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Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 7 2012, 07:41 PM
by helping them all hatch their first dozen eggs.
Information
This group is for players who like to GIVE interactions to other players. We remember that our first eggs took a week to hatch. Many new players likely give up after thinking “this will take forever” before they learn how effective simply clicking others and become engaged in the community.
Initially we will be focusing our efforts on the user list of ‘Total Eggs Hatched’ and work our way from the last page (one egg hatched) to those who have hatched a dozen eggs. It is not expected that all members of the group will click these eggs each day since at present there are over 2,000 of them! Many of these eggs, however, are in parties whose players have long abandoned the game. When applying to join you must have the word, dozen, in all capital letters in the subject line. Over time, through our continued attention these eggs would be finished and only the new players would remain available to assist.
In the future we will expand our efforts to those who have not even hatched a single egg. At present, the best access to this is the short list of last 10 users to join the site. We will try to work out the best way to help these newest community members.
We will also have additional activities to provide opportunities for our members to give to the community at large. While there are several ideas under consideration we will defer specifics until the goup has actually developed and can consider them.
Core Activity: Members will click at least 200 eggs each day (starting with the 1-egg hatched and working up) and over the course of a week do 2,000 total. It is more important to do some every day than a whole lot one day and then nothing the rest of the week.
Rules for Group Posting:
(1) only group members can post;
(2) please be on-topic;
(3) all posts must contain at least one full sentence;
(4) do not make excessive posts in the thread as members should be able to catch up on the group news readily and not be distracted from dozen egg interaction efforts.
Who can Join:
Initially our membership criteria will be set relatively high but we anticipate they will be relaxed in the future. We simply want to start the group small so we can understand how much effort is required to accomplish our goals and manage the group.
Minimum Interactions 200,000
Minimum Eggs Hatched 2,000
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Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 11 2012, 01:56 PM
Group Member List
Leaders: http://my.gpxpl.us/ThunderMoss - http://my.gpxpl.us/Matt+Cat - http://my.gpxpl.us/Jacin+Tatt - http://my.gpxpl.us/PkmHunter - http://my.gpxpl.us/Katniss - http://gpxplus.net/user/RainWater
Members: http://my.gpxpl.us/Starships - http://my.gpxpl.us/Klaine - http://my.gpxpl.us/Barney+Stinson - http://my.gpxpl.us/Jaysus - http://gpxplus.net/user/Tadpole - http://gpxplus.net/user/Velocity - http://gpxplus.net/user/Mizuhisa - http://gpxplus.net/user/The+Yatagarasu - http://gpxplus.net/user/Giraffe+A+Laugh - http://gpxplus.net/user/Tyranisaur - http://gpxplus.net/user/Big+Papi - http://gpxplus.net/user/Jo+Calderone - http://gpxplus.net/user/Slix - http://gpxplus.net/user/Zakariah - http://gpxplus.net/user/Jen - http://gpxplus.net/user/Sweeter - http://gpxplus.net/user/Esc - http://gpxplus.net/user/Spades+Slick - http://gpxplus.net/user/teenbulma - http://gpxplus.net/user/Angelzrulez - http://gpxplus.net/user/Irk+Splee - http://gpxplus.net/user/bijoukaiba - http://gpxplus.net/user/Nikki101709 - http://gpxplus.net/user/Zaevia - http://gpxplus.net/user/Two+Lights - http://gpxplus.net/user/yaoifanatique - http://gpxplus.net/user/pumpkinking0192 - http://gpxplus.net/user/The+Neverending+Meep - http://gpxplus.net/user/DDLx - http://gpxplus.net/user/Shadow+the+Assassin - http://gpxplus.net/user/Brandon+Smith - http://gpxplus.net/user/Nemu
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 11 2012, 01:56 PM
CORE ACTIVITY: Help new users hatch their first dozen eggs.
PRIMARY METHOD: User List ~ User ranking in Eggs Hatched
Start here: http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_hatched/9999
This link should take you to the last page regardless of how many users/page you have in your settings.
Select 'Eggs' and get to clicking. If you finish this page and have some more clicks available then go the previous page. And repeat. It can take a while to work through all the pages which have those members with less than 12 eggs. Sometimes I do the page which has 11/12 players and sometimes I do not. Sometimes I continue further.
There are many users on these pages who have already retired from the game. Their parties could still have some immature eggs but with our efforts they will rapidly be completed even if never hatched.
And that is it. We will have other activities of a more varied and less exhaustive scale. The <12 group was about 2,600 eggs three weeks prior to starting this group. The week prior to starting the group it had declined to just over 1,800 eggs thanks to the multiplier weekends of the Site-wide Shiny Hunt. So far this is more a measure of clearing out the retired players until we get in stride and then it should be more a measure of users simply graduating into the 12+ ranks.
Weather Considerations: If you can do the Dozen Eggs sweep during Sunny weather it increases the benefits substantially. Similarly, if you can avoid doing it during Snowy weather you avoid the 1/3 reduction. This may not always be convenient so it is not really worth waiting for it may mean you would otherwise not do a set for the day.
Follow-up
If your schedule permits it can be pretty quick to do additional passes through the Dozen Eggs users. Typically this has been at most about 100 clicks depending on the overall activity level of the site.
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This activity leaves a very important gap: those users with zero eggs hatched. Several members are working on ideas on how we can most readily assist this group of players.
There are two approaches at present to try and reach these users:
(1) Use the eggs obtained list rather than eggs hatched. This list has not yet been given as much attention to clear out the eggs of retired players. It has a LOT more eggs to click in the 1-11 eggs obtained range. This will change steadily over time as we work on it.
This list can be found here: http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_obtained/9999
(2) Go to the general user list and then the last page. This list is sorted by user id so the newest users are all at the end. Most of these newest users should be reachable through the Eggs Hatched or Eggs Obtained lists. However, working from this list would have far fewer retired players so would actually reach those new to the site and of greatest need.
This list can be found here: http://gpxplus.net/users/9999/9999
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 11 2012, 01:56 PM
Some Statistics
Approximately once per week I will gather some numbers on the egg population within the Eggs Hatched and Eggs Obtained Lists.
Date ....... 11eggs (users) . 12obtained (users) . Combined (users) . New Users
03/19/2012 ..... 383 (191) ...... 940 (417) ........... 940 (608) ..... 218
03/12/2012 ..... 681 (352) .... 1,820 (1,179) ....... 2,501 (1,531) ... 206
03/06/2012 ..... 851 (468) .... 3,110 (1,752) ....... 3,961 (2,220) ... 297
02/28/2012 ... 1,030 (594) .... 4,687 (2,384) ....... 5,717 (2,798) ... 280
02/21/2012 ... 1,150 (701) .... 6,130 (2,912) ....... 7,280 (3,613) ... 256
02/14/2012 ... 1,400 (904) .... 7,087 (3,195) ....... 8,487 (4,099)
^^^^^^^ A Dozen Eggs Group Starts ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
02/07/2012 ... 1,840 (1,147)
01/31/2012 ... 2,640 (~1,700)
01/24/2012 ... 2,645 (1,716)
TABLE NOTES:
(1) 11eggs is the count of eggs among users who hatched up to 11 eggs.
(2) 12obtained is the additional eggs not included in 11eggs value since I do the hatched list first.
(3) New Users is the change in the total count of users who have obtained at least one egg from the prior week.
The new users count gives us a general idea of how many interactions will be needed for our goal over the long term.
Simple math:
280 new users / week = 40/day * 100 interactions/egg * 12 eggs = 48,000 interactions/day
Yikes!
