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Jul 4 2015, 10:50 AM
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Gym Leader Group: +Donors Posts: 348 Joined: 1-July 11 Member No.: 144 724 The Saur Kingdom |
I must agree with natures almost mattering more than IVs. Lets say you use a special attacker, then you obviously don't want a nature that decrease that stat. (Speaking of which, I still haven't switched my modest dugtrio) xD When it get to IVs I almost find that the placement of them are more important than the actual amount. Lets say you use that special attacker again, then who really cares if it got 0 IVs at the atk stat and lowering the total amount of IVs. And to add on to this, sometimes a Nature like Mild or Naive that decreases a defensive state can be useful if the Pokemon's defense wasn't terribly high to begin with. And this is fairly obvious, but Natures that decrease Speed or the preferred attack stat of the Pokemon are almost always useless. This post has been edited by Venusaur King: Jul 4 2015, 10:50 AM -------------------- |
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Jul 4 2015, 02:13 PM
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She Who Can Be Voracious Group: +Donors Posts: 2 808 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Flatland Member No.: 79 103 My Purple Ones |
And to add on to this, sometimes a Nature like Mild or Naive that decreases a defensive state can be useful if the Pokemon's defense wasn't terribly high to begin with. And this is fairly obvious, but Natures that decrease Speed or the preferred attack stat of the Pokemon are almost always useless. So does Serebii have the info on what preferred stat a mon has? Because I have no idea. -------------------- Avatar by Cycloneblaze at Cycloneshop II Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/eevee64 Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/Baymax |
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Jul 4 2015, 03:21 PM
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Gym Leader Group: +Donors Posts: 348 Joined: 1-July 11 Member No.: 144 724 The Saur Kingdom |
And to add on to this, sometimes a Nature like Mild or Naive that decreases a defensive state can be useful if the Pokemon's defense wasn't terribly high to begin with. And this is fairly obvious, but Natures that decrease Speed or the preferred attack stat of the Pokemon are almost always useless. So does Serebii have the info on what preferred stat a mon has? Because I have no idea. The Dex entries on GPX have which attack stat is higher. Just as an example, Zapdos mentioned needing to replace his Modest Dugtrio. That's because it has a much higher Attack stat than Sp. Attack as you can see in the Dex entry. http://gpxplus.net/dex/dugtrio -------------------- |
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Jul 4 2015, 03:27 PM
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She Who Can Be Voracious Group: +Donors Posts: 2 808 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Flatland Member No.: 79 103 My Purple Ones |
The Dex entries on GPX have which attack stat is higher. Just as an example, Zapdos mentioned needing to replace his Modest Dugtrio. That's because it has a much higher Attack stat than Sp. Attack as you can see in the Dex entry. http://gpxplus.net/dex/dugtrio Oh, I have not been very observant all these years, haha! -------------------- Avatar by Cycloneblaze at Cycloneshop II Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/eevee64 Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/Baymax |
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Jul 4 2015, 03:58 PM
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Pokémon Champion Group: +Donors Posts: 1 586 Joined: 7-October 13 From: Everywhere but where you think Member No.: 207 612 Active Squad |
I must agree with natures almost mattering more than IVs. Lets say you use a special attacker, then you obviously don't want a nature that decrease that stat. (Speaking of which, I still haven't switched my modest dugtrio) xD When it get to IVs I almost find that the placement of them are more important than the actual amount. Lets say you use that special attacker again, then who really cares if it got 0 IVs at the atk stat and lowering the total amount of IVs. And to add on to this, sometimes a Nature like Mild or Naive that decreases a defensive state can be useful if the Pokemon's defense wasn't terribly high to begin with. And this is fairly obvious, but Natures that decrease Speed or the preferred attack stat of the Pokemon are almost always useless. VK...that's not entirely true. Speed decreasing stats CAN be very useful when it's say...something like an Aggron or Sudowoodo, which are terribly slow anyways and won't be outspeeding anything anytime soon, and can also easily afford to take a hit or two. Tanks, in general, don't need Speed, and mixed attackers would benefit greatly from none of their offensive or defensive stats going down. Kingdra is an example of a Pokemon that could afford a Speed decrease, because its use is mostly to absorb fire and water damage, and its offensive and defensive stats are equal. -------------------- |
