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Dalek Omega
post Aug 4 2010, 01:02 PM
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What if instead of the daycare activity being stopped if there are unclaimed eggs waiting for the GPX+ user to claim or donate, if the Daycare added the eggs from a current batch run (assuming eggs are produced) to the existing eggs for the GPX+ user to be able to claim from? The GPX+ user would still only be able to claim one eggs & the rest would go to the daycare as per normal.

To prevent having an extremely large number of eggs to choose from (especially if the person is offline at the time or clicking through an online list & doesn't have the party room to claim an egg), the Daycare could be capped at a larger number (like say 30).

This would be extremely helpful on Critical Mass, 2x, and 3x days when the number of shelter grabs is increased. I'm sure many people like me noticed that there were times when there were less than 20 species in the egg section of the shelter. With the increase in experience gains, eggs hatch faster & people who are looking for eggs will be looking more toward the shelter & lab to supply their needs.

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post Aug 4 2010, 01:08 PM
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I wouldn't like this.
As first, when people like me take daycare eggs while shiny hunting, there would be a much higher chance you'll miss your shiny. Also, I wouldn't like my Daycare to get flooded with eggs, like it was on Shiny Swinub event.
But I agree that could be an option for CM days only. And maybe have the option in the settings tab whether you want or not want to include this ability. Yes, I would be for it in that case.


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post Aug 4 2010, 01:24 PM
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This may seem selfish. I wouldn't like this either...being a shiny hunter n' all. I'm paranoid enough about not getting the shiny :T

Especially once I start breeding Beldum and Lunatone . Those are hard enough to find in the shelter. If I miss out on the shiny in my daycare, I may as well give up on getting said shiny :/

Also, on critical mass days, 3 or 4 eggs (rather than 2 or 3) are usually produced it seems. So that's kinda helpful.

A reason why I take out my breeding pair on CM days >___>.



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post Aug 4 2010, 02:57 PM
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I too don't know how useful this would be.


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post Aug 4 2010, 09:25 PM
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I would hate this. I breed novelties to hope one hatches shiny. If I missed it 'cause of multi novelties.... *rage*


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post Aug 5 2010, 09:16 AM
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Like all of you, since the site wide shiny hunt, I've started shiny hunting. While I have bred a couple of shiny eggs that I didn't pick when I had the chance (I guessed wrong), I think that the chance that I would breed a shiny and not grab it would be more than offset by the chance that someone else would breed a shiny that I did grab.

I could see it being restricted to only multiplier days. Especially since the multiplier affects the number of shelter grabs everyone gets (whether they have shelter passes or not).


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post Aug 5 2010, 12:47 PM
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You guys are being selfish, think of the newbies. This would would make novelties a lot easier to get if you could drop 10 at a time.


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post Aug 5 2010, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(WaterUser @ Aug 5 2010, 01:47 PM) *
You guys are being selfish, think of the newbies. This would would make novelties a lot easier to get if you could drop 10 at a time.


We were all newbies too. And we had to "work hard' so to speak to get novelties. The newer newbies can do the same in my opinion :/

Plus, novelties are called "novelties" for a reason. They aren't /supposed/ to be easy to get.

Also, with novelties, there's a limit. If you are shiny hunting a novelty and it keeps producing multiple novelties at once...the chances of you ever getting a shiny novelty is slim to none.

Plus, 90-95% of novelty breeders drop their non-shinies. It's not like most of us are hoarding them -____-

If this were implemented and affected novelty shiny hunting..I'd be pissed beyond belief.

This is like taking anti-hoarding to the extreme level. It would affect even non-hoards adversely >___>


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post Aug 5 2010, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(WaterUser @ Aug 5 2010, 01:47 PM) *
You guys are being selfish, think of the newbies. This would would make novelties a lot easier to get if you could drop 10 at a time.

The daycare doesn't exactly spit out novelties every time a pair breeds. Do you realize the chances of breeding a novelty and getting only novelty eggs every time to drop 10 at once? It wouldn't work like that...
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post Aug 5 2010, 02:29 PM
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You you realize that if everyone breed double the amount of eggs, then the double amount of shiny eggs would land in the shelter?

Yeah sure you don't wanna miss the shiny you bred, but you can only pick 1 egg at a time, so there is always a chance. Actually I missed 2 shiny beldums from my pair, but I was prepared for that.

Also you are missing the point here, the shelter running out of eggs on the x2 day we had. Which was because the daycare oddly didn't produce double the amount of eggs.

By the way, it's only possible the hatch 1 egg bred by you every hour, unless you save the eggs until a later point, but still 1 egg per hour. On ther other hand, you will most likely be hatching 5 or more other eggs during the same hour.

Seriously, I want the eggs that I hunt in the shelter, so I can hatch more than 1 per hour.

On the novelty end, more eggs being produces means that you will breed a novelty more times, and if they breed 2 at the same time DEAL WITH IT, your chances are the same as when breeding 1.

To put it simple, breeding more eggs at the same time does NOT give you a LOWER chance you getting a shiny.


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post Aug 5 2010, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(Viciously Rotten @ Aug 5 2010, 12:58 PM) *
Plus, novelties are called "novelties" for a reason. They aren't /supposed/ to be easy to get.