But this is conservative for many reasons: some new users never obtain any eggs, retire from the game before reaching 12eggs and the eggs will receive interactions from other players. So our group really needs to be providing perhaps 1/4 of this level of assistance or 12,000 interactions per day. Assuming our members are doing their daily 200 this would mean about 60 members while we are at about half of this level.
Posted by: Jacin Tatt Feb 11 2012, 07:08 PM
Yay, it's great to see that this is finally accepted 
I love the group's goals and I can't wait to help make it a success!
Posted by: Matt Cat Feb 11 2012, 09:24 PM
Oh, whoops. Forgot to make the banner background transparent! 
I'll fix that right away. In the meantime, let's get-a-hatchin'!
Posted by: PkmHunter Feb 12 2012, 01:39 AM
Yay this is awesome, our idea is unique, our goal is extensive, especially for the newcomers 
The 3 links TM posted in http://forums.gtsplus.net/index.php?s=&showtopic=62345&view=findpost&p=2160908 can be used again in Beta, you just need to add "new" before gpxplus. I put all 3 here for your convenience.
http://new.gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_hatched/9999
http://new.gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_obtained/9999
http://new.gpxplus.net/users/online/9999
Posted by: Katniss Feb 12 2012, 01:50 AM
Great idea and I am happy to help with ideas and suggestions.
Posted by: RainWater Feb 12 2012, 03:01 AM
this should be a great group
Posted by: Barney Stinson Feb 12 2012, 03:08 AM
As I suggested in my form, we can construct a general massage that welcoming new users. The massage shouldn't be too long so he ain't get tired of reading the massage. But it shouldn't be too short either 'cause it'll be very difficult to understand in one sentence how this site works.
Anyway, if you want I can write draft for the massage and post it here so you can suggest any changes.
Edit: Done today the 1.8k clicks to <12 eggs hatched users.
Posted by: ShatteredGlass Feb 12 2012, 11:11 AM
I sent the membership form and I filled it out correctly but I'm not on the user list? Why?
Posted by: Tyranisaur Feb 12 2012, 12:31 PM
What is considered the best way of clicking users that haven't hatched any eggs? This is that we can use http://gpxplus.net/users/ to find all users, and then go to the last page. That would be the newest users because it is sorted by id numbers. But this list has a lot more eggs than the stat for eggs hatched total, so there might be some users that have hatched more eggs with that method.
Posted by: Klaine Feb 12 2012, 12:58 PM
I agree; I've suggested that before as well. But also, not only is the group dedicated to helping out new users, but mostly users who have not hatched eggs yet. Surprisingly, many of those users have already hatched a few eggs. I believe it is the users who have not hatched eggs at all yet that we need to focus on, before even more of them quit.
Posted by: PkmHunter Feb 12 2012, 01:31 PM
I'm sure TM is busy with something on her quiet Sunday. Everything should be all set soon
I agree; I've suggested that before as well. But also, not only is the group dedicated to helping out new users, but mostly users who have not hatched eggs yet. Surprisingly, many of those users have already hatched a few eggs. I believe it is the users who have not hatched eggs at all yet that we need to focus on, before even more of them quit.
I think we can use both methods to help people out. However if you want to save time clicking, I'd suggest you to click eggs only.
Posted by: Zakariah Feb 12 2012, 01:48 PM
Just been accepted in.
Really do think the idea of this group is great and original.
Look forward to contributing
Posted by: Barney Stinson Feb 12 2012, 01:53 PM
I rather use ThunderMoss method, cause this way I click only on users with less then 12 eggs hatched.
Your suggested method may consist many users who already hatched much more then 12 eggs (like on the multiplyer today or by unique views). I prefer to first click on users that I'm 100% percent sure that they need help then users that I'm only 90% percent sure they need help.
Anyway, i think the best way should be click the users on the eggs_hatched list and then go by the id.
Posted by: Giraffe A Laugh Feb 12 2012, 03:48 PM
To be honest, I think Ty's method is really good aha, I'll just do both methods anyways, and also, thanks for accepting me into the group xp
I look forward to helping the newer members out
Posted by: Mizuki Himeji Feb 12 2012, 03:55 PM
I will do Ty's method whenever I am on my pc
Posted by: Barney Stinson Feb 12 2012, 04:23 PM
What about the eggs obtained list?
This list should do the job.
Posted by: Tadpole Feb 12 2012, 07:42 PM
Many people on the last page of the 'Pokemon Obtained' list have hatched 0 eggs. Just the random few that i clicked on.
This list should do the job.
I guess this would work too... i just wish "0" was included in the eggs hatched stats.
Posted by: Klaine Feb 12 2012, 08:10 PM
An issue with the "Eggs Hatched" list is that some eggs on there come from banned/suspended accounts. This interrupts clicking, and the main banned user was banned over a year ago. I've reported the user's account. Hopefully it will be deleted so that clicking will be more efficient with that particular list.
Posted by: Jacin Tatt Feb 12 2012, 08:13 PM
Hopefully that won't interrupt it too badly. At any rate, once we've got all the inactive users eggs to 100%, this will be a much easier and more effective task. The end result of this groups efforts is basically going to be an increase in the active user base of the site, which I can't wait for. The more people playing, the better
Posted by: Matt Cat Feb 12 2012, 09:40 PM
And with that, faster hatching for us if they return the favor.
It'd be nice to click more active users rather than resort to the random list on a day where you want to click a ton. At least the clicks will actually do something then. =P
But yeah. I might stick to doing 1-2 pages a day for now (I open 1000 users at a time after all) and click aimlessly from there. A lot of the last page has already been reduced to Pokémon only. XD
Posted by: Velocity Feb 12 2012, 10:10 PM
Like many have said I think it's great that this group is doing something to get all inactive users eggs to 100% maturity so that we can help out those new beginners and ultimately have a more interactive online user list. But I also think we should explore why those inactive users leave after such a short time being on this site. (whether it's a few days or weeks) After searching the questions and help side of the forums, many new users find it hard to click, collect points, pass orbs etc, get achievements and do explorations. Even though we all find it relatively easy. I think we should create a beginner user manual which will ultimately help these beginners navigate there way around the site. (Again I know it's easy to click on the help page and find the answer) But again many users a put off by the amount of information on the page or simply don't know how to. If we can make it seem easier for new users to interact with others then I think we will achieve the groups goal.
Feel free to add anything on to this or expand on it if you think it's a good idea, Ultimately our goal for this group is all the same so even if we don't run with this I would like to feel that I have tried to contributed in one way or another.
Posted by: Jacin Tatt Feb 12 2012, 10:23 PM
Nice idea Velocity. I think that could work pretty well
Also - http://gpxplus.net/users/list/364
That isn't going to be helpful all the time, but its basically the users who have signed up most recently. If we also worked on clicking that (the most recent new members) we could be helping them right away. If they see their eggs maturing quickly they will be inspired to stay a little longer and explore more.
Posted by: Barney Stinson Feb 12 2012, 11:22 PM
@Velocity, I already offered this idea in the first page.
Also - http://gpxplus.net/users/list/364
That isn't going to be helpful all the time, but its basically the users who have signed up most recently. If we also worked on clicking that (the most recent new members) we could be helping them right away. If they see their eggs maturing quickly they will be inspired to stay a little longer and explore more.
This list as already been offered by Tyranisaur. But as I said there is the eggs obtained lists. Thus lists organized by the count of eggs that obtained by the user and if user obtained <12 eggs it means he hatched less then 12 eggs. The ones that not on this list are users who didn't obtained any eggs yet so there are no eggs to interact with in their party.
