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Posted by: FueledByPokemon Oct 9 2009, 04:38 PM

This Debate Is About Homework


My Opinion ;

I think homework is pointless and useless . I spend 7 hours in school every day a week and then have to come home with two hours of homework and three hours of study .
Homework is pointless and teachers shouldnt give so much of it , because they dont do it

Posted by: deoxys infused rayquaza Oct 9 2009, 04:39 PM

ya i for 1 hate it

Posted by: FueledByPokemon Oct 9 2009, 04:46 PM

QUOTE(deoxys infused rayquaza @ Oct 9 2009, 10:39 PM) *
ya i for 1 hate it


Please use real words .

1=One

But I Do Agree With You . Homework is pointless . We dont need it .

Posted by: Pokefunguy Oct 9 2009, 04:54 PM

I don't mind it to be honest. Unless it's something that's going to take me a hour to do, and it won't count for a grade.

Posted by: FueledByPokemon Oct 9 2009, 04:56 PM

QUOTE(Pokefunguy @ Oct 9 2009, 10:54 PM) *
I don't mind it to be honest. Unless it's something that's going to take me a hour to do, and it won't count for a grade.


Most Of My Homework Counts For Nothing In My Grades .
So Its Practically Pointless

Posted by: suzyk Oct 9 2009, 05:47 PM

I don't know about you, but it's pretty useful for me. More so in math and science. My math teacher also collects our homework, so it's easy marks for me.

Posted by: Pizzakun Oct 9 2009, 05:59 PM

I always do homework just to keep it as notes.
But if it's something like math, then imo it's completely useless.


Posted by: Night Spectre Oct 9 2009, 08:14 PM

I think it's a lot easier to learn in class.. homework should be optional so only the students that really need to practice more have a chance to. Or we could just study. That separates the serious students from the lazy bums. >>

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 9 2009, 09:12 PM

I think homework that's just there for the sake of keeping you busy sucks, like in math, but for stuff like history it's fair enough.

Posted by: Scenery Oct 9 2009, 09:28 PM

I hate it but i think we should do homework if not, we'll just play everyday and ruin the test.. i think....:-)....

Posted by: Kiseki Lin Oct 9 2009, 11:13 PM

I'll admit, I'm a lazy bum who hates doing homework. However, I for one don't think it's completely useless. Homework is the extra study and practice that helps keep things in our heads. We may learn it one day, but who's to say that we won't forget it the next. By doing the homework, I realized that I remembered more than not doing it (which I also admit to doing a lot. bucktooth.gif). I really, really don't like how long it takes me to do my homework, especially the projects, but I know it helps me in the long-run.

And it doesn't hurt that homework plays a big part of my grade for nearly all of my classes. I guess they treat it as a responsibility to the students to keep up and do the extra practice despite how much you dislike it. Now that's all in my opinion. I'm lazy, I hate homework, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's pointless for me.

Posted by: TheIgDemon Oct 10 2009, 12:22 AM

I don't mind homework if I can do it in 15 minutes or less and I don't have a huge bunch of it, but overall I hate it. Especially long essay papers. Those fail big time. Dx

Posted by: I ce Oct 10 2009, 12:26 AM

Home work is what the teachers give us when their to busy lecturing me on behavior XD

DOWN WITH HOMEWORK

Posted by: FueledByPokemon Oct 10 2009, 08:36 AM

Homework , I Know It Suppose To Help Us But I Find It Bad Because I Dont Do After School Study and If You Get Questions Wrong In Subjects That You Are Bad At
For Example

- French
- Buisness Studies
- Geography
- Etc.


Well If You Get Your Homework Wrong Your Gonna Get In Trouble , I Think Thats Why I Hate Home . (Well One Part Of It)

Posted by: Suikun Oct 10 2009, 10:43 AM

Homework is basically practice for what you learned at school. Some people are quick learners, others aren't.

Either way, the idea is that if you do your homework all the time then you'll understand the material. I think it's important to have homework.

Posted by: FueledByPokemon Oct 10 2009, 11:58 AM

QUOTE(Suikun @ Oct 10 2009, 04:43 PM) *
Homework is basically practice for what you learned at school. Some people are quick learners, others aren't.

Either way, the idea is that if you do your homework all the time then you'll understand the material. I think it's important to have homework.


And Are You Finished School/College ?

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 10 2009, 12:45 PM

QUOTE(Suikun @ Oct 10 2009, 11:43 AM) *
Either way, the idea is that if you do your homework all the time then you'll understand the material. I think it's important to have homework.
I believe in optional homework and letting the tests, projects, and papers speak for themselves.

Posted by: weirdazn Oct 10 2009, 01:06 PM

To me, it's both but then again I'm a ner and I kind of started to hate homework some time in 8th grade because my algebra teacher gave me homework almost everyday... It's so true that it is practice of what you've learned in school. I don't like writing essays that often unless I get the gist of it.

Posted by: samz134 Oct 10 2009, 01:12 PM

I think it all depends on what homeowrk it is.... personally... i cba to do english and maths homework... mainly because im in top english and i can't do a thing, and everyone else is smarter than me... sad.gif and maths cuz my maths teacher doesn't tell you off for it grin.gif but if it's for geography or music or art (my three chosen subjects) then i'd gladly do it, cuz i love the subjects. So i think people only do it if they love the subject it's for. But other than that... it's a waste of space i agree shakefist.gif srsfacts.gif mad.gif walloftext.gif -_-.gif sleep.gif crazy.gif

Posted by: Suikun Oct 10 2009, 04:38 PM

QUOTE(Lord Raven @ Oct 10 2009, 12:45 PM) *
QUOTE(Suikun @ Oct 10 2009, 11:43 AM) *
Either way, the idea is that if you do your homework all the time then you'll understand the material. I think it's important to have homework.
I believe in optional homework and letting the tests, projects, and papers speak for themselves.


That works too. It helps filter out the useless people and teaches responsibility at an early age. I guess all the people who really cared about school would find other ways to learn on their own time though, but I think motivation through homework and not failing and all that good stuff helps out most people too. Really, I don't see how homework hurts anyone who has time to do it. And pretty much everyone would.

Two of my classes do the "study if you want" idea, and those two classes are the ones where the grades between the smartest and stupidest people are at the greatest difference. Some people just need motivation to actually do good in school, and homework fits that need.

also i dont think the u.s. would like to have its dropout rates any lower than they already are

@FueledByPokemon: I'm a sophomore in high school.

Posted by: Reyo Oct 10 2009, 06:12 PM

At first, I hated homework for the simple fact that I had to do it and the teachers didn't, but then I learned that while the teachers don't have to physically do it, they do have to grade it. Think about it, you have a 2 page packet with 50 problems each, which is 100 problems. There are 30 kids in your class, so that's 3000 problems. Now take into account the usuall reality which is the fact that your teacher teaches more than one class, which multiplies the homework by however many classes they have, putting them at at least 6000-9000 problems to grade. So yes, you had to spend an hour or two on 100 problems before going outside...but can you imagine grading 6-9 THOUSAND problems? You're talking about dedicating an entire weekend to one homework assignment. And what about tests where they have to read and grade essay assignments or check math problems for the correct steps. Sure, scantrons make it easier, but how many homework assignments are scantron?

Besides, when you get into higher levels, where the entire class grade might be based on two tests...you'll be begging the teacher for homework. I garuntee it.

Posted by: Kiseki Lin Oct 10 2009, 06:38 PM

It is easy to forget that teachers also have to correct your homework and probably about some 100+ kids too, especially in high school. Teachers spend a lot of their own personal time doing these - whether they help your grade or not. I don't believe homework is useless nor do I believe that whatever grade you're in is relevant.

As Suikun stated before that I definitely agree with:

QUOTE
Some people just need motivation to actually do good in school, and homework fits that need.


You can also be lazy and just not do it, but when tests come around or something, majority of those who did not do it will notice that they have a tougher time than those that did it. Even if you're wrong on your homework and turn it in, more than likely the teacher will notice, mark it wrong, hand it back to you, and you get the chance to ask for help. I, personally, hate asking for help. It makes me feel like an idiot that I don't know what the heck's going on. But asking for help is a good choice in a long run, at least you'd be able to understand the material.

Posted by: Mr Blue Viperfish Oct 10 2009, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(Reyo @ Oct 10 2009, 06:12 PM) *
I learned that while the teachers don't have to physically do it, they do have to grade it.
My sister been teaching eight grade for years. She goes in at around 7am and usually leaves around 6 or 7pm(twelve hour work day, not counting tutoring and other stuff). When she gets home, nearly all of her free time is spent on grading, writing the lesson plan or making tests. Being a teacher is extremely time consuming. A few hours on a math problems is nothing.

Homework is beneficial for the obvious reason. If I'm struggling with the homework, I don't understand the concept as well as I should.

Posted by: GreenEclipse Oct 13 2009, 01:31 PM

Some Homeworks are usefull others are just pointless. rolleyes.gif
If i think its worth to do it, i'll do it. If i think its pointless i will just cheat and do some parts or nothing . I never get caught vause in my school its normal juat to ask the students if they have done the homework(it depends on the teacher).

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 13 2009, 01:58 PM

QUOTE(Suikun @ Oct 10 2009, 05:38 PM) *
That works too. It helps filter out the useless people and teaches responsibility at an early age.

Yep.

I don't believe in handholding unless one is young or inexperienced, and even then trying to keep it to a minimum.

Posted by: Warden Notes Oct 13 2009, 02:06 PM

I agree that homework does help with the education of students, but the timing of the homework is a major issue. At times you could receive no homework at all, other times all the teachers give you homework on one day and expect it in the next.

Homework, if it is to be the most useful, needs to be regular and steady. This can promote study and help prevent forgetting useful information.

Posted by: laskuraska Oct 13 2009, 02:20 PM

Homework seems useless if you're doing well in the course, but chances are good that you're doing well in the course partially thanks to homework.

Posted by: Augustus Oct 14 2009, 02:20 PM

In all of my classes, homework is 10% of the grade. So you can be a genius and have a 98 average not counting homework, and you're already down to an 88 because you didn't do it. Homework gets annoying and repetitive, and it doesn't get any better as you hit your last years of high school (especially if you're like me and take 4 AP courses). Homework is, however, useful for practice, even in math, even though it's repetitive, your test questions are probably going to be on the homework. For AP Calculus in my school, our homework is our test with different numbers. Literally. So if I didn't do the homework, I'd be failing my tests and I'd get a low homework grade. In AP Modern Europe, I don't have "homework" except to work on the ID's for the chapter, which make up a majority of the test. There's 115 ID's for the next chapter too. grin.gif

Posted by: xxFrozenFlower Oct 14 2009, 05:12 PM

Ehh, homework isn't allowed to be graded (at least for us weird French Canadian high schools!) but teachers love to dish out detentions for undone homework... ;3;

It's useful because it actually helps.

It's useLESS because it drives me insane and piles on so much stress for something that isn't even graded and makes me want to kill someone slit my wrists kick small puppies steal candy out of childrens' tiny hands skip school, which is kind of counter-productive, no?

I vote useless, but this is just one bad student's opinion.

Posted by: HydroForce Oct 14 2009, 05:16 PM

Useless.
'Nuff said

Posted by: Darkrow Oct 14 2009, 05:19 PM

QUOTE(xxFrozenFlower @ Oct 14 2009, 06:12 PM) *
Ehh, homework isn't allowed to be graded (at least for us weird French Canadian high schools!) but teachers love to dish out detentions for undone homework... ;3;

It's useful because it actually helps.

It's useLESS because it drives me insane and piles on so much stress for something that isn't even graded and makes me want to kill someone slit my wrists kick small puppies steal candy out of childrens' tiny hands skip school, which is kind of counter-productive, no?

I vote useless, but this is just one bad student's opinion.


So true... You be French Canadian too? :D

Also, most of the teachers don't even CORRECT the homework.

So yeah, useless.

Posted by: TheIgDemon Oct 14 2009, 10:58 PM

I'm in a technical school and my instructor very rarely ever grades our homework. We go over it, but that's about it. I do what is graded and just skip the rest. Most of it is WorkBook homework and WB's never help me. I never do what doesn't help me.

Posted by: mrsuper Oct 14 2009, 11:13 PM

No teachers at my school never check homework, we get a tonne of it but no one checks it - I think its useless i hate doing some much work at school and getting yelled at by teachers then get home and try relax but instead get yelled by mum to do homework >:(

Posted by: nico111 Oct 15 2009, 07:02 PM

Homework kills trees! Down with homework! sorry, had to say that! I am in a small school so my class has one teacher for almost everything and they make this homework report thing and ask my other teachers if we did our homework and if we did like 90% of it we get a pop. I got a pop for September with 100%! We don't get a lot of homework and when we do get some its barely 10-20 min.
the french only takes like 2-3 min at the most and people complain about it!

Posted by: SuperLAZORZ Oct 15 2009, 07:19 PM

Albeit homework sucks, and is a time waster, teachers assign it for a reason, it helps you get better at the subject.
Homework is there to make sure you study.
Think of it, do you seriously study all the time?
No, that's why we have homework.

Posted by: RheaDark Oct 15 2009, 09:28 PM

Homework's good, but it DOES kill trees. Still, I do better owrk on paper. Besides, how do you write math equations down on the computer without spending forever on the symbols and stuff?

