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Posted by: Jeffrey Aug 18 2008, 05:53 PM

Let's get real, folks. When he's not siccing Pikachu on Blaine's Rhydon or casually admitting that his Pidgeotto doesn't stand a chance against Erika's grass-types (namely her stupid Gloom), he's making his poor Heracross use nothing but normal attacks against a Scizor when a well-placed fighting-attack would have dropped it in one fell swoop...which really does beg a question:

Is Ash stupid, or does he genuinely want to put his Pokemon through as much agony as possible when he sets them up against impossible odds? (Pikachu@Onix...Oh, hell no)

It seems to me that he only wins his battles through sheer luck, or what must certainly be the high level of his Pokemon. He wins because his Pikachu's thunderbolt seems to be miracle multi-elemental attack that can drop Ground-types instantly - except for a few occasions, in which case he'll "use Rhydon's horn as a lightning rod", defeating it instantly. Um, if it's been established that Rhydon is immune to electric attacks, why does it matter how conductive his horn is?!

Ash's utter disregard for type advantage and his complete lack of battle sense (using a fighting type pokemon on a pokemon that is weak to fighting-type movies, but using normal ones) leads me to believe that Ash has won every one of his matches due to miraculous flukes of fate.

Ash Ketchum is a horrible Pokemon trainer. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: the quiet quilava Aug 18 2008, 05:58 PM

there isnt any wrong claiming here. i havent watched the anime since johto, and i tought he was a shithaxxed lucked out trainer with a shiny noctowl.

Posted by: The Darkrai Aug 18 2008, 07:55 PM

I cant dissagree. plus i love how he beats everybody after they got stronger.

Posted by: Starcoffin Aug 19 2008, 12:13 AM

Agreed. Who sends a Pikachu against a Bellsprout (The first pokemon league)??? Seriously! Although his Heracross was just badass (even if it loved sucking bulbasaur) and he lucked out with his mini/shiny noctowl.

Also, if he has so many tauros, WHY THE FLYING PHUCK DOESN'T HE USE ONE OF THEM MORE OFTEN???? IT KNOWS A OHKO MOVE FOR GOD SAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: the quiet quilava Aug 19 2008, 12:22 AM

i completely forgot about those tauros, i would bring them all with me... massive OHKOS FOR EVERYONE!

Posted by: Starcoffin Aug 19 2008, 12:30 AM

*Breaks into song* "It's family fissure time, it's family fissure time!" Sometimes I would like my family to fall into a fissure, lol

"FISSURE AGAIN...... DANG IT WHY WONT YOU DIE?!?!?!?" ~Ash
"Because you are using a ground move on my PIDGEY you flipping TARD!" ~ Max

((Sorry, had to make an Ash-Bash joke))

Posted by: Missy Artichoke Aug 19 2008, 12:31 AM

I have to agree. Ash is not the best trainer, in fact he is pretty bad, but at least he loves his Pokémon. And, seriously, that Pikachu must be Lv. 100 by now, maybe that's the secret to its magic.

Posted by: Starcoffin Aug 19 2008, 12:38 AM

Ash's pikachu has gone thought 4 other regions (Kanto, Jhoto, Orange Islands, and Hoenn) and when he enters Sinnoh, his pikachu can't defeat a bloody STARLY! A flying bird pokemon VERSUS an ELECTRIC pokemon.....At that point i gave us 100% on the anime (not to mention his voice now sucks)

Posted by: the quiet quilava Aug 19 2008, 12:38 AM

the proof is in the pudding.

Posted by: Tiamat Aug 20 2008, 01:17 AM

Ash sweats Gamesharks and Rare Candies. It's the only explaination.

Posted by: empoleon dynamite Aug 20 2008, 11:33 AM

I'm getting sick of all these anti-ash threads. If he was unbeatable the Anime would be boring!