Eggs Obtained list is my new method
Posted by: Velocity Feb 12 2012, 11:33 PM
@Barney, yes you did mention constructing a general message on how the site works I am simply "adding", "extending", "elaborating" or even putting my own spin on creating a new user manual. Anyway that's beside the point, if anyone has anything to add to this or think it's a good idea I think we should run with this idea.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 13 2012, 02:49 AM
This list should do the job.
I worked my way through this list yesterday up to about 10 obtained eggs. I did not think there would be many eggs to do as I assumed they would have hatched at least 1 egg so already have been covered by my passage through the basic 'Eggs Hatched' list. Boy was I surprised.
There were thousands and thousands of eggs to click! These users might have obtained almost a dozen eggs but apparently they abandoned them without hatching and got more.
The majority of the users were in the lower obtained eggs count but there were still plenty of eggs right up until the last pages of the list.
I think this is a very interesting approach to reach the 0-egg group and might be better overall than the more obvious 'Eggs Hatched.' However, it is full of players who have quit and it will take some effort to polish those eggs off. My clicking of the 'Eggs Hatched' list for several weeks did reduce it and our combined attentions will steadily make the process quicker.
Other Comments:
The use of the 'new users' from the end of the general 'User List' is something I never considered. I sure with the list could be sorted in the reverse order, however, since with 1,000 users per page I have a list of almost 1,000 users some of whom have been here for quite a while. I clicked them all (eggs and pokemon) just for good measure and to gain a feel for this approach.
Several members have commented we should consider asking for some lists to be provided which would include the 0-egg/new users in a format most useful for our goal. I think we should first apply ourselves using the tools at hand and then after we have learned more and demonstrated our commitment make a request for a new list from the devs.
-TM
Posted by: Barney Stinson Feb 13 2012, 02:59 AM
They abandoned eggs, so it means they need a basic knowledge of the site.
I wrote a draft for manual/welcome massage for the new users:
To help you to get familiar with the site here a few things that might help you with that:
1. First of all you should to know how to obtain eggs and pokemon. In this game there is a Shelter and Lab.
In the Lab there are eggs that proffesor cypress lab produce. In the Shelter there are pokemon and eggs that
abandoned by other users or eggs that other users daycare produce.
2. You should always remember that this site is basically on hatching eggs so the best way to do that it's to
interact with other users party and by that they'll probably interact with your eggs and pokemon back.
For optimazing your clicking technique there is a guide on the forum:
<link>
3. The second thing you should know about is the shop, the shop is the place you can buy things that help you
with evolving, things that help you with hatching faster and getting more eggs and pokemon. There are several
places in the shop you can visit and purchasing staff. The way to obtain points is to do several staff on the site,
like adopting an egg/pokemon, interact with egg/pokemon, battle in the battle tower or the vs. seeker.
4. Another thing that this site is based on is explorations. Each exploration has requirments and once you qualify the
requirments you embark on the exploration and start to do tasks. Once you finished all the tasks of an exploration you'll
get a prize (Egg of a legendary pokemon or a rare pokemon for this site and sometimes even rare items).
Good luck :D
Give a comment on changes that should be made in this.
Posted by: Tyranisaur Feb 13 2012, 05:30 AM
The eggs obtained list is a very good idea. The users that have obtained 12 or less eggs and do have eggs can not have hatched 12 eggs. And yes, there is a lot more users on that list. Clicking all those eggs takes time. I am currently in the land of people that have obtained 6. And people, the pokemon/egg pages come with lists of people that have clicked them today. Looking at those, I am clearly walking in the footsteps of TM.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 13 2012, 06:38 AM
I made it up to about 10 or 11 today. Fortunately it gets a little bit easier towards the end. And it should steadily get easier as even this first week progresses since many of the eggs were quite mature.
Posted by: Giraffe A Laugh Feb 13 2012, 08:56 AM
There was a lot of mistakes that I noticed barney, so I went ahead and fixed them, but are you sure this is a good idea? I mean, yeah it'd be nice to send out a letter and all, but it could come off as annoying for other members. Anyways, here's the edited text.
Posted by: Jo Calderone Feb 13 2012, 09:31 AM
First of all I have to say the idea for this group is amazing and I'm so glad it came to living.
Ok so, I don't think that the idea of sending PM's to new users would be good. First of all, we ain't mods to send people PM's on how to use the site. Secondly, it'd be too long and not understandable for the new users. The ideas as an idea is great, but it's just too complicated for the newbies.
Posted by: Barney Stinson Feb 13 2012, 09:46 AM
Thanks for the fixing!! I have a bit of trouble with english since it's my second language (After hebrew). The letter looks much better now
Yeah, it'll be annoying to users who already know what's going around but they always can avoid the rest of the letter after reading the first line.
Posted by: Samoo Feb 13 2012, 11:55 AM
Ok so, I don't think that the idea of sending PM's to new users would be good. First of all, we ain't mods to send people PM's on how to use the site. Secondly, it'd be too long and not understandable for the new users. The ideas as an idea is great, but it's just too complicated for the newbies.
^ agreeing with this.
I'm not sure how fast people sign up to this place but chances are we'd end up sending multiple PM's to 1 person and we'd probably be bombarded with various things.
Posted by: Tyranisaur Feb 13 2012, 12:08 PM
The eggs obtained variant took a while, because there was a lot of eggs to click. But it does help our cause, because users that have obtained 12 or less eggs and still have eggs in their parties can not have hatched 12 eggs. And with our combined effort over time, the amount of inactive users' eggs will drop.
Also, pm's sounds like too much. Another idea is to make videos about aspects of the site, and put them up on youtube. That might even make more people testing out the site as well as giving good advice.
Posted by: Spades Slick Feb 13 2012, 04:38 PM
Just got the acceptance from ThunderMoss; thanks again. I think this is going to be a really nice way to get the less active users to become more involved once they see their own eggs getting a bit of attention.
I went ahead and interacted through the "Eggs Hatched" list, which didn't take too long at all. I don't have time right now to do the "Eggs Obtained" list, but won't those naturally intersect with the Hatched list? For example, if there are users with 12 eggs obtained but only 8 eggs hatched, we'd already run into them in the 8s of the Eggs Hatched list. At least, if one is only clicking their eggs, of course; allowing for Pokemon, too, would make the number of interactions in this group that much higher.
Posted by: Slix Feb 13 2012, 04:42 PM
I'm glad I can be a part of this! First off, I'll do some of the newest users and such whenever I get a chance to.
Why not make that a post somewhere that would be stickied and locked? Would that work?
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 13 2012, 05:47 PM
Each day about 20-30 new players show up.
I think this is something best left to the site staff. Sending these PMs could be considered spam. We could still prepare some very short (easily digested) guides and note them in profiles and status messages. This would be similar to how players are allowed to seek Pal Pad adds for Social Networking.
I also thought there would be a lot of overlap but after trying it there was far too little. I can understand those who have 1-6 eggs obtained but none hatched. The users with 11 obtained but zero hatched? Argh.
The eggs obtained list is presently much harder to work through but in the future might be the best list to use. Many of the eggs had high maturity so the list ought to become much more manageable over the next week even with just a few mass clickers from 12Eggs working on it.
I have updated the third post with the addition of the obtained eggs and general user lists since these appear to be the best two methods to reach the new users without needing to maintain our own list.
