everywhere you look. A majority. Africa is a poor country. They can't do much politically or war-wise.

I don't support hatred, Hitler, supremacism, or any sort of discrimination. I DO support facts however. What you state is your opinion and I respect it. I won't degrade it or make fun of it. I will state my views and I won't discriminate yours because that isn't what good patriotic American people do.

We want people to have choice. You earn heaven, and you choose where you end up through YOUR actions according to the Bible. We believe that your choices should be sincere. Religion shouldn't be forced on anyone!

I am loving, NOT hating. I believe the things I believe because I feel that it is what is best for the American people.

Please respect my views, and I will do the same for you. It is only right. My apologies I couldn't give a better detailed and effective reply, I had a short time to make this response. I just checked my email. Please address any issues I might have missed, if you don't mind doing so. I would be more than happy to let you see my side of things as long as you are going to respect them as I do yours. Thanks.

[Lord Raven]

I take offense to the tone in your writing. If you wish to debate, I would appreciate it if you would keep a more calm and professional tone. I enjoy kindness, because that is what will make us. Hatred only breaks us. Remember that.

Sucks, because your preaching of returning to our American "roots" is simply bogus.

Your word verse mine on the founding of this great nation. Remember though, that James Madison was known as the Chief Architect of the Constitution. We don't want America to be ONLY Christian. We want America to be FREE. I simply wanted people to see the foundation of OUR country. The Treaty of Tripoli had to do with our government. It was a simple treaty. Nothing more.

The foundation of our country is not at all Christian in nature.

James Madison was a Deist, by the way. That's right, our Constitution's chief architect believed in the most secular view of God you can imagine. The Treaty of Tripoli was an extension of the fact that we are not a Christian nation, and never were.

America was founded a white nation. If you disagree with that, you know nothing and are extremely arrogant. There is a reason that WHITE PEOPLE OWNED SLAVES. WHITES designated reservations for Indians. WHITES set the laws. I am not saying it was right, but I am pointing out the obvious. Simply recognize our foundation please.

And my question to you is: why does this matter? Why does the racial foundation of our country matter? Key fact: it doesn't, and it only serves to isolate those that aren't white. Choose your words better before you accuse me of having poor tone.

I am NOT hateful towards other races. I have pride in who God made me. Everyone should. Whites are persecuted in America today because of something they DID NOT MODERNLY DO. Blacks get benefits for what didn't happen to them modernly. Black people don't need a black history month. It's absolutely discriminatory!

Not everyone believes in God. Not everyone takes "Black History Month" seriously anyway, and if anything it serves as more of a "don't let segregation or racial tensions ever happen again" by looking at the history of black people in America as opposed to "yay we're black let's celebrate!"

Blacks sold blacks. America was an UPGRADE from slavery in Africa. African-Americans would probably still be slaves today in even WORSE conditions. Not only that, but it's culture. Black culture is very different from white culture. This is also an obvious fact.

Blacks sold blacks => slavery in the United States was still okay. I would think a bunch of people escaping religious persecution in Europe would be more sympathetic to this sort of thing, but you know, my ideals don't always work, right?

We shouldn't be forced together if we don't want to be. Take a look at the statistics, black people cause a of the majority of crime in the United States even though they are a minority... for the time being. Their average IQ level is 85, while that of your average white is 100. They are more prone to STDs. They form gangs, prostitution rings, and drug rings. These are facts you CAN'T DENY. This is why I simply feel more comfortable associating myself with others like me. Don't point fingers if you don't want them pointed back.

(I am not saying it is JUST blacks, sure there are whites that do wrong as well. I am not saying all blacks do this either. That would be plain hateful!)

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know how much of this is because of the white man, then? A lot of it is attributed to the fact that they were considered to be the inferior race for around 70-80% of the country! It's no wonder we have a black history month and affirmative action, because imbeciles like you feel the need to point this shit out every single time it's brought up!

You know what though? A bunch of black people I know personally are exactly as smart as the white people I know. They are also less prone to STDs and they don't form these gangs/prostitution rings/drug rings at all, and come nowhere close. And these white people? Just about the same! You know why? It's a region think more than a fucking race thing. Much of this is an ongoing result of segregation, because blacks were "inferior" and were confined to ghettos whilst the whites had all the power in the world. They were often times prevented from being able to fucking vote the people out of office who allows these laws! Nobody gave any bit of a fuck about what happened to them, so in order to get money? They had to do some of these things.

Immortal Technique, while I don't listen to them much anymore (and I never particularly listened to them), gives a good perspective as to why some of this happened. Many needed money, and it destroyed their futures and caused them to live in shitholes and it further affects their families. It's a vicious loop, and it fucking sucks. People like you who keep them isolated and keep yourself from associating from them because of a regional trait of people and not a racial trait only serve to feed this endless cycle.

AIDS originated from Africa, not black people. Non-blacks are perfectly able to contract it, too. There is nothing genetic about black people that causes them to be more prone- in fact, they're called sexually transmitted diseases for a reason. The more you fuck, the more prone you are, in other words. Didn't know that black people were somehow more prone to this, when they probably reproduce as much as a non-black.

Also, IQ is a bullshit form of measurement of intelligent, which I feel is way too obvious to point out. You really have no fucking clue what you're talking about, do you?

Of course whites are going to be in a lot of faults, we are practically running everything. We are everywhere you look. A majority. Africa is a poor country. They can't do much politically or war-wise.

Africa is not a country. I don't understand how someone who hellbent on stating "facts" manages to say that Africa is a fucking country.

Seriously, how the fuck are you not claiming you're a white supremacist? You're saying "whites are EVERYWHERE" when, taking into account eastern Asia, I'm pretty sure Indian people and Chinese people outnumber you. Put this into perspective; America has close to only 30% of China's population, and 35% of India's population. Europe itself has only 60% of China's population. Simple mathematics easily tells you that white people are not a majority.

I don't support hatred, Hitler, supremacism, or any sort of discrimination. I DO support facts however. What you state is your opinion and I respect it. I won't degrade it or make fun of it. I will state my views and I won't discriminate yours because that isn't what good patriotic American people do.

You support facts and twisting them in a miserable way to make your all-but-in-name white supremacist America our reality. No, sir, you are discriminatory, and you very much come off as such. Nobody makes a passive-aggressive "America was made by whites for whites" without coming off as a racist, especially because you're saying "here is a fix to our problems." A good patriotic American doesn't spew this shit; we are the melting pot and supposed to be a religiously and racially tolerant nation; spewing "we should go back to our white/christian roots" is actually coming further from that.