Posted by: Swordsalmon Aug 20 2008, 01:39 PM

Also, one of Rhydon's abilities is Lightning Rod. XD

He's pretty terrible of a trainer. Overuses that Pikachu and whatever Grass starter he has. Why do people like cheering for Ash?

Posted by: Jeffrey Aug 20 2008, 06:30 PM

That's the problem - he is unbeatable. The fact that no one knows how the Hell he keeps raking in the victories with his wretched battle style. The simple fact is, he wins 99.9% of battles when we all know that he should have been pulverized. I simply can't suspend my disbelief in his case.

Posted by: masrelga Aug 20 2008, 06:45 PM

i cant deny that he does stupid things but

if that were true he wouldve won the pokemon leagues in all regions and he wouldve never lost a gym battle
its an anime its not the same as the game type advantage isnt that big and stop hating because you dont have a shiny noctowl lucky git

Posted by: Jeffrey Aug 21 2008, 06:19 PM

Okay, 99.9% is exagerrated, but I think you get my points. He wins far too many battles that he shouldn't, and I think that bugs alot of people - myself included.

I'd take my normal-ass Garchomp over his shiny Noctowl any day.

Posted by: Tiamat Aug 22 2008, 04:53 AM

I like my dear Shimmer (Shiny Pelliper) and shiny Gastly more than his shiny Noctowl. :/ I WAS NOT ENVIOUS AT ALL WHEN I SAW HE HAD IT.

Hell, I'd rather have a Modest Female Feebas, and we all know what a pain to find that is.

Posted by: Crystal Phoenix Oct 12 2008, 08:28 PM

He gets rid of all his good pokemon! In Kanto for example, he says to his Butterfree and Pigeot, "Bye! I'll see you again!" or something along those lines and guess what? He never sees them again. NEVER. And in one of the rounds in the Pokemon League in Kanto, he encounters grass types. Doesn't he end up losing that match? If he did, well no shit sherlock, he got rid of his damn Pigeot!

Whoops didn't pay attention to the dates.

Posted by: Moist Oct 12 2008, 10:15 PM

once upon an episode in the first season, a shithaxxed trainer, his perverted butt buddy, and his flat chested whore came across a trainer who was undefeated. the trainer battled this man with his pikachu, while the man battle with a sandshrew. "I CAN WIN YEAH! WOOOO" the trainer said with his upbeat, can-do attitude that makes you want to smother him with an igglybuff, and the trainer lost. "OH NOEZ I LOST HAO I HAS PIKACHU" the boy said. he challenged the man to another battle, and won somehow, by the hand of god (you know, the hand of god from the metal gear awesome flash by egoraptor.. OH GOD THERES BLOOD EVERYWERE OHGOD) and the pikachu triumphed over the ground type sandshrew. they all learned a lesson, the shithaxxd trainer learned that everyone HAS to be envious of him, getting a lvl 99 pikachu as his starter, the pervert learned that the shithaxxed trainer was looser than he was yesterday.... hmmm... that dirty cheating bastard. the flat chested whore learned that if she wants attention from the shithaxxed trainer, she needs to grow a penis.


the end.

Posted by: dhofer99 Oct 12 2008, 11:59 PM

ash is not the greastest trainer but also not the worst eather in my opion

Posted by: johnrichard1991 Oct 13 2008, 06:38 PM

You're right. Ash is a bad pokemon trainer.
But, his good luck does proves him to be a good trainer.

Posted by: ShivasDisciple Oct 13 2008, 06:48 PM

Well yes Ash is an absolutely horrible trainer but lets not forget about Misty!!! She would send her Goldeen on dry land!! DRY LAND!!!! She isn't very intellegent either....

Posted by: Aero Oct 14 2008, 12:16 AM

I agree he is the worst.. His infinite luck is sooo annoying xD

Posted by: RedGardevoir Oct 14 2008, 05:51 PM

he's an ok trainer he raises his pokemon right but, i think his character is overly peppy and over-used now, he also is abit overly lucky don't you think? it's pretty lame....

