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Does Pornography exploit Women's bodies?, Please be mature in this
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post Mar 18 2009, 03:36 PM
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First of all, make sure all your replies are SERIOUS and MATURE. This is a serious discussion, this is an important issue.

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Ok, lets get to it. Does Pornography exploit Women's bodies?

I know I'm just talking about women, not men, that is because the majority of people working in the industry, are in fact women.

I believe that IT DOES NOT, Women as well as men have a choice weather or not to expose their bodies. Women who want to sign up for the industry, knowing full well that they are going to have to expose their bodies. Women KNOW that people are going to watch them.

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post Mar 18 2009, 03:47 PM
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It depends.
I've heard somewhere that the people from Girls Gone Wild get their girls drunk.
But I'm pretty sure that Playboy playmates are sober.

I'm guessing though that it doesn't, becase as you said, the women choose to do that. And even if they are drunk, or not, they still have some form of common sense left in them.


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post Mar 18 2009, 03:58 PM
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I think it depends on your perspective. I think its not exploiting the woman's bodies actually participating in the pornographic material, however I can see how a woman who is not in it may see how it might effect them (not that it does), and the way people view them.
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post Mar 18 2009, 05:29 PM
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Well, first off, the "exploitation" is the fault of the viewer. And if women don't want to be "exploited" they shouldn't be involved in the pornography anyway, because they're in it by their own choice unless it was forced. The ones that are forced are the ones being exploited in all reality.


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post Mar 19 2009, 04:35 PM
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I don't think it's so much of an exploitation... I think it's more of a negative imagery for people in a society. Then everyone wants to look the way that women are "supposed to look." In some cases that means women in pornographic materials.

Then again there's also the positive of pornography. The woman can feel like she accomplished something for a male/female who cannot find that image of a woman for their very own. The pornography is something they can have at all times, a real human woman may not be something they can have.
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Why just women? The type of pornography I normally look at involves a naked man.

I don't think it exploits a persons body. If they're okay with being naked on camera, then I'm sure they're okay with their bodies being edited to look sexier.

As long as they're okay with it, then it's all good :]

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QUOTE(LG Sings @ Mar 19 2009, 05:35 PM) *
I don't think it's so much of an exploitation... I think it's more of a negative imagery for people in a society. Then everyone wants to look the way that women are "supposed to look." In some cases that means women in pornographic materials.
That's not pornography's fault. That's the idiot who's watching it.


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post Mar 19 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(TyraniBoah @ Mar 18 2009, 04:36 PM) *
First of all, make sure all your replies are SERIOUS and MATURE. This is a serious discussion, this is an important issue.

This topic has been approved by Wymsy.

Ok, lets get to it. Does Pornography exploit Women's bodies?

I know I'm just talking about women, not men, that is because the majority of people working in the industry, are in fact women.

I believe that IT DOES NOT, Women as well as men have a choice weather or not to expose their bodies. Women who want to sign up for the industry, knowing full well that they are going to have to expose their bodies. Women KNOW that people are going to watch them.


I'd have to disagree. The Catholic Church teaches that it does, and I trust them. I really think that pornography is wrong and is just an easy way to get viruses on your PC.


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Well, everyone makes choices, and if you chose to take your clothes off in front of a camera then you chose to do it. So my answer's no.


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post Mar 19 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 19 2009, 05:52 PM) *
I'd have to disagree. The Catholic Church teaches that it does, and I trust them. I really think that pornography is wrong and is just an easy way to get viruses on your PC.
Pornography being wrong is your choice, okay. I don't think there's any harm in asking your reasoning, though.

For the viruses part, only a dumbass that's completely mindnumb in internet security would get viruses, or go to a website that would give them said virus. Of course, I haven't looked at pornography myself to know, but I've definitely looked up enough ROM sites to know that I can easily differentiate between what will and won't give me a virus.


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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 19 2009, 05:52 PM) *
QUOTE(TyraniBoah @ Mar 18 2009, 04:36 PM) *
First of all, make sure all your replies are SERIOUS and MATURE. This is a serious discussion, this is an important issue.

This topic has been approved by Wymsy.

Ok, lets get to it. Does Pornography exploit Women's bodies?

I know I'm just talking about women, not men, that is because the majority of people working in the industry, are in fact women.

I believe that IT DOES NOT, Women as well as men have a choice weather or not to expose their bodies. Women who want to sign up for the industry, knowing full well that they are going to have to expose their bodies. Women KNOW that people are going to watch them.


I'd have to disagree. The Catholic Church teaches that it does, and I trust them. I really think that pornography is wrong and is just an easy way to get viruses on your PC.


the church also teaches that same-sex marriage is immoral

To be honest, pornography doesn't exploit women (or men). The women (or men) exploit themselves because they decide to strip naked and do Act X with Person Y.

But if the site/person somewhat forces the person to do it, then it's exploiting based on the site/person.