The fact that you mention Hitler here is astounding, because my point was "this is examples of white people who, upon having power, really did something brutal and horrible with it." Because you claim that we should go back to the "white foundation" our nation.

We want people to have choice. You earn heaven, and you choose where you end up through YOUR actions according to the Bible. We believe that your choices should be sincere. Religion shouldn't be forced on anyone!

I am loving, NOT hating. I believe the things I believe because I feel that it is what is best for the American people.

Heaven doesn't exist. Not to me. You accuse me of arrogance, but you very much think everything you say- basically, extending every single trait *you* have as being what America should be- is far more arrogant than anything I could ever say.

And in the same paragraph, you pretty much said you should live according to the Bible and we shouldn't push religion on anyone; hypocrisy at its finest, and self-contradictory.

Please respect my views, and I will do the same for you. It is only right. My apologies I couldn't give a better detailed and effective reply, I had a short time to make this response. I just checked my email. Please address any issues I might have missed, if you don't mind doing so. I would be more than happy to let you see my side of things as long as you are going to respect them as I do yours. Thanks.

I do not respect your views, especially since your nickname has the same acronym as the Klu Klux Klan- possibly one of the most inhumane organizations in our country.

[Lord Raven]

Yeah, that's really fucked up. The entire preaching of "Christian America" is quite literally making my blood boil and giving me a shitload of tension that should not exist- and it scares me that there was a time in this country where this belief was the norm. How could someone be pro-life but pro-death penalty? How could someone outlaw homosexuality? How could someone, with the proof right in their fucking face still believe this is a Christian nation? How could someone preaching love want to outlaw homosexuality? How could this same person passive-aggressively tell a country that you don't deserve the US' aid, go fuck yourself? There is no "love" in this platform, no tolerance whatsoever. It is a result of irrational hatred that is outdated for a fucking reason by this point. There is nothing "Christian" about these proposals.

But whatever. If the kid wants to still subscribe to these headfucked beliefs, then fucking fine by me. As long as his hatred doesn't spread, and the rest of civilization realizes that there are fundamental flaws in our past. We wouldn't need affirmative action if opportunity weren't robbed from minorities in the 50s by these same principles that this boy is being preached. Perhaps he doesn't know what it's like to suffer and be spit on, because I sincerely hope he ends up feeling the latter from my rants.

[ImperialWhiteKni...]

There is absolutely no way you are posting this in a debate forum and expecting it to stay as a closed Poll, especially considering the controversial crap you are spewing.

By the way,



Christian America is stupid bullshit. You know how fucking nuts a theocracy is, based upon a singular religion? Go to the middle east. They rule through religion (Islam, by the way, but they misinterpret its true meaning and all context behind Islam so they don't practice anywhere near true Islam) to such an extent that certain groups of people (women included) have almost no rights. My sister is in Qatar- one of the better countries to live in over there- and she was fucking paranoid of getting lost there because one wrong direction leads to Saudi. And then, bam, I probably wouldn't see my sister again for a long time.

You want religion in our country? Fine, but wait for it to turn into what is more or less equivalent to a middle eastern country, where we keep misinterpreting the finer points of the religion and instead use it and interpret it to serve the will of the ruler(s) and the ruler(s) only. None of this "peace, love, and prayer" bullshit will occur in Christian America. Thankfully, this isn't Christian America.

In fact, there is a good fraction of Western Europe that does not associate with religion, and their standard of living trumps ours greatly. I've ranted about this too many times in the past, but you are fucking wrong and as soon as I get the energy and I will make sure I eviscerate every single letter of this rant without ad hominem or all caps, because this shit does not stand with me.

You wanna dance? Let's dance, because I haven't been in one of these in so fucking long that it's almost refreshing. I'm excited, in fact! As soon as classes are over. Because your mentality, sir, is what fucks over actually hard working and honest people, that do not need any degree of God or religion to do good for their fellow man.

Before anyone comes in and gets offended, no I am not spitting on religion, I am merely spitting on a rule through religion simply because of the *many* misinterpretations that come out of religion, simply for the gain of power. Religion is a beautiful thing by itself, but to rule through is another issue entirely.



So there's my take on your religion stuff. Next: Mercenary Raven talks about race and the fact that this kid is quite clearly too sheltered to know what he's talking about with regards to race!




America was born far before this "White European" heritage crap. In fact, all heritage traces back to Africa; in other words, why does the color of one's skin matter if we're all human beings? We are all trying to get along in this life of ours, and frankly a sense of community is exactly what we need to bring this together. But sadly, I'm as awake as anything else, cramming for a fucking exam that I have in 6 hours (and counting!), so this dream world of mine cannot exist, especially not tonight.

Instead, let's try to make things as good as possible, eh? Maybe I could pull off the 94% I need on this exam to take the next exam more relaxed. Maybe I could pull off an 80 and just get a perfect on the next exam (my study habits are getting better! One more month till finals! smh). Oh wait, we should be talking about race, shouldn't we? F that noise.

The pressing question is, why did the race of the people matter when the law was being signed? Trick question, it didn't. White European is a very broad race, and it encompasses a lot of very different cultures in and of themselves. That tells us virtually nothing about why this "white" race is so key to our success as a country, when it's already so divided. Besides, everyone has tainted European blood in the end; nobody's in actuality American, aside from those red dudes that an asshole named Andrew Jackson decided to move over to the shittiest part of the US because we took their land and wanted more of it. Even more proof America doesn't actually belong to one "master" white race, more or less.

The people America belonged to are almost completely gone, in fact, because of the cruelty of this white man. This white man wanted only dominance, and you think that the way forward is to trust him? He must want to throw you in front of a bus if it means adding a 0 to the end of his salary, or a 1 at the beginning. You know, something fucking ridiculous. You're actually willing to trust in these people?

Once again, trick question; I am, but if the person proves themselves to be a decent person, and not a greed-driven powerhungry fucking asshole. These laws were created by the tainted hands of the killers of the "true" Americans. To add insult to injury, many of these people were secular! It dents your point as much as it does mine, mind you.

There's a reason these laws didn't stay, by the way. Because it was absolutely inhumane, and people started to realize that black people were people too. After all, it's in the name. Citizenship rights were given to blacks upon realizing that it was the wrong thing to strip them of such. How the fuck would you feel if you were a slave living in the 19th century? Actually, fuck that, it's a rhetorical question; you would feel absolutely horrible, and that's once again what this "white man" did so he could run a plantation and- surprise- gain money! He did provide housing for day-in, day-out labor, which is hardly a fair trade; I'm sure *I'd* rather be homeless than kill myself everyday.

