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Children's attiudes, before and now.
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post Jun 13 2009, 07:29 PM
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Ooh yes. Me and my friend have had this conversation before, and we believe we know why our generation is full of such disrespectful little sh*ts. See my friend has said that our parents generation, for the most part, had sucky lives. My mother's family wasn't exactly fun to live in, and her parents' had difficult lives as well.

Parents want to treat their children like angels (our generation) because they don't want them to end up having terrible or bad lives growing up like they did. Naturally our generation takes this for granted and abuses it religiously. Unless, by some stroke of luck, they develop responsibility and want to pay for their own things.

I'm one of the kids who has an attitude towards my mother, and is spoiled, but I'm not like that to other people or in public. I'm just like that at home, and when my mother gets on my nerves.

I generally feel bad when I get something I asked for anyway. I don't like being spoiled, it makes me feel really... I don't know, low, I guess.


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post Jun 17 2009, 04:54 PM
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Trust me. I see 'em at the library all the time. Little kids these days are dickheads.

If I talked back to my parents like they did, I would've gotten smacked upside the head. Parents these days are pansies. They give "time-outs". My parents took time out of their busy day to whip my behind.


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post Jul 7 2009, 09:57 AM
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I think kids these days are really annoying. Their attitude overall is annoying. It doesn't even need to be 30 years ago.

I am 22. I have three younger siblings. One brother and two sisters. Our age varies by 3 years each. The difference in attitude is especially high between me and my 13 year old sister. It drives even me up the wall.

She is absolutely rude towards me and epsecially towards my mother who is taking care of her. She is vain and exerts her 'rights'. She thinks she is smarter than my mother and hardly ever listens to her. And whenever my mother scolds her she said she deserved some spanking. (She absolutely does not hit her although she likes to refer to hitting her on the butt, like she used to do it with me and my other sister). My little sister is so cocky, she always says: You mustn't hurt me, that is against the laws! Generally, she always threatens my mother she might get herself a lawyer...at 13... But just to give you an idea of how kids these days are.
I used to get spanked (on the butt only..) when I did things wrong. The way the educated my wasn't traumatic in the least. Overall, I was very respectful towards my parents and still am. I personally think this is how children are supposed to behave. Towards grown ups, they should show respect and know their place.

Thus I think it is terrible seeing how kids act nowadays. It scares me. The way they insult each other at the age of 11 and think it is normal and the way they rudely talk to each other when they are supposed to be freinds. Even my little sister insults my mother. If I had dared to do that, I would have gotten smacked senseless. Most children are the same. I grow rather angry seeing children acting the way they do now...

In my opinion, spanking the children is okay (not with a belt or anything, hitting on the butt will do for me)...I wouldn't want to be lectured by my child whether I it needs to get spanked or not. By all means, I think children should be shown their limits, even if they need to be spanked slightly. I am absolutely not into hitting them real bad! Absolutely not!


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post Jul 7 2009, 02:34 PM
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I hate the whole "Oh, in the olden days, everything was so much better!" sentiment, and I try to avoid it. Though I must say that kids I see around are generally not well-behaved.

A lot of it is parenting, and general culture. There is a sentiment of "oh, we must protect the children's fragile self-esteem! everyone is a winner!" Which, kids need to realise that not everything is going to be like that. Hence, kids overreact when they lose.

Moreover, there's so much stuff now, much more than before, especially technology. The kids are gonna want the newest stuff, to feel just as good as their friends. And kids can be darn persistent and annoying, so many busy parent will be like "okay, whatever, I'll get it" and it leads to an attitude of entitlement.

Entitlement, I think, is the root of the problem. Kids have been brought up to believe that they get what they want, and the feeling of "children and babies are the world's greatest treasure, we must coddle and protect them and give them everything they want so they are not sad!"

I find that a lot of the problems stem from bad parenting, and the pressure to do everything at once. If you're going to have kids, make sure you have time to raise them so they are not brats and gimme-gotchas, it's unbecoming and annoying to the rest of the world. Childhood is where you need to be taught manners and how to act, it's not instinctual, and if parents fail at doing that, due to time or whatever, we get brats.

Personally, I'm scared of when my generation fully hits the workforce because there are a lot of lazy people my age. I try not to be a lazy fool and to not be rude.

Respecting your elders always struck an annoyance chord in me too though. Too often is it said to me in the way of "they are old, therefore you cannot correct them when they are wrong, or call them out when they are being idiotic". I fully think that if someone is saying something irrational or wrong, it's fine to correct them, as long as it's not rude. Too many times have I gotten in trouble for correcting an older family member, but I'm always going to speak up if I'm right.
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post Jul 14 2009, 01:53 PM
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I believe that children (such as myself) have every right to have an attitude. It seems unfair that just because our parents literally MADE us, they have every right to boss us around without listening to a word we say.

When I have an attitude, though, I actually support it with facts, examples, and logic. Why should my parents have any right to yell at me when I "talk back" to them if I have REASONS why I KNOW that they're in the wrong and I'm in the right. They don't even give me a chance, and I'm fed up with it. They always say: "You need to start acting like an adult," but when I want to take responsibility and make my own decisions, they say "You'll do what I tell you." They have no right to boss me around like hypocrites, and I deserve to tell them that.