Posted by: Chrona Oct 15 2009, 10:42 PM

Speaking as a college student who graduated high school with an A average

I never did homework unless I didn't get the concept or just wanted to review for a test. I didn't want to waste my time doing idle busywork, and was better at learning in-class than alone at home. The only drawback came in when teachers graded the massive amount of homework they tried to assign you daily. My grade 9 and 10 math teachers assigned sheets of like 30-50 questions a night and expected you to show your work, then graded it. There was no way in hell I was going to waste my time doing them, and basically flunked the homework part of the course, ending me off with a mid 70. Then my grade 11 math teacher didn't care for marking homework, and I ended up getting 99% in that class - Getting perfect on both the mid term and final exam. The class average was a mid 70, so it wasn't necessarily an easy course - The teacher just focused more on actually getting the stuff done in class than expecting us to waste our home time reviewing something he should have taught well in the first place.

My point is, homework is good for some people but meaningless for others. Assigning tons of it is counter-productive, and checking it in class is just a waste of time, especially if you go out of your way to give detentions to those who don't have it finished. It's not like they're going to learn.

Posted by: The True Dragonforce Oct 15 2009, 10:45 PM

It really depends on how much is given, what subject the homework is for, and what sorts of questions and stuff is on the homework.

Posted by: Twisted Oct 15 2009, 10:57 PM

Homework isn't really an optional thing. It's reinforcement, not a punishment. While some people may need less reinforcement than others, it's still good nonetheless. Homework isn't about the homework. It's about the exam. It's a good prep, and in a lot of cases, if you understand how to verbalize and ask questions, then homework is extremely useful. I don't know where you're coming from saying it's pointless, you just sound kinda angsty about all of it. You can't build a house if you don't have any idea what the blueprints mean. A relatively unrelated example, albeit a good one. I have practice for about two hours most days, and I have around three hours of homework, though rarely do I ever complain about it. Honestly, if I feel I truly know what we're going over (eg the majority of most of my assignments in biology) then I will half-ass it, just to say I DID get it done.

All in all, I don't think you should be saying it's pointless. There's a point. It's going to help you pass classes you need for graduation, and is a good example of what you DO and DON'T know for your exam.

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 16 2009, 11:26 AM

it's pointless if you get a shitload of repetitive busy work when you already got the fucking point during the first few problems

which is why I feel homework should be optional :/

Posted by: Fuji Oct 17 2009, 12:14 AM

i officially hate it cause projects suck cause the homework gets in the way and weekends are supposed to be fun not work, work, work


but it does help you improve in a way cause i never study for a single test but when i get the test i just think about what i did on my homework.

Posted by: Acid Ace Oct 17 2009, 07:20 PM

I hate homework. My dad says I can't do anything until 5:30 because of my homework.

Posted by: MoogleSam Oct 18 2009, 05:49 PM

Well it is useful for the teachers so that they know you understand what they taught you, it can reinforce what you learned but, it is boring, it can take forever if you can't focus on it. Also it is pointless when they give you lots of questions on one thing, seriously, WHY!? I understand, I don't need a million questions to reinforce it! D8

Posted by: Pikalover10 Oct 18 2009, 05:51 PM

Useless. I know it helps us with learning it blah blah blah. But most schools are talking about going GREEN as in RECYCLING. WELL, IF YOU'RE RECYCLING START WITH NO HOMEWORK AND NO TEXTBOOKS! XD

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 18 2009, 05:52 PM

that makes no sense, you recycle the paper right after using it.

Posted by: Shauna45 Oct 18 2009, 05:56 PM

I know we need it. But less is always nice/

Posted by: Droops Maghee Oct 20 2009, 02:21 AM

Its useful if:
1. you do not procrastinate <-- my biggest problem.
2. if nothing distracts you.
3. you actually do the homework.
crazy.gif point.gif

Posted by: Panlah Eats Cupcakes Oct 20 2009, 09:57 AM

Homework is a useful tool to help you retain what you learned during the day. People that don't do their homework fail not just because they just blow off assignments, but because they forget everything they learn and bomb the tests too.

<knows from experience>

Posted by: ShiroYume Oct 23 2009, 09:55 AM

For me, homework has always been a necessary evil. I don't like to do it, but it helps me understand the material and most of the time I barely have to work for the actual class tests since I already understand everything ^^ Though I'm also a quick learner, so that might make it easier for me.

What I do hate is pretty much pointless homework. In Philosophy, our 'teacher' (probationary teacher), who is pretty much hated by everyone (not because he's strict, but...urgh, I can't even describe why I loathe him pinch.gif. Honestly, I've never truly hated a teacher before him, but I just can't stand anything about him (except his absence, that's alright XD)) once made us write a 'philosophical essay' on what it means to philosophize (from our point of view). The word '(philosophical) essay' has become one of my most detested ones. Even though I handed it in...

But generally, I think homework it's useful, because it's one of the only ways to get lazy me to do something for school ^^

Side information: I'm in 11th grade in Germany, have school from 7:35 to 13:45 on three of five school days, one day from 7:35 to 13:45 and after that sports from 15:15 to 16:45, and one day from 7:35 to 12:55. Ironically the day on which I have the least school is the day I have most activities that don't have anything to do with school...
I've always been pretty good at school, but now the level of difficulty has increased immensely this year, since I'm going to get my secondary school qualifications at the end of the 13th grade, so I hope I can keep my good marks...pinch.gif

Posted by: Dark Roxas Oct 24 2009, 09:43 AM

One Word:
USELESS!

Posted by: ericpenguin Oct 25 2009, 01:06 PM

Homework can be both. Busywork is pretty much useless, but homework can also be previewing the next day's material, or comprehension.

Posted by: Admiral Cereus Oct 27 2009, 01:39 AM

Homework helps in understanding the material and sets you up for habit and a form of discipline for later on in life.

Aka: Jobs.

It's busywork and it's boring as hell but that's what a job is- tedious, busywork that nobody wants to do but has to do it in order to make a bloody living. Funny how the two parallel with each other.

How homework is executed can use a bit of change in my opinion so that it's not so much as tedious as that it's helpful enough for you to understand your material- and form good habits so that you can become drones to the corporate enviornment but not so much that you want to kill someone.

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 27 2009, 02:18 PM

I like the way my chemistry ap class deals with homework: you don't have to do it, but if you do it and don't understand it, ask in class and we'll go over it.

It's really good for me because I hate repetitive busywork, especially when it actually isn't tedious, just really boring with little to no trade-off. Just last night I went through every problem -- all like 40 of them -- and I understood every last bit of it without getting too burnt out (doing the hardest and easiest typically, and repeating them if I don't quite get it the first time.) That way the stuff I don't get gets more practice, and the stuff I do get won't get overkilled practice.

Does homework help you understand? Yes. Is it always necessary? No. Some are quicker learners than others, and if someone simply chooses not to do their homework while they don't understand a concept, it's their loss and they can take the shit for themselves on tests, quizzes, projects, and papers where they will do poorly. This teaches personal responsibility for one's own education more than making it required, especially considering the amount of credit you get for simply doing homework, be it right or wrong, in high school.

I guess that's why my physics teacher grades certain homework for accuracy (because I've gotten Ds on a lot of my E&M shit while still maintaining a solid C in the class, and last year a B in Mechanics for the same thing) and not necessarily precision. So we can learn from our mistakes and do it right for when it really matters.

Posted by: Xoradai Oct 27 2009, 09:20 PM

I think it's good for helping people learn, but I don't think it should be mandatory.
I learn most of math perfectly fine in class, so why should I do the homework if I can ace the tests anyway?
If you don't get it, then do the homework and your grades will rise.

The problem with this method is that everyone slacks off and fails from laziness. xP

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 27 2009, 09:47 PM

then let them fail, it's their fault

Posted by: Shawn Blaze Oct 29 2009, 01:29 PM

The homework we get sucks, the teachers just want us to worry about school and take away the focus on the rest of our lives shakefist.gif

Posted by: Renee Nov 4 2009, 08:28 PM

Personally, I HATE homework. Especially when my teacher decides it's not for a grade the next day. Hello! I just spent HOURS working on that, and your not going to give me any credit!?!

Posted by: Kiseki Lin Nov 4 2009, 08:30 PM

I'd like to think there's a difference between just hating homework against that it's useless. You can abhor it, but it can help you to. For some, it really may be useless, but for others, not so much. Also, it helps teachers understand what kind of help some people need or what to focus on where they notice the most mistakes and stuff like that.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 4 2009, 08:45 PM

QUOTE(Shawn Blaze @ Oct 29 2009, 01:29 PM) *
The homework we get sucks, the teachers just want us to worry about school and take away the focus on the rest of our lives shakefist.gif


Yeah, because what you learn in school is NEVER used during said "rest of your life."
facepalm.gif

Posted by: musical Nov 5 2009, 07:13 PM

i do not like homework at all. it doesn't help you. studies actually show that homework doesn't help kids in elementary school.

the only good thing that comes out of homework for me, is that i stay on the same level as the other kids in my math class. i'm really slow when it comes to math, and the homework keeps it in my head. we've been doing the same thing (solving equal equations) in math for about a month, and i still have a hard time remembering what to do, how to it, and all that stuff. the math homework helps me out a lot.

English homework is really stupid, though. most of the time i have to read 100 pages a week, and i did that in two days with the new book i'm reading Flowers for Algernon. English is too easy too need homework, but the reading this does give some of the lazy students a wake up call. most of the class work we do is based on our book, so i guess it does help a little.

that's my opinion on homework. in some subjects it helps a lot, but in some...not so much.

Posted by: Oxyus Nov 5 2009, 07:38 PM

Personally i think that homework is more of the same stuff they give in school,it's taking a bit of school to your house.Homework is simply pointless because it's more of the same junk they give and let's face it,we go to school to learn,not do school stuff in our house and truly i find that homework is what makes students act rebellious because they can't relax in there houses,i say that life would be happier if homework never existed in the first place.(Those who agree with me say it because i can tell a lot of people agree with me.)

Posted by: Kiseki Lin Nov 5 2009, 08:39 PM

Personally, thinking back to my elementary, that was the time where I did all of my work with my parents telling me to or not. It did help me get good ethics and made me more able to do my own homework after my parents stopped telling me - they assuming that I'd do it. And I did it. It can build good work ethics for some.

It's not the same for all students, IMO.

Posted by: sweetmelody Nov 5 2009, 08:51 PM

kk I don't like homeworks but I don't think it's useless..

if there is no homework, honestly, we won't study at all!!
and it helps us to follow the next lecture

Posted by: PokeLuber Nov 5 2009, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 4 2009, 05:45 PM) *
QUOTE(Shawn Blaze @ Oct 29 2009, 01:29 PM) *
The homework we get sucks, the teachers just want us to worry about school and take away the focus on the rest of our lives shakefist.gif


Either the economy is failing, and the school districts are choosing crap teachers, or you are just exaggerating. Teachers wouldn't want you to worry about school, and they wouldn't want to "take away the focus on the rest of your lives". Why do you think they chose the job of being a teacher? Would anyone want a low-salary job? No, they just want to help you. Why does everyone make it sound like the "teachers at THEIR school" make their life miserable?


Yeah, because what you learn in school is NEVER used during said "rest of your life."
facepalm.gif IMO, you do use what you learn in school later in your life, it isn't just an excuse to make you learn. Learning/using your brain helps prevent you from getting Alzheimer's disease when you get older.


Well, here are some pros and cons of homework, I haven't finished the list of everything that is untangled in my brain yet.

Pros of HW
-Homework typically helps you study, because you have to do it, or let your grades slip.
-Gives you credit for the hours you've spent, finishing it. I mean, how are you going to get your grade higher? Tests everyday? Classwork everyday? What happens if you don't finish it?
-Kills time? I don't know... Homework kills time for me, I don't want to spend my 6hours of free time everyday on the computer.
-Mostly, the point of homework for me, is to kill some time, helps me study, especially if I have horrible teachers that can't teach.
-Doing your homework helps develop those little brains some of you lazy bums have, and it will help prevent you from getting infected by Alzheimer's disease when you grow older.

Cons of HW
-The lazy bums never do their homework, and their grade slowly slips.
-Busy work, some of my classmates spend so much time on their homework overnight, just to get one answer right on their Geometry homework, they're starting to get bags on their eyes.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 6 2009, 01:51 AM

QUOTE(PokeLuber @ Nov 5 2009, 09:54 PM) *
Yeah, because what you learn in school is NEVER used during said "rest of your life."
facepalm.gif IMO, you do use what you learn in school later in your life, it isn't just an excuse to make you learn. Learning/using your brain helps prevent you from getting Alzheimer's disease when you get older.


ok...your comment kinda confuses me, but I think you're agreeing with me so I'm just gonna leave it alone.

Posted by: Darknavi Nov 6 2009, 02:28 AM

I think its UselesS anD Useful ( WtF?)

I mean it helps study and makes you remember the classes you had on the day and kill time <__<

But

Its a Big PAIN inthe ass to make when theres a lot of it

EDIT: Eggs go in ur SIIIIIIIIGNAAAAAATUUUUUUUURE!
~Reyo

Posted by: Ieva Kasku Nov 6 2009, 02:58 AM

I used to think homework was useless, but now I definitely think it's useful. Yeah, it's work you have to do outside school, but it really does help you learn the material. It also keeps your grade from depending on one or two tests. The more grades, the less they all count for, and the more leeway you have to keep a good grade.

Posted by: Betala Nov 6 2009, 03:10 AM

I'm kind of student who already learns everything in the school, so giving homework for me is pointless.

Homework is useful and fun to do when they're interesting puzzles (like we have sometimes at maths), what are nice to do.

Posted by: kazzaz Nov 6 2009, 10:48 PM

I like it this much: 0/10. Its stupid. At my school it affects your grade. It stinks,sucks whatever, it does.For me,
its one of the most pointless things in the world.End of story.