Notice how our country also got into two world wars and a bunch of other dumbshit wars under the influence of the white man. War of 1812? Womp. Civil War? Double womp. World War 1? Those damned Europeans. World War 2? More Europeans, and some Japanese people bombing a harbor hardly offsets a White European that went out of his way and killed almost 10+ million other innocent White Europeans. Vietnam and Korean War? Shouldn't have stuck our noses in there. Iraq War? What did that accomplish again? Right, nothing except we're more or less fucked right now as a result.

Sure, Asians had war crimes too, but fuck the white man causes more of the tragedies you've heard about in our world's history from the past two centuries alone than the black man or anyone else. You want to continue to trust in the white man and see his word as infallible? Just look at the fucking proof of what crimes the white man has committed.

And, like last time, I am taking the piss out of his point, I am not saying anything against the white man. I have merely illustrated the wrongs that the "white man" has done in the past two centuries, more or less illustrating the point that it doesn't matter their race, as long as they are a competent leader that isn't trigger happy about sending the army wherever the fuck they want. Or exterminating around 6 million Jews and 5 million other innocents.




Next time: I cover foreign policy, but I don't know jack shit so I'll just make the OP seem morally in the wrong. Toodles, it's 5am and I still have like 20 pages left to read! Christ, how do you history buffs do this shit?

How about I give you a better and more accurate portrayal of the separation between Church and state and answer a few of your questions if you care to learn?

Q. If the First Amendment states there is to be a separation of church and state, how can The Knights explain their goal of a Christian government?

A. We suggest you read the article Separation of Church and State: A Diabolical Lie. Not just The Knights, but many historians and well known religious leaders and constitutional attorneys all agree that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. The Supreme Court has even ruled that indeed America was founded as a Christian nation. We are not trying to change America, but rather return it to it’s original form.

Also, while we are bringing up this subject we must discuss the Treaty of Tripoli. This is what naysayers like to point to when we say that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. It is the only thing they can point to, but as you will see, they have nothing to base their opinion on.

The 1797 treaty was one of several that America negotiated with Muslim nations in which five Muslim countries were using pirates to attack the property and interests of what they called the “Christian” nations, including America. Not only were their cargoes easy prey but the Barbary Powers were also capturing and enslaving “Christian” seamen.

The anti-American actions began under Washington and several times the U.S. had tried to reach settlements by paying the Muslims huge sums of money. But the Treaty of Tripoli was signed under the presidency of Adams. And both Jefferson and Adams were upset that U.S. merchant sailors were being viewed as wimps by the Muslims. While discussing the Barbary conflict with Jefferson, Adams declared:
The policy of Christendom has made cowards of all their sailors before the standard of Mahomet. It would be heroical and glorious in us to restore courage to ours.

If the treaty was signed by Adams, does this mean that Adams agreed that the United States was not a Christian nation? No. it was Adams who declared:
The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were. . . . the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature.

So then why would he sign a treaty that said differently?
Here is the part of the treaty that atheists refer to.
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion as it has in itself no character of enmity [hatred] against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] and as the said States [America] have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

However, I do want to point out that in 1805 under Jefferson, that the treaty was renegotiated and the clause stating that “. . . the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion . . .” was deleted.

But back to the signing of the treaty and why would a devout Christian such as Adams who had said that the United States was founded on Christianity state otherwise?
The United States was not involved in a Holy War. The founding fathers believed in no entangling alliances with other nations. They looked for an expedite way to handle problems. The Muslim nations felt that my attacking the hated Christians, they would receive special favor from Allah.

To some it would seem that the authors of the treaty were being dishonest. After all, the state constitutions, laws, and writings of the founders clearly prove that Christianity was the prevailing faith of the land and that the common law upon which the laws of the states were founded were based upon Holy Scripture.

However, in dealing with these murderous Muslim nations, the treaty authors were quite clever. The Muslim nations, not understanding that the federal government did not constitute the government in its entirety were led to believe that they would receive no divine reward by plundering U.S. ships and murdering U.S. sailors.
The United States Constitution did not establish a religion. Why? Because the federal government was not intended to be the government. It merely represented the rights of the state governments. That is what “United States” in United States of America means. State governments came together and in essence pooled their resources and hired a security guard to protect their combined interests. That is the scope of the federal government – to provide for the safety of the state governments. The Bill of Rights DOES NOT say what the states can do. It says what the federal government CAN NOT do! They can’t establish a religion. Why? It is because the states had already established their religion; the Christian religion. No public office holder could be given a religious test – that is be tested according to denominational tenants. And not to interject something else into this discussion, but this is why states can not use state’s rights as an excuse for restricting gun ownership. The Bill of Rights speaks of unalienable rights. If the federal government can’t restrict gun ownership because it is a God given right, than obviously the states can’t restrict it either. There are some rights that are God given and no government whether state or federal can take it away.

The states which formed the United States understood the chaos that came out of Europe’s mandated denominational system. As Noah Webster explained:
The ecclesiastical establishments of Europe which serve to support tyrannical governments are not the Christian religion but abuses and corruptions of it.
Daniel Webster similarly explained that American Christianity was:
Christianity to which the sword and the fagot [burning stake or hot branding iron] are unknown – general tolerant Christianity is the law of the land!
The states would be Christian, but would allow each person to decide for themselves what particular sect they would belong to. And they acknowledged that no one would be forced to be a Christian. This was the idea of the liberty of conscience. This did not, however, mean that the laws would not be based upon Christian principles. What an individual may or may not believe does not interfere with the foundation of a governing body should that body be based upon certain guidelines

In fact, the Northwest Ordinance, signed by Washington as the first major federal bill was drafted at the same time as the First Amendment. The act stipulated that for a territory to become a State, the “schools and the means of education” in that territory must encourage the “religion, morality, and knowledge” that was “necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind.” Conforming to this requirement, numerous subsequent State constitutions included that clause, and it still appears in State constitutions today. Furthermore, that law is listed in the current federal code, along with the Constitution, the Declaration, and the Articles of Confederation, as one of America’s four “organic” or foundational laws.

