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Feb 23 2011, 08:14 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Newbies Posts: 0 Joined: 29-June 10 Member No.: 103 032 Active Squad |
I don't know if this is slicing the categories to thin but I would like if their were, Competitive and Training battles in the Tower.
It really sucks when you get paired up with someone who has all legends at top level and you've just got Pokemon under ten or something. Those people are just doing it for the fun of killing everything in their path or for the money and your just trying to train some weak Pokemon. Just they kill all your Pokemon, you don't even get a hit out and no points or EXP. So I think we should have Competitive battles, where people make the best team possible and battle either for money or glory. It's actually a challenge for them and no poor sucker gets wasted when he brings a Pichu to a Palkia fight. Training battles are just for people who are leveling. It would just be a quick check like the rest of the choices. This would be nice yes? |
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Feb 23 2011, 08:28 PM
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Poliwag Awesome Dude Group: +Donors Posts: 138 Joined: 29-April 09 From: Ruling the world with Poliwag~ Member No.: 17 353 Poliwag! |
They already stated that battles aren't meant for EXP alone (even though mine in the 1-25s are doing that, kind of), so this probably won't go into effect. There's plenty of other ways to level your Pokemon.
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Feb 23 2011, 08:41 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Newbies Posts: 0 Joined: 29-June 10 Member No.: 103 032 Active Squad |
They already stated that battles aren't meant for EXP alone (even though mine in the 1-25s are doing that, kind of), so this probably won't go into effect. There's plenty of other ways to level your Pokemon. Everyone uses the battle system to train. Well everyone that I know. o.O I just thought this would be easier for everyone to separate the people who are training and the people who are competitively doing it. |
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Feb 24 2011, 01:20 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 2-August 09 From: Russia Member No.: 53 215 Straj |
What "legends" are you talking about? All fully evolved pokemon have same stat total with the exception of arceus.
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Feb 24 2011, 01:27 AM
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∞^∞ Group: +Donors Posts: 53 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Scranton, PA Member No.: 26 Active Squad |
What "legends" are you talking about? All fully evolved pokemon have same stat total with the exception of arceus. This. All final stage Pokémon (besides Arceus) have stat totals of 600. I have no legendary Pokémon on my teams and I've still beaten a couple people who had teams of half legends. -------------------- |
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Feb 24 2011, 01:32 AM
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Humble Soldier Group: +Donors Posts: 682 Joined: 3-July 09 From: Cyberspace Member No.: 41 986 The Brigade |
To add onto what's been said, if you're just using the Battle Tower to train, then yeah you're gonna get frustrated with legends, since first forms are weaker than evolved/one form Pokemon. Try having at least two fully evolved/one form Pokemon in your party, you'll do better.
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Feb 24 2011, 10:31 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Newbies Posts: 0 Joined: 29-June 10 Member No.: 103 032 Active Squad |
To add onto what's been said, if you're just using the Battle Tower to train, then yeah you're gonna get frustrated with legends, since first forms are weaker than evolved/one form Pokemon. Try having at least two fully evolved/one form Pokemon in your party, you'll do better. I'm not doing this because this has happened to me, I keep three evolved Dragon types in my party I do just fine. I'm doing this for my friends who are new to the site and don't have any evolved Pokemon yet. It just isn't fair when you get stuck with someone who's doing this competitively or is money raising. All I'm saying is you have little to no hope of winning or getting anything from the battle. Edit: Also everyone just seems to be attacking what I said. Not really the idea. Does anyone have any REAL criticism about the idea or not? o.o |
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Feb 24 2011, 11:05 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: +Donors Posts: 8 Joined: 18-September 09 From: NY Member No.: 63 846 Active Squad |
Edit: Also everyone just seems to be attacking what I said. Not really the idea. Does anyone have any REAL criticism about the idea or not? o.o You're interpreting it as attacking because it's against the idea, but some of it sounded like legit criticism to me, like the bits about legendaries not having any extra added effect like you had implied. To me, it also just sounds too unrealistic to implement. What if someone still wants to use it to train (rather than compete) but is still way better than you? What if I have 6 pokemon at level 24 and I figure I'll try to get them all to level 25 at once, so I enter them in the 1-25 category and get paired against someone with 6 un-evolved pokemon all around level 5? I don't see how making a "training" category will actually stop this from occurring, because people still train pokemon at all different levels? Just my opinion. And yes, it's just intended as honest criticism :P |
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Feb 24 2011, 11:17 AM
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am keeping an eye on you... Group: Posts: 55 Joined: 17-August 09 From: India Member No.: 57 548 can u beat this???? |
well initially i liked the idea.....
and i agree that there should be two different categories that is untill i read the last post..... but yeah we could have a different category for glory n pride....(where u get more points on winning) if this be done then i guess we will not have to face such problems..... thats my point of view only though...... -------------------- |
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Feb 24 2011, 12:28 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Newbies Posts: 0 Joined: 29-June 10 Member No.: 103 032 Active Squad |
Edit: Also everyone just seems to be attacking what I said. Not really the idea. Does anyone have any REAL criticism about the idea or not? o.o You're interpreting it as attacking because it's against the idea, but some of it sounded like legit criticism to me, like the bits about legendaries not having any extra added effect like you had implied. To me, it also just sounds too unrealistic to implement. What if someone still wants to use it to train (rather than compete) but is still way better than you? What if I have 6 pokemon at level 24 and I figure I'll try to get them all to level 25 at once, so I enter them in the 1-25 category and get paired against someone with 6 un-evolved pokemon all around level 5? I don't see how making a "training" category will actually stop this from occurring, because people still train pokemon at all different levels? Just my opinion. And yes, it's just intended as honest criticism :P Not really, most of it was random attacking but whatever. But thank you for some actual criticism. Match ups like that will still probably happen, it's inevitable with any kind of battle system structured this way (random match ups to set levels), but probably they'd be less likely to happen of the glory takers were separated from the training newbies. It's still gonna happen, with this current battle system it will always happen, this would just help level it out a bit. |
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Feb 24 2011, 04:48 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 14-May 09 Member No.: 22 839 Active Squad |
Just because people agree with you it doesn't mean they are having a go at you they are entitled to their opinions just like you are. I don't see point in this because you normally gain some points and expirence even when you lose and I agree with the last person who posted who said there will be people who have higher leveled pokemon and still want to just train them who will beat you still.