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Jul 4 2015, 05:59 PM
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Gym Leader Group: +Donors Posts: 348 Joined: 1-July 11 Member No.: 144 724 The Saur Kingdom |
I must agree with natures almost mattering more than IVs. Lets say you use a special attacker, then you obviously don't want a nature that decrease that stat. (Speaking of which, I still haven't switched my modest dugtrio) xD When it get to IVs I almost find that the placement of them are more important than the actual amount. Lets say you use that special attacker again, then who really cares if it got 0 IVs at the atk stat and lowering the total amount of IVs. And to add on to this, sometimes a Nature like Mild or Naive that decreases a defensive state can be useful if the Pokemon's defense wasn't terribly high to begin with. And this is fairly obvious, but Natures that decrease Speed or the preferred attack stat of the Pokemon are almost always useless. VK...that's not entirely true. Speed decreasing stats CAN be very useful when it's say...something like an Aggron or Sudowoodo, which are terribly slow anyways and won't be outspeeding anything anytime soon, and can also easily afford to take a hit or two. Tanks, in general, don't need Speed, and mixed attackers would benefit greatly from none of their offensive or defensive stats going down. Kingdra is an example of a Pokemon that could afford a Speed decrease, because its use is mostly to absorb fire and water damage, and its offensive and defensive stats are equal. I agree for the most part; that's why I said almost always useless. I agree that Pokemon like Ferrothorn, Gigalith, Sudowoodo, and Aggron, who are not going to outspeed someone, can afford it. I disagree about someone like Kingdra with middling speed though. Kingdra can outspeed some Pokemon, so I'd hate to shoot myself in the foot and take away some of that advantage. -------------------- |
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Jul 4 2015, 09:59 PM
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Pokémon Champion Group: +Donors Posts: 1 586 Joined: 7-October 13 From: Everywhere but where you think Member No.: 207 612 Active Squad |
The difference is, though, Kingdra's a niche player-it doesn't have ANY outstanding stats, so its use is more defensive typing than offensive power. Its use, at least for me, is trapping and eliminating Fire, Water, and Steel-types, or damaging the incoming switch well and then hopping out. Since my Kingdra either isn't damaged most of the time enough to overcome Leftovers, or it's attacking on a switch anyways, its Speed matters MUCH less than my other pokes. That's why I'm a bit sad it's Bold, and not, say, Quiet or Relaxed.
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Jul 5 2015, 12:47 PM
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A random goat Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 28-April 09 From: A World of Dreams Member No.: 16 952 My Platinum Team |
I guess it's better ground gem, I saw a lot of ampharos, raichus, and electric types
I was thinking about what types could counter water, and to battle an electric type, you can do a x1 damage... but it's ok ground gem (I think I need one more...) I have to compare to beating electric types or water-dragons-grass... (It was about a feraligatr, i completely forgot it) -------------------- |
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Jul 5 2015, 05:02 PM
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Pokémon Champion Group: +Donors Posts: 1 586 Joined: 7-October 13 From: Everywhere but where you think Member No.: 207 612 Active Squad |
Honestly? It depends on the rest of your team. Do you have a solid Hippowdon/Dugtrio/Gliscor/whatever? Then go with Ice Gem. Got a Froslass or Glaceon chilling? Go with Ground Gem. Have both? Experiment!
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Jul 6 2015, 02:24 AM
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A random goat Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 28-April 09 From: A World of Dreams Member No.: 16 952 My Platinum Team |
Honestly? It depends on the rest of your team. Do you have a solid Hippowdon/Dugtrio/Gliscor/whatever? Then go with Ice Gem. Got a Froslass or Glaceon chilling? Go with Ground Gem. Have both? Experiment! I have a dugtrio, but I don't use it xD hippo and gliscor, I don't like them... and I don't use froslass not glaceon (My ice types are jynx and weavile at battle tower... but I'm using a jolteon with ice gem...) So I don't know xD When I decide to use it, I will check my other pkmn at that team -------------------- |
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Jul 6 2015, 03:57 AM
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Pokémon Champion Group: +Donors Posts: 1 586 Joined: 7-October 13 From: Everywhere but where you think Member No.: 207 612 Active Squad |
Man, what a fierce combat against Zapdos!
