Harry Potter: Anti-Religious, or just Magical?, Come here to debate! |
Apr 12 2011, 04:51 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: +Donors Posts: 65 Joined: 20-March 10 From: Wisconsin, U.S.A. Member No.: 89 717 My Dream Team |
Harry Potter is one of the biggest controversial topics in literature. There are many different opinions on the magical world, and how it relates to our world.
Some people believe that reading the Harry Potter books to children, or having your child read them may persuade them to turn to Witchcraft and the occult for more. Parents may not want their children to grow up anti-Christian. They also attempt to make the point that Harry Potter is "anti-Christian" because it blurrs the line between good and evil. Yes, Voldemort is evil and dies in the end, but Harry has to break rules and laws to do it. This may lead children to do uncertain things to get what they want and what they believe to be defeating evil. Apparently, the Harry Potter books support the religion of Wiccans, because there is magic. Other groups of people argue that Harry Potter cannot be anti-Christian because there is no faith in the stories. Hogwarts students do celebrate Christmas, Holloween and Easter, but nowhere in the books is Christ mentioned. Also, other stories have used such magic to create their fantasy worlds, such as J.R.R. Tolkien in the Lord of the Rings, but his books are not slandered as such. The magic in Harry Potter is more of a fantasy-world than Wiccan. So, where do you stand? I'm going to keep the discussion open. Personally, I'm one of the biggest Harry Potter fans that you'll even talk to. In my mind, J.K Rowling can write no wrong(except for when she killed Fred...). But hey, I'm biased. |
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Apr 12 2011, 05:06 PM
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Romantic Misanthropist Group: +Donors Posts: 129 Joined: 14-June 09 From: Florida, USA. Member No.: 34 260 Legend League |
I'm a Christian and I love Harry Potter (I've actually been a Harry Potter fan longer than I've been a Christian xD). Anyways, I can see where people would argue that it contains occult influences, but I can't really see it causing kids to turn to the occult (any more than watching anime will convert someone to shinto-buddhism). So I mean, I guess it just comes down to what parents are comfortable having their kids watch/read.
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Apr 12 2011, 05:52 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
I personally think that certain people just want to whore attention so they go against what's popular to do so. It's stupid but they do get the attention they want.
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Apr 12 2011, 05:56 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 6-April 11 From: Italy Member No.: 137 114 Active Squad |
This is new O.O, this is a big load of b.......t,the church its just afraid that theyr gone lose more ppl to the ocult and so on.I my self dont belive in magic but that dies not mean i have to against every idiot that belives in it
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Apr 12 2011, 07:16 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 10-March 11 From: Westport, CT Member No.: 134 427 Active Squad |
This is silly. It's like reading To Kill A Mockingbird and thinking your child will be a rapist.
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Apr 13 2011, 06:44 AM
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Feel the Fire, Break your Vision Group: +Donors Posts: 65 Joined: 12-October 09 From: Australia Member No.: 68 079 Favourite Pokemon |
All a bunch of hogwash. There are more religious elements in Toaru Majutsu no Index than Harry Potter.
It's magic and mythology. People need to stop reading into things that don't exist. -------------------- |
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Apr 15 2011, 03:51 AM
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not really a dog Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: 29-April 09 Member No.: 17 244 Active Squad |
argggh god only in a America
you hear loads of stuff like pokemon is the work of satan, harry potter is anti christian, burn the koraan!!!! that never happens in England... O_O (its prolly because the English and Irish left for America around the time when our monarchs kept changing the country's religion while everyone here was being forced from protestant to catholic and and back and fourth of face death, so they weren't really bothered in their views and more bothered in their lives while the americans set up towns and stuff with their own beliefs..... *phew*) -------------------- |
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Apr 15 2011, 06:55 AM
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I just hate people who say that Harry Potter is brainwashing every kid who reads it. I've read all of the books and am a really big fan of it, and I've never seen anything, well, bad... or anti-Christian.
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Apr 15 2011, 09:27 PM
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Gym Leader Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 31-December 10 From: somewhere Member No.: 125 915 hg team |
im a religous person but i like harry potter there is nothing wrong with it
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Apr 16 2011, 01:56 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 8-September 09 From: US Member No.: 62 228 Active Squad |
It's not like the books are trying to be anti-religious. They're just set in a world of magic and fantasy or whatever and they aren't 'bad' or 'wrong.' In my opinion, anyway... xD
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Apr 18 2011, 05:36 PM
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what would you do for a Klondike bar? Group: +Donors Posts: 206 Joined: 18-May 09 From: U.S.A Member No.: 24 628 Pokemon Pearl |
see if your afraid your children will turn around and try to be a witch wizard break rules and so fourth dont let your kids read it i dont see it as a children's book series at all there is too much older humor and alot of depressing things like sirus's death in the 5th book and well the WHOLE 7TH BOOK
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Apr 27 2011, 05:30 PM
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The Champion of Sinnoh~ Group: +Donors Posts: 394 Joined: 7-May 10 From: Ireland Member No.: 95 714 My Favourites~ |
Say what? What an odd idea, I personally have never heard anyone mention this sort of theory before now, nor did the thought cross my mind before now. Interesting, nevertheless. These are fictional books, just because they contain magic and good writing doesn't make them anti-religious. I am against the theory of God personally, but not because of these books.