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post Mar 20 2009, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(Nathan Graves @ Mar 19 2009, 07:19 PM) *
QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 19 2009, 05:52 PM) *
I'd have to disagree. The Catholic Church teaches that it does, and I trust them. I really think that pornography is wrong and is just an easy way to get viruses on your PC.
Pornography being wrong is your choice, okay. I don't think there's any harm in asking your reasoning, though.

For the viruses part, only a dumbass that's completely mindnumb in internet security would get viruses, or go to a website that would give them said virus. Of course, I haven't looked at pornography myself to know, but I've definitely looked up enough ROM sites to know that I can easily differentiate between what will and won't give me a virus.



Hey, I took it to be that this forum was to put our own opinions down. I put down my opinion. So what? SO did you, and I'm not yelling at you about it.


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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 20 2009, 07:03 PM) *
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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 19 2009, 05:52 PM) *
I'd have to disagree. The Catholic Church teaches that it does, and I trust them. I really think that pornography is wrong and is just an easy way to get viruses on your PC.
Pornography being wrong is your choice, okay. I don't think there's any harm in asking your reasoning, though.

For the viruses part, only a dumbass that's completely mindnumb in internet security would get viruses, or go to a website that would give them said virus. Of course, I haven't looked at pornography myself to know, but I've definitely looked up enough ROM sites to know that I can easily differentiate between what will and won't give me a virus.



Hey, I took it to be that this forum was to put our own opinions down. I put down my opinion. So what? SO did you, and I'm not yelling at you about it.


He wasn't yelling at you. He said it's fairly obvious to tell what's a site that will give you a virus and what's a site that won't give you a virus. He was also asking you to explain why you believe that pornography exploits women and is wrong.


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post Mar 20 2009, 07:25 PM
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it all depends on how you look at pornography. besides the fact that it is one of the BIGGEST money makers in the world, it gives millions of women and men jobs. some forms of pornography could be considered art, some is just considered straight on nasty smut. but in one way or another, it is still an art form. i don't think it exploits women at all-in fact, quite the opposite. not that i care.



i prefer strip clubs. A REAL MANS way of exploiting women.


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post Mar 20 2009, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 20 2009, 07:03 PM) *
Hey, I took it to be that this forum was to put our own opinions down. I put down my opinion. So what? SO did you, and I'm not yelling at you about it.
Hey, I wasn't even calling you a dumbass, buddy. Don't take it so personally.

(Yeah Archangel got it first, I have too much pride to not get my word in).


If it was something else, clarify. I see nothing wrong with my post.


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Oops, I just saw the word dumbass and I jumped to defensive mode, sorry for overreacting. As for my explanation, true, it may give women and men jobs from around the world jobs, but then if it is really good, then why do porn stars have such a high suicide rate. They can't be happy. I mean I wouldn't be knowing that some girl is masturbating to a picture of me naked, not that I do that, but still, I'm just walking in their shoes.

Also, I just find it to be immoral. I follow by the catechism, and I believe that porn is wrong and yes, I also believe that same-sex marriage is wrong, also. Yes, I saw what you crossed out.


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I also believe that same-sex marriage is wrong, also. Yes, I saw what you crossed out.

Might be wrong, but it sure as hell is awesome.


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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 20 2009, 08:14 PM) *
I mean I wouldn't be knowing that some girl is masturbating to a picture of me naked, not that I do that, but still, I'm just walking in their shoes.

Also, I just find it to be immoral. I follow by the catechism, and I believe that porn is wrong and yes, I also believe that same-sex marriage is wrong, also. Yes, I saw what you crossed out.

Dude, knowing that, it is freaking exciting. I mean, not like I'd know, or something.... *Coughcough*
And same sex marriage... Well, that is for an entirely different topic =\

As for the art of porn being exploitative, then no, unless it is made without consent on all parties involved (I know some of you are into that stuff), in which case it is. I think we can all pretty much agree on this, considering it is not exploitation if there is consent, and the main problem you are all digging in is the morality of porn itself, which was not the original discussion.


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the main problem you are all digging in is the morality of porn itself, which was not the original discussion.



well said. if you find the morality of porn wrong, gb2 christ-chan, or start a topic about how wrong you think it is.


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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Mar 20 2009, 09:14 PM) *
but then if it is really good, then why do porn stars have such a high suicide rate. They can't be happy. I mean I wouldn't be knowing that some girl is masturbating to a picture of me naked, not that I do that, but still, I'm just walking in their shoes.
First off, whether or not it is good entirely depends on the one watching it.

Now.

I'm pretty sure porn stars wouldn't get into the business ignorant of the fact that there are perverts watching them. To get into that and automatically assume people will just watch it for the plot or something to that extent is probably a pretty bad thought process eh? It's not like suicide is the pornography's fault, it's probably the porn star's fault for being depressed even though they chose their own life style in the first place. Not as if pornography has something to do with it, like the statistics attempt to apply -- there exists no proof to show that pornography automatically equals suicide.

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Also, I just find it to be immoral. I follow by the catechism, and I believe that porn is wrong and yes, I also believe that same-sex marriage is wrong, also.
You and I obviously differ in morals.


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