Posted by: Smythy Oct 19 2008, 06:26 AM

Please, dont ever remind me of the first ever gym battle. Please!

He is a bad trainer, but he HAS seen every single legendary so far! That would be something to brag about!

Posted by: Living Arrow Oct 23 2008, 12:36 PM

"Is Ash the worst trainer to ever battle Pokemon?"

Short answer - no. The title of "worst ever" surely goes to the pair from Kanto with the Bulbasaur and Charmander who were so crap that they gave up. And don't forget TR - they lost to a Caterpie for god's sake and to another of Ash's Pokemon every week.
He got invited to become a Frontier Brain... surely that means he's actually pretty damn good? And he won the Orange League...
Although it is fun to Ash-bash 'til the Miltank come home, it's pretty pointless. The target audience for the anime is at such a young age that all this battling stuff really means nothing to them but pretty pictures and flashing colours.

Posted by: Dhofer99 the rock master Oct 24 2008, 12:21 PM

i aggree 100 and 10 % with you

Posted by: Flamer Nov 1 2008, 12:13 PM

If he was a trainer in the games, I agree he'd be awefull, but he's in the anime and the whole point of that is to entertain, primarily, little kids. So it doesn't really matter if he uses a Pikachu against a Onix as long as it makes for a good show. Then again, whether it is a good show or not, even for it's target audience is debatable, but ranting on about the anime will take me too far off topic so I'm not even going to start.

Posted by: keweli Nov 6 2008, 05:38 AM

OK, when it comes to pokemon battles... he is a master,
but when it comes to girls, he needs to learn from Brock.

I mean WTF is wrong with Ash? Misty clearly informed Ash she liked him in one of the episodes...
and then they never see each other again.

Alright if he really didn't like Misty, whey can't he choose one of the many girls.

Posted by: domantas97 Apr 22 2009, 01:34 PM

NO

Posted by: CrystalSteelix Apr 24 2009, 11:21 PM

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Posted by: Andris Apr 26 2009, 09:44 AM

I think sometimes Ash is really care less whit his Pokémons especially whit his Jhoto Pokémons (which are he still have)., he cared whit Phumphy only because Phumphy ran afther him at the begin of his journey to the Battle Frontier.

Second thing: He left his Pidgeot to protect the other Pidgeys and Pidgeots, but he promised to Pidgeot to pick it up later, it was befor his Jhoto journey. When will he pick Pidgeot up?

Posted by: WilliamP Apr 27 2009, 04:16 AM

It dosen't matter if it's an anime, the manga (Pokemon Special / Pokemon Adventures) follows the game's attributes perfectly.


He dosen't really mean HE'S good, it could mean the Pokemon were good, or actually had brains. "

Posted by: Atramentua Apr 27 2009, 10:32 AM

I'm not very fond of Ash as a character, admittedly. He's grated on my nerves ever since I was a kid.

I do love the Ash from the manga, though. He is generally more likable.

