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Debates and Tone
Lord Raven
post Jun 6 2013, 05:45 PM
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This is an interesting thing to debate and I'm going to prevent myself from flooding the thread about heathens to post here

QUOTE(Rainbow Dash x @ Jun 6 2013, 06:17 AM) *
You shouldn't debate tone, you should debate the points. I really disagree with the assertion that tone can be equal to the actual content. My tone was not intentionally aggressive. It's a fact that he was saying a lot of incorrect things throughout his postings, it's not an insult to say someone is wrong. I never once insulted him.
Perception is reality. Nobody cares about intentions if the point came across negatively, and a lot of these internet flamewars and HUGE arguments you see around have some sort of aggressor who is less-than-tactful with his tone. People respond to that negatively and it causes some sort of pride complex that prevents any sort of resolution because, 9 times out of 10, a flamewar erupts due to two prideful people duking it out because the other person rubbed them the wrong way. The assertion of "You're right I'm wrong" in a condescending way leaves us to these points.

On top of that, responding to a three year old post just to prove the dude wrong, given that a lot can change in 3 years, in such a tone is improper and generally unnecessary. It's an annoying thing to read, hence my original point "chill." You don't have to insult someone or be aggressive to have poor tone; the context around which you post is also a great factor.

This will become very apparent in the future, because as right as you can be many people will not accept it depending on the way you express it, simply because of the way you express it. In the real world even in casual social situations nobody is going to care about your content if your delivery sucks. Most basic example to illustrate my point (but it's not my point overall, which someone should understand before they dissect this post point by point), look at many comedians and TV shows; on paper, The Simpsons (90s era) is actually not funny and Norm Macdonald is a talentless comedian, but the delivery, tone, atmosphere, and context are what make them hold-your-sides hilarious, not the content itself. Content itself is chuckleworthy at best.

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His tone was very rude and condescending to begin with. With sentences such as "I do not like how kids these days just throw around vocabulary that they might not 100% understand and yet they use it like they know what they mean." - made even worse by the fact that he is wrong. I find it odd that you call out my tone whilst ignoring his much worse and much more hostile tone. I understand the post is old, but you did call it "harmless" while insinuating that there was something wrong with my tone.

I never said what he said was right. I said that your post can be construed negatively because of how you reacted to such a minor point (about nothing but semantics, no less), didn't care too much about whether or not your content was right or wrong (or the other guy's).


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