Posted by: Klaine Feb 13 2012, 06:07 PM
Since there seems to be a bit of confusion and many different posts regarding which lists would be best on click on:
I suggest that somewhere in the first few posts (the stickied posts, as Slix put it) we should have a list of lists, or rather a list of all of the different viable user lists that we can use to achieve our goal of helping newer users/those who have not hatched many eggs yet. This would also include a description of the pros and cons of clicking on each particular list. (I see this has already been done, leading to the next part.)
Taking it a step further would be to list which group members plan to click each list. For example:
Member A - Member B - Member E - Member F
Eggs Hatched
Member A - Member C - Member F
Eggs Obtained
Member A - Member B - Member D - Member E - Member G
Group members would choose for themselves which list(s) they plan to click. Such a list would not need to be updated frequently, as group members would tend to click the same lists continuously. This list of members also would not be too strict; if a member decides to randomly click one of the other lists they did not sign up for, they would not have to inform the group. This list would not be used to dictate which members are allowed to click which lists, but would show which lists we tend to click the most, so as to give members an idea of which lists need attention. This would help us to reach more eggs. If we use a system like this, it would be easier to determine if a particular set of eggs is being neglected.
I understand the idea isn't fully developed, but the gist of it is that we need a way of knowing how many members will tend to click what. If I'm being overly confusing, I apologize.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 13 2012, 06:21 PM
Do we really have a need to know which methods members are using? When the eggs mature we will stop clicking them. If they are hatched then that player moves one step closer out of where we are clicking.
I think it is useful to know what others are doing as a source of inspiration. However, time spent on lists or other stats is time not spent clicking.
I am open to posting information into the group posts on the first page. I am just trying to avoid letting myself get into any involvement in creating or maintaining the list (other than copy/paste). I do enjoy numbers and stats so this is a constant lure. I do hope someone decides to maintain some stats beyond my roughly once-per-week informal count of eggs in the various groups. These stats could be either our self-reported activity or measurements of the user/eggs in the target lists.
Regards,
-TM
Posted by: Brainwash Feb 13 2012, 10:15 PM
please! this is my first
Posted by: Tyranisaur Feb 14 2012, 10:50 AM
I will continue to use both the stats for eggs hatched and eggs obtained. That way, the only ones I'm not clicking that should be clicked, are users that have hatched no eggs but abandoned 12 or more. And I think that is unlikely to happen.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 16 2012, 02:59 PM
I noticed that when going to the last page of the user list I had to hit the '>>' link twice. The first time took me into some odd space... Then it occurred to me that there are links which would work regardless of the page list size settings. I have provided these below and updated the second post.
http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_hatched/9999
http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_obtained/9999
http://gpxplus.net/users/9999/9999
Posted by: Velocity Feb 17 2012, 03:08 AM
http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_hatched/9999
http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_obtained/9999
http://gpxplus.net/users/9999/9999
Thanks, for the update TM. I will start clicking (using the links) soon after some dinner. I think sushi it is.
Posted by: Starships Feb 17 2012, 04:45 PM
Just an update.
Changed from Samoo > Starships
Posted by: Big Papi Feb 18 2012, 09:15 PM
Don't think I posted here after my acceptance; thank you TM.
I love the idea of this group and find it a great way to help new users not quit or forget this site.
I clicked today and the list of users with less than 12 eggs hatched is about 1,500 eggs now .
Posted by: Mizuki Himeji Feb 18 2012, 09:21 PM
I am clicking on the newest users's eggs till it is reset I have click 750 atm
Posted by: Matt Cat Feb 18 2012, 11:11 PM
I tend to click free-range through these lists when I have a spare moment or two, and I'm sure a few members here will do the same. It shouldn't matter too much if one list is getting a lot more attention than another; either way we're chewing through the eggs of members both new and inactive and clicking new ones each and every time we get one or more eggs to breaking point. It's just as productive to utilize one set list as it is to split lists between members in the end.
I don't see anything wrong with the idea, but it isn't one I'd deem necessary. If it does take off later, then I'll be more than happy to do my part and use a list I'm allocated to. =P
Posted by: ThunderMoss Feb 19 2012, 06:42 PM
The various lists are all helpful as noted by several.
It does matter where on the lists you apply yourself... start at the end (fewest hatched, fewest obtained, newest users) as these are the most likely to be newer players. As we whittle away at the retired players it will mean that over time the daily 200 interactions to these groups will be applying more and more to both current players and a wider range (eggs hatched of 1-2 rather than only 1).
I am tracking one set of stats on a weekly basis and will post the data after tomorrow night's update.
We are making good progress on reducing the eggs of retired players. The eggs hatched list is much fewer eggs in the 1-11 range and the obtained eggs list is also easier but still a lot of interactions so thank you to all those who are helping with thousands of clicks to work on this one.
Posted by: Velocity Feb 19 2012, 09:47 PM
Thanks, TM. Can't wait till we get to see the stats. Hopefully we are chomping through these inactive users so we can focus more on the groups goal. :P
Posted by: Esc Feb 19 2012, 10:34 PM
Haven't posted here yet, but here we go.!
I clicked somewhere around 10 pages yesterday for least obtained eggs (and only clicked eggs) Since tomorrows going to be a multiplier, it'll help a lot to go through the inactive players!
yay, just glad to help cause I know how long it takes to hatch eggs when u start :>
Posted by: Angelzrulez Feb 20 2012, 04:38 AM
Haven't posted here since I was accepted, first I would like to say thanks TM
Also, I'd like to see more people join this group because it's a fantastic idea and it would be wonderful to see it become popular and quite successful
Posted by: PkmHunter Feb 23 2012, 01:51 PM
Yeah TM, I'm looking forwards to your stats too, hope we could learn something from it
Quick observation over a week clicking: Most users under the 2 categories "http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_hatched/999" and "http://gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_obtained/9999" have taken more Pokemon from Safari than Eggs from Shelter and are most likely to be early quitters. It's simply because if they were active and enthusiastic, they would have moved up away from the bottom of these lists. So I often clicked from the http://gpxplus.net/users/all/999 first since it's more likely we would catch their interests if we helped them to hatch their first dozen fast enough. We would normally find online users at Newest Users list too so if we all focus on this, I think we would advance our goal faster. But then again it would be hard to identify if one has hatched his/her first dozen eggs without these first 2 lists.
Anyway feel free to comment
P.S: FYI, you could use this: http://gpxplus.net/users/all/999 as a substitution for http://gpxplus.net/users/9999/9999
Posted by: Mizuhisa Feb 26 2012, 08:39 PM
Mizuki Himeji is now Mizuhisa
Posted by: liquidfired Feb 29 2012, 03:44 AM
Im new and i would really like to join
Posted by: Giraffe A Laugh Feb 29 2012, 08:01 AM
Please read the first post in this thread, it'll give you important information on how you can do that c:
Posted by: Tyranisaur Mar 2 2012, 06:29 PM
I clicked all the eggs belong to users that have obtained 12 or less eggs again today. I just want to say that a lot of those eggs are well over halfway to maturing. A quick little observation I do sometimes, is to check how many users have interacted with some of the eggs I'm clicking for this. Looking at that might get a little demotivating sometimes, seeing as there aren't really a lot of users doing the same as me. This might just be an effect of timezones, and other users doing it at later times, but still demotivating. Are people willing to stick to this, or was it just a nice thought when it started?
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 4 2012, 05:54 PM
I have been too long in posting some stats for the Group. I have been doing 12eggs and 12obtained every day and most days I go all the way up to 100eggs (e.g. those eggs of users who have hatched 100 or less).