You'd have to be VERY imaginative, or mature to get that from the books, and then you wouldn't go off fighting "evil", like your brother/sister/etc. The worst that could happen is that you'd wave a stick around, roaring "magic spells" at people. This post has been edited by Wingcap: Apr 27 2011, 05:30 PM -------------------- [Me][My Bro] (click to show ) Nintendo 3DS FC: 3024-6524-0103|NNID: Wingcap|Steam: Wingcapx pretty much everything credit Cycloneblaze, except the egg |
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Apr 28 2011, 02:07 PM
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She's sexy and I know it~ Group: Posts: 1 935 Joined: 3-June 09 From: Deinoland Member No.: 30 189 Add fifth gen, please |
I feel that Harry Potter is just a book series and not a cult-starter shit. Whoever started that rumor is going to warm their fucking toes when they die. )<
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Apr 29 2011, 11:11 AM
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I hear this debate all the time throughout classes and religion based studies. It's beating a dead horse and no one necessarily cares anymore until the next big fantasy movie comes up (Remember the protests for The Golden Compass/Northern Lights and all of Philip Pullman novels and movies based on his work? I remember those protests.).
It all is up for personal interpretation; if your religion says so and you're dedicated to your religion and believe it'll cause witchcraft, then hot-damn it'll cause people to turn to witchcraft. If not, then oh well you're safe and continue reading as you desire. It's not that one way is wrong nor is one way right. You really have to look at this from a perspective of how influential the books can be on people with obsessive personalities rather than religion (even though that's the topic, but one thing relates to another). Not from a witchcraft standpoint, but more from a persons obsession over something. Memorabilia is one thing, dressing up is another, but killing yourself over the fact that someone released a fake script of the final book where the entire cast dies is another (yes, this is true. It happened. Look it up, I'm not linking it here because of underage people out and about on the boards.). -------------------- ~*~*~ My DeviantArt Page: DizzyClockwork ~*~*~ Commissions: Closed Requests: Sorry, not taking requests right now. Gifts: When I have the time. |
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Apr 30 2011, 12:28 PM
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Veteran Group: +Donors Posts: 1 613 Joined: 29-July 08 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba Member No.: 2 482 Active Squad |
Regardless of what it is or isn't, it's completely harmless. There is no problem here.
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May 15 2011, 11:28 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 13-April 11 Member No.: 138 010 Active Squad |
Never heard something like that.It's only a fantasy story, and nothing anti-christian.
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May 17 2011, 01:50 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: +Donors Posts: 17 Joined: 22-April 09 From: New York, NY Member No.: 14 554 Best team ever. |
Anyone afraid of bad morals and lessons in Harry Potter affecting their kids obviously doesn't trust their children very much. In real life there is rarely "good" or "evil". Every story has two sides, and there's often a gray area of morality within. Although really Harry Potter has villains with names like "Malfoy" and "Lucious" which basically scream "I'm evil "
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May 28 2011, 08:39 AM
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I'm a christian and I abosolutely ADORE the Harry Potter books and see no fault in them whatsoever. I was brought up with them and dont understand how they can have any affect on peoples spirituality or lack of. The reason christ is never mentioned is probably not to disrcriminate or just because JK Rowling didnt think of putting it in there. There are so many books in the world and I bet that over half dont have any religion in them whatsoever. If it wasnt so successful, people wouldnt be asking about it. It's just jealousy or a need for them to blame someone else for something that went wrong.
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May 28 2011, 02:02 PM
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"Things are serious. A man in a dress is dead." Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 21-December 09 From: Godric's Hollow Member No.: 77 244 Wakedawn |
If these people actually read the series, they would know that Harry Potter's main theme is love (Lily's love for Harry, Snape's love for Lily, the trio's love for each other, Harry's love for the Wizarding World, etc.) and how it can overcome even the most potent forces of evil.
That doesn't sound very satanic to me. Just saying. -------------------- -
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May 30 2011, 05:05 AM
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I don't think that it leads readers to wrong path...
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