Posted by: Rokoka Nov 7 2009, 04:31 PM

Home work is very useful, I hated it for such a long time to the point of wanting to just go insane but that home work allows people to get a understanding of what the homework about after all we don't ride a bike on are first try do we? No it's practice makes perfect trust me when you get older and look back think "I guess it's useful after all"

cause you didn't learn how to spell and read without practice right? you didn't learn to walk without practice did you? it's just the fact practice makes perfect

Posted by: spaceGHOST Nov 7 2009, 07:19 PM

Not a big fan of homework, but it helps me remember things. As much as I don't like doing it, it certainly helps me know what I need to work on before test day.

Posted by: LexDoom Nov 7 2009, 07:23 PM

to me its really useless and its killing trees also im in middle school and i have a locker witch is jacked up and i have like five classes to go plus im in even and odd day the only class that never gives homework so yeah every school is killing the earth with home work

Posted by: Kiseki Lin Nov 8 2009, 04:35 PM

QUOTE(LexDoom @ Nov 7 2009, 02:23 PM) *
to me its really useless and its killing trees also im in middle school and i have a locker witch is jacked up and i have like five classes to go plus im in even and odd day the only class that never gives homework so yeah every school is killing the earth with home work


Yup, and just about what human life revolves around kills the earth, no? Everyone uses paper in their daily lives or sees paper daily. Books kill trees, business kills trees, money kills trees. How about we cut that from our lives? shakefist.gif

Posted by: Jessica Chen Nov 9 2009, 10:33 PM

It's useful in many ways. You have to practice what you've learned right? Otherwise you will do a poor job in class. People are just stupid when they don't do their homework because they feel they don't need to. As for me, I actually like homework. Keeps me occupied.

Posted by: MoogleSam Nov 10 2009, 11:42 AM

QUOTE(Jessica Chen @ Nov 10 2009, 03:33 AM) *
It's useful in many ways. You have to practice what you've learned right? Otherwise you will do a poor job in class. People are just stupid when they don't do their homework because they feel they don't need to. As for me, I actually like homework. Keeps me occupied.


Well thanks, indirectly, you just labeled my brother as an idiot for not doing his homework just because he doesn't feel he needs to. He is a perfectionist so he makes sure he knows it and never does his homework. Some people who don't do their homework definitely know it and don't do it since they know it so well. My brother is intelligent and I take offense that you said people are just stupid when they don't do their homework, it is an insult to my wonderful brother!! pissed.gif

Posted by: Addie Nov 10 2009, 02:15 PM

I'm kind of in between. =/ I mean, I get the usage of it, it help review over the crap we learned in class and we all can't read four chapters in class in our spair time... But sometimes, for electives, when you get homework it's almost... redundant... Like, I have a ecology class as an elective and my teacher is great, but he likes to assign homework... D= So it's likee.... FFFF WHY!? IT'S AN ELECTIVE! slsdkljh lghse b,jhbgj,ser... > w<
RAEG
So yeah, it as its pros and cons, but mostly it seems good, yeah?

Posted by: Jessica Chen Nov 11 2009, 09:05 PM

QUOTE(MoogleSam @ Nov 10 2009, 11:42 AM) *
QUOTE(Jessica Chen @ Nov 10 2009, 03:33 AM) *
It's useful in many ways. You have to practice what you've learned right? Otherwise you will do a poor job in class. People are just stupid when they don't do their homework because they feel they don't need to. As for me, I actually like homework. Keeps me occupied.


Well thanks, indirectly, you just labeled my brother as an idiot for not doing his homework just because he doesn't feel he needs to. He is a perfectionist so he makes sure he knows it and never does his homework. Some people who don't do their homework definitely know it and don't do it since they know it so well. My brother is intelligent and I take offense that you said people are just stupid when they don't do their homework, it is an insult to my wonderful brother!! pissed.gif



I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend your brother. I'm sure some people don't do their homework and are still smart. I'm just saying most people don't do it. Anyways, if it's graded and you don't do it you get a 0 and it can lower your grades.

Still, people need to do their homework.

And I'm sorry I offended your brother. I didn't mean to.

Posted by: Flaming Pizza Nov 12 2009, 11:25 AM

Depends on if you do the homework. It helps some people but others its useless

Posted by: LiteSpeed Nov 16 2009, 05:36 AM

I do no homework and never study yet always get As on tests.
Seriously,I don't need it.

Posted by: Nintega Nov 16 2009, 11:39 PM

I despise homework with all my heart and soul, along with liberal-bashing conservatives, homophobic, sexist, white supremisist Christians, feminists, and what the male version of a feminist is.

The problem with my homework is that it actually counts SO MUCH for my grade. If I go through an entire semester only doing homework like, once every week, I'll probably fail whichever class I didn't do homework for. Then again, I'm only in eighth grade, so much of the stupid shit they cram down our throats there won't matter later on. I never study or do my homework, and get A's on tests, too.

Posted by: sumay Nov 18 2009, 02:58 AM

I don't know about it. It depends. I would be fine with just a little homework, I despise too much homework.
Just to do the homework, I have to work until late at night! And I can't even play computer.
And then, some students are just copying others work and it make homework pointless for people like that. I totally despise people who copy others work. I was like: It was your work, you do it yourself!
Some teachers are also giving us homework and after we sent it to them, they didn't even mark it! I think it's just pointless.

Posted by: ergomad Nov 19 2009, 09:01 PM

Personnaly i have a record memory. I say something to myself and hardly forget it!

I dont need stupid homework!!!

Posted by: sebastian Nov 27 2009, 04:39 AM

it is stupid no.gif

Posted by: Shadow Dragon Nov 27 2009, 11:00 AM

For me, homework is a bit of a neutral thing.

For some people, like those who have troubles on such things, may get better with it through homework. But, some people who would completely understand such things, I wouldn't think need much to do for homework. Then there are people with after school activities and all that, who possible have most of their days filled with other things, and I wouldn't think they want to spend time with homework then their activities. Then again, we spend like, eight or so hours each day in school. But, then again, some people have may have more troubles with something then others.

So, my vote, I don't like homework. But, eh, it's life.

Posted by: kazzaz Nov 27 2009, 11:46 AM

I hate it. Whoever invented it, i will kill them. Its USELESS! All it does is basicaly lower your grade.

Posted by: Messa Nov 27 2009, 10:32 PM

For some reason, this topic and it's posts provoke me slightly even though I'm not academic person at all. I'm not sure if my english writing skills are enough for this discussion but..

I cant help but to feel it's immature and childhish to say homework are "useless" or "stupid". You can say you hate them, but I think you shouldn't call them simply stupid. Ofcourse they aint funny, but life aint all fun.
Maybe it varies on different countries, some countries have ineffective school systems as standard. But still..

On higher degrees of school, main focus is on lectures and independent projects. What else are homework if not independent working?

School systems are meant to include all types of different studing methods from the very beginning, so that all have same possibilities of learning. You know how there are those three main types of learning methods: visual, auditory and kinesthetic. Homeworks are heavily based on method of doing something yourself from the information you've gained from hearing and seeing earlier in class. And even if you learn better by some other studing method, doing your homework expands your skills on other methods too. No person learns things only by one method.

If you find homework HARD and timetaking, that's exactly WHEN YOU NEED IT! Cant you see it?
Ofcourse it's always easier to just hang around in the class and do nothing if you don't know the answer right away, teacher will anyways tell the correct answers later - if you didn't bother to try hard enough yourself. Not to mention, children and teens dont really listen much in classes nowadays. When doing strict course of homework, you really have to ATLEAST TRY using your head if you didn't earlier with the concerned subject.

Some school subjects also need repetative methods, math is a great example. Most often math classes only get to go through recapitulation, correcting your earlier assignments and teaching new formulas, so that's when heavy homework is needed. Practise, practise, practise.

Biology, geography, history, social studies, physics-chemistry and math etc each will come handy in life later on. Some more and some less, depending on where youre aiming. It's possible you dont need advanced information on any of those, but atleast you should know the basics! Anything else is a nice extra in life.

Even classes of 90 or 120 minutes have limited time when compared to all the things you need to learn in that time. You might think some subjects are not needed later on life, but that's how we get people who have no basic knowledge of anything. Like those some poor americans who don't have any clue of what's happening outside their country and ie. think that Tibet is country in Mediterranean. Or have no idea what thermal expansion means. Or.. I'll just drop in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE (maybe this is little unfair card to put on table, but demonstrates well what I'm after now)

EDIT: I read some more posts in this topic and something bothers me a lot:
Why do you people think you need reward for doing your homework? It's enough reward that you actually did them and learned a bit more - doesnt matter how much or little but you still learned.

Posted by: Lord Raven Nov 29 2009, 12:12 PM

QUOTE(Messa @ Nov 27 2009, 10:32 PM) *
I cant help but to feel it's immature and childhish to say homework are "useless" or "stupid". You can say you hate them, but I think you shouldn't call them simply stupid. Ofcourse they aint funny, but life aint all fun.
Maybe it varies on different countries, some countries have ineffective school systems as standard. But still..
It's useless when there's a whole lot of it and the entirety of it is boring and pointless and repetitive. I'd gladly take more physics homework, but I definitely don't feel like doing all this stats homework.

The concept is that if you already KNOW the concept well enough, you don't need to practice that much. It should be optional and only exist for those who need it. If you need it and don't do it? Have fun bombing that next quiz.

QUOTE
Why do you people think you need reward for doing your homework?
You don't. You shouldn't.

Posted by: kazzaz Nov 29 2009, 12:28 PM

Its not understandable. Nope,no. Never understood hw,never will.

Posted by: Shiny Hunter Dec 16 2009, 03:28 PM

It is useful if approached properly, but useless if you cheat/copy/ don't bother.

Posted by: Pilze Dec 17 2009, 06:00 AM

Homework is useless, I don't do it. Never have, never will. I already understand everything in class, there's no reason for me to practice it over and over and over when I know how to do it. I'll forget it in a couple of months, anyways.

Posted by: Devicho Dec 18 2009, 09:30 PM

Personally, the only time I really don't like homework is when there's a ridiculous amount of it, or when it's obvious busywork. It's rarely fun, but I want to make sure that I understand that material so that when tests come around I am capable of passing with a decent score. (Too bad my government teacher never gave us homework. Probably 90% of that class was just each student taking notes without the teacher to make sure we were getting both the info that we needed, and that the info that we got was correct and understandable. Only passed with a C.)

Posted by: Reyo Dec 19 2009, 03:05 AM

QUOTE(kazzaz @ Nov 27 2009, 11:46 AM) *
I hate it. Whoever invented it, i will kill them. Its USELESS! All it does is basicaly lower your grade.


ohhhohohohoho just wait untill you get a teacher who bases the entire grade on 3 exams. You'll be begging him for homework. Trust me.

Posted by: Professor Zhiyomi Dec 19 2009, 05:13 PM

My American Gov't teacher is like that. We are only to take notes and he gives out 2 homework assignments if anything. I didn't either recently and now I was in danger of failing. I should have at least a C now... Tests and quizes are big.

Homework is very helpful, without it I couldn't remember something I just learned until two days passed after learning it. And its best to be ready for work that requires you to fill something out within a deadline.

Posted by: Celery Dec 20 2009, 01:06 PM

Man, I can't wait until some of you guys get into college. Being in uni made me miss high school homework.

I think homework is useful! But only for those who put actual effort into it, and whose teachers actually do something with it. For example, if a teacher assigns homework but doesn't even collect it/look at it, it seems to be. . .rather pointless. I mean, students who do the homework won't know if what they did was correct, so if they've doing the homework incorrectly, they may very give incorrect answers on an exam. Students who don't bother with it will then receive no motivation to actually do it.

Basically, homework, like many things in life, is a good concept that can be executed very poorly. Overall, though, I still think it's useful. No matter how well you may think you know a subject, practice and reinforcement can never hurt.

Posted by: eevee64 Dec 20 2009, 08:25 PM

I hate it and think it is pointless. We should learn what we have to in class and not at home. Studying on the other hand (if you classify that as homework) i think is beneficial.

Posted by: Doctor Who Dec 20 2009, 08:31 PM

I guess, reading everything here, it's 50/50.

Posted by: Diiwica Dec 20 2009, 10:28 PM

It is vital, once you get to college, you don't generaly speaking get grades for homework. However, if you do not do it, forget about passing your finals. In highschool it gives you extra pratice, and if you don't understand the work while at home, it gives you a chance to get help. Now days you can get much of no place without a degree, so yea it may be annoying, but needed!

Posted by: Pizza Guy111 Jan 9 2010, 02:32 AM

It's taught me a life lesson. If I wait till the last minute to do something, I do better than normal. Yay, homework IS useful after all.

I think the only subject that I've benefited from via homework is math.

Posted by: Zero Chaos Jan 9 2010, 02:20 PM

Useless. So very useless...


For honors and AP students especially. Does anyone here know how much homework these people get? I'm in all honors and AP classes, and I'll have all of you know that I don't get an hour of homework a night; I receive an hour of homework per subject (on average, and I'm taking 9 classes per day). Oftentimes I'll get more, and I'm lucky to get 4 hours of sleep. I have no lunch period, so when I get home, I have lunch, no objections here, right? We all need food to survive. I also have to go to the bathroom every now and then, I need a shower, have to change, do chores, eat dinner, and many other little things. All of these add up to a pretty good deal of time, then add 8 hours of homework. I get home around 3 PM, add 9 hours. Now we're at midnight, I should probably be in bed by now. Add 2.5 hours to that due to all of the actions that I listed above, now we're hitting 2:30 AM. I have to wake up at 5 AM to get to school, so that's 2.5 hours of sleep per day. When I do homework, I don't procrastinate, nor do I take breaks. I work very quickly, and somehow with so little sleep, I work accurately.