We are making progress and I am gaining some perspective on how much effort will be involved once we finish clearing the inactive players. As noted by Tyranisaur many of the inactiveplayer's eggs are getting mature and the proportion of Slime Slugmas and other 20k/30k eggs is definitely rising sharply.
So what does this progress look like? Once per week during the wee hours of the server I work my way through the 12eggs and 12 obtained and record how many interactions this requires and how many users it includes. During this time I do not do any other interactions so I can just use my total stats to count. This takes about an hour so is much nicer to do on a non-multiplier day.
Date ....... 11eggs (users) . 12obtained (users) . New Users
02/28/2012 ... 1,030 (594) .... 4,687 (2,384) ...... 280
02/21/2012 ... 1,150 (701) .... 6,130 (2,912) ...... 256
02/14/2012 ... 1,400 (904) .... 7,087 (3,195)
^^^^^^^ A Dozen Eggs Group Starts ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
02/07/2012 ... 1,840 (1,147)
01/31/2012 ... 2,640 (~1,700)
01/24/2012 ... 2,645 (1,716)
TABLE NOTES:
(1) 11eggs is the count of eggs among users who hatched up to 11 eggs.
(2) 12obtained is the additional eggs not included in 11eggs value since I do the hatched list first.
(3) New Users is the change in the total count of users who have obtained at least one egg from the prior week.
I will gather these simple stats each week and post them to the thread. I will most likely keep a copy of them in one of the posts I reserved for group use on the first page.
The new users count gives us a general idea of how many interactions will be needed for our goal over the long term.
Simple math:
280 new users / week = 40/day * 100 interactions/egg * 12 eggs = 48,000 interactions/day
Yikes!
But this is conservative for many reasons: some new users never obtain any eggs, retire from the game before reaching 12eggs and the eggs will receive interactions from other players. So our group really needs to be providing perhaps 1/4 of this level of assistance or 12,000 interactions per day. Assuming our members are doing their daily 200 this would mean about 60 members while we are at about half of this level.
I am considering adding two new levels of membership which like the group itself are wholly voluntary. One would be for the very active (e.g. do all the 12eggs and at least 6Obtained every day) and one more modest (100 or 50 from the Obtained List). Any thoughts on this? If we do offer a lower level of activity option then it might be appropriate to relax the membership requirements.
EDIT1: fixed table formatting to line up columns
EDIT2: added table notes for clarification and renamed '12eggs' to '11eggs'.
Posted by: Tyranisaur Mar 5 2012, 11:53 AM
I have a question about the stats. Is overlapping considered on that? I mean, do all the eggs counted for hatched count only for that and the number for obtained only count for that? If you found the stat on the same day, how can you know how many of the eggs are in both? Lately, I have been doing the obtained one first, then seeing fewer eggs on the hatched list than I think there would be if I did it in the other order.
Also, I want this to be fully clear. Are we going to help users that have not hatched 12 yet? If that is true, then there is no reason to click all the users that have hatched 12. On the page where 11 and 12 meets on the user page, you are bound to have a few users that have hatched 12, but I'm talking about all of them. In the same manner, users that have obtained 12 eggs and still have at least one egg(which is what we are clicking), they can't have hatched 12 eggs, because you obviously need to have obtained an egg to hatch an egg.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 5 2012, 04:20 PM
Excellent questions and these are ones that grind at my mind each time I collect the stats. Since I do them usually late at night it is easy for me to wonder if I am doing it the right (consistent at least) way.
The stat for 12eggs is actually only through those who have hatched 11. I think I will rename it '11eggs' so this is more clear.
I do the 'eggs hatched' before the 'eggs obtained'. Probably almost all of the 'eggs hatched' would have been on the 'eggs obtained' list. I will add a note to the stats for this.
The group's goal is to help everyone hatch 12 eggs. So the user list page which has 11 & 12 has some who have graduated from our target audience. The stats note this as I do this page manually rather than opening sets of eggs. This is tedious and likely not completely accurate as Ferroseeds look pretty much the same in the small sprite so I probably click some pokemon and I also probably miss some eggs since they are pretty sparse.
Long term we will be using the 'eggs obtained' list. It has a whole lot of retired players on it still so I think it makes it hard for a group member's 200 interactions to be landing on users who are still playing. The 'eggs hatched' list has the advantage of several extra weeks of clearing out since I started before the group became active.
-TM
Posted by: Tyranisaur Mar 6 2012, 04:42 AM
I hope I'm not being too annoying here. But how exactly are users in that range graduated from our target? I mean, they have obtained almost 13 eggs, and still have eggs. Users that have obtained 12 eggs and hatched 12 eggs shouldn't have any clickable eggs. If we want to help user hatch their 12th egg, we want to click eggs that might be the 12th, 13th, 14th and so on if the users have multiple eggs atm, because they have not yet hatched 12 anyway. Same story goes for the ones that have hatched 11. If that was what you are getting at. If you think users have obtained a lot of eggs but haven't hatched any, because of releasing, or something, I think they still are in our target group. Actually, there might be user in our target group that have obtained 13 or more eggs, but released eggs and not hatched any. But I say we only use the obtained list up to(and including) 12, because they can by logic not have hatched even 12, because they still have eggs, at least the ones we are clicking.
Which leads to the second part. Are you saying that you are manually counting the visible eggs on the page? If so, why do you do that when we can use option to only open tabs of eggs. And then looking at the interaction stat after the last calculation of stats. Our goal is only to help users hatch their eggs, so there is no reason to interact with hatched pokemon, and therefore ignore hatched pokemon in what we are making considerations about. And that is why we go up to 12 and not 11 on the obtained list.
And again, I hope I don't appear too annoying about this. I just feel that there is something to point out, and I might be wrong about that.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 6 2012, 06:32 AM
Selecting 12 as the cutoff for eggs obtained is arbitrary. If users have obtained more than this but not yet hatched 12 then they are on their own. I honestly am amazed at how many users were in the obtained12 group but have hatched no eggs. (They had eggs in their party but were not clicked while doing a pass through the eggs hatched.)
Without access to the database to do some queries or to generate a list specific to our needs there will be some uncertainty and I think setting it to 12obtained feels reasonable.
In the future doing 12obtained and then doing 11hatched would get those who had hatched at least one egg while having obtained more than 12 eggs but not yet hatching 12 eggs. Does that sentence make sense?
In the future it is our hope that essentially all NEW users to the site do actually hatch eggs rather than giving up on them and trying a new batch so those users in the 12obtained is within a few days of their arrival present within the 11egg group. The beauty of the 'eggs hatched' list is we can see who has clearly achieved our goal of 12 eggs hatched. Our difficulty is in finding users who have hatched exactly zero eggs. Using the 12obtained limits at least covers those users newest to the site and hopefully we can get one of their eggs hatched before they obtain their 13th egg.
I open the eggs manually only on the 12/11 eggs hatched and 13/12 eggs obtained lists so that I am only including those within the core groups for gathering consistent stats. As I have noted, most days I actually click the eggs hatched lists much further. I skip the pokemon on these pages. I do use my total interactions for the day stat for the actual counting. This is why I cannot interrupt the process once it starts to do return clicks.
Is this clearer? I am feeling it might not be clearer so will go do some more clicks.
>>> Click them all and let the server sort them out! <<<
Posted by: Tyranisaur Mar 6 2012, 07:30 AM
Yeah, makes sense now. And a agree, we have no reason to be looking for users that fit our target group in places where there are others, so stopping at 12 obtained is what we will do. And the counting on the last page seems fair as well. I will always click the eggs on the entire page, just to make it simple.