Posted by: Proffesor Yakura May 9 2009, 06:56 PM

I actually, disagree. In fact is, in the Johto region he was a hyper overconfident boy, who thought he could take on the world. In Johto most of the times he got himself put in his place that it is not true. He wasnt thinking. I truely hate to see his pokemon leave. But are you taking this a little to serious, actually it is not cool to let his pokemon leave, but for the little kids, its kind of teaching them that its hard to say goodbye and not everything can stay that way. When he sends in his Pikachu to fight the Bellsprout, not smart thinking but i dont care. Why? Cause he still laggs on experience. But, he has good fate in his Pokemon and they are all very close. I see in alot of Anime that the power of Teamwork and Friendship is the strongest power. And thats why they win. And personally i like that they keep Ash in it. Better then people who can brag about his/her knowledge of Pokemon, sure it would be great. But Ash is 10 years old when he started, kids from that age watch Pokemon. When i had that age, i would dream of being Ash or anyone else in the Pokemon world, and having friends to travel with and have great adventures. So let them dream. You could notice if you really werent always keep looking for the negative sides of Ash or Pokemon, that he gets more Experience in Pokemon, every region. He helped May when she was a beginner and that same counts for Dawn. I really think you could keep bragging how bad Ash or the Anime atm is, but this isnt get you any further. If you try to mess up Pokemon included Ash. Then your stealing smiles from LOTS of childeren. I dont got any problem with the topic, but what is the point? Look deeper, look to the positive sides. I think if you really are trying to do something about Ash being the person in Pokemon, then your Selfish. If you are 14+ and discuss about how much you dislike Ash. Then i got to dissappoint you, Ash is drawn to do that and you can watch Pokemon or not. Actually i think Pokemon is for -12 kids. But you see even older kids enjoy it. Even i still enjoy it. I just wanted to make a point.

@Keweli: 1. They do see each other again and you never know. Maybe after hes done with his journey he returns to Pallet and dates Misty, but that is clearly not the point. If Pokemon was about love, they would make a soap where Ash had to choose Dawn, May and Misty. Clearly i prefer May. Dont take this as a offense but first time i saw Misty, i thought she was a boy. So maybe if she dressed up more as a girl, then Ash maybe notice her much as a Date. But i see that Ash isnt even thinking about love but more about Pokemon.

- Done -

Posted by: Vicky Chai Tea May 9 2009, 07:18 PM

Aw, come on. Ash is my favorite!

Posted by: HaganeGir May 9 2009, 09:04 PM

Two things about Ash greatly annoy me. The first is that he has a tendency to release all of his Pokemon. I haven't watched much of anything past the Johto episodes, so I don't know if he stopped doing it, but it got really annoying. I know he did it for their sake and so that, say, Lapras could be with its family, but every awesome Pokemon he got would disappear not long after. The show features the phrase 'Gotta catch 'em all!' but the main character was almost giving away his Pokemon. Yet he keeps the thirty or so Tauros so they can terrorise Professor Oak. It was always something that bugged me.

The other thing applies to all of the main characters, really, who never seem to recognise Team Rocket despite their flimsy disguises. They could strut past in full Team Rocket uniforms, wearing fake mustaches and Ash still wouldn't recognise them. It does make Team Rocket awesome, though. :p

I wouldn't say Ash is the worst trainer, but he definitely has some strange nuances.

Posted by: Proffesor Yakura May 10 2009, 03:43 AM

And this all leads to: Childeren, Ash releases the pokemon cause he was drawn to do that and probally so the kids can learn about goodbye's and that not everything stays the same. I know Team Rocket is easy to spot in a disguise, but would it not be so stupid that he identify team rocket everytime? Whats the point, besides Team rocket are funny but not strong, so if i were Ash i wouldnt even payed attention to those losers. It is not the "Who is this person" show. And not "Ash you moron why are letting your pokemon go" show. Maybe if your old enough, you'll accept that saying goodbye has to be done sometimes.

Posted by: Suschan May 10 2009, 04:05 AM

Actualy the factor of not recognising is normal...Ash isn't looking for Team Rocket so why should he care for things lurking around, this might be a Anime directing saying that "you should look around".
I've walked pass celebrities for who knows how many times and I didn't care, but it is really easy to say when you stare at a screen of a tv.

And the factor that Ash isn't the perfect trainer. But remember, Ash has his own goals and style. Factor take part is that he lives in a different world, where pokemon aren't just pixels on a gameconsole screen...they are similar to pets, and I bet if the Anime was horribly realistic keeping pokemon would cost, seeing as pokemon need to feed.

And in Brocks battle in season one...he was...umm like a beginner? (poor excuse I know but seriosly) I beated Brock in the game with my starter!! (Actualy when I was younger and didn't understand the game (red/blue) fully, I beated the whole game with a Blastoise with only catching the pokemon needed for HM's!!!)

