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post Aug 18 2008, 06:42 PM
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Yup, Chronicles seemed to run for about 4-5 episodes, and then it was done.


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post Aug 22 2008, 05:03 AM
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Besides that, they need a completely new Pokemon series. Like, no more Ash, no more Pikachu, ect. Team Rocket can stay as cameos because they're made of Awesome and Win, but that's it. Really, it's too generic now, and we need a fresh take on the anime.


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post Oct 1 2008, 12:38 PM
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it was ok at first, but then then they changed the voice actors, and now its a load of s*** no.gif


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post Oct 1 2008, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(PrimalPalkia @ Oct 1 2008, 12:38 PM) *
it was ok at first, but then then they changed the voice actors, and now its a load of s*** no.gif


I agree it was so much better with the original voice actors


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I agree, it is stupid.

Although, 8 year olds seem to enjoy the show. It's not like they target the anime to 17 year olds such as myself.
The first few episodes of Chronicles when the ememy was hunting down Raikou was the only part of the entire series where it seemed interesting in my opinion.

What's with people complaining about that blue haired girl's outfit?
Misty's outfit was more revealing than that.

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post Oct 2 2008, 03:12 PM
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I think people are complaining because Misty wasn't ten while she dressed like that. She was still jailbait, but she wasn't TEN. Dawn... kinda is.


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QUOTE(Tiamat @ Oct 2 2008, 03:12 PM) *
I think people are complaining because Misty wasn't ten while she dressed like that. She was still jailbait, but she wasn't TEN. Dawn... kinda is.


Actually, though it wasn't stated in the American dub, it was stated in Episode 3 of the Japanese version that Kasumi is 10. This is according to Bulbapedia


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post Oct 8 2008, 11:17 PM
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OK, I am going to take a stab at defending the anime a little. Sure, I don't watch it anymore, but I just wanna make some points.

First of all, you people seem to blame 4Kids and PUSA for a lot of things, especially the show's "suckage." What you all have to remember is that the Pokémon anime is made in Japan, by the Japanese Pokémon Company (or whoever). What you watch is basically the same thing that little Japanese kids watch in Japan, except Dawn's skirt is even shorter.

Speaking of Dawn, you have to remember that once again Pokémon is really a Japanese culture thing before it is anything in the United States. Japanese culture varies greatly from our own. Of course it is going to be more accepting to have those short skirts on a ten year old girl in Japan than the US - the United States was founded by a bunch of minor Protestant sects of people. US ideals are some of the most conservative in the world. If you're going to whine about how the dub is nothing like the Japanese version and then complain about the shortness of Dawn's skirt, then you are essentially a hypocrite, no offense.

Team Rocket is supposed to be a pathetic bunch of losers. Is that right? No. Think about it - when the show started, they were truly feared criminals. But chasing Ash around for all of these years trying to snatch Pikachu has turned the poor trio crazy. How would you be like if your life goal was to steal a yellow rat from a group of kids and you never succeeded? You would be crazy too.

The reason they continue to follow Ash around, other than the fact that they provide the only comic relief in a dub where the main characters range from mildly to severely braindead, but they know that Pikachu is unlike other Pokémon. Ever since episode one where Pikachu is given to Ash by Professor Oak, we know that Pikachu is not like other Pikachu. How could it have fried all of those Spearows even though it was a Level 5. Pikachu has always been a special Pokémon, although I think it sucks in many battles because Ash spoils it way too much. I wonder how much that kid spends on ketchup a week.

But all of Ash's Pokémon are strong, and he always gets all of the badges, and he always encounters all of the legendary Pokémon for one simple reason: HE'S THE MAIN CHARACTER. Pokémon is intended to appeal to the young fanbase, and what they wanna see is Pokémon battling and their favorite Pokémon, which if it isn't Pikachu is usually Rayquaza or Kyogre or Mewtwo or Manaphy or something like that. Hence Ash gets to meets all of the legendary Pokémon because of fanservice (no, not that fanservice. These are little kids here). And why aren't most of Ash's Pokémon evolved? Kids like cute Pokémon or strong Pokémon. Because of that, he keeps cutesy Pokémon (Pikachu, Chimchar) and strong Pokémon (Staravia, Buizel) around all of the time. Brock and [Insert Female Protagonist here] follow the same formula. Well, Tracey does too, but no one likes Tracey.