Don't tell me to drop the honors classes either. The problem is, my parents force me to take honors and AP classes, and they're too blind to see what it does to me. I've spoken to my guidance counselor, and nothing can be done to change my classes without parental confirmation. Multiple people in my classes have the same problem; endless homework and the parents want nothing but to be able to say that they have an honors student. Unfortunately, the students have no power over their high school experience unless their parents are willing to be a little flexible. I've tried multiple times to consult my parents about the situation, but they refused to discuss it, as a result, I became suicidal. And you really can't blame me, being dead is a lot less work that what I'm doing endlessly (and don't worry guys, I don't feel this way anymore, that stage of my life is over). So then I got sent to Kid's Peace Hospital for a few weeks, my survival was forced, and I had to go back to school. Now I'm back to the same schedule mentioned above, not much of a life, is it? Homework has not yet benefited me at all, except maybe in the concept that I have a strong hand and can type over 100 WPM from so many typed projects. It turned my whole life upside down, and I'll tell you, it's not a good life I'm living.

This brings me to my first day of high school. The principles were going on and on about how our high school years are going to be the best years of our life, and how we should enjoy it as best as we can. Haha, right, right... I'm enjoying high school very much right now. I have not yet once been able to hang out with a friend the entire school year, we got endless homework over the winter break, and you know what? I was looking forward to a vacation where I could recollect my mind and make up all of the lost sleep. Well guess what, I got 5 hours of sleep each night and was doing yet another long period of endless homework. Not even one day to myself the entire vacation, and I barely got all of my homework done in the end. I was the only one in all of my classes to get all of my homework done for all subjects, because you know what? People were taking small breaks from homework to spend some time with their families during the holidays (Christmas, Kwanzaa, New Year's, etc.), and as a result, they didn't finish their homework, lost points, and got scolded by their parents. Wonderful thing homework is, isn't it?

I could go on rambling about why homework is useless, but I have homework to get done, so I can't stick around anymore. This weekend is the only one that I don't have endless homework in, I got a fair amount of it done, badly needed a break, so I took a break, Hopefully tomorrow I'll have at least an hour to myself, and to me, that's a lot of free time.

So yeah, judging by my experiences, I can't say that homework is useful. It's only useful in the manner of ruining lives and, when thought through, it kills people. Take me, if I wouldn't have told my guidance counselor that I was feeling suicidal, I probably would have killed myself by now.

Posted by: Lord Raven Jan 9 2010, 09:02 PM

QUOTE
For honors and AP students especially. Does anyone here know how much homework these people get? I'm in all honors and AP classes, and I'll have all of you know that I don't get an hour of homework a night; I receive an hour of homework per subject (on average, and I'm taking 9 classes per day). Oftentimes I'll get more, and I'm lucky to get 4 hours of sleep. I have no lunch period, so when I get home, I have lunch, no objections here, right? We all need food to survive. I also have to go to the bathroom every now and then, I need a shower, have to change, do chores, eat dinner, and many other little things. All of these add up to a pretty good deal of time, then add 8 hours of homework. I get home around 3 PM, add 9 hours. Now we're at midnight, I should probably be in bed by now. Add 2.5 hours to that due to all of the actions that I listed above, now we're hitting 2:30 AM. I have to wake up at 5 AM to get to school, so that's 2.5 hours of sleep per day. When I do homework, I don't procrastinate, nor do I take breaks. I work very quickly, and somehow with so little sleep, I work accurately.
i feel as if this is very very variable and dependent on both the class and teacher.

i know ap chemistry teachers from other schools that give metric fucktons of homework -- mine gives a lot of homework, but doesn't give a crap whether or not we do it.
my ap physics teacher gave us virtually no homework both years I've taken ap physics (fyi: ap physics c is essentially a two part course, mechanics and electromagnetism. that's why i took it two years)
my ap calc teachers gave us about half hour homework a night, tops. same with stats this year.

and my GT classes? (since GT here is what you guys call honors, and honors here is the next thing down) didn't generally give much. i remember US History GT was like a reading assignment + notes every other day [since i had the class on a lunch block, so I had the class every other day). chem GT was a ton of busywork but it would take a half hour a night, tops. precalc GT was just as work intensive as calc AP. etc

AP World History I've heard people staying up all night on numerous nights, as well as the first month of ap microeconomics [not sure about macro]. same with AP bio.


so you're just exaggerating. i can probably give you a good idea of ideal workload given the class -- the ideal AP Chemistry teacher will bombard you with homework and labs, for example. but mine's like "you basically did everything in chemistry GT and i don't care much about homework." yeah i got more work in honors world history and even spanish than i did in every single one of my four AP classes this year



finally, senioritis is a LEGIT disease and anyone who thinks they won't succumb to it is an arrogant little bitch lol i had an english paper due on the 23rd of december and due to snow and that shit it got pushed back to yesterday. i started and finished it two days ago. and i thought i would really turn myself around this year.

Posted by: Zero Chaos Jan 9 2010, 09:20 PM

QUOTE(Lord Raven @ Jan 9 2010, 09:02 PM) *
QUOTE
For honors and AP students especially. Does anyone here know how much homework these people get? I'm in all honors and AP classes, and I'll have all of you know that I don't get an hour of homework a night; I receive an hour of homework per subject (on average, and I'm taking 9 classes per day). Oftentimes I'll get more, and I'm lucky to get 4 hours of sleep. I have no lunch period, so when I get home, I have lunch, no objections here, right? We all need food to survive. I also have to go to the bathroom every now and then, I need a shower, have to change, do chores, eat dinner, and many other little things. All of these add up to a pretty good deal of time, then add 8 hours of homework. I get home around 3 PM, add 9 hours. Now we're at midnight, I should probably be in bed by now. Add 2.5 hours to that due to all of the actions that I listed above, now we're hitting 2:30 AM. I have to wake up at 5 AM to get to school, so that's 2.5 hours of sleep per day. When I do homework, I don't procrastinate, nor do I take breaks. I work very quickly, and somehow with so little sleep, I work accurately.
i feel as if this is very very variable and dependent on both the class and teacher.

i know ap chemistry teachers from other schools that give metric fucktons of homework -- mine gives a lot of homework, but doesn't give a crap whether or not we do it.
my ap physics teacher gave us virtually no homework both years I've taken ap physics (fyi: ap physics c is essentially a two part course, mechanics and electromagnetism. that's why i took it two years)
my ap calc teachers gave us about half hour homework a night, tops. same with stats this year.

and my GT classes? (since GT here is what you guys call honors, and honors here is the next thing down) didn't generally give much. i remember US History GT was like a reading assignment + notes every other day [since i had the class on a lunch block, so I had the class every other day). chem GT was a ton of busywork but it would take a half hour a night, tops. precalc GT was just as work intensive as calc AP. etc

AP World History I've heard people staying up all night on numerous nights, as well as the first month of ap microeconomics [not sure about macro]. same with AP bio.


so you're just exaggerating. i can probably give you a good idea of ideal workload given the class -- the ideal AP Chemistry teacher will bombard you with homework and labs, for example. but mine's like "you basically did everything in chemistry GT and i don't care much about homework." yeah i got more work in honors world history and even spanish than i did in every single one of my four AP classes this year



finally, senioritis is a LEGIT disease and anyone who thinks they won't succumb to it is an arrogant little bitch lol i had an english paper due on the 23rd of december and due to snow and that shit it got pushed back to yesterday. i started and finished it two days ago. and i thought i would really turn myself around this year.


Err... no, I'm not exaggerating. You and I seem to go to completely different schools, I'm not the only person in all GT/AP classes that does this; all people that I know in such classes in my district work as long as I do every day, and I tell you, they don't get much sleep either. Either I ended up with really bad teachers this year, or that's just how high school is in my district.

Now with midterms coming up and all teachers doing reviews, I'm not getting too much writing homework, so I'm now getting much more sleep... I'll have you know that I feel like a completely different person with 7 hours of sleep, that's almost triple what I normally get.

Posted by: Lord Raven Jan 9 2010, 09:30 PM

never said you were exaggerating bro. but AP social studies are closer to what you describe than, say, AP sciences.

also one of my best friends took the AP Government test without taking the class and got a 4. all she did was read the kaplan AP test help booklet throughout the year. chew on that : P

Posted by: shayminlandforme Jan 10 2010, 09:26 AM

They should add an extra hour of school and scrap homework.

Posted by: Gryphaena Jan 10 2010, 10:12 AM

Homework is useful for keeping the material fresh in one's head.

Posted by: Jack Frost Jan 10 2010, 02:06 PM

We need them.

1) Teaches you to actually work - not just play dead in school.
2) Everything can't possibly be taught inside the classroom.
3) Some people learn better by studying intependently.
4) Everyone's equal so no-one gets less homework than other one. Though more homework can be used as a punishment for breaking rules (dun-dun-dduuuunnn~...).

Naturally someone might be way more talented/gifted or better in one or few of the school subjects than other student. That means only less trouble while doing homework.

Posted by: alex554 Jan 10 2010, 02:15 PM

homework hurts tree's noes.gif

Posted by: Lord Raven Jan 10 2010, 03:25 PM

or you know, getting more fucking tired so you have no will to do it the next day or even continue it

Posted by: thetifftiff Jan 21 2010, 08:27 PM

Homework is really helpful for reinforcing what you learned and making sure it actually gets in your head. Of course if you get too much. it actually makes it harder on you. However, I never had to study for tests because I did my homework, I would have had a harder time studying with no guidelines than I did doing my homework as I was told to do it.

Posted by: Eniguma Jan 24 2010, 09:40 PM

I'm against the stuff. (maybe this is because I haven't even touched mine, Sunday night?)

We spent about seven hours a day at school, mostly doing work. Now, it's not like it torture or anything, but from our point of view, in this present time, we're not getting anything out of it. In the long run sure, but it just seems like a waste of time now; seven hours a day wasted.

I generally don't get too much homework. I can manage to do it all at school the day it's due and still get As on it. But I know a person who, from what he says, does absolutely nothing but homework after getting home. He's probably exaggerating, but still, that leaves little time for a social life. I think that, while we're still "kids", we should be able to get the most out of our time.

But if everyone were to get as little as I get, I guess that it'd be okay, and anyway, there's usually not enough time in class. But it would be nice for more organization in class, doing things such as shutting up the loud kids who cause problems.

Posted by: Roxas7699 Jan 25 2010, 07:26 PM

Most homework is to practice stuff we'll use in the future. Now: When it's stuff we'll NEVER use in the coming future, then I feel it is useless. But when it's something we will use for sure (E.G. Algebra, English), then it's not pointless and we need it :/ Homework is used as a way to practice so we may become good at it.

Posted by: Pizza Guy111 Jan 27 2010, 03:47 PM

QUOTE(Roxas7699 @ Jan 25 2010, 07:26 PM) *
Most homework is to practice stuff we'll use in the future. Now: When it's stuff we'll NEVER use in the coming future, then I feel it is useless. But when it's something we will use for sure (E.G. Algebra, English), then it's not pointless and we need it :/ Homework is used as a way to practice so we may become good at it.

But in situations like that, there's no doubt someone in your class who will be using those skills in the future. So, why make that one person do homework and no one else? Plus, you might have a change of interest somewhere down the road. You never know, you just might need that extra help.

Posted by: Valentino Jan 30 2010, 11:28 PM

QUOTE(Kiseki Lin @ Nov 4 2009, 06:30 PM) *
I'd like to think there's a difference between just hating homework against that it's useless. You can abhor it, but it can help you to. For some, it really may be useless, but for others, not so much. Also, it helps teachers understand what kind of help some people need or what to focus on where they notice the most mistakes and stuff like that.


I agree, I dont hate the homework, i hate spending so much time on it... but I think it is very important as a tool for teachers to evaluate what the students need help with, and also how they are teaching; if all the students are consistently getting a certain area all wrong, the teacher knows they should cover it more in-depth, or explain it to the class more. Also, homework really helps you understand the lesson more. Nobody would ever learn anything in math without homework, and reading improves dramatically with practice. I do think some teachers/schools can definitely go overboard, though.

Posted by: Divine Bitterness Jan 30 2010, 11:40 PM

Depends on the subject. Really, I think there should only be 30 minutes tops. With ALL homework. Because in math we come home with homework every day, and it's an hour per page. Plus having to practice my instrument and syudying and other homework and walking my dog. And keeping sane. That's a nice one to have.

Posted by: Valentino Jan 31 2010, 12:01 AM

QUOTE(Divine Bitterness @ Jan 30 2010, 09:40 PM) *
and walking my dog. And keeping sane. That's a nice one to have.


lol yes thats true. I know how you feel, because i always had to stay after to play sports, then even more time for homework!! i think a half-hour is good, but some students just take longer at things than others so its hard to say confused.gif

Posted by: xkittystormx Jan 31 2010, 08:51 PM

goodness gracios im not alone! homework is completely useless because its waisting our time when we are already practicing/learning in school. and did i hear the teacher say "well you have free time after school!"" yes i did but there completly wrong. we dont even have time to ourselves after scool because of homework. plus its not saving our oxygen. we need oxygen to breath so ya homework is basically decreasing our population of tree's. like i said before were already practicing/learning it in school. so whats the point? make us turn into worker monkeys and make us stare at a paper or so for a hour or more?

Posted by: OmegaForte Feb 13 2010, 12:00 AM

Home seems useful but useless for some, like me.

Some of us need it for extra reinforcement; to keep our minds refreshed. Though some do not need it at all. It is stuck to our heads and if we need extra reinforcement, there is the term called "study." I feel like homework is studying but sometimes I don't need it!