General Eaton was the man who was finally given the duty by President Jefferson to end the attacks upon Christian sailors by the use of military means. Although the Treaty of Tripoli had used some fancy footwork by saying the United States government – as in the federal government – was not based upon Christianity, it did not work. The Muslim nations knew that the United States of America was a Christian nation, no matter what any treaty might say. It was all just semantics and they weren’t buying into it. The Muslims would continue to attack the Christian nation and the U.S. would not take decisive military action.

When General Eaton finally started his military action against Tripoli, his personal journal noted:
April 8th. We find it almost impossible to inspire these wild bigots with confidence in us or to persuade them that, being Christians, we can be otherwise than enemies to Musselmen. We have a difficult undertaking!

May 23rd. Hassien Bey, the commander in chief of the enemy’s forces, has offered by private insinuation for my head six thousand dollars and double the sum for me a prisoner; and $30 per head for Christians. Why don’t he come and take it?

All of the documentation surrounding the Treaty of Tripoli prove rather than disprove that the United States was a Christian nation and the war was between a Christian nation and Muslim nations.

Q. Why do you hate black people, Asian people, etc.?

A. This is a misconception many people have. Most have this idea about the Klan because of the entertainment industry. The entertainment industry which includes movie makers, TV producers, publishing houses, national news agencies, etc. are very liberal in their beliefs and agenda. This same industry also makes fun of Christians in general. Christians are portrayed as uptight, insensitive, narrow minded, dull, boring, bigoted people who never have a good time. If you are a white Christian who believes in the old time gospel of racial separation then you are in for an even bigger slew of hogwash. They will portray you as mean, sinister, revengeful, psychotic, illiterate, and filled with rage toward those who aren’t white. This only helps move the liberal agenda forward.

Unfortunately, there are some small Klan groups who play right into their hands. Some people who have perhaps been the victim of a non-white attacker will watch TV or a Hollywood movie about the Klan and then think that is the way Klansmen are suppose to act. Maybe they lost a job due to affirmative action or were victimized in some other way. They will then grow hateful. Of course these individuals won’t have to look very hard to find a Hollywood movie or TV show which tells them the way they are now suppose to act. Without really learning any thing about the true Ku Klux Klan, they proceed on their own, start a little Klan group and then vent their rage by saying the most idiotic things on TV talk shows. This gives the true believers a bad name and they in no way whatsoever represent the thousands of good men and women of The Knights.

This is one reason it takes 6 months to a year to become a full member of The Knights. We want men and women who have a positive attitude, who are success oriented, and who have a high self-esteem. Those who are just hate filled won’t take the time to fulfill our educational requirements and will quit before becoming a Knight. We want men and women who base their beliefs on unselfish love for their own white brothers and sisters. We don’t want those who are only looking for an outlet for their hatred. Hatred never accomplishes anything. We feel terrible for those who have been victims of non-white crime and anti-white discrimination, but turning your life over to hatred isn’t the answer. It will only cause self destruction. On the other hand if you have a deep sense of love for your white brothers and sisters and truly desire for them to have a better life, then your efforts to awaken them to the plot to destroy western Christian civilization will be fruitful. God will bless your efforts which are based on love. He will not bless your efforts which are based on Hate.

Q. Why do you think you are so superior to everyone else?

A. We don’t care who is superior and who isn’t. God made us all. We simply believe that the United States of America was founded as a white Christian nation. We base this belief on the many writings of our founding fathers as well as the Declaration of Independence. We believe there are those who hate the concepts of Western civilization – Christianity – and wish to turn the United States into a different type of nation than what was originally intended by our ancestors. We think it would be terrible if white Christians ceased to exist and we are working to preserve and promote their interests. We feel the concepts of Christianity benefit all people regardless of color. The fact is we have a right to love our children and our heritage. Even if the white race was but mere cavemen and cavewomen, we still have a right to protect and advance our people.

Q. What is your number one goal? (Answers why color matters)

A. We want to stop White genocide. This seems absurd to some people. They look around and they don’t see masses of white bodies floating down a river as one might see with the victims of the Rwandan genocide of recent years. They don’t turn on the evening news and see bodies of massacred white people laid out in a field or on a street. They think white genocide is a joke or some crazy idea we have come up with. They don’t take it seriously.

Here is the definition of genocide:
The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.
Article II describes two elements of the crime of genocide:
1) the mental element, meaning the “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such”, and
2) the physical element which includes five acts described in sections a, b, c, d and e. A crime must include both elements to be called “genocide.”
Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;

(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;

© Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

(d) Attempt to commit genocide;

(e) Complicity in genocide. ”
It is a crime to plan or incite genocide, even before killing
starts, and to aid or abet genocide: Criminal acts include conspiracy, direct and public incitement, attempts to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide.
Punishable Acts The following are genocidal acts when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence:

Killing members of the group includes direct killing and actions causing death.
Causing serious bodily or mental harm includes inflicting trauma on members of the group through widespread torture, rape, sexual violence, forced or coerced use of drugs, and mutilation.

Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a group includes the deliberate deprivation of resources needed for the group’s physical survival, such as clean water, food, clothing, shelter or medical services. Deprivation of the means to sustain life can be imposed through confiscation of harvests, blockade of foodstuffs, detention in camps, forcible relocation or expulsion into deserts.

Prevention of births includes involuntary sterilization, forced abortion, prohibition of marriage, and long-term separation of men and women intended to prevent procreation.

Forcible transfer of children may be imposed by direct force or by fear of violence, duress, detention, psychological oppression or other methods of coercion. The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines children as persons under the age of 18 years.

Genocidal acts need not kill or cause the death of members of a group. Causing serious bodily or mental harm, prevention of births and transfer of children are acts of genocide when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence.
The law protects four groups – national, ethnical, racial or religious groups.
A national group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by a common country of nationality or national origin.

An ethnical group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common cultural traditions, language or heritage.

A racial group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by physical characteristics.

A religious group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common religious creeds, beliefs, doctrines, practices, or rituals.

Key Terms
The crime of genocide has two elements: intent and action. “Intentional” means purposeful. Intent can be proven directly from statements or orders. But more often, it must be inferred from a systematic pattern of coordinated acts.
Intent is different from motive. Whatever may be the motive for the crime (land expropriation, national security, territorial integrity, etc.), if the perpetrators commit acts intended to destroy a group, even part of a group, it is genocide.

The phrase “in whole or in part” is important. Perpetrators need not intend to destroy the entire group. Destruction of only part of a group (such as its educated members, or members living in one region) is also genocide. Most authorities require intent to destroy a substantial number of group members – mass murder. But an individual criminal may be guilty of genocide even if he kills only one person, so long as he knew he was participating in a larger plan to destroy the group.