Maybe he undestands the Pokemon in his own way, I mean he released butterfree because it wanted to be with a mate, Haunter stayed with the gym leader, Charizard is Ash's but likes to stay with the others of his kind.
Pidgeot wanted to protect the forest. I mean Jessy and James released their Weezing and Arbok for what? Because they wanted to protect the little Ekans and Coffings around the forest.
Another learning thing here for kids learning to "let go" of things

The factor of Ash losing and he gets back up is learning of the "never give up" and that he wins by a miracle that isn't even possible is like saying "Anything is possible if you try".
A friend of mine has an unbeatible due of Plusle and Minus, so everything if you put your effort into it might work.

Ash isn't working on a game setup, the battles aren't like a choosing of from a set of moves. The pokemon can dodge, jump, duck, growl, freaking flick sand for no points! Meaning pikachu's thunderbolt can go on as long as the pokemon has the strenght for it and not in a number based system.

So is Ash a horrible trainer, in the game he would suck. But in the world he lives in, he is pretty good!

(And now I'll wait when I get millions of flames that I will get for even saying ANYTHING, oh and pardon my typos)

Posted by: Auragirl May 10 2009, 04:23 AM

I don't think Ash has what it takes to be a pokemon master. He has no logic when it comes to battling. Aim for the horn for the fail, and what the **** was with that whole "use thunder as armor" thing?! He talks about how you should respect pokemon, then dumps the poor things in Oaks lab. And how does he keep falling for team rocket's duisguises? Plus after so many Sagas, i'm plain sick of him.

Posted by: Celadon May 10 2009, 04:45 AM

Ash is truly the worst trainer to ever arrive in this world.
He does not know anything about type disadvantages. ANYTHING.
Proof? In the first season, he battles his Pikachu against Brock's Onix, the Sandshrew boy's Sandshrew, Blaine's Rhydon and a Marowak right before the Pokemon league. More surprisingly, he actually won.

Also, he keeps releasing his pokemon just because someone asked (Primeape) or because he is stupid enough to think that it will do good for others.

Other than that, he orders his pokemon to do things which even the most open minded people will deem to be impossible. Like in the Hoenn season's 7th gym battle, he orders his Pikachu to form a "electricity shield" around itself and Swellow. What is more, Swellow did not faint after that.

Lastly, he keeps his best pokemon like Charizard, Kingler and Tauros elsewhere, and keeps totally the stupid and horrible and useless pokemon : Torkoal and Pikachu in his party. Really, what IQ does that kid have? (should be less than -10000)
EDIT: By useless, I don't mean that Pikachu is bad at battles. Torkoal is a different story .

In other words, he deserves to have his pokedex smashed into pieces, and all his pokemon should be liberated from his totally stupid and agonising control.

Posted by: Celestine May 10 2009, 05:19 AM

I agree with Celadon. Ash really "loves" his pokemon, yeah, but hey, if he did, he would take the time to LEARN something about them, so he wouldn't have them wounded in pkmn battles. Plus, he's a hyperactive little jerk who can't lose. Really.. but hey, if he wasn't such a pathetic loser, who would watch the anime...

Posted by: Proffesor Yakura May 10 2009, 07:34 AM

Posted by: Celadon May 10 2009, 07:55 AM

@ Professor Yakura:I am a fan of pokemon ever since I was 10. I liked Ash back then. Now I don't.

I know he is drawn to do what he does. But still, I don't think that all kids want to see some fool giving up all of his pokemon, and having zero knowledge about his field.

Moreover, there is no reason to call us knuckleheads or selfish or morons. Everyone has a right to give their own opinion for different things.