Though thank my Math B teacher for giving us packets of past Regents. That helped me pass Math B Regents. woot.gif

Posted by: Steelsentry Feb 14 2010, 06:20 PM

completely useless other than to waste free time

Posted by: LikeAStorm Feb 27 2010, 11:40 PM

I personally believe that it useless. At times I think that its useful because it helps me study for tests and such, but other than that, I think that's a waste of time and energy.

Posted by: Bellatria Musica Feb 28 2010, 09:05 PM

Depends what it is, really. As a uni student, I find some of it usefull, like if it's about things we won't cover in lectures or will legitimately help us study for exams. The majority of 'homework' ends up being busywork, though--stuff that serves no other purpose than to make us spend more (and usually unneeded) time on the same material, and doesn't really help anyone learn. I've hated that useless stuff for forever--and I agree, some schools are quite ridiculous about workloads. Let people have some time for fun before the working world hits. wink.gif

Posted by: Thale Feb 28 2010, 10:49 PM

I think I'm in the majority when it comes to disliking homework. But I know that if I didn't receive homework mostly every night, I wouldn't have the good grades I do.

My classes this year are boring high school entry classes, and if I didn't know I'd have to apply the stuff I learned that day in a few hours, I'd be asleep. For next year, though, I have a some Honors and AP classes lined up, and I know I'll be working hella hard. See, I don't hate homework as long as it doesn't take me six hours. Yeah, we actually have things to do outside of school, teachers. (...Um, I do procrastinate a lot, which might be the reason it takes so long.)

Anyway, getting back to the point, homework, in a way, gets me to pay attention in class.

Posted by: Webbz Mar 1 2010, 11:09 AM

Homework may be a pisstake but it does more good than bad. Helps you learn stuff better and keep it in memory due to repetition of the subject. So yeah, very useful but annoying.

Posted by: ThunderShard Mar 1 2010, 02:46 PM

In my opinion Homework is needed much. If the homework is easy then good, you can get it done faster. If the homework is hard, well then it means you don't fully understand it completely and you DO need practice

Note- Annoying and Hard are completely different (*cough cough* graphs *cough cough*)

You may understand something but then it turns out its not what you fully thought it was. Lets look at a class, the people who don't do there homework, are they one of the smartest kids in the class? No.
Although there is a difference between being smart and not caring xD

Posted by: DeathUmbreon Mar 1 2010, 03:30 PM

Homework's pointless....I only understand half of it.... sleep.gif

Scrap Homework,Home is for internet,ds,tv and food not homework!! nod.gif

Posted by: serena9003 Mar 3 2010, 02:44 PM

I hate homework, but most of the time it's not useless. My teachers tend to give homework assignments with questions that are similar to the ones on the tests. Most of my teachers also either go over the homework or mark the ones that I got wrong so that I can go look up the right answer. It may be annoying, but it is very helpful in the long run.

Posted by: ThunderShard Mar 3 2010, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(DeathUmbreon @ Mar 1 2010, 03:30 PM) *
Homework's pointless....I only understand half of it.... sleep.gif

Scrap Homework,Home is for internet,ds,tv and food not homework!! nod.gif


Not understanding it a big part of why they assign homework. So the teachers can know if you don't understand it or not, it helps them go over it in class, etc.

Posted by: JohnRichard1991 Mar 10 2010, 06:48 AM

For me, only assigned homework is bad.
In (my) High School, you only do homework in order to finish assignments and projects.

In Middle school and Elementary, you get assigned homework (which I never did even once) and I believe it to be a waste of time.
Not only that, you don't have time for your assigned homework because you're finishing your in-class work at home, and you would like to spend at least a little time having fun when you're 11 years old.

I also hate these teachers that used to say "If your children have no homework, read to them!"

Posted by: Gati Mar 10 2010, 02:00 PM

well, it depends.. The U.S's educational system is in the shitter anyway and that is one of the reasons a lot of homework assignments aren't helpful.

Posted by: Cyan the Fox Mar 10 2010, 05:04 PM

Homework is there to help you practice what you've learned in school at home.
I agree, although I hate homework. Very much.

I think homework should only be to finish schoolwork that you haven't finished. Or something like that.
Although I don't feel like doing more work, after about 6 hours of school.

Posted by: Podz Mar 22 2010, 01:24 PM

Woah, I made this post ages ago and its still alive o.o

Posted by: emmyy Apr 16 2010, 11:03 PM

Homework has a use. If you don't get the lesson, the homework should help you out or at least give you some practice. Yes, teachers do hand out a lot of it, but it's to help you. Some teachers do give it out as punishments, but that is supposed to teach you some sort of lesson. It all has a point somehow.

Posted by: Sparrows Apr 17 2010, 09:07 AM

In my opinion, it really depends on what subject the homework is on, and what it's about. I suppose sometimes it's okay if you need the practice, but it is pretty pointless most of the time..considering you probably might not use it later on in life.

Posted by: Endl Apr 21 2010, 06:07 PM

If its a little bit like 15 mins worth im fine with it but i hate getting 1-2 hours worth crazy.gif

Posted by: Chocolat Ice Apr 24 2010, 01:39 PM

I think it is useful. It helps me review, but sometimes it is pointless, it depends on your teacher i guess.

Posted by: akatsukuyomi Apr 24 2010, 01:49 PM

Depending on the amount of Homework and the difficulty, and the time which you have in order to get it done, it can either be helpful or useless in my opinion. If a teacher gives you a huge packet and one day to do it, it's useless because you'll rush through it. But if they give you a fair amount and not some crazy deadline, then it's helpful. On occasion I've leaned something in my classes and was given no homework for the new lesson, and the next day I came back to class and had forgotten a few things about it. I need that extra reinforcement the homework provides, I'm sure some are the same. Also, homework is a way for teachers to see what your not getting rather than a quiz or test.

Posted by: Amaranthine May 4 2010, 01:22 PM

In my opinion, homework assigned as homework with the "don't you start this now. Take it home!" mentality is
completely useless, because no matter what's on the homework, it's almost never what's on the exam.

Posted by: kaitenmia May 4 2010, 01:53 PM

I hate to say this but it's unfortunately useful.....

Posted by: Kuro Kagami May 5 2010, 01:31 AM

It's somewhat helpful depending on the class. Using homework as a review for science, math, and possibly a foreign language class is most likely necessary as these subjects require a bit more for it it stick with you. For things like english and history you probably don't need a review after lessons because most of this usually comes easy to people.

But then again it depends on the person I guess. I tend to not do my homework that involves review until way later and still do well on tests or essays. If you honestly just focus in class and take notes you're more likely to do well without homework.

Posted by: Alex Lightwood May 5 2010, 04:12 PM

Sure, it's helpful depending on the class, but what if you excel at all types of classes ? What need is there for homework then? It's so obviously useless in some cases it's just not funny, but in another case, homework is extremely useful, because, of course, some of us don't exactly learn what it is in class, and thats our chance to understand it. It's also a great communicating tool with your kids, because there's always going to be someone who doesn't understand, and will go to their parents asking for help. Other that, teachers can become quite intimidating, so you tend to sit quietly in the corner and hope she doesn't 'crack the whip' on you.

Posted by: Wingcap May 8 2010, 07:13 AM

I understand the point of homework, but I don't think it's needed anyway. It may be to help people remember things better, but In my opinion, all it does is get you frustarted at the amount and you tend not to take any in most of the time (at least for me).
It's especially hard in secondary school as, unlike primary school, all the teachers do not know how much homework you already have and just pile it on. Also, no teacher seems to respect the abilites of their students in my experience. However, I may be wrong, but this is how I see it.

Posted by: Captain May 8 2010, 07:41 AM

I find homework useful.
I use it for studying and all that fun stuff. Also I get bonus marks for doing my homework, dumblook.gif

Posted by: Chu Chu Jun 12 2010, 06:06 PM

QUOTE(Night Spectre @ Oct 9 2009, 06:14 PM) *
I think it's a lot easier to learn in class.. homework should be optional so only the students that really need to practice more have a chance to. Or we could just study. That separates the serious students from the lazy bums. >>



QUOTE(Lord Raven @ Oct 10 2009, 10:45 AM) *
QUOTE(Suikun @ Oct 10 2009, 11:43 AM) *
Either way, the idea is that if you do your homework all the time then you'll understand the material. I think it's important to have homework.
I believe in optional homework and letting the tests, projects, and papers speak for themselves.

I agree. I for one can remember what we learned in the class without having to write it down on a piece of paper. True it's practice but still.

Posted by: Ice Charizard Jun 29 2010, 06:53 AM

For some classes (i.e. band) you need to have homework. Though, I think History and Communication teachers shouldn't give homework.

Posted by: Yumie Jun 29 2010, 08:41 AM

If homework was optional, then why would anyone do it? That's kind of like when your teacher tells you to read the textbook to better understand an in- class discussion, and NO ONE does. Why would you take notes if you aren't going to get credit for it? Student A would probably reason that reading the chapter is just as good as taking notes. Then, they probably wouldn't even do that much.

For a fact, I know i would not have gotten A's if I hadn't done my homework, even if it wasn't counted as part of my grade. In math class, those review problems really are good. Plus, homeowork is a way for teachers to cover more material. Without homework, someone may decide its better to have more in- school time.

I have had crappy teachers, the kind that are too lazy to assign homework. They just go over to the board, mumble some, and then smile as you get out of their hair. And, i learned next to nothing in those classes. Maybe I would understand their lectures (though truthfully, it was a long shot), but the next day, when they try to grow on that idea, my base wouldn't be strong enough.

Posted by: Red Veist Jun 29 2010, 12:26 PM

It depends on what type of homework it is, I always looked at Math and Writing as just busy work but history and science is something that homework is good for.

Posted by: Yumie Jun 29 2010, 01:12 PM

QUOTE(Red Veist @ Jun 29 2010, 01:26 PM) *
It depends on what type of homework it is, I always looked at Math and Writing as just busy work but history and science is something that homework is good for.


I just finished Pre- Calc, and homework there is fairly challenging. If i came in and hadn't memorized the formulas for taking derivatives of fractions by doing the homework assigned, I would not have done well on the quiz/test. Same for history- unless a student has an awful good memory, it will take a lot more than a couple of glances to memorize names and dates.

Though, it is true that lower grades have a lot more busy work than the higher ones.

Posted by: shou75 Jul 6 2010, 05:49 AM

Homework is actually a waste of paper and quite useless actually.

Adults and teachers usually tell you that its for practice even though your already in school and you could just practice there.

Posted by: Banette Jul 7 2010, 06:44 PM

Well, I certainly don't like going to school for 7-8 hours just to bring it home with me afterward! But there are sometimes when it's useful; one time in math class, I didn't understand what the teacher was saying but when I looked at the homework, it was easy.

Sometimes it just depends on the subject though. Math and science homework is appropriate, English homework (which is mostly reading a fictional book and answering questions on it) is not. I also don't appreciate how my English teacher made us write rough drafts and essays in one night (this wasn't common, but it wasn't rare either).

In short:
Math and science homework = useful
Everything else = useless

Posted by: alex554 Jul 7 2010, 06:46 PM

useles, it hurts treez

Posted by: Darkrai Master Jul 30 2010, 03:23 PM

While I agree with the majority that homework sucks; it isn't entirely useless. Sure, it takes hours to complete, but it hammers in the information needed to pass exams and stuff like that. However, that is only with some subjects. Other subjects (like Art, English, and Geography) have you do stuff that is completly different to what you are doing in class. My English teacher gives my class an essay to do over one night without explaining it and expects us to hand it in the next day.
So, in short; Homework that actually relates to stuff in lessons = Useful
Unrelated homework = Not so useful.

Posted by: Reyo Jul 30 2010, 03:37 PM

QUOTE(Yumie @ Jun 29 2010, 02:12 PM) *
QUOTE(Red Veist @ Jun 29 2010, 01:26 PM) *
It depends on what type of homework it is, I always looked at Math and Writing as just busy work but history and science is something that homework is good for.


I just finished Pre- Calc, and homework there is fairly challenging. If i came in and hadn't memorized the formulas for taking derivatives of fractions by doing the homework assigned, I would not have done well on the quiz/test. Same for history- unless a student has an awful good memory, it will take a lot more than a couple of glances to memorize names and dates.

Though, it is true that lower grades have a lot more busy work than the higher ones.


I always treated my math homework as a test prep. Luckily, most college Math professors have their homework set up to where you do it, and then turn it in any time you want, as long as it's before a certain day, hour, class whatever. What I'd do is, the week or so before the test, start doing the homeworks that had content relevant to the subject matter and finish with the last homework assignment that had to do with the material being put on the test.

There was one test where I failed to do this, and that was the worst test grade I got back out of that semester. What's better is the fact that most of the time, math homework is graded. It's usually the other sciences that have homework, but that homework isn't graded. I think there was one Chemistry class where the homework was graded, and it was an introductory course.

Posted by: Stardust Snorter Jul 30 2010, 04:31 PM

I can see the use for homework in math and the sciences, but then again most homework is just regurgitating what you gleaned from textbooks to satisfy whatever tests you're forced to take. More often than not I saw it as menial work that didn't really exercise my brain at all. I felt like I was just crapping out whatever the fuck the orofessor wanted to see for the most part. That's not learning at all. That's just giving them what they want to see. If I'm going to show that I have aptitude in subjects I would rather have extensive debates and discussions and why I have the opinions that I do. I learn more from debating and discussing than I would just reading a textbook and puking out the same info in the text on a test if that makes sense.

Sure it's good for rote memorization but it doesn't mean that you actually understand the content that you're learning/testing for. That's a completely different animal there.

