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What do you think of smokers?
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post Nov 30 2012, 04:34 PM
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I don't like when people smoke. Especially when one person that does is my own mom... I've developed a sensitivity to the smell over the years so that makes it worse. I find it weird that no one seems to care about what it's doing to them or the people around them.

I was turned off smoking forever in the third grade when some people from S.W.A.T. (I think it was them) showed us a healthy lung and a smoker's lung next to each other. Real ones, in separate bags. Also, they gave an example of what smoking could do to vocal cords and the throat itself, and that was scary enough for me. The deal was sealed even further when my grandmother had a heart attack and the doctor told her that her main problem was smoking...

It makes no sense, that's for sure. Seriously, I can't think of any really beneficial things that come from it. Even that feeling of calmness that it gives you could just as easily come from lying down and listening to music or something. Other than that, it ruins you inside and out, it smells awful, it can decrease the value and quality of anything you own, and on top of all that, it kills you! The answer should be obvious here...


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post Nov 30 2012, 06:00 PM
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Ugh, smokers are the worst. People pick smoking for a bad life style. I just wish the smoking will become illegal.
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post Nov 30 2012, 08:36 PM
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I hate smokers. I don't even know why the government sells them. There are no benefits to them, or maybe i'm not seeing the point. I hate the lingering smell it leaves too, especially when its in my house or when someone walks by. Yuck, it's just nasty.
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post Nov 30 2012, 09:30 PM
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I don't take a liking to smokers, but honestly I cannot do anything about it.

I would love to say, 'No more smoking! You all are wasting your money killing yourself and others!' but I can't, I think it is somewhere in the constitution... But I wouldn't want to restrict peoples freedoms anyway, I mean if you restrict the right to smoke, what is next? No owning guns? No practicing religion? I would love to ban smoking everywhere, but I wouldn't want it to go too far.


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post Dec 1 2012, 05:52 PM
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Personally, I smoke a cig once in a while. I don't think anythings wrong with it. Sure IT MAY give you health problems but it's the PERSONS life choice, NOT yours. Don't worry about such little things. smugnod.gif


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post Feb 24 2013, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(Plastique Fox @ Dec 1 2012, 02:52 PM) *
Personally, I smoke a cig once in a while. I don't think anythings wrong with it. Sure IT MAY give you health problems but it's the PERSONS life choice, NOT yours. Don't worry about such little things. smugnod.gif

But its NOT JUST the person's life, it DOES affect others!! Ever heard of second hand smoke? my mom and dad smoked for a long time, and i have asthma just because of it! And they say that second hand smoke is actually WORSE than actually smoking the cig yourself.
To be honest, i wouldnt care about it if it only affected the person who smoked. probably be good to keep the population in check and get rid of some short-termed thinkers, actually, but it doesnt just affect one person, it affects everybody around that person as well as that person.
But i cant blame it all on smokers; smoking is an addiction, its just like druga ddiction (it IS drug addiction technically), and just like junk food addiction, its almost impossable to stop once you start. But whats worse is how tabacco companies are being just as bad by endourcing smoking. (like what happened recently with a tabacco company that had been lying about how much tabacco was in their cigs and adding extra tabacco or doing whatever that made their cigs stronger and more addicting).
So i really dont care if a smoker knows how to be sensable and considerate to those around them, but its really annoying when somebody just busts out a cig right in the middle of a crowd, or worse, around children. Its just not right to take somebody elses life like that, especially if you dont even know them!


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post Feb 24 2013, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Freeze Shock @ May 18 2012, 11:01 AM) *
QUOTE(Deadchu @ May 18 2012, 03:40 PM) *
What pisses me off is that some people tell people to stop smoking as if it were that easy. Some people clearly hasn't ever dealt with an addiction, or at least not as strong as cigarettes. Nicotine practically brainwashes people and get pissed at every single little thing, and there is no ignoring it either. You can't get your mind off it, because it isn't some lasting "I'm pissed at everything", it's the triggers. There are triggers everywhere. The only thing one can really do is to get nicotine patches and decrease in the use of them little by little and even that it going to be hard.


This.

I'm gonna be blunt here. I used to be a smoker. Well I still am in a way. I wasn't that addicted, but there was addiction there. Until people actually go through an addiction they won't understand how hard it is to stop. It's pretty much impossible to go from 3-4 fags a day to none for the rest of the week.

I think the bit that caused me to realise the problem was learning about the lungs in September last year. As in, not your average 14 year old explanation, I'm talking a 17-18 year old deep explanation. Scared me a lot. I still have the odd one here and there (cutting down a lot to almost none), haven't had one in... 2 weeks or so now? Patches didn't really help, though. I just did it from my own free will.

Best thing I've ever decided to do. Although bearing in mind that my skin, teeth, fingers etc didn't really change much, nor did my clothes. I just wish people would understand how bad it is. Biggest regret starting, biggest achievement with willpower to quit.