Posted by: Suschan May 10 2009, 08:24 AM

This is actualy a double edged sword in the show, should Ash be a selfish little brat and deny his Pokemons feelings or be a good boy?
Basicly he would quite similar to Paul as a horrible brat if he was selfish to the max (Who is a more worse trainer to me but he's going to learn anyway somehow how to be a better trainer)

And it hasn't been claimed that Ash would know zero-zip nothing of the battle tactics. Maybe he just likes to play it rough. Maybe he trust his pokemons so much that he is ready to go to a line between thick and thin, but it doesn't mean he is an idiot and he learns by each battle, but he doesn't want to change his team!

Oh and 4KIDS makes Ash as hyper...he is much different in the Japanese orginal.

And anybody who thinks evolution makes a Pokemon better is umm...quite silly, the same pokemon can learn the same tricks or moves. It isn't bigger that makes it better. (Bulbasaur didn't want to evolve as same as Pikachu and they are quite good)

And there isn't something called a useless Pokemon...every pokemon is different, in moves, shapes and the way it fights, becuase the pokemons size and so on makes a use in battle.

And I happened to like Torkoal or Corphish. And may I ask how is Torkoal even a horrible pokemon? Maybe in the game...but you don't see everybody owning a Lapras, an Steelix or a freaking Charizard.
It must be hard to raise one in an anime world, most of the trainers Ash challenges are two times older (not counting Brock or Misty for now) than him. Meaning they have trained their Pokemons a bit longer.

And another great notice would be that Ash wants to be a Pokemon Master, doesn't mean he will be a master in the whole series.

I didn't want to write in this thread anymore to honest...

Posted by: Celadon May 10 2009, 08:55 AM

I never said that, so I am exempted form replying.



I should have phrased that differently. I called Pikachu useless, because I was just tired of seeing it everytime. I mean, OK it is his starter and all, but still...
I repeat: I never meant that Pikachu is useless in batlle.


I don't like Ash's Torkoal because the only good move it knows is Flamethrower (Overheat having a self-destructive effect). Harden/Withdraw is really quite a bit exaggerated in the Anime. I mean, if Torkoal is weak to water type attacks, then how would withdrawing into the shell help?

Posted by: Iulius Caesar May 10 2009, 09:04 AM

A-HEM. That's enough flaming for one day, thank you. I suggest you re-read the rules and not flame fellow members any more.

Posted by: Suschan May 10 2009, 09:17 AM

@Celadon

Yes you make good points. Really good points.

Oh and the pikachu and so on, note was that I understood it wrong but you just cleared it so I can understand the take now.

I believe the writes are trying to use a plothole or common sense in the Torkoal thing...I mean well in the game withdraw just rases defense but Torkoal is a real tortose so retreating into the shell might lower the damage. Not saying that it shouldn't do damage, it should do...but we can blame the writes at this point....for making a plothole.

(excuse for taking some time to reply, my internet connection is having a great arguiment with me)

Posted by: Proffesor Yakura May 10 2009, 12:28 PM

Sorry for my words, i just figured out that i needed to make a presentation for tuesday and my computer acted weird so i could not make it, so i was really pissed off. Well, i answer couple hours later cause i had enough and went straight to the bar :p.

Posted by: HaganeGir May 11 2009, 12:19 AM

Okay, Ash releasing Pokemon is a lesson about saying goodbye. I can understand that. Perhaps if they'd done that once or twice it would be understandable, but he's certainly said farewell to a few Pokemon. When I used to watch the show, I always found that odd.



Perhaps I should have phrased that better. I didn't mean that he should be on the lookout for them all the time, but that he should be able to recognise them when they approach him, especially in weaker disguises when they walk up and ask if they can take a photo of Pikachu in that totally non-suspicious photobooth nearby. I suppose it doesn't matter though, because it's a children show and what bugs me as a teenager more than likely doesn't bother children.

Posted by: hihibash93 May 12 2009, 12:09 PM

Ash has good relationships with his pokemon, but he sucks battlewise.