Posted by: Breeder Drew Aug 1 2010, 03:39 AM

QUOTE(Stardust Snorter @ Jul 30 2010, 05:31 PM) *
I can see the use for homework in math and the sciences, but then again most homework is just regurgitating what you gleaned from textbooks to satisfy whatever tests you're forced to take. More often than not I saw it as menial work that didn't really exercise my brain at all. I felt like I was just crapping out whatever the fuck the orofessor wanted to see for the most part. That's not learning at all. That's just giving them what they want to see. If I'm going to show that I have aptitude in subjects I would rather have extensive debates and discussions and why I have the opinions that I do. I learn more from debating and discussing than I would just reading a textbook and puking out the same info in the text on a test if that makes sense.

Sure it's good for rote memorization but it doesn't mean that you actually understand the content that you're learning/testing for. That's a completely different animal there.

Quoted for truth.

Posted by: Rumn Aug 1 2010, 04:23 AM

Useful! There's subjects that're really work-heavy like maths and physics that if I didn't do homework I would fail the exam...

Yeah pretty much same as ^^

Posted by: xXRainingBlood Aug 4 2010, 08:52 PM

Well, later on it becomes useful. Earlier on it is just busy work and doesn't really help much. When someone is in high school and whatnot, it helps a lot more since the work is more difficult. proudbow.gif

Posted by: Crystal Shards Aug 4 2010, 10:29 PM

It really depends on the type of homework. Synthesis (integrating what you know with other things you know and with real life applications) does help learning. Worksheets do not. I'm pro-homework, just not time wasting fill-in-the-blank shit.

Posted by: pichu egg Oct 29 2010, 03:34 PM

Very useful! It teaches kids self-responsibility and makes kids smarter also. clap.gif

Posted by: Taryn Oct 30 2010, 12:46 AM

Totally useful. Though I will admit as a kid, I hated my homework because it was boring crap. XD

The only homework that is 100% USELESS, is Algebra homework. The only folks who need to worry about Algebra are the people who are going to use it in the future...

Posted by: pichu egg Oct 30 2010, 05:55 PM

Which is pretty much everybody who isn't gonna work at WalMart or something like that.

Posted by: Zapi the Pikachu Nov 1 2010, 05:41 PM

^Well yeah people are going to look at your grades and crap when you apply for a job, but there are a lot of jobs out there that don't require much algebra at all.

As much as I hate homework, it CAN be useful...well, more than pointless, anyway...in the right amount. Studying is something that's definitely needed (for most people...I get straight A's and B's and I literally never study), maybe something to review...but like the OP said, isn't seven hours in school enough time to teach us what we need?

And I saw some people say that homework doesn't even count toward their grade! Lucky them! dry.gif


Posted by: Thel Vadam Nov 2 2010, 12:48 AM

QUOTE(Stardust Snorter @ Jul 31 2010, 08:31 AM) *
I can see the use for homework in math and the sciences, but then again most homework is just regurgitating what you gleaned from textbooks to satisfy whatever tests you're forced to take. More often than not I saw it as menial work that didn't really exercise my brain at all. I felt like I was just crapping out whatever the fuck the orofessor wanted to see for the most part. That's not learning at all. That's just giving them what they want to see. If I'm going to show that I have aptitude in subjects I would rather have extensive debates and discussions and why I have the opinions that I do. I learn more from debating and discussing than I would just reading a textbook and puking out the same info in the text on a test if that makes sense.

Sure it's good for rote memorization but it doesn't mean that you actually understand the content that you're learning/testing for. That's a completely different animal there.

Agreed.

Posted by: Slyfur Nov 2 2010, 04:17 PM

It depends. If it was something like Band, yes. Of it's history or something like that, no. Most homework is just copied from textbooks, and they expect you to give the textbook answer in situations like that. Science and Math is a definite yes, since you can't just remember them. You need practice for those. For the most part, you're just doing what the teacher wants you to do, which isn't learning at all. It's good for remembering things, but it all comes down to if you're actually LEARNING something.

Posted by: Utsukushii Nov 2 2010, 04:48 PM

Personally, I dont see a point in homework. If we go to SCHOOL to learn, then when we come home, after 6 and a half hours of going to school, your tired, and the last thing on your mind, is doing SCHOOLWORK at HOME? To me, doing schoolwork at home, makes no sense, if teachers want us doing extra work, they shoud cancel out other things, and make us do this kinda stuff in the lesson or something... but to come home, after your tired of getting up at daft-oclock, and having to spend a ton of time at school, THEN to come home and do more school work, kind makes me feel a bit mad. I could understand if you were told to study, for instance, a big test, or for you GCSE exams or whatever you take later on in school, but to do pointless sheets of work, and to do projects and stuff... I don't really see any need OR point ...

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Posted by: nikki101709 Nov 20 2010, 11:39 AM

I don't think homework is useful. It's not going to teach me much because usually I copy homework from someone else. Besides, not copying homework, I usually just Google that shit blargagh.gif

Posted by: Cocoa Nov 26 2010, 12:22 PM

useful
I finished school and those subjects I actually did the homework for I did a lot better in. When you get to college/university a lot of work is independent, you dont get spoon fed. Homework is good training for that.

Posted by: Mistys Togepi Nov 29 2010, 09:10 PM

These are really one sided.....seems everyone thinks homework is a waste of time....and i sorta agree on that, but having a little homework is always good....I mean, some people are smart and need, like, a 10 minute lesson to understand everything, but other people actually need some practice to actually put it into use.....
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Posted by: espeon40 Nov 29 2010, 09:33 PM

[quote name='Mistys Togepi' date='Nov 29 2010, 06:10 PM' post='1467671']
These are really one sided.....seems everyone thinks homework is a waste of time....and i sorta agree on that, but having a little homework is always good....I mean, some people are smart and need, like, a 10 minute lesson to understand everything, but other people actually need some practice to actually put it into use.....
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Homework is meant to just increase your skills and knowledge.
But, then again, research shows that homework is actually having a negative effect in learning for some kids.

Posted by: BMF Dec 4 2010, 01:26 PM

Useful if it counts for a grade,completly useless if its fakework.

FAKEWORK:

Is work that is not counted towards your grade,but serves the illusion that its worth something.

Posted by: bluejay100 Dec 6 2010, 05:53 PM

I feel like doing homework helps familiarizes me with the subject more than just studying. I actually like homework, except in copious amounts.

Posted by: Doublerainbow Dec 9 2010, 04:22 PM

Personally I would be happy to have a life free of homework. It is often time consuming and eats away at your social life and schedule. Many people are encouraging exercise, saying kids should get as much as possible, but homework is hindering that. When kids are forced to sit in a chair and ready a textbook or write out math problems or whatever it may be, they are not able to exercise. I'm not saying homework is the cause for obesity or excess weight, I'm simply saying it does not help in that area/

On the other hand, homework can provide reinforcement. Sometimes the homework may be a mindless activity or something that requires little brain activity, therefore probably a waste of time for the person. But it provides a catalyst for practicing and reviewing the content learned at school, allowing the student a greater chance to succeed and understand the concept.

Posted by: bijoukaiba Dec 10 2010, 12:57 PM

Looking back, I now realize how terrible my elementary school's homework policy was. If your homework was not turned in, incomplete, the wrong assignment, or did not have a parent's signature, you got a warning - a slip of paper you would have to get signed. You also got a warning for bad behavior or a dress code violation. After 2 warnings, you would get a detention.

So, let's see... you get punished for NOT doing homework, so you must get some sort of positive treatment for doing it, like using it to boost your grade, right? WRONG. Homework was not counted towards your grade AT ALL during elementary school. It was a really stupid policy. I knew how to add and subtract in FIRST grade; I don't need to go home in 3rd grade and do 20 adding/subtracting problems. -_-2.gif

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1376208-2,00.html

Looking at what this article said, I would agree that it started to sour my attitude towards school. I was a very bright child in elementary school; I was the only kid reading (albeit simple) chapter books in kindergarten, and I was the fastest multiplier in 2nd grade. Did I need homework? No. But I still had to do it because I would be punished otherwise. When I got into middle school, where homework was now counted for a grade, my grades were lower in 6th grade than they were in K-5. Why? Because when I found out that I didn't *have* to do the homework, I just quit doing it. In 7th and 8th grade, now that I knew homework was counted for a grade, I was much more willing to do it - and my grades went back up again. Same thing was true for high school.

In college, homework may sometimes count for 10%-25% of your grade. It has for all the classes I've taken that have actually assigned homework. In my biology class - where homework counted as 25% of your grade - it has been a huge help. Consider that if you don't do the homework - and assuming you don't get any extra credit from in-class questions or from exam curves - you have to make a PERFECT 100% on all 3 exams to make a C+ (75%) in the class. Take it from a college student, you will probably never make a 100% on an exam, let alone 3 of them. The closest I've ever gotten was a 96%.

TL;DR - when it doesn't count towards your grade, homework can be pretty useless. When it does count towards your grade, it can make a huge difference between a C and C-, or an A and a B. This is coming from a sophomore at one of the world's best universities.

Posted by: Galahawk Dec 10 2010, 03:57 PM

^ Fully agreed.
While homework is tedious indeed, it is helping you remember stuff easier. So the homework's mostly just reinforcement to make sure you learned it, and if they DO see you learned it, you get a grade for knowing what you need to know to pass the class. Simple as that.
My homework assignments in highschool each took less than 30 minutes to complete, which isn't nearly as bad as what a college workload can be. Plus if you study in groups of friends or with your favorite teacher (it's what I did~) then it won't be interfering with your social life at all. In the college I'm going to, homework is an enormous part of the grade because we have very few assignments that are each worth a ton of points, and that's also considering how our finals don't involve taking tests, they involve creating one quality piece of artwork for each class over a period of several weeks.

No matter how you look at it, homework IS useful, even if it's not for a grade. While I don't much enjoy doing it myself, I know that every homework assignment I ever did in highschool has somehow helped me in the long run.

Posted by: Harry Potter rox Dec 13 2010, 07:50 PM

Homework is totally useless unless it's something that you've hardly had practice with and don't know how to do it really well. Most of my math assignments don't go in the gradebook. 90% of our grades are from tests or quizzes.

Posted by: Neferit Dec 16 2010, 01:46 AM

Well, as much as I dislike most of the homework I have to do, I have to say that if nothing else, it helps me focus in the subjet better. And as I'm at university right now,, I need lots of focus, if I'm to pass.

Personally, the only thing I notice is that it gets frustrating, if I have no idea what I'm doing. But saying - for example - that it eats on my social life? Nonsense. Alright, I do not get to partying into the morning hors every day - but that is kind of positive - it saves my money! awesome.gif

Posted by: Damon Gant Dec 20 2010, 11:33 AM

Homework is completely useless, except in math (and science when math is being used). The practice is needed. In the other classes, paying attention and actually learning works out pretty well.

However, at least in the US and again, at least in California), the way math is organized is terrible:

Tests/quizzes: 60%
Homework: 20%
Final: 20%

It should be:

Tests/quizzes: 30%
Homework: 60%
Final: 10%

The huge chunk of your grade is homework, which gives students the motivation to do it and learn it. Test scores will then fall into the right place. A depleted final grade will decrease stress.

Of course, that means late policy on homework should change (lose a letter grade every day it's late), and should be thoroughly checked. I think this system would work with less flaws than the current one.

Posted by: Aten Dec 31 2010, 01:09 PM

I definitely think it's useful. It repeats the idea into your brain and you learn more.

...I think.

Posted by: rileyup Jan 2 2011, 09:37 AM

home work is useless i look up all my answers

Posted by: Darkness of Zoroark Jan 2 2011, 02:50 PM

It's both useless and useful, depending on how you look at it.
(But I, for one, dislike it)
Many people (mostly those who are the top of their class) feel homework is just reviewing stuff learned in school, which it basically is. I think that since we learn it in school, we shouldn't need to review it at home. We should review it IN school. Teachers will just assume students do their homework and do reviewing on their own time, therefore spending less time on things in school. Some kids that forget their homework or their notebook or their textbook at schol can't do that, and will be behind the following day(s).

I think there should be a strict line between "School" and "Home/Social". Kids don't want to be stuck inside on a nice sunny day doing three hours of homework, finishing an essay, and studying for two tests the following day. Without ONLY homework, the time spent with friends or recreational activities is greatly increased.
But if you're in the school band, chorus, basketball, track/field, art classes outside of school, music lessons outside of school, Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts, etc. When is it possible to find time for homework between all of that and the time you need to sleep to be healthy?

People who think homework is a good thing say it keeps the information in your mind, and helps you do better in school. Many (like myself) disagree with them. We already know the information, we're just copying the notes, not learning or reviewing anything.

Posted by: Shudders Jan 2 2011, 03:13 PM

I never have, and never will do homework.
This is what study hall is for.

Posted by: Kimito Jan 8 2011, 05:46 PM

I would say useful. As much as i hate it.

Posted by: LightYagami Jan 8 2011, 09:09 PM

I definitely think it's useful, even though I really don't enjoy doing it. I probably wouldn't study if I didn't get any homework.. meaning that when the test day arrived I wouldn't know how to answer any of the questions XD

Idk. I guess in the younger grades it's just there to build your study habits.. but it's really important in high school. If no one got homework then pretty much everybody would be failing.. Homework marks are easy mark boosters in my school :P

Posted by: eeveen Jan 11 2011, 05:40 PM

Well, in my opinion, I really think that homework is mostly useless. We just spent 6-8 hours at school, now we have to do MORE things for something that we'll just review tomorrow, give it a grade, and then cast it aside and have nothing to do with it ever again?

Let me explain.

In my school system, we had no homework until second grade. In 2nd grade, you got one sheet of homework every Thursday. You were to complete + return that sheet by the next Thursday, and then you never really saw it again. It didn't go in your folder or anything, it just got graded and returned at the next conference/end of quarter. Which really doesn't make sense, now does it?