Hate to pick on you, but you're wrong. Well, he's wrong, but you're wrong too. You're right, of course, it's your story so it can't be inherently wrong. But it isn't that difficult. My father was a smoker until he found out I was going to be born, and quit then and there cold turkey. No patches, no trigger difficult, just moved on plain and simple. People who smoke need to realize that they have a problem (if it is a problem for them) and just quit. Sure it plugs up your pleasure centers but that's an excuse people hide behind. I've been addicted to chocolate milk before and needed to stop because it was costing me a fortune. What drug is there? Are you going to blame some hormone reaction from the milk?

Case in point, it's easy if you want to.
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post Feb 24 2013, 11:09 PM
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I know some great people who smoke. It breaks my heart that they're hurting their health. I hate that they smoke, but that doesn't mean I hate the person. My aunt smokes, and she's absolutely amazing and I love her dearly. I hate that she smokes, but I don't hate her.



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post Mar 15 2013, 01:23 AM
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People can live their life however they choose so there's no need to judge.

For some people, it's very hard to quit btw, incentive or not. There is a certain degree of psychological addiction that can occur at some point that makes it VERY difficult. And there are no universal methods that work for everyone. I hardly believe that your argument wholly applies Reapehify.


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post Mar 15 2013, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(Reapehify @ Feb 25 2013, 02:16 AM) *
Hate to pick on you, but you're wrong. Well, he's wrong, but you're wrong too. You're right, of course, it's your story so it can't be inherently wrong. But it isn't that difficult. My father was a smoker until he found out I was going to be born, and quit then and there cold turkey. No patches, no trigger difficult, just moved on plain and simple. People who smoke need to realize that they have a problem (if it is a problem for them) and just quit. Sure it plugs up your pleasure centers but that's an excuse people hide behind. I've been addicted to chocolate milk before and needed to stop because it was costing me a fortune. What drug is there? Are you going to blame some hormone reaction from the milk?

Case in point, it's easy if you want to.


There is no drug there. There's a difference between being addicted to something, both physically and mentally, and really liking something (like chocolate milk). You can't really compare the two, or speak as if you know what it's like to suffer from an addiction. It's quite insulting to be honest, similar to saying to someone suffering from depression "I know how it feels, I was sad yesterday, I got over it so should you." Even if you really have suffered from an addiction, not everyone deals with it the same. Just because your dad or my brother or whoever's friend quit easily, doesn't mean everyone else can.

Oh and
QUOTE(hotanddangerous @ Jul 4 2011, 04:23 PM) *
Fuck smokers who don't try to quit, I hope they all get lung cancer and die. And I mean that, I don't care if I offend you.


Honestly I kinda hope I do too, otherwise I'd care to try and quit.

This post has been edited by Yuno Gasai: Mar 15 2013, 06:06 PM


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QUOTE(hotanddangerous @ Jul 4 2011, 10:23 AM) *
An extremely paraphrased argument with a smoker I had over here in the UK.

-Person smoking, sitting on bench doing nothing-
Me: Hey, can you stop smoking, this is a public place?
Smoker: No thanks, I can do what I want. This smoking ban's stupid.
Me: Why's that?
Smoker: It's against our human rights. They can't control me. I get to choose, I don't care about lung cancer.
Me: And it's against my human rights for you to smoke here, passing it on to me, and possibly increasing my chances of a multitude of diseases.
Smoker: Why don't you move?
Me: No, I'm waiting for someone in that shop. You're not.
Smoker: Whatever it's my choice. Smoking isn't illegal.
Me: Actually, it is here, in a public place. And what would you think is cocaine or heroin was legalised?
Smoker: Well no, that's bad for you, bu-
Me: So is smoking.
Smoker: It can't be that bad if the government's not made it illegal.
Me: It's only legal because they make so much money off the VAT.
Smoker: Oh whatever, stupid kids
-Smoker gets up and walks away-

Fuck smokers who don't try to quit, I hope they all get lung cancer and die. And I mean that, I don't care if I offend you.


Seriously?
I quit, and unless you have I suggest you shut your damn mouth, cause that's just hateful ignorance spewing out of it.


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post Mar 18 2013, 06:51 PM
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if they want to smoke then let them; they're hurting themselves though. the thing i hate is if they live with others that don't smoke, like kids or pets or spouses, etc, because secondhand smoke is just as dangerous. and...smoking is kind of disgusting... cigarette ingredients include the same stuff found in nail polish remover and rat poison... =.=
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post Mar 26 2013, 11:30 AM
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I really don't like smokers for many reasons.1. standing next to them makes my nose quiver from the smoke they blow out,2. smoking will rot your teeth and cause lung cancer,3. it makes the smoker's body smell, 4. it makes you lose your appetite if you smoke, 5. it will also make you addicted to it because of the drugs and poisons in it, and 6. if you are smoking, try to quit. it's bad for your health and for others near you.
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post Apr 2 2013, 03:54 PM
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I for one think smoking is disgusting, but there's no restriction on how people live. They can choose whether to smoke or not.
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Smoke as much as you want as long as you don't do it all over my face.


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post Apr 8 2013, 09:49 AM
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I think of it like this. If they want to die from cancer then let them smoke all the cancer sticks and waste all they money they want.
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