And one the overlap thing, could you alternate the order of which list you do first? So that we do get a clearer view of the actual overlap.
As now now today, I have 3,868 interactions. All of those were from the eggs obtained stat, clicking only eggs, but I did click a few that have obtained 13 that were on the last page with 12s. Now, checking how many are remaining on the hatched list. And now I have 4,381 interactions. Which means that there were only 513 more eggs to click on the hatched list. And there were like 800 users with 12 eggs hatched, so the number might be too high.
Looks like we are making progress!
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 9 2012, 06:41 AM
I updated the fourth post in the thread with the stats for this week. Definite progress and still very steep drops which I hope will continue another couple of weeks so the remaining eggs are all from players who are still active.
Quick link to the post: http://forums.gtsplus.net/index.php?s=&showtopic=62345&view=findpost&p=2160909
@Tyranisaur
I did collect stats again the night after the usual weekly run while doing the two lists in the reverse order. My values were comparable to yours but hopefully slightly smaller since it was a couple of days later. EDIT: If you do hatched first and then continue a little past 12obtained you will see that there are only very few additional eggs in the 13-15 obtained range. These users were most likely already clicked during the hatched list process.
On a different note... the site seems to be getting a steady increase in new users. Hopefully if they see that eggs do hatch more will linger.
Today I finished 11eggs and 155obtained (went through the lists to 11 eggs hatched and 155 obtained). Doing 10,000 eggs is not particularly exciting but it is much simpler without having Pokemon mixed in.
Posted by: Velocity Mar 9 2012, 06:50 AM
I must admit that I have been very slack with the core activity/goal of this group. I will try my best to start interacting with these users eggs and hopefully help get rid of all the inactive ones.
Though I must admit it is really good to see some stats, Thank you very much TM for providing them. It's also good seeing more users join the site, hopefully they are encouraged to continue hatching their eggs.
edit: I found some much needed motivation and did 1k interactions (User ranking in Eggs Obtained) starting on the last page of course. Also I was just wondering what is the best user list to click on? I was unsure so I just did least eggs obtained?
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 10 2012, 11:32 PM
Busy clicking day as I sought a personal Pass Orbs record.
I made it through 11eggs AND 12obtained TWICE today since I used the special incense. Hopefully today and the remaining multiplier days during the SWSH will enable us to burn through the eggs of retired players. If I have the time to do the clicks I will probably use incense on all of the multiplier days.
Posted by: Spades Slick Mar 11 2012, 12:12 PM
I've been somewhat off-and-on with interacting with these groups; I try to focus on them especially when it's Sunny weather and during multiplier days.
TM, can you explain the "12obtained" column? Is this everyone who has obtained 12 or fewer eggs but was not counted among the "11users"?
Right now my strategy is to cover users in the Eggs Hatched list between 1 and 11 inclusive; I'll hit up any 12-eggs hatched if they're on the last page. That would leave only people with no eggs hatched at all from the "Eggs Obtained" list.
My question to the group: do you think it's even worth clicking people with 7+ eggs obtained? I mean, especially when it starts to get up to 9 or 10 eggs obtained but none hatched; they're ACTIVELY dropping eggs for some reason, and I'd feel like I was wasting clicks if they were going to just drop those eggs I interacted with anyways.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 11 2012, 04:55 PM
Yes, exactly. The 12obtained includes users new and old who have never hatched any eggs. Some players do seem to drop eggs and just try another one obviously. It would be great if their eggs were maturing at a pace they did not give up which is the inspiration for this group.
I have not look at the details of those who have 12obtained (but zero hatched since I can see their egg to click on the Obtained List after doing the Hatched List). The eggs will most likely be adopted by someone from the shelter so the investment is not really lost but rather goes to a kind adopter rather than a new user. If a player for some reason keeps dropping partials then they would move out of the range (12obtained) we are applying ourselves.
There has been a pretty steep drop in the numbers for both hatch/obtained groups and I suspect this weekend will take a huge bite out of them since I plan to do another double-pass today which would mean my interactions alone will have been the equivalent of over a dozen regular interactions. With all of our efforts I would guess we could see the counts drop to half of last week's values.
As noted above, if they are actively dropping eggs repeatedly they will pass 12 Obtained and we will no longer target them. The number who are at 7+ and haven't hatched any is pretty small and seems to drop off pretty steep.
Posted by: Spades Slick Mar 11 2012, 06:37 PM
Yes, exactly. The 12obtained includes users new and old who have never hatched any eggs. Some players do seem to drop eggs and just try another one obviously. It would be great if their eggs were maturing at a pace they did not give up which is the inspiration for this group.
I have not look at the details of those who have 12obtained (but zero hatched since I can see their egg to click on the Obtained List after doing the Hatched List). The eggs will most likely be adopted by someone from the shelter so the investment is not really lost but rather goes to a kind adopter rather than a new user. If a player for some reason keeps dropping partials then they would move out of the range (12obtained) we are applying ourselves.
There has been a pretty steep drop in the numbers for both hatch/obtained groups and I suspect this weekend will take a huge bite out of them since I plan to do another double-pass today which would mean my interactions alone will have been the equivalent of over a dozen regular interactions. With all of our efforts I would guess we could see the counts drop to half of last week's values.
As noted above, if they are actively dropping eggs repeatedly they will pass 12 Obtained and we will no longer target them. The number who are at 7+ and haven't hatched any is pretty small and seems to drop off pretty steep.
Alright, that's fair. I haven't been able to hit the "Obtained" list today yet, but I may after the Snow passes. I must say I'm impressed with the dent we've been able to put into these eggs; looks like a lot of what's remaining for the low Obtained/low Hatched group are the 20k+ eggs and those that have been obtained in the last few days/weeks (new users).
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 11 2012, 07:41 PM
I appreciate the efforts of everyone in the group.
I just wanted to repeat that the expectation is that group members will only do 200+ interactions each day and a total of 2,000 each week in the target group (hatched and/or obtained list - your choice). Spreading the 2,000 over more days gives more of them to the newest site members. Based on last week's stats 200 interactions is already 1/4 of the eggs in the fewest eggs hatched target group.
Today I continued my excessive assistance and went up to 100 Eggs Hatched. I am not sure I will go that far up the list after using the Incense. I only went to 12 Obtained since this ought to cover most of the users still active who have hatched zero eggs.
I am looking forward to seeing the stats when I gather them in two days. They look even nicer in a simple chart so I might sort out how to easily publish a chart.
Posted by: Velocity Mar 14 2012, 01:36 AM
I did 500 interactions to the 1-11 eggs obtained range.
Due to today's multiplier, I might do some more at a later time.
Posted by: Jen Mar 14 2012, 01:45 AM
On the days I click, and have cleared out the online list, I tend to target the newest members and not the main list this group is aiming for. I hope that is okay... Tonight I made it through to the people who registered early January of this year, clicking both eggs and pokemon, and it was nice to see that quite a few of them said march 13th as last active day. 
Posted by: teenbulma Mar 14 2012, 10:33 PM
Changed my username from DJ PON 3 back to teenbulma!
Also pointing out that I can only click on gpx mobile for now since my comp is getting redone. I can't click on the comp I'm using to post this because its slow as balls.. :/
Hope to get back into the swing of things soon!
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 15 2012, 02:56 PM
Thanks for some feedback! It has been a little quiet in the thread lately.