Genocide is the planned extermination of a people. Genocide may sound too extreme to be applied to what is happening to white people. However, social engineers have in fact orchestrated the demise of white people. It is being done through the manipulation of political, educational, business, and entertainment leaders. The process is slow, but intended to be thorough and lasting. Ironically, many of these “social engineers” are actually white themselves. They are betraying their own people out of a sense of self hatred and reward.

Statistics and the signs of the times clearly show that within 25 years white people will not only be a minority race in the United States but a minority that will be in the midst of a genocide.
Besides millions of blacks that live in the United States now, we have millions immigrating annually. “Euro-whites, who were the majority 90% of the US population in 1950, will be in 2050 only 50% of the population.” America will soon be brown with Asians, non-white Hispanics, and Negroes. Oh, yes and a sprinkling of whites here and there.
The coming white genocide has already started and is in its first stages. Whites today in record numbers are leaving areas that non-whites are filling up. The state of California is a prime example. White flight is nothing more than ethnic cleansing of whites. Violence and discrimination against whites in the large cities are forcing them to hand over America’s metropolitan areas and many smaller areas as well to non-whites.

Soon America will be Brown – will whites be treated as humanely by nonwhites as whites have treated them?

The discrimination and violence perpetrated against whites in America is accomplished through the mindset Americans are being lulled into which is that white people are just parasites on the world and if there wasn’t any such thing as “whiteness” ahh the world would be so much nicer. This is why it is so important for them to destroy white culture and heritage and to malign our heroes and ideas in our schools and universities. The book “Hating Whitey” documents widespread anti white speech by professors in classrooms across America openly smearing whites as the scourge of mankind.

Evidence points that the non-whites in America today, mainly the black and the massive Hispanic population are very much anti-white. The blacks of today suffer from Victim Based identity.

In short it means that blacks since birth are taught they are the victims of the white race and they must overcome this by any means.

The non-white Hispanics believe they have a historic grievance against the United States. They believe we robbed their country of half its land when Mexico was young and weak.

An example of white genocide is the small country of Zimbabwe in Southern Africa. There are 200,000 whites compared to about 12 million blacks, and the leader of the country is black and the violence against whites is coming close to catastrophic. This is an accurate example of what will happen when blacks outnumber whites.

The genocide against our race will take many decades, but the time is steadily becoming short. And this genocide is not based on geography, but race. It is a world wide phenomena.

Whites will be faced with crime rates never seen before in history, in some places mass killings, arrests and displacement, will occur.

Consider this: On May 5, 1997, Mahathir Bin Mohamad, the Prime Minister of Malaysia, advocated the “flooding of developed countries with millions of migrants if globalization fails to improve the lot of poor nations.”

This is the same guy who in March of 1998 was reported to have rounded up and refused admittance to 5,000 illegal aliens who were waiting along Sumatra’s borders hoping to enter and find jobs. In one of his speeches, which to my knowledge was never published in America’s press, Mahathir declared:
“We do have the ultimate weapon. People are more mobile now. They can go anywhere. In a borderless world we can go anywhere. If we are not allowed a good life in our countries, if we are going to be global citizens, then we should migrate north. We should migrate north in our millions, legally or illegally. masses of Asians and Africans should inundate Europe and America. If there is any strength that we have, it is in the numbers. Three fourths of the world is either black, brown, yellow or some combination of these. We will make all nations in the world rainbow nations.”

Whites are in fact the global minority hovering around 11% of the population. Historically white nations are seeing drastic demographic changes and within two decades will also be minority white. White people are being systematically replaced, maligned, targeted, slandered, and victimized both physically and mentally. This is genocide!

Do you care?

[Reyo]

Sweet Jesus guy, any particular reason for the ginormongous font size?

How about I give you a better and more accurate portrayal of the separation between Church and state and answer a few of your questions if you care to learn?

Q. If the First Amendment states there is to be a separation of church and state, how can The Knights explain their goal of a Christian government?

A. We suggest you read the article Separation of Church and State: A Diabolical Lie. Not just The Knights, but many historians and well known religious leaders and constitutional attorneys all agree that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. The Supreme Court has even ruled that indeed America was founded as a Christian nation. We are not trying to change America, but rather return it to it’s original form.

Also, while we are bringing up this subject we must discuss the Treaty of Tripoli. This is what naysayers like to point to when we say that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. It is the only thing they can point to, but as you will see, they have nothing to base their opinion on.

The 1797 treaty was one of several that America negotiated with Muslim nations in which five Muslim countries were using pirates to attack the property and interests of what they called the “Christian” nations, including America. Not only were their cargoes easy prey but the Barbary Powers were also capturing and enslaving “Christian” seamen.

The anti-American actions began under Washington and several times the U.S. had tried to reach settlements by paying the Muslims huge sums of money. But the Treaty of Tripoli was signed under the presidency of Adams. And both Jefferson and Adams were upset that U.S. merchant sailors were being viewed as wimps by the Muslims. While discussing the Barbary conflict with Jefferson, Adams declared:
The policy of Christendom has made cowards of all their sailors before the standard of Mahomet. It would be heroical and glorious in us to restore courage to ours.

If the treaty was signed by Adams, does this mean that Adams agreed that the United States was not a Christian nation? No. it was Adams who declared:
The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were. . . . the general principles of Christianity. . . . I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature.

So then why would he sign a treaty that said differently?
Here is the part of the treaty that atheists refer to.
As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion as it has in itself no character of enmity [hatred] against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] and as the said States [America] have never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

However, I do want to point out that in 1805 under Jefferson, that the treaty was renegotiated and the clause stating that “. . . the United States is in no sense founded on the Christian religion . . .” was deleted.

But back to the signing of the treaty and why would a devout Christian such as Adams who had said that the United States was founded on Christianity state otherwise?
The United States was not involved in a Holy War. The founding fathers believed in no entangling alliances with other nations. They looked for an expedite way to handle problems. The Muslim nations felt that my attacking the hated Christians, they would receive special favor from Allah.

To some it would seem that the authors of the treaty were being dishonest. After all, the state constitutions, laws, and writings of the founders clearly prove that Christianity was the prevailing faith of the land and that the common law upon which the laws of the states were founded were based upon Holy Scripture.