Then, in 4th grade, the "standard" homework ways were established. We all know how that goes. Anyway, it was pretty much complete-return-get back-repeat. Tedious.


The way I see it, homework is really just studying, which we can very well do at school, instead of wasting our good time at home on it. I really don't see the point.


Keep in mind this is coming from a guy with an IQ of 143.

Posted by: ReinisC Jan 15 2011, 03:05 PM

Well homework is esential, because it tests you, but there, you can use all kids of help, and find your weak spots at a certain subject...


Or get yourself into a lot of trouble with your parents who block off your internet, computer, etc... because you didnt do it and your teacher put grades on it...

Posted by: Wingcap Apr 27 2011, 05:37 PM

Study? Yes. You'll need that to help you remember things and revise what you learned.
Homework? No. While the idea is the same, growing up doing menial tasks to remember things will just end up having you dislike the work, so you will get it out of the way A.S.A.P. and learn little or nothing.

Problem is, people are lazy, and must be given homework to make sure they actually did something, as you can't check for study. Not saying everyone is lazy, but from my experience, most people in my school told simply to revise something, nothing written, with no test looming wouldn't do it.
Just my 2 pokédollars.

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Apr 28 2011, 01:19 AM

i have to say, if it weren't for homework in college, i'd have no will to study and i'd be bombing all my exams

Posted by: Tart Spop Oct 12 2011, 05:24 PM

I only get a little homework, and it's easy to do. But still, it's useless.

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Oct 13 2011, 12:36 PM

I can tell you now that grade school is force fed education, and homework is almost always necessary to be able to do well in college and even some High School AP classes because there's too much material to teach in one class period. I got an A on all my first exams because while I didn't do much studying at all, I went all out on the homework and frankly that taught me far better than any lecture or anything could have. This is sophomore year where stuff matters more simply because it's a difficulty spike.

I'm not saying get used to doing homework now, but don't just shrug it off especially when you don't understand something.

Posted by: BarkAtTheMoon Oct 13 2011, 01:47 PM

I'm in college, and the classes I actually have homework in I am doing great, but the classes where our homework is "just study," I'm doing miserably in.

The fact is homework keeps the information fresh. You are actively using it and applying the information. Without homework, information just kinda stagnates and rots away.

Elaborative rehearsal, people srsfacts.gif

Posted by: Machae Oct 13 2011, 03:02 PM

From my experience, homework sometimes is tedious; however, it always helps me get a better grade in the classes that assign them, partially because I don't have to spend so much time studying (since, at least for me, the homework I get each day is kind of like a mini-study session). My homework kind of becomes my review notes for the semester exam (because, being a dumbass and always taking 18 or 19 credits each semester, I rarely have time for real, isolated studying), so even though I hate it at the moment, in the future I'm always thankful that I had it, since it practically serves as a study guide for all my classes xD.

I definitely think that, once you go into college/grad school, homework becomes much more important not in terms of your grades, but in terms of how much material you gain from the class/lecture. I'm learning two new languages (Hebrew and Levant Arabic) simultaneously this year, and if the professors had not assigned any workbook or worksheet pages to do, I would totally be lost. The fact that both professors actually grade the homework based on grammar and other things makes me learn the language the "correct" way, i.e. not B.S. it through and embarrass myself when I actually have to speak the language to a native speaker...

On the classes that don't assign homework or barely assign it at all, I usually never end up truly understanding the material. All I have are my notes and sometimes I won't even understand the concepts that I wrote down shakefist.gif.

Tl;dr: As a college student, I'm definitely pro-homework :P

Posted by: Reyo Oct 14 2011, 03:47 PM

My beef with homework used to be that I was a lazy High School student and just wanted to go outside and play with my what-friends or stay inside and play with my video games. Junior year I switched over to a dual credit college immersion charter school, and holy sweet Jesus! The first history class I took at that school was one of those "The final grade is based on 3 tests..." classes with NO homework, NO classwork, and NO extra credit. You fail your first exam, which I nearly did, you are BONED. So yeah...kiddies...enjoy your homework now while you can. If you're lucky you won't get too many classes that are test specific grades, but if you do you'll learn to appreciate homework for both a study aid AND a grade cushion.

Posted by: chinqs96 Oct 30 2011, 01:28 PM

homework is useful to an extent. it helps you get practice, so you know how to do the stuff, but when you get too much, it just gets repetetive and stupid. but thats my opinion

Posted by: PawsrentOrigin Nov 2 2011, 09:35 PM

I hate homework. It's bad enough that I have to do stuff that won't affect my life at all. They say we're learning geometry so we can function in the real world, but why would the average person need it? In fact, almost everything I have to do is stupid. I have a freaking IQ of over 140, and I already know this stuff. Besides, I'm going to be vet. I once actually asked a teacher why we had to learn this, and he couldn't think of a good answer. He said, and I quote...

"Um... Because knowledge is power."

I should just be able to get on with my life and go to college.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 3 2011, 04:01 AM

QUOTE(PawsrentOrigin @ Nov 2 2011, 09:35 PM) *
I hate homework. It's bad enough that I have to do stuff that won't affect my life at all. They say we're learning geometry so we can function in the real world, but why would the average person need it? In fact, almost everything I have to do is stupid. I have a freaking IQ of over 140, and I already know this stuff. Besides, I'm going to be vet. I once actually asked a teacher why we had to learn this, and he couldn't think of a good answer. He said, and I quote...

"Um... Because knowledge is power."

I should just be able to get on with my life and go to college.


That's because high school is nothing more than glorified babysitting. However, there have been scary amounts of information passing on and leaking over. Usually, it's nothing major, like some of what I learned in medic school leaking over in biology, Calculus leaking over into Physics (whoda thunk it, right?), and Biology leaking over into Psychology. There have also been instances where the professors have brought shit up from years ago, which really blew my mind. Point is, yeah high school is basically "that thing you have to do because 13 year olds aren't yet old enough for living on their own" but once you get to college...it's not hard (I'll use this to take note of you saying "I have an IQ of 140", and suppress the urge to doubt that like I do everyone who says they have superhuman intelligence on the internet long enough to take it into account.) but it connects all of the little pieces that make it up different compared to high school.

Like right now, I'm having to deal with two organizations who absolutely think they are god's gift to existence, and thus, deserve precedence over ALL trying to fight for the same niche in my life. To bore you the details, I'm starten to lean more towards the military, and telling the fancy smart student club to sit on a misc. phallic object.

Where was I? Right...hate homework now, but when you do reach the magical wonderland that is "college", you're going to run into situations where it's going to save your life. EXAMPLE: History teacher who likes to base the ENTIRE grade on 2 tests...and there's a mutual dislike between you and History. That is just an example, you may be awesome at history, but nobody's that amazing at every little subject.

Posted by: Ritsukah Nov 3 2011, 06:47 AM

To start off, I never do homework, barely ever. >_> *Awaits all the death glares of ultra evilness* ... sad.gif

Well, I can't really say I never do homework, it just depends what the actual h/w is really, and if I'm in the mood to attempt it in some given way.

Hm but I agree slightly - half the 'crap' the teachers give us to work on at home is either not even on the tests/exams/assignments we'll be given or is mostly irrelevant to our current lives in time, or future life ahead... :S If that makes sense? xD

Anyways, I do currently have an art assignment I'm working on at home (painting on canvas). I personally take a liking to art as a subject, and am willing to tackle any problems/homework it offers me. :P <3

Posted by: Lugia182 Nov 8 2011, 03:36 PM

Useful, absolutely. I only came to appreciate that when I furthered my education - I wasn't able to learn the material we were given purely from lecture time, so the homework there was very useful. And I guess that's what it's there for in school. That and to teach you to do things for yourself, research things yourself, complete tasks you are given blah blah blah... all pretty useful life skills if y'ask me.

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Nov 10 2011, 07:43 PM

QUOTE
Calculus leaking over into Physics (whoda thunk it, right?)
Leaking over? Calculus was created because of Physics, it can't exactly leak over if it's the entire reason it exists.

QUOTE(PawsrentOrigin @ Nov 2 2011, 09:35 PM) *
I hate homework. It's bad enough that I have to do stuff that won't affect my life at all. They say we're learning geometry so we can function in the real world, but why would the average person need it? In fact, almost everything I have to do is stupid. I have a freaking IQ of over 140, and I already know this stuff. Besides, I'm going to be vet. I once actually asked a teacher why we had to learn this, and he couldn't think of a good answer. He said, and I quote...

"Um... Because knowledge is power."

I should just be able to get on with my life and go to college.
You'll still take a bunch of stupid classes you'll hate in college, so why bother complaining about it in high school? The purpose of high school is a well-rounded education because frankly not everyone has their goals set in mind like you do.

Did I mention that IQ is an extremely futile attempt to measure one's intelligence? It has no bearing on how good you will be on your homework, and frankly yes he is correct in that blanket statement (albeit not in the way he intended); it is power because it gives you the power to understand why you are doing what you are doing. It also gives you something to lean back on if your vet goals don't work out, because I know people who have gone into college with a (perceived) passion for one thing and they do something totally different because they lost that passion.

Posted by: Grey Warden Nov 11 2011, 01:58 AM

I agree homework is essential, but I honestly can't be fucked doing it. But what really pisses me off, is those people who don't do shit at school, or any homework. Yet they can turn up to any sort of test and pass with good marks.
Stupid boyfriend. He's one of those people.

Posted by: Dark Heart Nov 11 2011, 06:26 AM

QUOTE(BarkAtTheMoon @ Oct 14 2011, 04:47 AM) *
The fact is homework keeps the information fresh. You are actively using it and applying the information. Without homework, information just kinda stagnates and rots away.

Exactly what i was going to say homework is a definitely necessary.

Posted by: IndigoBlue Nov 16 2011, 01:28 AM

I think some people (even the teachers) are forgetting what homework is actually for.
It's review. That you do at home. To make sure kids remember the material.
That's freaking it.
Somehow, it's turned into some huge burden that all kids hate and despise.
I'm not blaming it all on the students. Teachers are also forgetting that homework isn't just tons of stuff for you to do just because you're entering high school or something, and high school is supposed to be stressful. It's honestly just extra practice so you can do better on the tests and actually learn something new. I used to have a teacher that gave us heaps of homework just because we were "becoming of age". The homework was pointless, and I honestly thought that the teacher was only assigning it to be more teacher-like.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 16 2011, 01:45 AM

QUOTE(Mercenary Raven @ Nov 10 2011, 08:43 PM) *
QUOTE
Calculus leaking over into Physics (whoda thunk it, right?)
Leaking over? Calculus was created because of Physics, it can't exactly leak over if it's the entire reason it exists.


Hence me saying "whoda thunk it" with a sarcastic undertone?

QUOTE(Grey Warden @ Nov 11 2011, 02:58 AM) *
I agree homework is essential, but I honestly can't be fucked doing it. But what really pisses me off, is those people who don't do shit at school, or any homework. Yet they can turn up to any sort of test and pass with good marks.
Stupid boyfriend. He's one of those people.


I'm one of those people, and it comes more from learning style than anything. I learn from participating with the subject. If there's homework that's assigned and due, that participation comes from the homework. If there isn't, I'm going to participate more with the lectures. With that said, I do have a weakness though in tests that focus heavily on the reading material. I'm going through a psych class that's like that now, but I'm doing just fine despite the first 2 weeks because I get the participation from reading the chapters before the exams. Most I'll do at school is take notes, or do homework for other classes.

Question though, exactly how much work constitutes "not doing shit" because I understand that taking notes and homework in class might not constitute as "not doing shit". How much shit we talken about that's not getting doing?

Posted by: megaarrow25 Nov 23 2011, 12:52 AM

Personally i don't mind it and it gives me a chance to stretch my brain

Posted by: Red and Gold Mar 6 2012, 07:30 PM

I spend all day sitting in a classroom, going over things for the three-thousandth time. I don't want to have to spend another 3+ hours at home working on MORE work. (and yes, I DO get that much homework.) I have a LIFE outside of school, teachers; band/music, Pokemon, writing, and *shocker* FRIENDS. I'd like to spend time with them instead of mindlessly repeating work that I already understand in my room. So, yeah, homework, for me, is pointless because I get the work. I think they (the teachers) should assign the work to students who do not understand the work!

Posted by: Velocity Mar 25 2012, 10:24 PM

Urghhh I hate doing homework, though I actually find it quite useful when it comes to final exams. I find it a lot easier to remember things if you go over it and revise. So all in all I think its necessary. Do I like it? No, but its better than failing right?

Posted by: Starships Mar 27 2012, 07:33 AM

I'm not too fond of Homework - however when it comes to revision I'll quite gladly throw away all forms of a Social Life I have. Although, I'm fond of it in a way when I don't understand it.

It gives me a chance to sit down and read over something, without having the pressure of a teacher asking me questions on something I'm unsure of. I can sit down with friends and we help each other and further develop our understanding of various subjects cat.gif

Posted by: TheOceansGuardian Mar 27 2012, 10:55 PM

Whether you think homework is useful or not, it's best you get used to it. Because the amount of homework I had in high school is absolutely nothing compared to the amount I get here in college.

My college is known for being real intense with homework, but still.

And it's done to prepare you for the real world. When you have a job and they give you things to do, you need to do them whether you like it or not. Whether it's tedious or not.

Posted by: Reyo Mar 29 2012, 02:34 PM

QUOTE(TheOceansGuardian @ Mar 27 2012, 10:55 PM) *
Whether you think homework is useful or not, it's best you get used to it. Because the amount of homework I had in high school is absolutely nothing compared to the amount I get here in college.