@Jen
I think your approach sounds fine. It definitely hits the new users and that is the goal: help the new users so they can see some progress and hopefully more will stick around. The other two lists still include a lot of eggs from players who have retired but a lot fewer week by week.
I will update the stats in the fourth post just after I post this message. < DONE
@teenbulma
I will update your name in the member list. < DONE
EDIT/Addendum:
I thought with the SWSH and multiplier weekend we might drop the combined eggs in the target lists by half. This was a little optimistic but we did manage another drop of 37% to a combined total of only 2,501 eggs and 1,531 users. This is a huge drop from nearly three times these values only a month ago.
Pi day, the ongoing SWSH and another multiplier weekend should help finish off the eggs of the retired players. Particularly now that I finally discovered the joy of Odd Incense. Somehow I thought it was a one-time use and could never figure out why it cost so much. DUH. If some of the other hyper-clickers could use Odd Incense on the multiplier days that would be great.
Posted by: Gambrinous Antiscian Mar 19 2012, 03:03 AM
My activity here has been shockingly low as of late. I'm sure you're all aware of why, though. =P
Pretty much posting to say that I am alive, and I'll be focusing more on the goal of the group now that I have the computer to use rather than Kady's phone. Of course, I have to wait until a ridiculous time like 3am (when they're all sleeping) to click, but I'm still sleeping like I'm in Australia. Sleeping through the morning for the win!
But yeah. Sorry for my inactivity in the thread. I promise I'll be more alive when I get home and sleep off the jet-lag that follows. 
Posted by: teenbulma Mar 19 2012, 09:21 PM
Either we really got through a ton of untouched eggs or my new processer and motherboard are just that awesome. Took me about 10 mins to get up to the #12 eggs hatched stat. I'll probably keep going for a bit to make up for what I haven't been able to do for the past 2-3 weeks
Posted by: Tyranisaur Mar 20 2012, 03:01 AM
We have reduced the eggs a lot. There is no batch of over 100 eggs per 1000 users on any of the main 2 stats we use. It gets annoying to have so many small batches of eggs.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 20 2012, 03:41 AM
We have indeed made tremendous progress in clearing out the two lists. I clicked a little slower for a bit and other than some legendaries which were mostly 75%+ complete the eggs in the lists are from the last week.
For practical purposes we have cleared out the eggs of retired players. Perhaps they will return and hatch them sometime.
I updated the data in the fourth post here: http://forums.gtsplus.net/index.php?s=&showtopic=62345&view=findpost&p=2160909
The interactions to complete the 11eggs hatched group dropped by 45% this week and the 12eggs obtained dropped more than 50%. Multipliers of 4.0 and Odd Incense go a long long way even with limited numbers.
Hopefully the egg reduction also reflects that our attentions are helping users to graduate by hatching their 12th egg. It certainly is not for want of effort on our part!
I agree that it is awkward to have to work through so many pages of lists just to find the few eggs. What I have done is create several sets of bookmarks which cover the lists. This way I can open all the lists at one time and after a short wait the lists are at least ready for me to get started rather than having to manually load and wait for each new page. I use several sets since Opera gets a little anxious when I open more than about a dozen of the list pages at once.
The whole process is less efficient now as there are still the banned/suspended users but it is a whole lot less clicking.
If you feel it as gotten too easy... I would suggest continuing on through to 24 eggs hatched if you are so inclined. 
Posted by: iloveinfernape Mar 22 2012, 02:19 AM
Aww, I'd love to join but I don't have that many interactions or hatched eggs 
(128 hatched eggs, 2361 interactions) It sounds like a really good cause.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Mar 23 2012, 04:37 PM
I am preparing for a week vacation and wanted to ask if someone in the group would collect the stats for eggs/users for the hatched & obtained lists as I have for the past while.
This should be done about next Tuesday and could be posted to the thread or sent to me via PM.
Any assistance with this would be appreciated. I will have access to the mobile site but generally am going to be enjoying the vacation.
When I return I will probably be adjusting the membership requirements for the group by adding some additional higher levels of commitment and a more modest entry level. I know a few members of the group have been providing far more than the minimum interactions and they could be some sort of member+ (I have no idea for titles and have only briefly explore a couple possible higher tiers). The entry level 'associate' membership would be for users who have more modest levels of past engagement and also wish to provide a more modest, but steady assistance to the group.
We also will be adding some optional group activities/contests/custom graphics depending on the inspiration of the group leaders who should all be thinking about this in the interim.
Regards,
ThunderMoss
Posted by: Gambrinous Antiscian Mar 24 2012, 07:20 AM
Speaking of which, the new Berry Feeder method of clicking on the new GPX+ should allow us to later change our aim to the first 100 eggs, provided we can all match Jeff's estimated 20-30k per hour. Either way, I'm looking forward to it!
On another note, I'll be flying home tomorrow, so my activity will soon be on the rise -- at least once I fall back into a routine of sorts. I've been clicking the remnants of the eggs you guys have left for me whenever I get a chance to use a computer, and I must say the progress made is phenomenal! We'll have the inactive users cleared out in no time at all!
Posted by: Tyranisaur Apr 1 2012, 07:08 AM
Has anyone else noticed that there are no unclickable eggs eggs anymore? Seems like they have un-suspended the users that appeared as banned. That happened a while ago, so it should probably have been pointed out earlier, in case the unclickable eggs were preventing users from doing their thing.
Posted by: teenbulma Apr 3 2012, 12:45 PM
So now with the new site being Beta'd, i was wondering how we were going to continue what we were doing ;p
So far I found that they have the option for "Users who have registered recently", and I've just been opening their eggs. Still gotta play around and see what else I can figure out. I guess sorting by achievements and Statistics isn't available yet but I'm sure we can probably go from the statistics like usual.
Posted by: Tyranisaur Apr 3 2012, 12:49 PM
You can go by stats, you just have to choose statistics from the option thing, and then you choose the stat in the option field to the right.
Posted by: teenbulma Apr 3 2012, 03:14 PM
OOoh gotcha. Stats wasn't highlighted so I thought it wasn't usable. Figured it out
Posted by: PkmHunter Apr 3 2012, 03:27 PM
The 3 links TM posted in http://forums.gtsplus.net/index.php?s=&showtopic=62345&view=findpost&p=2160908 can be used again in Beta, you just need to add "new" before gpxplus. I put all 3 here for your convenience.
http://new.gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_hatched/9999
http://new.gpxplus.net/users/stat/eggs_obtained/9999
http://new.gpxplus.net/users/online/9999
Posted by: Esc Apr 4 2012, 09:53 PM
Haven't posted in a while, but with the new site, it's been easier to click newly registered members.
Also, thnx to the links PkmHunter
Posted by: Gambrinous Antiscian Apr 16 2012, 01:48 AM
I love using the "All Users" list from time to time, and clicking through the entirety of a few of the pages. At least this lets me click a mix of active, new, and retired players, thus making it easier for me to get click-backs while eliminating more eggs owned by retired players.
Lately I've been mixing it up, though I always make sure I click everyone who's added me before I move on and click through other lists. Even with latency, 15k an hour isn't too shabby, so that at least lets me get some work on here done.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Apr 26 2012, 05:23 PM
I apologize for the long silent period. I had a nice trip and managed to do some hatching and clicking.
Apparently no one collected the stats for the week I was away but I did collect the two following weeks. They look pretty boring so I did not even process the data. Boring is good: we have cleared out the old eggs from retired players.