And one last thing: STOP YER BITCHIN' 'BOUT THE VOICE ACTORS! They finished their contracts, they were done. All good things have to come to an end, and the original dub cast couldn't stay forever (although the Japanese cast is mostly the same if I recall correctly). Actors are always trying to try something bigger and better, and therefore they left Pokémon, and that is why they probably didn't get re-hired when PUSA took charge - because they wanted to try something else instead of saying "Bulbasaur!" for an entire episode. (Pikachu and Togepi actually use their original Japanese voices) In my opinion, the new voice actors are doing a good job, and I think Ash sounds much more appropriate in his new voice. I can't stand listening to the old Ash now, lol.

So, that is my defense of the anime. Take it or leave it.


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post Oct 9 2008, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(johnrichard1991 @ Oct 1 2008, 07:11 PM) *
What's with people complaining about that blue haired girl's outfit?
Misty's outfit was more revealing than that.


Revealing what? No it wasn't . . . It really wasn't . . .


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post Oct 12 2008, 11:33 AM
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yeah, the anime is worse, i think the better anime was batle frontier season
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I think that ash's hair looks awful and they need better personality characters. Also, they need to target all ages if pokemon is to survive in the future. Plus, almost all the characters are so immature, it's not even funny anymore.


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QUOTE(Inu Ryu @ Oct 12 2008, 01:23 PM) *
I think that ash's hair looks awful and they need better personality characters. Also, they need to target all ages if pokemon is to survive in the future. Plus, almost all the characters are so immature, it's not even funny anymore.


Well, Pokémon is designed for kids, all around. Kids play video games. Kids watch cartoons. Kids play with cards. Pokémon is targeted towards kids. Now, should they make more games for more mature audiences? Yes. But the sad realization is that Pokémon is meant for little kids, and therefore the anime is going to remain quite dry compared to other animes.

And trust me, Pokémon isn't going to die out soon. My girlfriend's brother and sister obsess over those Pokémon cards so much. They even got the first season on DVD (easily the best season ^_^.gif).


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The only good thing left about the anime is that you still get really excited if you see a pokemon you absolutely adore or a person you can't get enough of. So far, I've been purposely skipping the pokemon episodes to watch Sonic X unless one of my favourite pokemon was in it, like I'll be doing when they stop slacking and get the Dusknoir episode down here.

Another bad thing about the anime now is that it has too many chain episodes (i.e.: Riolu pt. 1 and Riolu pt. 2) and there's too much time between the gym matches. In the previous sagas, they would've been past the sixth gym by now, but they're taking their sweet time with this saga and aren't even there yet.

They meet someone new in every episode, Team Rocket appears with a faulty tin can of a robot, "Pikachu, Thunderbolt!", "LOOK'S LIKE TEAM ROCKET'S BLASTING OFF AGAIN!!! *ping*", and that's it. Sucky plot, and sucky voice actors. Also, Ash's team needs more coordination. He doesn't think of what he wants or needs to win, he just catches 'em, puts them in a battle, and watches as they lose (usually). Pikachu and Chimchar seem like the only acceptions to me.

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I gave up on watching the anime a long time ago. I do think it gives Pokemon are far too kiddy image though. Then again, if it wasn't for the anime I would never have got into Pokemon all those years ago, so it's difficult for me to say that I wish they had never made it, but I wish it wasn't so cringe worthy.


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What we need is a slightly dark Pokemon anime. Maybe they'll make one for Orre. tongue.gif

The only thing I hate is when Ash sees a Pokemon he fought, yet he refers to the pokemon saying, "Who's that?" or "[insert pokemon name here] huh." It really peeves me.