It annoys me to see commercials about parenting, and how you can "Turn your child's sassy attitude around." Who says that MY attitude is the one that needs to be fixed? Maybe it's my parents that need a bit of teaching. Maybe THEY need to learn not to "talk back" or interrupt me while I'M speaking. I'm a human being, and I have the same rights to freedom of speech as my parents. They're control-freaks.

Also, it really ticks me off when my parents go into a rant about what a terrible child I am almost every day. Then, when I try to start a rant, I get yelled at and I'm told to go to my room. That's BULL.

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post Jul 14 2009, 02:49 PM
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To keep it short and simple: everyone says that about the up and coming generation.


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post Jul 15 2009, 06:44 AM
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All that stuff about kids thirty years ago is bullhonky. Never was there a time that children never disobeyed their parents and acted with perfect respect toward all their elders, and sure some parents hit responsibly, but plenty more hit too hard and too much and too often to the point it was very abusive, leading to the passing of all the child protection laws that keep parents from hitting their kids today. People just like to think the good old days were better.

As for which set of kids is better- I say neither. Some things never change, and these kids aren't worse, they're growing up in another time and place and need different attitudes and personalities.


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post May 21 2010, 10:21 AM
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I think is natural that children sometimes disobey and misbehave. It's ok for kids to have their own opinion about things but... honestly some 12-year-olds using makeup and having boyfriends...I think kids are trying to grow up way too fast. And I hate when they think they know everything. My little sister is getting on my nerves. She's all about: "Mom buy me a moped. It's my biggest dream and everyone should have their dream come true" If that's the best dream a kid can have it's pretty lame. And her school is so close she could walk there...
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post Jul 3 2010, 09:45 AM
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Honestly if your 40 playing on a site like this then something is really wrong with you but i have a general idea of what people were like back then.

Well i doubt something about kids has changed that much from back then and now
the fact that your trying to generalize every kid in to one category is stero typic but yes we are all pretty much rude if thats what you wanna call it but actually its just that we plain dont care.

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post Jul 29 2010, 04:06 PM
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All of the blame must come to the parents somehow, because kids dont just 'devolve' if you will.


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Kids today are stupid when it comes to the internet.

Case in point being 'Jessi Slaughter'

- lol, you're 11.. why are you on Stickam?

- lol, you're 11.. why are you talking about your sex life?

- lol, you're 11.. why do you have a webcam?

- lol, you're 11.. why did you become a group for that fat douche in that scene band no1curr about?

- lol, you're 11.. you dun goof'd your whole life. Congratulations.
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post Jul 30 2010, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Bouvard @ Jul 30 2010, 08:39 PM) *
Kids today are stupid when it comes to the internet.

Case in point being 'Jessi Slaughter'

- lol, you're 11.. why are you on Stickam?

- lol, you're 11.. why are you talking about your sex life?

- lol, you're 11.. why do you have a webcam?

- lol, you're 11.. why did you become a group for that fat douche in that scene band no1curr about?

- lol, you're 11.. you dun goof'd your whole life. Congratulations.


And parents are shit for the most part. Baby Boomers FTL. Sure there's a few good ones but there's more shitty parents than good ones.


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There are problems on both ends, it's not just "Oh well parents these days suck" or "Kids these days play too much vidya games". Most teachers and parents will tell you that parenting is a crapshoot. Personally, what I feel helped my development (as I look back) is the freedom I got. My parents were never that restrictive over who I played with or what I did. I mean hell, my parents had a month's notice on a 4 day trip to California with just me and my friends, and they let me use one of their cars since it was bigger and safer. I don't take that for granted.

Now obviously, they didn't raise me with all of the freedoms in the world. There were some restraints over what they'd tollerate in my schoolwork. Point is that moderation is key.


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post Oct 27 2010, 05:00 PM
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I personally blame pop music for all of these kids that are rude and mean. People like Lady Gaga are basically brainwashing kids and turning them into monsters mellow.gif It's not right. Furthermore, parents are buying their kids age 18 games which is bad because this is only contributing towards their violence.
I cant say anything else in this matter since i listen to Marilyn Manson and Slipknot and i have a couple of age18 games myself even though I am 16, but at least I dont go off and do crime activities and the such. I'm not violent and mean; i'm a nice person. Its just that all this pop crap has to be stopped. People lilke Lady Gaga need to stay away from the teenager group otherwise this will continue. coffee.gif


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When I was a senior in high school, everyone always complained about the freshmen having a "I am supiror in every way and you need to worship me" additude. It was really annoying. If they bumped into you in the hallway they would be the ones screaming at you even if you said you were sorry or excuse me or something. They also felt they had the right to always be first in line in the cafeteria and would literally shove past everyone so they could be first and if you were getting something, they would go so far as to make you drop it so they could get it. Thats why I never ate school lunch XD

But my 14 year old cousin...he deserves to be punched in the face. He is the rudest little snot I have ever met. He wasnt always like that though. He used to be really mellow and just stayed in the corner by himself and did his own thing. Now he has the same "holier than thou" thing going on. I had a party at my aunts house and he kept screaming about no one better touch his xbox he he would punch them in the face and all kinda of nasty things. Did my aunt do anything about it? No. She believes "my kids do no wrong." My aunt is always complaning about how everyone is out to get him and she doesnt understand why. Well, look at your kid. Hes a rude snotface and he's the one that starts the trouble.