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Feb 24 2011, 06:51 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Newbies Posts: 0 Joined: 29-June 10 Member No.: 103 032 Active Squad |
I don't see point in this because you normally gain some points and expirence even when you lose and I agree with the last person who posted who said there will be people who have higher leveled pokemon and still want to just train them who will beat you still. Only if you KO a Pokemon. If you don't you get nothing, like in the games. And most people when their winning will switch out a Pokemon in the red. |
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Feb 24 2011, 09:03 PM
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Feeling the aster. Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 12-February 11 From: NJ Member No.: 131 319 These Are Adorable~ |
Instead of having a competitive and training category, why not just make the option to not have a legend in the battle, instead? Then anyone whose one of their 6 pokemon in the level range you picked has a legend, you wouldn't battle them, and if the person had 7 in the level range but one was a legend, they couldn't use it.
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Feb 24 2011, 09:15 PM
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Watching YOU Group: Root Administrators Posts: 1 850 Joined: 11-June 07 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 1 Active Squad |
Maybe because there's no advantage to using a legend in the first place, yup yup?
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Feb 24 2011, 09:28 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 2-January 11 Member No.: 126 253 Active Squad |
It just isn't fair when you get stuck with someone who's doing this competitively or is money raising. All I'm saying is you have little to no hope of winning or getting anything from the battle. then dont go in with a bunch of mudkipz expecting to beat teams of fully evolved pokemon. other then that a lvl 1 zangoose is the same as a lvl 25. the only thing making you loose is your inability to bring fully evolved pokemon into the match . there is no such thing as an "unfair advantage" in the battle tower. you bring a team of 6 first stagers, expect to loose to someone who didnt. -------------------- |
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Feb 24 2011, 10:23 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: +Donors Posts: 8 Joined: 18-September 09 From: NY Member No.: 63 846 Active Squad |
It just isn't fair when you get stuck with someone who's doing this competitively or is money raising. All I'm saying is you have little to no hope of winning or getting anything from the battle. then dont go in with a bunch of mudkipz expecting to beat teams of fully evolved pokemon. other then that a lvl 1 zangoose is the same as a lvl 25. the only thing making you loose is your inability to bring fully evolved pokemon into the match . there is no such thing as an "unfair advantage" in the battle tower. you bring a team of 6 first stagers, expect to loose to someone who didnt. *headdesks* I just realized how little sense my last post made because I wasn't thinking when I wrote it. I forgot at the time that, for example, all pokemon level 1-25 have the same base stats, so in my example, the person with all the level 24 pokemon would only have an advantage if they were evolved forms instead of unevolved forms compared to the lower levels. Which, in turn, kind of makes this whole original suggestion still not make much sense to me. Since you can only battle within your level bracket, and since all pokemon in that level bracket have the same advantage, exactly HOW does being pitted against someone who is "doing this competitively or money raising" actually worsen your chances in battle.... at all? Their pokemon should be on even ground with yours, in terms of base stats? Because you're in the same level bracket? Their reason for battling doesn't magically make their pokemon better than yours. I agree with Chipou o_o |
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Feb 24 2011, 11:34 PM
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∞^∞ Group: +Donors Posts: 53 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Scranton, PA Member No.: 26 Active Squad |
Maybe a better suggestion would be to have an option to only allow "basic" Pokémon in a battle.
By "basic" I mean Pokémon that only have a 300 Base Stat total. And along those lines, add a "mid" Pokémon option, one with only those with a 450 Base Stat total. -------------------- |
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Feb 25 2011, 09:12 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Newbies Posts: 0 Joined: 29-June 10 Member No.: 103 032 Active Squad |
I kind of like Fensti's idea.
But it seems a little.. much? I don't know actually how to describe it. Then please explain to me why my level ten electric type got killz'd by a level 25 water type when I was using the strongest attacks. The other guy also got no critical hits. I did get him in the orange at least. |
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Feb 25 2011, 01:14 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 18-July 09 Member No.: 47 873 Can't Touch This |
I kind of like Fensti's idea. But it seems a little.. much? I don't know actually how to describe it. Then please explain to me why my level ten electric type got killz'd by a level 25 water type when I was using the strongest attacks. The other guy also got no critical hits. I did get him in the orange at least. Did his water type happen to be water/ground typed? Because that would explain everything, with a type advantage over you. -------------------- |
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Feb 25 2011, 01:16 PM
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That one laughing Giraffe Group: +Donors Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 09 From: London, ON Member No.: 66 646 Active Squad |
I kind of like Fensti's idea. But it seems a little.. much? I don't know actually how to describe it. Then please explain to me why my level ten electric type got killz'd by a level 25 water type when I was using the strongest attacks. The other guy also got no critical hits. I did get him in the orange at least. Did his water type happen to be water/ground typed? Because that would explain everything, with a type advantage over you. and it could also be possible (with the water/ground type thing) even if it wasn't; that maybe said pokemon just had better ev's then your electric, those ev's go a pretty long way -------------------- [align=center]The help page has loads of useful information!
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