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QUOTE(Damian @ Aug 18 2008, 04:39 PM) *
QUOTE(Swordsalmon @ Oct 7 2007, 07:47 PM) *
Didn't they do that already? I remember seeing an episode with an entirely different cast, with different antagonists, and was actually good!

yeah i remember that
it was pokemon chronicles with the G/S game heros
it was fun but they killed the animes


Yeah, Pokemon Chronicles. In fact, there was one with Ashes old johto friend. (The one with "Sparky"? I forget his name...)

I still watch it sometimes, like the movies, and does Team Rocket break the fourth wall anymore? Looking back, that was kinda funny, but now...

I like the idea of Pokemon, I really do, but it doesn't full on appeal to me anymore. The movies are the best right now though, but his line up is changing so if you don't- Aah, screw it. In the latest movie, his pokemon barely have screen time. He gets them out to eat, then to have fun in the water, and thats it. Other than that, it's O L00K P1K4CHU 15 0N H1S SH0ULD3R IN EVRY SHOT LOL! Except there's the "pikachu flies in on <newest bird pokemon name here>" shot, but... yeah. Do I have to go on? I don't want this to be walloftext.gif , So one last thing...

@Yoshikin: Yeah, as it seems the movies have little continuity with the tv show. That sucks. There's no flashbacks to movies, just earlier episodes. Personally, I think if you don't see the movies: TOO BAD FOR YOU.


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When I first heard the VA I didn't like them however you do get used to them. Personally what I think 4Kids or PUSA need to understand is that Pokemon was at its most popular about 9-10 years ago. That means that the fans back then will have grown up still enjoying the series and games and should be the main target audience, not young kids who don't understand that the true awesomeness of training Magikarp and finding out its actually good

For the actual series they should start following the manga...it is awesome. For one thing they actually get older and Ash (known as Red) actually evolves his team and doesn't catch every starter pokemon in existence...he doesn't even start off with Pikachu!! Next it integrates all the games main characters into the story (For example Red (Ash) gets kidnapped and Yellow teams up with Green (Gary) to save him). Also the villains are much more evil and cool such as The Mask of Ice.

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QUOTE(Sponge @ Sep 27 2007, 04:17 PM) *
What's stopping them from making a more mature pokemon tv show though? Surely they must know that not only kids play pokemon games...


I actually like the anime - the old stuff from the beginning. Haven't had much time to keep up with the new stuff.

The thing that annoys me, though, is, of course, that it was obviously made for children. Actually, it doesn't annoy me so much that it's just a little disappointing. All of the potential dramatic scenes were played down because of the age range, which is understandable, but seriously... I mean, that part in Pokemon: 2000 when Ash was essentially drowned? I love how Misty was saying "breathe, Ash" and shaking him calmly. *headdesk*

Meh, so call me a sucker for drama. :P I do think they should remake them for a more mature audience. Considering pokemon are plotted against one another, you think there'd be more blood. Because there isn't, I think it's easy to forget that the pokemon are made to be living creatures, just as humans, rather than something like, say, digimon, who are computer... erm... simulations, for lack of a better term.

Anyways, there's my rant. :P I vote a more mature pokemon series, but I suppose that we have fanfiction for that, too, eh?

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I don't have much against the series...of course it should improve..a little pointers would be...

- Ash should lose more often
- Pikachu should evolve! oh.gif
- Brock should dissappear for a while, so we would miss him and be happy when he returns
- They should mention a person's age in the series....because people say that Dawn is like...10? But she seems too mature for that age...considering her very nice skirt wink.gif And...she has a let's say bust. And she acts older than a 10 years old kid.
- Team Rocket should own from time to time.
- TR should change their moto once again
- Ash should get more enemis
- The protagonists should get girlfriends/boyfriends...just to spice things up
- Ash should hang out with 2 GIRLS for once....:/ Like Dawn and May, without Brock

etc etc...also Charizard must return to Ash for a long period...or Dawn could catch a shiny charmander and evolve it into shiny charizard happy.gif


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