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Mar 23 2009, 07:31 PM
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Blaze of Gory Group: +Donors Posts: 798 Joined: 21-July 08 From: You tell me. Member No.: 2 412 Original Squad |
Latias/os both have genders, so why cant they breed with each other. Same species, diff gender, and yet compatibility = :fail:
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Mar 26 2009, 06:08 PM
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The green dragon of the skies. Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 3-June 08 From: Here. Member No.: 2 027 tey r huge! |
Latias/os both have genders, so why cant they breed with each other. Same species, diff gender, and yet compatibility = :fail: latios+latias= what would the baby look like? a latios/latias monster?= bad but maybe it's just better there's no genders for some of them Like a female mewtwo, just think of all the fanart that would be on the web. I dont think nintendo wants that... This post has been edited by Rayquaza: Mar 26 2009, 06:08 PM -------------------- |
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Mar 30 2009, 10:56 PM
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Tastes like AGONY Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 26-April 08 From: My house Member No.: 1 777 Platinum Team |
Uh eh Heatran has a 50% chance of being either gender o3o
And the whole Lati@s not being able to breed with each other is probably because they're supposed to be a brother/sister pair. And Nintendo probably doesn't want to promote inbreeding :P -------------------- |
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Apr 1 2009, 09:00 PM
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Gym Leader Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 29-March 09 From: On the rock, waiting for Ahab Member No.: 6 486 Active Squad |
In the games, it's never stated that they're siblings. That's purely anime.
I think that the 'natural' legendaries (the birds, the beasts, the titans, etc) would have genders, and the purely man-made legends (regis) do not, but the human-manipulated legend (mewtwo) might. Deoxys probably would not have a gender, as it is a mutated virus, and viruses don't have genders. -------------------- |
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Apr 8 2009, 05:45 PM
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Gym Leader Group: Posts: 173 Joined: 2-April 09 Member No.: 7 586 YES |
Mewtwo has to be male. o__o;;
In the movie he had a male voice I JUST CANT IMAGINE HIM/IT/WHATEVER/???? AS A GIRL This post has been edited by deer: Apr 8 2009, 05:46 PM -------------------- |
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Apr 11 2009, 01:25 AM
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I am the ultimate thunder demon Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 9-April 09 From: Right Behind you! Member No.: 9 718 -Fuzzball's Team- |
I don't care if they're genderless or not, I always give my legendaries genders. I usually go with the sterotypical guess (Mew being girl, Entei being boy). However, I am firm when I say that Rayquaza should be a girl. I mainly say that because on most virtual pet sites my username is Rayquaza and I'm female myself. XD
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Apr 11 2009, 04:39 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 22-November 08 Member No.: 3 215 Favorite Pokemon |
If the Pokemon in question are 'God-like', I suppose it would be entirely possible to assume they are higher beings that conjured up physical bodies to interact with this world. Since that likely isn't the case, I think we can assume that 'Legendary Pokemon' are little more than extremely rare Pokemon that humans still know little about, that may have been common at one point in the Pokemon World's history.
After all, as they are all more or less animals (save for the Regis) I'm under the impression that they all have some type or form of gender as they must have had to bred at one point in time to do what all animals have to do. Their lack of a gender at this point in time could be explained as no need of having one (perhaps as a result of a natural 'fixing' due to lack of numbers in modern day). For those that have genders, like Heatran and Lati@s, its possible these Pokemon still are capable of breeding, just not in the traditional way that we've seen. That said, I could easily see any Pokemon being any gender. (That is, except for those that only have one gender...) Jynx would be an example of a Pokemon with only one gender. Mr. Mime on the other hand, is an English-invented name. Barrier'd provides nothing to point it in being as any one specific gender. |
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Apr 11 2009, 04:47 PM
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Gym Leader Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 4-August 08 Member No.: 2 546 Old Gen 4 Team |
... I change my opinion.
Genderless Pokémon are meant to be genderless. ... Like SR... -------------------- |
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Apr 11 2009, 11:54 PM
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everything is happening so much Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: 9-July 07 Member No.: 70 Active Squad |
Flamer: Actually, in R/G/B/Y and FR/LG, the journals say that Mew gave birth to Mewtwo. It's still technically cloning, because that's basically what parthogenesis is--cloning inside the female's body. This therefore implied that Mewtwo is female from her genetics or neuter from the experiments when she was young. And given that I don't think the people writing the Pokedex entries had anything more then DNA to go on, they probably just thought that Mewtwo was a superclone rather then Mew's daughter.