My college is known for being real intense with homework, but still.

And it's done to prepare you for the real world. When you have a job and they give you things to do, you need to do them whether you like it or not. Whether it's tedious or not.


A lot of it depends on the school you go to, and what classes you're going to be taking. Generally, the science classes at my school base the grade on 3-4 tests, and small bits of weekly homework (no more than 3-4 hours for that week in homework). The English and History classes are stereotypical for busywork. What I've noticed is the amount of homework you're expected to be responsible for is dependent on how required it is for everyone, and how far up the totem pole it is in your major. Core classes meant for everyone tend to have a lot of homework, while those that are specific to your major will have smaller amounts of homework. Then you get to higher level classes where your homework is this single big project worth the whole grade.

With that, though, I will say this (again, given I've said it twice already), in classes that you don't have a higher degree of skill or interest in, you want homework. Mine was History, and I was barely floating above the surface in one class based entirely on two tests and a quiz. Homework makes a good grade buffer, and tends to be a good study aid. You shouldn't automatically condemn it just because it gets in the way of your sleep, or social life. If you're going to college, school should be your main priority anyway. No one makes you go to college, or cares if you quit, not like they do for high school, which is mandated.

Posted by: Avadeya Apr 5 2012, 01:20 AM

I don't think anyone actually likes homework, and most people would rather go without. However, at my school, the teachers are very thorough in class when going over examples and things like that with us, but I know that I would rather have an hour of math homework just to be sure I understand everything that's going on so I know I can do it when it comes time for testing and exams.

Some subjects might not need as much homework as say, Mathematics, but practice makes perfect and I'd rather do homework over and over again to the point of redundancy and annoyance than come into class during an exam and have forgotten everything we learned.

Because if we didn't have homework and the teachers did their normal speeches and one/two examples per lesson/chapter, and then left us to our own devices, how can you know that it's going to stick in your head?

So, I don't know if my ramblings made any kind of sense as it's 1:18 AM, but here's my point: I'd rather waste my time and be annoyed as hell with doing homework than come to class unprepared and end up failing.

Also, a tip: Homework isn't going to go away. Suck it up and do it instead of complain about it. point.gif

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Apr 5 2012, 07:04 PM

I like homework.

Posted by: Marian Hawke Apr 6 2012, 04:16 AM

QUOTE(Mercenary Raven @ Apr 6 2012, 10:04 AM) *
I like homework.

Not sure if serious...


As said somewhere above, I do six hours of school and I am now expected to do an extra 3 when I get home? I don't think so. I have failed 4 / 6 classes in the first term because I didn't do revision questions for each subject, but I am a fucking A grade student, I never take sick days or anything, but because I refuse to do questions about shit we're already learning I fail? Screw you.

I don't care about ATAR scores or going to university, I'm joining the fucking army as soon as I can leave. How do you like them fucking apples?

Posted by: Nymatic Apr 6 2012, 12:11 PM

Well, I find homework occasionally helpful on a subject that I don't really get, as long as we go over it in class the next day. That's originally the reason why schools made it up in the first place.

But nothing's worse than going to school, and having a teacher who gives out homework to simply keep kids " out of trouble " by giving them something to work just cause they can. Or a teacher who's too lazy to make up a curriculum, and simply assigns homework to make the students do work for them.

It could do so much more in the right hands, but I feel that isn't happening.

Posted by: LuckyDarkness Apr 6 2012, 12:39 PM

Well first I would like to say homework can be useful and non-useful. Say there is a subject you dont really understand. Homework can help you figure it out. Now say there is a subject you completely understand and you spend hours re-learning that subject, then you think homework is not useful. So there you have it. Personally I think homework is sometimes useful. But I would much rather be playing on gpx, or Pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of time. Haha nuf said.

Posted by: Narcissistic Cryosphere Apr 6 2012, 12:42 PM

I personally think homework could be useful, but when it's something that takes hours to do, it shouldn't happen. People get enough of school at school. When you get home, you don't want to spend an extra two or three hours working on something you understand already.

I actually wouldn't mind school if there was a reasonable amount of homework, but when you spend an hour on reading and shit, that's just a little overboard. That's what I think is wrong with teachers these days; they assign homework freely without thinking of other assignments students must do, or if the students want free time to hang out.

Posted by: LuckyDarkness Apr 6 2012, 12:46 PM

QUOTE(Narcissistic Cryosphere @ Apr 6 2012, 01:42 PM) *
I personally think homework could be useful, but when it's something that takes hours to do, it shouldn't happen. People get enough of school at school. When you get home, you don't want to spend an extra two or three hours working on something you understand already.

I actually wouldn't mind school if there was a reasonable amount of homework, but when you spend an hour on reading and shit, that's just a little overboard. That's what I think is wrong with teachers these days; they assign homework freely without thinking of other assignments students must do, or if the students want free time to hang out.


Completely agree.

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Apr 7 2012, 12:20 AM

QUOTE(Marian Hawke @ Apr 6 2012, 05:16 AM) *
QUOTE(Mercenary Raven @ Apr 6 2012, 10:04 AM) *
I like homework.

Not sure if serious...

No I'm serious, some of the stuff I do in homework is mind-blowing. It's hard to want to do it sometimes (well, a lot) this semester, but during semesters where I have more free time I absolutely love my homework because of how interesting some of the problems tend to get in my major.

Posted by: purple umbreon Apr 7 2012, 06:16 AM

I hate homework but I think its usefull.
But I often make homework on the train and the bus so I dont mind that much.

Posted by: Zombie Zekrom Apr 9 2012, 12:28 AM

I think homework is useful when there's a reasonable amount. By 'reasonable', I mean 10-15 questions at most from each chapter or section for a grade, depending on the subject matter; if some people want/need to do extra practice problems to make sure they understand the material, then by all means go ahead and do it. I don't mind sitting down and doing a few problems/questions as long as it doesn't take me a long time (like an hour or two) to fully answer one question. It's even worse if I spend so much time focusing on one problem that takes a while to finish only to figure out I got the answer wrong, especially in something like math or chemistry.

Then again, all my classes are online, so I guess technically everything I do for them is homework... o3o.gif

Posted by: Marian Hawke Apr 9 2012, 06:13 AM

QUOTE(Mercenary Raven @ Apr 7 2012, 03:20 PM) *
QUOTE(Marian Hawke @ Apr 6 2012, 05:16 AM) *
QUOTE(Mercenary Raven @ Apr 6 2012, 10:04 AM) *
I like homework.

Not sure if serious...

No I'm serious, some of the stuff I do in homework is mind-blowing. It's hard to want to do it sometimes (well, a lot) this semester, but during semesters where I have more free time I absolutely love my homework because of how interesting some of the problems tend to get in my major.

I guess when you find something you're interested in, all the work is worth it. You're lucky, not many people have what you have and I can honestly say I'm quite jealous.

Posted by: torchie Apr 9 2012, 09:22 AM

Homework... I'm neutral, to be honest. I mean, homework for some classes, it's easy, and so it's easy grades for me. However, for those longer ones, like essays and practice quizzes, are just... :/ Essays, yeah, they're really needed to help me learn how to research and see how it applies in the real world. However... I sometimes think more than one essay in a quarter (I live in the US, and I'm in high school) is just useless... One is enough per quarter, I think sad.gif

Posted by: NiteFrites Apr 11 2012, 09:45 AM

I'd say both. Homework is a consumption of time, yet it prepares a person for what is yet to come, and it helps a person practice what the've learned.

Posted by: Team Ultra Boss Apr 29 2012, 07:40 PM

It depends on your school hours, when you come & exit the school, how many days a week, & how many days a year.
Some are having school year-round, so that is enough work for them and they should not be doing homework.
People like me, who have it Monday-Friday 8:10 A.M.-3:15 P.M., should have homework... I don't like it, but I think it's esential for life preperation.

Posted by: sinx May 16 2012, 01:52 PM

I liked homework, gave me a chance to test my knowledge.

Posted by: Dreams91 May 17 2012, 10:09 AM

I think homework has a point it's to keep you going to make you work hard even out of school hours.
You think homework is hard or useless well once your out of school life my bite you in the butt.
Think if you go to college you will have a lot to do in your own time i feel homework is to have you always ready for working at home, i used to enjoy homework i liek doing things in my own time rather than in school no distractions.

Posted by: Spritecheat14 Jan 9 2013, 08:58 PM

Dreams91 has a great point. I am in 8th grade and trust me; English homework is a PAIN! I see it as this: If you don't do your work now, when in your life will you do it? It's getting you ready for the real workplace.

Posted by: xXxTheUnknownxXx Jan 14 2013, 03:38 AM

All right,schoolwork are useful..they can be used/referred as notes thus helping the student who doesn't understand a topic.
Saying a schoolwork useless is rather rude..please try to use more subtle words

Posted by: ShiroMint Jan 22 2013, 02:52 AM

Wait, what?

I think SOME homework is completely necessary. I mean... it'd make more sense if it were more selective...

But, honestly, I think homework is great practice for learning the material in the class being taught. Without homework, I'm sure I would've flunked Japanese and French. But... to have homework for something like Home Economics? Where I had to research, make, and bring in some food that I've never had before to be graded? That was a little... unnecessary, at least for me.

Then, you have to take into account that teachers are also "graded" on how well they've taught. So, they HAVE to assign papers to be written, and the like, to prove that they taught material in a way that the students understand. Their assessments reflect this every year and homework also prepares students so the teacher looks good, too.

Besides, doing a little assignment later at night helps you remember the material better. Some of that stuff really is quite useful in the real world.

Posted by: Zer0hundred Feb 27 2013, 01:23 AM

Home work CAN be usefull, but not when its an incredably simple subject..
I think they really should be more selective when giving homework, its REALY annoying getting homework on something so simple it should already be known by a 3rd grader. what i REALLY hate is homeowork that can be done in a matter of seconds, because that means that all of those seconds were wasted, and the paper was a waste of trees and the writing it was a waste of graphite from my pencil or a waste of ink from my pen.
Its twice as annoying when teachers dont give homework on a subject that they dont spend ANY time in class on and expect us to know for a test. yet whatever a teacher does in class they pile up the homework on it, but when its important they never give HW on it and i end up having to probe deep into my long term memory just to answer a Lv 1 question that should just be a simple recall.
It just so happens that the teachers spends 3 days on pretty much the same thing that has about 1 or 2 questions on the 50 question quiz, but then all the other subjects get less than 10 mins of class time, and guess what ALL the homework is? you guessed it, its ALL about the subject we already spent days on.
It gets really aggrivating sometimes, when we also spend days on one basic subject, then later on the teacher whines about not having enough time for anything. Tbh, i really missed good teachers who actually gave homework on subjects that actually were worth reinforcing, if it is really worth reinforcing, i think the homework might actually help, but if its not, then why even waste the time, money, and effort on it?

Posted by: Yuno Gasai Mar 7 2013, 10:33 AM

Basically I agree with what everyone else said about homework being necessary, but I want to add that it is good preparation for if you go into further education (depending on what exactly) a LOT of work you do will be done independently. And I guess the same could be applied to a lot of jobs, a fair amount of them don't stop just because it's 3 o'clock. Eg. Teachers (who actually DO have "homework") have to mark students work/write assesments/plan lessons etc.

Posted by: Meenah Mar 9 2013, 04:10 PM

I think it depends on how much you struggle during class or how high the difficulty of the class is. For example, I think homework for a second language is absolutely mandatory, since it takes several tries before remembering the words by heart. It really depends on the person and the class.

Posted by: ShinyCaterpie Apr 2 2013, 03:46 PM

Useless. Going to school every day for 7 hours each day should be enough to get through the tests.

Posted by: Celeste2002 Sep 20 2013, 02:19 AM

I think homework is not completely useless, but it leaves us less free time to read or study for tests or relax, but it can help us to memorize things.

Posted by: x Pumpkin Oct 8 2013, 12:24 PM

It depends on the student and their learning style.
For me, personally, even though I hate doing work when I get home, homework helps me a lot.
Sometimes I won't understand something in class, but when I go home and try to figure it out for myself with homework I'll understand. If I never had that homework, it wouldn't force me to try and learn it for myself.

Posted by: King of the Eevees Feb 1 2014, 08:15 PM

I myself hate homework*, but that's still no reason for it to be pointless. I find it to be a useful, if not sometimes unreliable, way to make students get their homework done. Especially when the teacher adds some sort of motivation, such as "I'll give anyone who gets their homework done on time a candy" or something of that kind.


*That might just be because I never get it, and I'm always irritated when I actually get it.

Posted by: Irisamena Feb 3 2014, 12:15 PM

Personally, I believe that homework is useful to a point. Some teachers overdo it by not giving you enough time to finish it. (For example, reading thirty pages in one night. That is working someone too hard, especially considering that they have had to slave over the same material during the school day.)

But if used in moderation, homework can be a helpful tool, especially if you need practice on the material.

Posted by: zorua9 Feb 11 2014, 06:18 PM

I think homework has usefulness, but it is very stressful, and if you don't complete you get extra work or detention :/, if it was easy homework or something i enjoyed then i would do it but it would still be a bit stressful....

Posted by: Historia Reiss Feb 15 2014, 12:10 AM

I feel like homework is often necessary to properly learn all that you need to learn for a class. From what my teachers have said, it seems like teachers struggle a lot with fitting the entire curriculum for their class in one semester, so homework lets us get work done that we didn't have enough time for in the allotted class time.

Homework also prepares you a lot for college, and even beyond that. From my experience with my college classes so far (I'm still in high school, so I'm only taking a couple), a lot of the work done, as well as reading from the textbook, is done outside of class, while class time is spent listening to lectures.

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