Think about what would happen if he were to VS. one of us. XD
The only way he'd do any damage is if he taught his Pokemon return.

Posted by: minteadrops May 14 2009, 01:31 PM

I can win battles using wrong types all the time. It is about having a higher level pokemon then your opponent sometimes as well.

I rarely ever lose in my games and I find it perfectly normal.

Posted by: Syreon May 15 2009, 03:56 AM

I think the reason Ash ends up leaving all of his Pokémon at Oak's lab is because the producers must have realized that, due to how long the show has been running, kids who watch the D/P series these days (from what, ages 8-14?) aren't going to have a clue what's going on with, say, his Kanto Pokémon from 9-10 years ago. There would be way too much backstory mixed in with team dynamics and such, though we luckily don't really have a lot of that with Ash, Brock, and Pikachu, who've been there from the beginning. That's just my guess.

Strategically, I agree that he's a terrible trainer. But that's thinking of it way too technically--in the games, we don't have things like a certain type of battle field to work with (aside from the weather-changing moves). It's all straight facts and calculations, whereas the anime is always pushing for determination, hard work, and friendship being able to achieve anything.

Honestly, if I was a real trainer on a field, I wouldn't look at my Pokémon and see them by their types and techniques and stats; I'd see them for who they were and what their individual strengths could handle. So I can understand why Ash doesn't always go for what's logically sound and instead go for whatever feels right at the moment. And in that respect, he's a unique and awesome trainer who cares about his Pokémon for their personal growth rather than their type advantages. (Arguably, that method could actually be seen as quite cowardly and taking the easy way out. It might make for a quick win, but I don't get any satisfaction at all from just tossing a Thunderbolt at a Wingull or what-have-you.)

Just my two cents!

Posted by: Sarahsuke May 18 2009, 04:24 AM

Don't forget that it'd be dull to have the same team for so long - viewers look forward to seeing the new Pokémon in the anime whenever a new game is released.

Posted by: ArticOne Jun 16 2009, 03:14 AM

I agree with you 110% very well put.

Posted by: dotPHUNK Jun 16 2009, 03:26 AM

I have always wondered why his Pikachu isn't like God Mode. Though, I guess the thought of "leveling" isn't present in the Anime. Though, I do know that in the Manga it is present.

Yeah, Red is better than Ash. ;[

Posted by: Odin Jun 16 2009, 07:25 PM

You make some great points there!

Posted by: Marcster1994 Jun 17 2009, 08:05 PM

Dude, he lost the first Pokemon League to the same types pokemon he also owned and STILL lost

I guess his sheer luck finally said back to him: "You suck."

Posted by: jeterboy95 Jun 23 2009, 09:29 AM

I had a really random thought last night. Ash has been through, what, 4 leagues, and his Pikachu never seems to level up. In a few gym battles, he loses even though he's been through dozens others that were probably stronger. By now his pikachu should be winning so many battles but yet, he's still has trouble with team rocket sometimes. This really confuses me.

Posted by: Glaedr Jun 23 2009, 09:56 AM

I completely disagree with you. Ash is actually pretty clever, for he has incorporated a common battling technique among Wi-Fi battling. I'm not sure if you have notcied but Ash's pokemon all have high speed and attack power (except for Grotle.)

Posted by: Mr PBJ Jul 4 2009, 12:53 PM

That's why he isn't unbeatable. The Anime sucks.

Posted by: VickyDragon Jul 15 2009, 08:37 AM

no argument here, seriously, that Pikachu is probably maxed out and it still loses battles and thats annoying. another thing that annoys me is the fact that some how he beats people like Blaine with Pikachu against Rhydon, Blaine said it himself that electric doesnt work on ground types and all of the sudden Ash gets Pikachu to attack the horn because its a lightning rod. i do admire the fact that Ash loves his pokemon very much but the least he could do in battle is actually make sense and maybe even mentions the pokemon that left, its like they never existed now