Also, with novelties, there's a limit. If you are shiny hunting a novelty and it keeps producing multiple novelties at once...the chances of you ever getting a shiny novelty is slim to none.


To quote Commander Wymsy:
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I would think that anyone who was shiny hunting a novelty would want to have the option of grabbing more in the shelter (especially when it comes to Bidofo & DracoWymsy eggs which have a higher "hoarding limit" on them). With the inclusion of the Heart Scales into the mix & the way the limits count as long as you have the Heart Scales, you should be able to grab & release any non-shiny novelty you come across and still be able to grab another couple of eggs from the shelter on the same day. When it comes to Bidofo, since the eggs look the same, the chances of you grabbing a regular Bidoof are 50/50 no matter what egg you choose in your daycare (assuming that there is a Bidofo produced in the run).

Of course, shiny hunting a non-novelty would become much easier as you can get what feels like an unlimited number of eggs to hatch depending on the new shelter grab limits, which the way I click I have not come near to using up on any day (Today, I'm at 23 eggs taken of a total allowed of 71).

Having more eggs in the shelter for whatever non-novelty you are shiny hunting is a winning proposition for you.


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post Aug 6 2010, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Dalek Omega @ Aug 5 2010, 05:49 PM) *
I would think that anyone who was shiny hunting a novelty would want to have the option of grabbing more in the shelter (especially when it comes to Bidofo & DracoWymsy eggs which have a higher "hoarding limit" on them). With the inclusion of the Heart Scales into the mix & the way the limits count as long as you have the Heart Scales, you should be able to grab & release any non-shiny novelty you come across and still be able to grab another couple of eggs from the shelter on the same day. When it comes to Bidofo, since the eggs look the same, the chances of you grabbing a regular Bidoof are 50/50 no matter what egg you choose in your daycare (assuming that there is a Bidofo produced in the run).

Of course, shiny hunting a non-novelty would become much easier as you can get what feels like an unlimited number of eggs to hatch depending on the new shelter grab limits, which the way I click I have not come near to using up on any day (Today, I'm at 23 eggs taken of a total allowed of 71).

Having more eggs in the shelter for whatever non-novelty you are shiny hunting is a winning proposition for you.


Okay, first..let's hope this message/post goes through for my comp is malfunctioning a bit xD

Secondly, I need you to verify something. The bolded part of your quote. The rest doesn't matter to me at the moment. It's the novelty stuff that would win me over to this suggestion xD
So..you are saying if I were to abandon a novelty I got from the shelter, I could get another one, despite having already gotten 2 from the shelter before (despite just abandoning one). Hopefully this made sense for I'm tired and confused right now xD.

For example, I have 6 dracowymsy from the shelter (that's the limit). If I abandon one, I could get another one?

I'm so confused right now .___.


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post Aug 6 2010, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(Tequila Mockingbird @ Aug 6 2010, 10:32 AM) *
Secondly, I need you to verify something. The bolded part of your quote. The rest doesn't matter to me at the moment. It's the novelty stuff that would win me over to this suggestion xD
So..you are saying if I were to abandon a novelty I got from the shelter, I could get another one, despite having already gotten 2 from the shelter before (despite just abandoning one). Hopefully this made sense for I'm tired and confused right now xD.

For example, I have 6 dracowymsy from the shelter (that's the limit). If I abandon one, I could get another one?

I'm so confused right now .___.


That is exactly what I am saying. If you abandon one that you picked from the shelter, you can get another from the shelter.

To quote Pokii on the Novelty/Legendary Limit thread (which uses Winter Vulpix in the example) :
QUOTE(Pokii @ Feb 25 2010, 07:04 PM) *
QUOTE(Tsunake @ Feb 25 2010, 05:07 PM)

I want a male Winter Vulpix, but have a female. If I breed the female until I get a male, then abandon the female (to find another so I have a breeding pair), would I be unable to, because technically I'd already have owned two of that species?


It doesn't count ones you've previously owned, just how many you have. So if you bred a male and abandoned its mother, you could find another one in the Shelter.




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post Aug 6 2010, 01:12 PM
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You are forgetting something, you can only get 2 novelties from the shelter per day.
Doesn't matter how many you own or don't own, the limit is 2. except slime slugma atm.


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post Aug 6 2010, 01:27 PM
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Argh. Now I don't know what to think...so I'ma just going to say I have "no opinion" on this anymore. I'm not exactly against it...but I'm not sure I'm for it either :/

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There is nothing wrong with people not wanting to breed a shiny that they don't pick. I will only breed noveltys of pokemon I want shinies of purely because I don't want to breed a shiny I want and not get it.. I have got 3 shinies from shelter of people who have been breeding normal pokemon in hope of getting a shiny.

All my none shiny noveltys Squirtle Clone right now will b released so others can have them. I don't think the having more eggs in day care would help and if it only happened on extra maturaty days people who were against the idea may not breed pokemon on those days. Also its the lack of different eggs that is noticable on these days there is still lots of certain kinds of eggs such as Squirtle and Onix so we don't really need more of them.


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