Although whoever made the note about the legendary gerbils has a good point. I will give you e-cookies and milk for that. -------------------- |
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Apr 12 2009, 09:04 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Posts: 27 Joined: 12-April 09 From: Home, being bored to death. Member No.: 10 554 Active Squad |
This is what I think
Mew: girl Mew2: boy Moltres: Girl (It is based on a phoenex, the chinese symbol for female) Zapdos: Boy Articuno: Girl Lugia: Boy Ho-Oh: Girl (see moltres) Raikou: Boy Entei: Boy Suicune: Boy Celebi: Girl Kyogre: Boy Groudon: Boy Rayquaza: Girl All Regis: Boy Jirachi: Girl Latias and Latios well, we don't need to say any more. Deoxys: Boy (speed form looks slightly feminen) Uxie: Nothing (If anything, girl) Mesprit: Girl Azelf: Boy Dialga: Boy Palkia: Boy Giratina: Girl Darkrai: Boy Manaphy: Girl Phione: Boy Rotom: Girl Shaymin: Girl Arceus: Nothing (If anything, boy) Please note I am a girl |
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Apr 13 2009, 05:59 PM
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housewife extraordinaire! Group: Members Posts: 286 Joined: 2-April 09 From: NY Member No.: 7 542 Team HG |
Even though legendaries don't have genders in the game, many of them were given genders when they appeared in the movies/anime, so I go with those genders and invent my own.
For example, Lugia and Mewtwo are OBVIOUSLY male. I think Articuno and Moltres look girly, so I think they're female, while Zapdos is a male. Mew is probably female. ect. I think it would be a lot more awesome if legendaries could have genders in the games, though, because it IS possible to get more than one of each. |
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Apr 14 2009, 09:19 AM
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Sliding Scale of Idealism vs. Cynicism Group: +Donors Posts: 577 Joined: 29-March 09 From: New York Member No.: 6 512 Active Squad |
I go with genders based off of my own feelings about it. Certain Pokemon, it's kind of obvious that they're one gender or another, with others, not so much.
It's all a matter of personal preference, really. -------------------- |
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Apr 14 2009, 10:24 AM
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Team Rogue: Houndoom Group: Members Posts: 2 186 Joined: 8-January 08 From: Austin, Texas Member No.: 804 Uprising Mod |
Well, I hate to say it, but if Mew is a female, and Mewtwo is a CLONE of the female, then Mewtwo must be a female. There would be no Y chromosome to make him male. Of course, s/he/it is an experiment, so if they mixed mew's DNA with, say, an Abra, that could provide the chromosome...
Latias and Latios, could they breed, would probably breed like Nidorans do. Females would be one, males the other. I always saw the birds/dogs are super-evolved forms of already existing pokémon. Entei, for example, a super-evolved Arcanine, and Raikou a super-evolved Manetric. Suicune... I don't know. Possibly a Vaporeon (then again, they could all be super-eevees...) The birds are simply Fearow with elemental powers, except for Articuno, which is a super-cold Delibird... Therefore, unless things dropped off, then they SHOULD have genders. And doesn't Entei's pokedex entry say one is born whenever a volcano erupts? I believe they don't have genders in game because they can't be bred in game, and only the later versions could be coded to prevent gendered pokémon from breeding. I also believe that they can't be bred in game because no trainer has the ability to make them breed in captivity. I think, outside of captivity, a little whine, some soft jazz... We'd have baby legendaries out the wazoo. The Gen IV legendaries are guardians of forces (time, space, the netherworld, etc) and therefore non-gendered. Cresselia is a lower-guardian and probably assigned a gender through her legend. This post has been edited by Jaima: Apr 14 2009, 11:29 AM -------------------- |
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Apr 16 2009, 06:15 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 16-April 09 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 12 003 Active Squad |
The most logical reason that legendaries were programed to not have a gender in the games is simply because of breeding purposes. Legendaries are meant to be special, rare, hard to obtain. To achieve that, the creators removed the gender aspect from them so people couldn't mass them, and therefore "dequalifying" them, in a sense. This is speaking legitly however, since we all know that there are tons of legendaries out there anyways due to hacks.
It's safe to say that most legendaries, if not all, DO have a gender, as this was proven multiple times in the anime.... it's just that the gender is hidden in the games for breeding, most likely. When playing the games, it's best to simply imagine your legend pokemon as any gender you wish them to be and pretend that their "genderless" status is simply a hidden value, a secret. I would like to think that a better method the creators could have used, instead of confusing everyone by labeling legendaries as genderless to solve their breeding problem... they should have given them percentage gender values like almost all other pokemon, but use a hidden code to still prevent them from breeding (much like the hidden codes preventing them from battling, duh), OR even allow them to breed but with much stricter conditions/requirements, so it's much more difficult to get babies, therefore backing up the fact that the pokemon is still rare, but for a reason. That was just my ideology behind the whole gender issue... -------------------- |
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Apr 21 2009, 08:00 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 5-April 09 Member No.: 8 477 / |
Here are the official gender ratios for the legendary pokemon.