However, in dealing with these murderous Muslim nations, the treaty authors were quite clever. The Muslim nations, not understanding that the federal government did not constitute the government in its entirety were led to believe that they would receive no divine reward by plundering U.S. ships and murdering U.S. sailors.
The United States Constitution did not establish a religion. Why? Because the federal government was not intended to be the government. It merely represented the rights of the state governments. That is what “United States” in United States of America means. State governments came together and in essence pooled their resources and hired a security guard to protect their combined interests. That is the scope of the federal government – to provide for the safety of the state governments. The Bill of Rights DOES NOT say what the states can do. It says what the federal government CAN NOT do! They can’t establish a religion. Why? It is because the states had already established their religion; the Christian religion. No public office holder could be given a religious test – that is be tested according to denominational tenants. And not to interject something else into this discussion, but this is why states can not use state’s rights as an excuse for restricting gun ownership. The Bill of Rights speaks of unalienable rights. If the federal government can’t restrict gun ownership because it is a God given right, than obviously the states can’t restrict it either. There are some rights that are God given and no government whether state or federal can take it away.

The states which formed the United States understood the chaos that came out of Europe’s mandated denominational system. As Noah Webster explained:
The ecclesiastical establishments of Europe which serve to support tyrannical governments are not the Christian religion but abuses and corruptions of it.
Daniel Webster similarly explained that American Christianity was:
Christianity to which the sword and the fagot [burning stake or hot branding iron] are unknown – general tolerant Christianity is the law of the land!
The states would be Christian, but would allow each person to decide for themselves what particular sect they would belong to. And they acknowledged that no one would be forced to be a Christian. This was the idea of the liberty of conscience. This did not, however, mean that the laws would not be based upon Christian principles. What an individual may or may not believe does not interfere with the foundation of a governing body should that body be based upon certain guidelines

In fact, the Northwest Ordinance, signed by Washington as the first major federal bill was drafted at the same time as the First Amendment. The act stipulated that for a territory to become a State, the “schools and the means of education” in that territory must encourage the “religion, morality, and knowledge” that was “necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind.” Conforming to this requirement, numerous subsequent State constitutions included that clause, and it still appears in State constitutions today. Furthermore, that law is listed in the current federal code, along with the Constitution, the Declaration, and the Articles of Confederation, as one of America’s four “organic” or foundational laws.

General Eaton was the man who was finally given the duty by President Jefferson to end the attacks upon Christian sailors by the use of military means. Although the Treaty of Tripoli had used some fancy footwork by saying the United States government – as in the federal government – was not based upon Christianity, it did not work. The Muslim nations knew that the United States of America was a Christian nation, no matter what any treaty might say. It was all just semantics and they weren’t buying into it. The Muslims would continue to attack the Christian nation and the U.S. would not take decisive military action.

When General Eaton finally started his military action against Tripoli, his personal journal noted:
April 8th. We find it almost impossible to inspire these wild bigots with confidence in us or to persuade them that, being Christians, we can be otherwise than enemies to Musselmen. We have a difficult undertaking!

May 23rd. Hassien Bey, the commander in chief of the enemy’s forces, has offered by private insinuation for my head six thousand dollars and double the sum for me a prisoner; and $30 per head for Christians. Why don’t he come and take it?

All of the documentation surrounding the Treaty of Tripoli prove rather than disprove that the United States was a Christian nation and the war was between a Christian nation and Muslim nations.

The main issue with the argument that the Unites states was founded as a "Christian Nation" is the question of how far back America needs to go with it's dealings. Since it's founding in 1776, the United States has undergone several changes in the Constitution for the sake of incorporating new cultural, and scientific trends and discoveries that weren't relevant back then. Women and blacks were given the right to freedom and the right to vote given suffrage and equal rights. The American people wanted it and had the majority, so it was passed as such. You forget that while many changes have been done to the constitution, those changes were allowed to happen, and for good reason. An inflexible, rigid set of laws can not stand.

Now, I'm not enough of a History buff to be able to argue the topic of just how much of a "Christian State" our founding fathers believed in, but still. How far back should we go?

Q. Why do you hate black people, Asian people, etc.?

A. This is a misconception many people have. Most have this idea about the Klan because of the entertainment industry. The entertainment industry which includes movie makers, TV producers, publishing houses, national news agencies, etc. are very liberal in their beliefs and agenda. This same industry also makes fun of Christians in general. Christians are portrayed as uptight, insensitive, narrow minded, dull, boring, bigoted people who never have a good time. If you are a white Christian who believes in the old time gospel of racial separation then you are in for an even bigger slew of hogwash. They will portray you as mean, sinister, revengeful, psychotic, illiterate, and filled with rage toward those who aren’t white. This only helps move the liberal agenda forward.

Unfortunately, there are some small Klan groups who play right into their hands. Some people who have perhaps been the victim of a non-white attacker will watch TV or a Hollywood movie about the Klan and then think that is the way Klansmen are suppose to act. Maybe they lost a job due to affirmative action or were victimized in some other way. They will then grow hateful. Of course these individuals won’t have to look very hard to find a Hollywood movie or TV show which tells them the way they are now suppose to act. Without really learning any thing about the true Ku Klux Klan, they proceed on their own, start a little Klan group and then vent their rage by saying the most idiotic things on TV talk shows. This gives the true believers a bad name and they in no way whatsoever represent the thousands of good men and women of The Knights.

This is one reason it takes 6 months to a year to become a full member of The Knights. We want men and women who have a positive attitude, who are success oriented, and who have a high self-esteem. Those who are just hate filled won’t take the time to fulfill our educational requirements and will quit before becoming a Knight. We want men and women who base their beliefs on unselfish love for their own white brothers and sisters. We don’t want those who are only looking for an outlet for their hatred. Hatred never accomplishes anything. We feel terrible for those who have been victims of non-white crime and anti-white discrimination, but turning your life over to hatred isn’t the answer. It will only cause self destruction. On the other hand if you have a deep sense of love for your white brothers and sisters and truly desire for them to have a better life, then your efforts to awaken them to the plot to destroy western Christian civilization will be fruitful. God will bless your efforts which are based on love. He will not bless your efforts which are based on Hate.

I want to say that the underlying question wasn't necessarily why you hate other races, but why we should love our "white brothers" over those of "color."