I am trying to explore new, much simpler to gather stats but it is hard to see much change in a system which has so so many accumulated (mostly retired) players. But I am starting to see some positive trends and will keep trying to evaluate the data to discern some positive feedback.
As noted by others, the new site offers a new means to reach the new players in a nicely order newest first list. While this is not wholly on target it at least has far fewer retired players. Some of the egg obtained lists of 1,000 users have ZERO eggs to click on them and most are less than two dozen. This makes for a lot of loading of page lists so low overall interaction rate.
Tyranisaur started a suggestion related our goals but it does not seem to have much traction. You can find it here: http://forums.gtsplus.net/index.php?showtopic=63246
For most of the time since starting Dozen Eggs I have been clicking up to Eggs Obtained 100 or 200 twice daily. I have dropped back to only 24 obtained so I can give a little more attention to the online users list. What has everyone else been doing? Please post so this thread can be more lively!
More soon as I am headed out into the sunshine.
Regards,
ThunderMoss
Posted by: Sweeter Apr 26 2012, 08:41 PM
After two and a half years, I finally decide to change my name! I used to be ShatteredGlass. I changed it because I've become a big fan of Gavin DeGraw over the past couple of weeks. I may change it back to SG after the 50-day or so period, I'll see.
Posted by: Tyranisaur Apr 27 2012, 03:13 PM
To be honest, I pretty much stopped doing our thing. Instead, I'm going more towards clicking every user that has been online on the day. A few times I may do the 1k most recent users' eggs, but that's not very often. I also noticed that if you go to 1k random users and click all their eggs, there's about 150 or so per page. That's a pretty rough estimate, but that might just be the best possible way to find eggs belonging to users that aren't high on the stats or online very often.
As much as I want to help more, I don't know what method we should use to do our thing.
Posted by: Jaysus May 1 2012, 10:33 PM
I have to say, i have been using the users who have been online option more recently, since it bypasses the people who have just stopped playing, while this may seem counter productive in relation to how we usually would be clicking; i.e trying to make all eggs for non active/quit accounts etc max maturity and as a result non interactable, i feel the users who have been online removes interactions going to people who don't need it, which means if we felt like it we could click users who have hatched up to a higher amount.
It also seems a better option in general since newer users are more likely to be online or at least come online daily for a while which means they are not only guaranteed to get interactions daily but possibly more interactions when their eggs hatch etc. 5 pages on the new site showing 1000 users per page is really easy to click through as well. At least that's my take on the whole thing.
Posted by: Gambrinous Antiscian May 1 2012, 10:37 PM
I've been doing the same thing as Tyranisaur and Jaysus. The majority of the inactive players have already had their eggs reach the point where they can't be clicked, so it makes sense to target only users who have been online during the day. Since a lot of people register on the site every day, it's one of the most conventional ways to click their eggs while also earning some click-backs from the more active players who log in for the day.
There are days where I click random lists, depending on my moods. If I feel like clicking, I'll click beyond who's been online today and those who have added me to their PalPad.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Jun 26 2012, 07:01 PM
Two months since the last post here.
I am still actively pursuing the eggs of the newest members. Each day I click the Eggs Obtained list up to 18 eggs obtained. I extended my personal range since there were simply not so many eggs and it was only a few more pages. The numbers of users drops off rapidly.
Oh, and I do this TWICE every day with the Odd Incense.
It is a little tiresome since this range covers more than 30,000 users on more than 30 user list pages. A half-dozen of these pages contain no eggs at all. We have maxed out the eggs of the retired players long ago. To make this a little more efficient I have these pages bookmarked in three folders -- I can only open one folder of bookmarks without too many of them stalling out and failing to load. Overall this takes about 15 minutes twice a day.
I think this is still the most effective way to reach the group's goal. However, it is not the most efficient since it requires a lot of loading of long user lists.
I will propose an easier alternative for the players who can use the new site: the New User List.
Since some of these users are already on their way (e.g. have hatched a dozen eggs already) faster than others this list will include those outside the target group. So if you want to click XXX eggs of the 12eggs target you should click some extra. I thought to suggest a specific multiple (1.5x or 2x) but think each group member can just choose how many extra to do.
We have gained a couple of new members recently which is impressive considering this thread has long been on the second page of the groups section.
I am still considering some additional member ranks (easier, harder and much harder) so we can select our level of interest and dedication to the goal. I am also still waiting for some responses from the other group leaders... anyone?
Regards,
ThunderMoss
Posted by: Gambrinous Antiscian Jun 30 2012, 06:38 AM
I've still been clicking through everyone who has been online every time I'm on (which has been daily for a while now). Reset for me is at 2pm, so I have an opportunity to click from late afternoon (depending on when I get home from work) right into the night, then again in the morning before going to work again. On my off days, I'm clicking right through the day, so nobody active will ever be missed if they've been on before I'm gone for the day.
I haven't set myself any daily target, since clicking everyone who has been online eliminates the vast majority of active players - old and new - in one hit. There are many times where I've used the Random List to get some extra clicks in for more Trinket Boxes, but I suppose I could arrange to target nothing but eggs there.
As for ranks: I'm all for them, but I'd like to see where more people stand on what kinds of ranks we should have in addition to the requirements for said ranks. Maybe we could develop some achievements of our own to strive for, just for something different to do? Maybe something like "collect 10 Trinket Boxes by clicking nothing but eggs", to encourage more egg-clicking, and shifting all the clicks that would go onto Pokémon right onto additional eggs, on any list you can find eggs on. Just an idea at this stage; feedback and suggestions are always welcome.
Posted by: ThunderMoss Jul 10 2012, 12:33 AM
Welcome two new members: http://gpxplus.net/user/pumpkinking0192 and http://gpxplus.net/user/The+Neverending+Meep
I am off to the beach so will not be around for a short while.
Happy Clickin 'n Hatchin
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EDIT: Welcome new member: http://gpxplus.net/user/DDLx
Posted by: Gambrinous Antiscian Jul 29 2012, 10:25 PM
Welcome to the club, guys! Also, nice name change @ Kiwi, if you ever see this post. ;P
Posted by: ThunderMoss Aug 14 2012, 06:33 PM
Welcome New Member: http://gpxplus.net/user/Shadow+the+Assassin
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Change in Clicking Method
The new site offers us a much easier way to help the newest members to the site:
http://new.gpxplus.net/users/register/1 << The newest members sorted by most recently registered.
We should use this list as the primary means. Some of the users will have well over a dozen eggs but they are all NEW members to the site which is our goal. If a user stays with GPX but drifts out of the new registered lists then we could still get them on the 'eggs hatched' lists but this is very tiresome. While this latter method is 100% on-target to those who have not hatched anything I think the new registrations provides the best match with the spirit of our goal.
I am thinking about increasing the number of eggs we should click since the berry feeder method is so rapid but I will save this for when I add some additional member levels.
(The above will be reflected in the first posts soon. Yes, I am not a very attentive administrator and you can send me a PM which I will happily delay reading and replying to confirm this.)
Regards,
ThunderMoss
Posted by: ThunderMoss Aug 23 2012, 02:39 PM
Welcome new member: http://gpxplus.net/user/Brandon+Smith
EDIT (to avoid repeat posting by same user):
Welcome new member: http://gpxplus.net/user/Nemu
Posted by: Nemu Aug 27 2012, 04:12 PM
Wow I'm in. Yes!
Just noticed. Brightened my day. Almost got off of the tablet, but this has encouraged me to stay and click.
Going with registered for now. Probably will change that eventually once I understand more how to find ? eggs hatched.
Is pretty tech stupid. XD
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