Legendary Birds Articuno is a Genderless species. Zapdos is a Genderless species. Moltres is a Genderless species. Mew and Mewtwo Mew is a Genderless species. Mewtwo is a Genderless species. (Mewtwo is genderless, but it looks somewhat masculine. In the movies, it also has a male telepathic voice. In the movie Mewtwo Returns, Giovani says "that's a good boy" when speaking to Mewtwo after he agrees to submit to Giovani in exchange for the safety of the other clone pokemon. ) Legendary Beasts Raikou is a Genderless species. Entei is a Genderless species. (Entei is genderless, though it resembles a male lion.) Suicune is a Genderless species. Lugia and Ho-Oh Ho-Oh is a Genderless species. Lugia is a Genderless species. Legendary Golems Regirock is a Genderless species. Regice is a Genderless species. Registeel is a Genderless species. The Ancients Kyogre is a Genderless species. Groudon is a Genderless species. Rayquaza is a Genderless species. Latios and Latias Latias is a Female-only species. Latios is a Male-only species. Legendary Mirage Pokemon Uxie is a Genderless species. (Despite being genderless in the main series games, Uxie is referred to as a male in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.) Mesprit is a Genderless species. (Mesprit is genderless, although it is referred to as a female in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.) Azelf is a Genderless species. (Azelf is genderless, although it is referred to as a male in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.) Legendary Dragons Dialga is a Genderless species. (Despite being genderless in the main series games, Dialga is referred to as a male in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.) Palkia is a Genderless species. (Although Palkia is genderless in the main games, it is referred to as a male in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2.) Giratina is a Genderless species. Legendary Lunar Pokemon Darkrai is a Genderless species. (In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2, Darkrai is referred to as male, despite being genderless in the main series.) Cresseliais a Female-only species. The Other Legendaries Celebi is a Genderless species. (But, suring the main story of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2, the Shiny Celebi is referred to as a female, while it is genderless in the main series.) Jirachi is a Genderless species. Deoxys is a Genderless species. Manaphy is a Genderless species. (In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2, Manaphy is constantly referred to as a male.) Phione is a Genderless species. Regigigas is a genderless species. Heatran has a 50% male to 50% female gender ratio. Shaymin is a Genderless species. Arceus is a Genderless species. Other Rotom is a Genderless species. (When Rotom is encountered, the music is the same as legendary encounters although it is not classified as one. Rotom is, to date, the only non-legendary Pokémon to do this.) Arcanine has a 75% male to 25% female gender ratio. (Arcanine's species classification is Legendary.) Gyarados and Milotic both have a 50% male and 50% female gender ratio. (The fierceness and destructive nature of Gyarados is described in the Pokédex as a thing of legend as is the seemingly complementary beauty and calming ability of Milotic.) Unown is a Genderless species. (Professor Oak referred to them as Legendary. Also, like legendaries, they cannot breed. In the anime, they appear to live in the same dimension as Dialga and Palkia.) Lucario has a 87.5% male to 12.5% female gender ratio. (In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, a Lucario was regarded as a legendary Rescue Team Leader in the distant past, and "Lucario Rank" is the highest attainable team rank in the game. Also, in the opening of the Diamond and Pearl theme song, Lucario appears beside Dialga and Palkia.) Togepi has a 87.5% male to 12.5% female gender ratio. (In A Togepi Mirage! Togepi is referred to as a savior.) Spiritomb has a 50% male to 50% female gender ratio. -- So there you go. @___@ I really don't think legendaries should have a gender ratio. (Heatran, for example.) I think if a legendary is going to have a gender, it should be a female/male-only species. (Like Latias and Latios.) This post has been edited by Shortie: Apr 21 2009, 08:04 PM -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2009, 05:05 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Validating Posts: 17 Joined: 25-April 09 From: Region of All Season Member No.: 15 626 MSE Revoluter Team |
The only legendaries with genders are: Heatran-Male Cresselia-Female Latios-Male Latias-Female No more gendered legendaries unless they can breed is what I say. EXPLAIN... Manaphy -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2009, 05:14 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 2-April 09 From: South Korea Member No.: 7 640 Bathroom Janitors |
AHAHA, a bunch of little baby legendary Pokemon running around would be interesting to watch =D
they'll be like: OH YEAH? >=O WELL MY DAD SAYS I CAN DESTROY SINNOH BETTER THAN YOU! then everything would explode and everyone would die =D They should be genderless =o -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2009, 05:14 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 2-April 09 From: South Korea Member No.: 7 640 Bathroom Janitors |
AHAHA, a bunch of little baby legendary Pokemon running around would be interesting to watch =D
they'll be like: OH YEAH? >=O WELL MY DAD SAYS I CAN DESTROY SINNOH BETTER THAN YOU! then everything would explode and everyone would die =D They should be genderless =o -------------------- |
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Apr 26 2009, 05:15 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 2-April 09 From: South Korea Member No.: 7 640 Bathroom Janitors |
o.o Sorry for the double post LOL
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Apr 26 2009, 01:55 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 26-April 09 From: The Mother 3 World! Member No.: 16 279 Active Squad |
Though Palkia is referred to as a Male i can't stop thinking it's a girl.
The feet look SO much like High heels. -------------------- |
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