Q. Why do you think you are so superior to everyone else?

A. We don’t care who is superior and who isn’t. God made us all. We simply believe that the United States of America was founded as a white Christian nation. We base this belief on the many writings of our founding fathers as well as the Declaration of Independence. We believe there are those who hate the concepts of Western civilization – Christianity – and wish to turn the United States into a different type of nation than what was originally intended by our ancestors. We think it would be terrible if white Christians ceased to exist and we are working to preserve and promote their interests. We feel the concepts of Christianity benefit all people regardless of color. The fact is we have a right to love our children and our heritage. Even if the white race was but mere cavemen and cavewomen, we still have a right to protect and advance our people.

1. The white man took America from the Native Americans, and then we brought African Americans over ourselves through the slave trade. In fact, the only sect of people who we didn't directly cause to immigrate to the Americas is that of Asian decent. You want us to homogenize the united states for the Caucasian race when a) we don't even belong here ourselves and b) we're the reason for the need to homogenize. Besides, where are the Native Americans going to go? What are we going to do with them? We can't just ship them back to Native America.

2. We don't have a right to protect and advance our own people in the way you think we do. You say it as though we have that obligation to our race. We don't, we have that obligation to our species, which includes the very people you're hoping to homogenize against.

Q. What is your number one goal? (Answers why color matters)

A. We want to stop White genocide. This seems absurd to some people. They look around and they don’t see masses of white bodies floating down a river as one might see with the victims of the Rwandan genocide of recent years. They don’t turn on the evening news and see bodies of massacred white people laid out in a field or on a street. They think white genocide is a joke or some crazy idea we have come up with. They don’t take it seriously.

Here is the definition of genocide:
The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.
Article II describes two elements of the crime of genocide:
1) the mental element, meaning the “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such”, and
2) the physical element which includes five acts described in sections a, b, c, d and e. A crime must include both elements to be called “genocide.”
Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;

(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;

© Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

(d) Attempt to commit genocide;

(e) Complicity in genocide. ”
It is a crime to plan or incite genocide, even before killing
starts, and to aid or abet genocide: Criminal acts include conspiracy, direct and public incitement, attempts to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide.
Punishable Acts The following are genocidal acts when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence:

Killing members of the group includes direct killing and actions causing death.
Causing serious bodily or mental harm includes inflicting trauma on members of the group through widespread torture, rape, sexual violence, forced or coerced use of drugs, and mutilation.

Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a group includes the deliberate deprivation of resources needed for the group’s physical survival, such as clean water, food, clothing, shelter or medical services. Deprivation of the means to sustain life can be imposed through confiscation of harvests, blockade of foodstuffs, detention in camps, forcible relocation or expulsion into deserts.

Prevention of births includes involuntary sterilization, forced abortion, prohibition of marriage, and long-term separation of men and women intended to prevent procreation.

Forcible transfer of children may be imposed by direct force or by fear of violence, duress, detention, psychological oppression or other methods of coercion. The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines children as persons under the age of 18 years.

Genocidal acts need not kill or cause the death of members of a group. Causing serious bodily or mental harm, prevention of births and transfer of children are acts of genocide when committed as part of a policy to destroy a group’s existence.
The law protects four groups – national, ethnical, racial or religious groups.
A national group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by a common country of nationality or national origin.

An ethnical group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common cultural traditions, language or heritage.

A racial group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by physical characteristics.

A religious group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common religious creeds, beliefs, doctrines, practices, or rituals.

Key Terms
The crime of genocide has two elements: intent and action. “Intentional” means purposeful. Intent can be proven directly from statements or orders. But more often, it must be inferred from a systematic pattern of coordinated acts.
Intent is different from motive. Whatever may be the motive for the crime (land expropriation, national security, territorial integrity, etc.), if the perpetrators commit acts intended to destroy a group, even part of a group, it is genocide.

The phrase “in whole or in part” is important. Perpetrators need not intend to destroy the entire group. Destruction of only part of a group (such as its educated members, or members living in one region) is also genocide. Most authorities require intent to destroy a substantial number of group members – mass murder. But an individual criminal may be guilty of genocide even if he kills only one person, so long as he knew he was participating in a larger plan to destroy the group.

Genocide is the planned extermination of a people. Genocide may sound too extreme to be applied to what is happening to white people. However, social engineers have in fact orchestrated the demise of white people. It is being done through the manipulation of political, educational, business, and entertainment leaders. The process is slow, but intended to be thorough and lasting. Ironically, many of these “social engineers” are actually white themselves. They are betraying their own people out of a sense of self hatred and reward.

I'm snipping this section since I (quite literally) just finished going over this in my Anthropology class. I'm not devaluing the information, I'm just organizing it from the supporting details and the main body.

Statistics and the signs of the times clearly show that within 25 years white people will not only be a minority race in the United States but a minority that will be in the midst of a genocide.
Besides millions of blacks that live in the United States now, we have millions immigrating annually. “Euro-whites, who were the majority 90% of the US population in 1950, will be in 2050 only 50% of the population.” America will soon be brown with Asians, non-white Hispanics, and Negroes. Oh, yes and a sprinkling of whites here and there.
The coming white genocide has already started and is in its first stages. Whites today in record numbers are leaving areas that non-whites are filling up. The state of California is a prime example. White flight is nothing more than ethnic cleansing of whites. Violence and discrimination against whites in the large cities are forcing them to hand over America’s metropolitan areas and many smaller areas as well to non-whites.

Soon America will be Brown – will whites be treated as humanely by nonwhites as whites have treated them?

The discrimination and violence perpetrated against whites in America is accomplished through the mindset Americans are being lulled into which is that white people are just parasites on the world and if there wasn’t any such thing as “whiteness” ahh the world would be so much nicer. This is why it is so important for them to destroy white culture and heritage and to malign our heroes and ideas in our schools and universities. The book “Hating Whitey” documents widespread anti white speech by professors in classrooms across America openly smearing whites as the scourge of mankind.

Evidence points that the non-whites in America today, mainly the black and the massive Hispanic population are very much anti-white. The blacks of today suffer from Victim Based identity.

In short it means that blacks since birth are taught they are the victims of the white race and they must overcome this by any means.

The non-white Hispanics believe they have a historic grievance against the United States. They believe we robbed their country of half its land when Mexico was young and weak.

An example of white genocide is the small country of Zimbabwe in Southern Africa. There are 200,000 whites compared to about 12 million blacks, and the leader of the country is black and the violence against whites is coming close to catastrophic. This is an accurate example of what will happen when blacks outnumber whites.

The genocide against our race will take many decades, but the time is steadily becoming short. And this genocide is not based on geography, but race. It is a world wide phenomena.