After an unfortunate stalemate in the first bout, I switched my team up, and came out pistons firing. It was close and tense for the longest time, switches back and forth trying desperately to get the edge! And then, at last, a Haxorus broke through Azumarill's defensive line, and from there, chaos ensued! It was a runaway victory for Doom Hunter in the end, but Zapdos's defensive front was VERY difficult to break! -------------------- |
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Jul 6 2015, 09:20 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 2-August 12 From: - Member No.: 169 355 Active Squad |
Man, what a fierce combat against Zapdos! After an unfortunate stalemate in the first bout, I switched my team up, and came out pistons firing. It was close and tense for the longest time, switches back and forth trying desperately to get the edge! And then, at last, a Haxorus broke through Azumarill's defensive line, and from there, chaos ensued! It was a runaway victory for Doom Hunter in the end, but Zapdos's defensive front was VERY difficult to break! This was the the longest battle I've had here, but you elite four sure are worth your titles This post has been edited by Zapdos: Jul 6 2015, 09:32 AM |
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Jul 6 2015, 10:18 AM
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Gym Leader Group: +Donors Posts: 348 Joined: 1-July 11 Member No.: 144 724 The Saur Kingdom |
Man, what a fierce combat against Zapdos! After an unfortunate stalemate in the first bout, I switched my team up, and came out pistons firing. It was close and tense for the longest time, switches back and forth trying desperately to get the edge! And then, at last, a Haxorus broke through Azumarill's defensive line, and from there, chaos ensued! It was a runaway victory for Doom Hunter in the end, but Zapdos's defensive front was VERY difficult to break! This was the the longest battle I've had here, but you elite four sure are worth your titles I'm glad we've shown ourselves worthy of them since we gave them to ourselves On another front, has anyone else noticed how many people (not in this group) don't have enough Pokemon in their Battle Tower to be challenged? It's among the more frustrating things on the site. Fill your Battle Towers, people! This post has been edited by Venusaur King: Jul 16 2015, 06:00 AM -------------------- |
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Aug 2 2015, 04:10 AM
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Pokémon Champion Group: +Donors Posts: 1 586 Joined: 7-October 13 From: Everywhere but where you think Member No.: 207 612 Active Squad |
HEY BATTLE DOJO!
It's quiet in here, and I need some help from y'all. To anyone hatching Magikarp or Charmander: I need an Adamant Magikarp and Modest Charmander with high IVs for an experiment I'm doing. I'm looking through the Safari, but if you've got one, get in contact with me, because I'd like to talk to you! -------------------- |
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Aug 4 2015, 05:46 AM
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Gym Leader Group: +Donors Posts: 348 Joined: 1-July 11 Member No.: 144 724 The Saur Kingdom |
It's been a little while, but we have a new member- Lisa!
Watch out Gym Leaders! We just got a new member- shiny mega charizard x This post has been edited by Venusaur King: Oct 20 2015, 11:46 AM -------------------- |
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Nov 1 2015, 04:13 PM
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She Who Can Be Voracious Group: +Donors Posts: 2 808 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Flatland Member No.: 79 103 My Purple Ones |
How are Battle-y things in the Dojo?
I hoped that becoming an affiliate would help your group get some exposure. -------------------- Avatar by Cycloneblaze at Cycloneshop II Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/eevee64 Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/Baymax |
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Nov 5 2015, 09:21 AM
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Gym Leader Group: +Donors Posts: 348 Joined: 1-July 11 Member No.: 144 724 The Saur Kingdom |
How are Battle-y things in the Dojo? I hoped that becoming an affiliate would help your group get some exposure. Things are quite quiet at the Battle Dojo. We've had a few members join but nobody seems to be too active. -------------------- |
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Nov 5 2015, 03:04 PM
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She Who Can Be Voracious Group: +Donors Posts: 2 808 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Flatland Member No.: 79 103 My Purple Ones |
Maybe have some mentoring sessions going on?
That is, if there are any members like me who are not good at battling. I would like to learn but I'm not able to play much at the present time. -------------------- Avatar by Cycloneblaze at Cycloneshop II Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/eevee64 Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/Baymax |
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Dec 14 2015, 05:57 PM
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She Who Can Be Voracious Group: +Donors Posts: 2 808 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Flatland Member No.: 79 103 My Purple Ones |
Would it be futile if one tried to do battle on GPX+ without using items at all?
I hope i don't have to use valuable headspace for knowing the effects of items. -------------------- Avatar by Cycloneblaze at Cycloneshop II Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/eevee64 Banner by http://gpx.plus/user/Baymax |
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Dec 15 2015, 08:36 AM
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Gym Leader Group: +Donors Posts: 348 Joined: 1-July 11 Member No.: 144 724 The Saur Kingdom |
Would it be futile if one tried to do battle on GPX+ without using items at all? I hope i don't have to use valuable headspace for knowing the effects of items. You can battle without items, but you're going to be a lot more successful with them. Leftovers- Heal you around 8% after both Pokemon have attacked each turn. Quick Claw- Your Pokemon has the chance to attack first regardless of speed. Choice Band- Increases ATK stat by 1.5 times (300 ATK with a Choice Band would become 450 ATK); locks you into that move. Choice Specs- Increases SP. ATK stat by 1.5 times (300 SP. ATK with a Choice Band would become 450 SP. ATK); locks you into that move. Gems- Allow your Pokemon to use moves of the Gem's type. This post has been edited by Venusaur King: Dec 15 2015, 08:50 AM -------------------- |
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