I dont understand how pop music brainwashes kids. You could say the same thing for any music. I think modern pop is mindless dribble but thats not the point. The music industry is brainwashing people to worship pop by shoving it at them, thats for sure, but I dont see the connection with violence dumblook.gif

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Basically everything starts and ends with parenting. If both parents aren't around, be it either work related or whatever, kids will learn from their surroundings instead of the parents, and that sets up a Catch-22 situation where the parents wonder what they did wrong to make their damn kids the way they are, because they were never there in the first place.

I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but I'm noticing this real novel idea of celebrities ending up as de facto role-models for kids becoming a lot more prevalent. Quite frankly I think the concept is pure bullshit because that person will most likely never be in their lives, and the parents should strive to be their children's role-models because they actually ARE in their damn kids lives.


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post Oct 28 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(EmoCelebi @ Oct 27 2010, 11:00 PM) *
I personally blame pop music for all of these kids that are rude and mean. People like Lady Gaga are basically brainwashing kids and turning them into monsters mellow.gif It's not right. Furthermore, parents are buying their kids age 18 games which is bad because this is only contributing towards their violence.
I cant say anything else in this matter since i listen to Marilyn Manson and Slipknot and i have a couple of age18 games myself even though I am 16, but at least I dont go off and do crime activities and the such. I'm not violent and mean; i'm a nice person. Its just that all this pop crap has to be stopped. People lilke Lady Gaga need to stay away from the teenager group otherwise this will continue. coffee.gif


Don't start the whole "let's blame music and video games for it because we can" rubbish. You may not like pop music but, that doesn't make it "crap", it means you do not like it but, it is still good in its own way so stop talking about pop music as it has nothing to do with violence.

I'm seriously tired of everyone pointing their fingers at music they don't like and video games. You know which genres of music are more likely to lead to aggression? Heavy metal, death metal and rock music but everyone insists on blaming something they don't like over something they do. Music and video games don't affect peoples' minds unless they haven't been raised properly or their parents have been neglectful so they had to learn from something else.

If their parents are mean, then of course they'll learn how to act from them and may be mean OR choose to learn from school friends.

Video games can be great stress relievers, the violentness can actually get out people's anger, frustration and violent tendencies from inside, therefore making them LESS violent. Examples? I get out my sadisticness through roleplaying and my violentness through video games. How do I act with people? Quiet, shy and I care if they get hurt, basically, it keeps me relaxed and acting nice.


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QUOTE(MoogleSam @ Oct 28 2010, 01:52 PM) *
QUOTE(EmoCelebi @ Oct 27 2010, 11:00 PM) *
I personally blame pop music for all of these kids that are rude and mean. People like Lady Gaga are basically brainwashing kids and turning them into monsters mellow.gif It's not right. Furthermore, parents are buying their kids age 18 games which is bad because this is only contributing towards their violence.
I cant say anything else in this matter since i listen to Marilyn Manson and Slipknot and i have a couple of age18 games myself even though I am 16, but at least I dont go off and do crime activities and the such. I'm not violent and mean; i'm a nice person. Its just that all this pop crap has to be stopped. People lilke Lady Gaga need to stay away from the teenager group otherwise this will continue. coffee.gif


Don't start the whole "let's blame music and video games for it because we can" rubbish. You may not like pop music but, that doesn't make it "crap", it means you do not like it but, it is still good in its own way so stop talking about pop music as it has nothing to do with violence.

I'm seriously tired of everyone pointing their fingers at music they don't like and video games. You know which genres of music are more likely to lead to aggression? Heavy metal, death metal and rock music but everyone insists on blaming something they don't like over something they do. Music and video games don't affect peoples' minds unless they haven't been raised properly or their parents have been neglectful so they had to learn from something else.

If their parents are mean, then of course they'll learn how to act from them and may be mean OR choose to learn from school friends.

Video games can be great stress relievers, the violentness can actually get out people's anger, frustration and violent tendencies from inside, therefore making them LESS violent. Examples? I get out my sadisticness through roleplaying and my violentness through video games. How do I act with people? Quiet, shy and I care if they get hurt, basically, it keeps me relaxed and acting nice.


If videogames and music were the source of violence, I'd be a mass murderer by now XD

Of the extremely few cases where a video game or music did influence people, it was because the person had some kind of mental problem to begin with or cannot make the distinction between whats real and whats fake.

The stupid parents wwho have the whole "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!" attitude are the parents who think they are above looking after their own kid and feel the government should look after them. Thats basically it :/
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