Whites will be faced with crime rates never seen before in history, in some places mass killings, arrests and displacement, will occur.

Consider this: On May 5, 1997, Mahathir Bin Mohamad, the Prime Minister of Malaysia, advocated the “flooding of developed countries with millions of migrants if globalization fails to improve the lot of poor nations.”

This is the same guy who in March of 1998 was reported to have rounded up and refused admittance to 5,000 illegal aliens who were waiting along Sumatra’s borders hoping to enter and find jobs. In one of his speeches, which to my knowledge was never published in America’s press, Mahathir declared:
“We do have the ultimate weapon. People are more mobile now. They can go anywhere. In a borderless world we can go anywhere. If we are not allowed a good life in our countries, if we are going to be global citizens, then we should migrate north. We should migrate north in our millions, legally or illegally. masses of Asians and Africans should inundate Europe and America. If there is any strength that we have, it is in the numbers. Three fourths of the world is either black, brown, yellow or some combination of these. We will make all nations in the world rainbow nations.”

Whites are in fact the global minority hovering around 11% of the population. Historically white nations are seeing drastic demographic changes and within two decades will also be minority white. White people are being systematically replaced, maligned, targeted, slandered, and victimized both physically and mentally. This is genocide!

Do you care?

This is sounding more and more like the ranting of a bully who grew up and realized that the little nerd he lorded over now holds all of the cards for once. You're saying things like "America is quickly turning brown" and proposing questions like "will whites be treated as humanely by nonwhites as whites have treated them?" when you forget that America started off as "brown" and you asking that question suggests that the real dilemma is that you feel guilty for what Caucasians have done in the past. The United States doesn't really belong to us, not by right of homeland or territory. It belongs to the Native Americans. They have the heritage here. Personally, my heritage lies in Ireland, Germany, and Italy. I'm a born and raised American, but I still realize that with all of this talk of "We need to take America back!" that we're being hugely hypocritical.

If you feel there's a problem, then fine, how do we fix it? Personally, I say we let the human race continue to take it's course. You raise your family as best you can, and you die hoping your kid does the same. If your wife happens to be Asian, or Mexican, who the hell cares? That's not genocide, that's normal human evolution. If anything, that's actually better for the human race that complete global homogenization. It's very, VERY common in biology for the heterozygote to be more fit than the homozygote. You know what the problem is? There is no problem. You feel guilty over how history has been laid out and you're afraid that, given the tables have now "turned", you'll be in the shit seat. If you would just stop thinking like you're a part of this elitist sect of human society and realize that you're more obligated to the success of the species, you'll realize how silly all of these alarms are.

[Dmitri]

I am fucking Hispanic. I couldn't get through that massive wall of bullshit without raging.
"The non-white Hispanics believe they have a historic grievance against the United States. They believe we robbed their country of half its land when Mexico was young and weak."
What?
I'm actually non-white, and I know a ton of non-whites myself. None of them think this. Their parents don't think this. Da fuq bruh? I'm not some evil non-white with an assault rifle out shooting white humans.

Just.
No this is a terrible "Party"
the KKK is a racist and hateful organization who repeatedly tried to keep blacks and non-whites from voting via violence that would scare them into place. The KKK has lynched(Hung without trial), beaten, and overall terrorized blacks/nonwhites and anyone who supports them is complicit with their racism-filled actions.
The fact that you expect people to support you is absolutely disgusting.
Good day.

[Lord Raven]

There is no white genocide. America is not a Christian nation (Adams was not a devout Christian you illiterate fuck). Get off your victim complex and high horse and go somewhere else for a fucking moment. You are quite possibly the most ignorant human being I have met on the internet, and that's not a term I throw around lightly.

If I didn't have FE9 MM to play, I would do everything in my power to tear your post apart.

[Poqle McBeth]

The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

The recognition that America was founded as a White nation.

We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

While America was founded with Christianity and white supremacy mostly in its mindset, times have changed much since we've founded our nation. Now society is a whole slew of races, religions, beliefs, etc. Keeping the mindset that white people and Christians are all-supreme in America would be embarrassing and retrograde our society.

Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws

This would be stupid. Trade is what helps the economy thrive, and the economy kind of needs that right now.

Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

The federal government has enacted programs and laws designed for the exclusive discrimination against those of White European ancestry. Promotions, hiring and scholarships should be based on ability and not upon a person’s race

Examples of said programs would be helpful.

Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

Um, no. This would increase crime if anything. You recall the latest news story regarding a neighbourhood vigilante? Oh yeah a kid got shot. I personally think that guns should be legal, but regulated.

Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European (White) culture

Only America's blended cultures come from all over the world now. In fact I dislike Black History Month because I look at it as black people getting their own special month to apologise. I think no race or culture deserves their own special month. That's childish and basically saying "hey look at what my ancestors did that makes me so cool."

Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother’s life or in case of rape or incest.

At least you make this better with the in case of rape. I still think this is the woman's body, her choice.

Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

The thing about this is that usually NO religion is allowed to be preferred by a big business or public place (unless said public place is a church or mosque or something), because everyone gets butthurt about preferences for something else. I do not wish discrimination based on religion, but I don't care if, say, my school was pro-Christian or whatever. As long as they didn't force me to become that faith I wouldn't mind. The thing is you CAN practice Christianity as an individual, but as an employee of any place can't force your religion onto customers.

[ImperialWhiteKni...]

There is no white genocide. America is not a Christian nation (Adams was not a devout Christian you illiterate fuck). Get off your victim complex and high horse and go somewhere else for a fucking moment. You are quite possibly the most ignorant human being I have met on the internet, and that's not a term I throw around lightly.

If I didn't have FE9 MM to play, I would do everything in my power to tear your post apart.

I don't know what a FE9 MM is, but if it's something you absolute have to do I understand. I would like to see your response and I would like to see you back your answer proving me wrong.

There is no white genocide, yet I proved it just for you to say "no"?

America is not a Christian nation even though the supreme court decided that it was?

All you do is insult me and state your un-supported beliefs. I want something other than some biased site. Something more reliable, such as a government statistic, survey, or jurisdiction proving you right. I don't understand your thinking.

How am I ignorant if I am providing sources and answers to your questions? The one on a "high horse" here is you. I dislike your attitude. Cursing is audible stupidity. I am not anyone's enemy here, and you're trying to make it out to be this way. Grow up!

How was Adams not a devout Christian? Could you please take your time to read my post and not just jump. "Tear it apart" if you would like. I enjoy learning!