"Under God" in the Pledge |
Jul 12 2011, 11:45 PM
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Pokémon Champion Group: +Donors Posts: 3 057 Joined: 28-June 09 From: Smog Central, CA Member No.: 39 978 hue |
So, for awhile now I've been hearing that "Under God" has always been in the pledge of allegiance, or that it hasn't but should stay, or that it has and shouldn't stay, etc. What are your beliefs on it? Should it stay? Should it go? Does it or does it not violate the First Amendment?
By the way, for those of you who think it's always been there, it hasn't. It was added in the '50s during a communist scare, I'm pretty sure because one of the leaders was atheist. Not quite sure if it was cause of the leader, but it was added in the 50s. -------------------------- Personally, I feel it should go. Not just because I'm atheist, but not EVERY religion calls their god, well, God. I also believe that if it stays, it shouldn't be mandatory to say, as I have gotten in some minor trouble for simply staying quiet during the "Under God" part. -------------------- |
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Sep 30 2011, 04:22 AM
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Feel the Fire, Break your Vision Group: +Donors Posts: 65 Joined: 12-October 09 From: Australia Member No.: 68 079 Favourite Pokemon |
The currency here (as an example) had a fair bit of change done to it when the last one happened.
Yes, its indeed controversial, but not impossible, that's all I mean. ^^; -------------------- |
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Sep 30 2011, 02:24 PM
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The currency here (as an example) had a fair bit of change done to it when the last one happened. Yes, its indeed controversial, but not impossible, that's all I mean. ^^; What caught my attention was "I see no harm in doing that whatsoever." Yes, there is very much harm that can come from doing it. Very much many harm. That's what I was pointing out. -------------------- space...spacespace...wanna go to space...I'm in space...are we in space...I wanna into space, are you space? Uh oh, space police, stay cool. Space..space..space space..ba ba, ba, ba, bababa, ba, ba space. Dad, are you space? Yes, now we can be a family again. Space space...need...space...need a rocket...wanna buy a rocket? It's for space...need one...buy one from space store...space store...space...space...space supplies...space ship...space rocket...rocket..space...soup...space soup...from space cafe...space waiter there's a space fly in my space soup...spacespace....must...
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Oct 4 2012, 07:41 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 6-November 10 From: United States Member No.: 119 451 Active Squad |
The currency here (as an example) had a fair bit of change done to it when the last one happened. Yes, its indeed controversial, but not impossible, that's all I mean. ^^; What caught my attention was "I see no harm in doing that whatsoever." Yes, there is very much harm that can come from doing it. Very much many harm. That's what I was pointing out. There IS absolutely no harm, you seem to have no grasp on what phasing out means. It'd take a while to happen, but eventually it'd be really rare to see the old forms of money. It wouldn't be a painful process or anything of the sort, nor stressful financial-wise. The only harm would be from religious people who have no right for their "god" to be on our money and in our pledge anyway. -------------------- |
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Posts in this topic
Not A Moron "Under God" in the Pledge Jul 12 2011, 11:45 PM
WindexSniper I personally think it violates the first amendment... Jul 13 2011, 12:00 AM
Keiiri I'm fine with it being there but I don't b... Jul 13 2011, 12:31 AM
Volcarona QUOTE(Keiiri @ Jul 13 2011, 06:31 AM) I... Jul 15 2011, 07:34 AM
rileyup i always get in trouble for not saying the pledge,... Jul 15 2011, 07:32 AM
Reyo QUOTE(rileyup @ Jul 15 2011, 07:32 AM) i ... Aug 10 2011, 10:07 AM
Reyo I believe that there are much more pressing matter... Jul 16 2011, 12:22 AM
Black Ice I am in favour of "all or nothing." And ... Jul 30 2011, 11:27 PM
Heaven Falling *bites lip* I'm in the Military I fight for t... Aug 9 2011, 09:18 PM
Mercenary Raven You know, this isn't some sort of spammy forum... Aug 14 2011, 01:12 AM
Reyo I just couldn't get over how rediculous it sou... Aug 28 2011, 09:08 PM
KyoushiroTheSilver QUOTE(Heaven Falling @ Aug 9 2011, 10:18 ... Sep 4 2011, 07:04 PM
PawsrentOrigin I request it be changed to my religion, "one ... Sep 8 2011, 09:00 PM
Reyo QUOTE(KyoushiroTheSilver @ Sep 4 2011, 07... Sep 16 2011, 06:13 PM
The great Cthulhu QUOTE(PawsrentOrigin @ Sep 8 2011, 11:00 ... Sep 16 2011, 06:26 PM
Rainbow Kang Hmm...How do you non-believers think we were creat... Sep 17 2011, 12:44 AM
Fatal Error QUOTE(Rainbow Kang @ Sep 16 2011, 10:44 P... Sep 17 2011, 02:44 AM
Skins T While I'm not American, if I were, I would not... Sep 17 2011, 01:52 AM
Rainbow Kang In My Perspective. People from other countries an... Sep 17 2011, 04:19 AM
Skins T QUOTE(Rainbow Kang @ Sep 17 2011, 07:19 P... Sep 17 2011, 06:53 AM
Bigwig QUOTE(Rainbow Kang @ Sep 17 2011, 05:19 A... Sep 24 2011, 05:21 PM
shou75 it technically should stay because the country mai... Sep 25 2011, 01:08 PM
TwilitProphet Being the 'main' religion does not make it... Sep 26 2011, 08:05 PM
Bigwig QUOTE(shou75 @ Sep 25 2011, 02:08 PM) it ... Sep 26 2011, 08:14 PM
BarkAtTheMoon Are people forgetting that "In God We Trust... Sep 27 2011, 09:50 AM
Mercenary Raven QUOTE(BarkAtTheMoon @ Sep 27 2011, 10:50 ... Sep 28 2011, 05:40 PM
Skins T What's wrong with having money reprinted? Ther... Sep 28 2011, 01:35 AM
Reyo QUOTE(Skins T @ Sep 28 2011, 01:35 AM) Wh... Sep 28 2011, 03:15 AM
BarkAtTheMoon No, you missed by point completely. If you remove ... Sep 29 2011, 09:54 AM
Skins T QUOTE(Reyo @ Sep 28 2011, 06:15 PM) -snip... Sep 30 2011, 02:27 AM
Reyo QUOTE(Skins T @ Sep 30 2011, 02:27 AM) QU... Sep 30 2011, 02:50 AM
BarkAtTheMoon I realize my first post may not have been that cle... Sep 30 2011, 08:14 AM
shou75 well for the most part , once you get into highsch... Oct 1 2011, 12:19 PM
Raccoonicorn I find the overall concept of the pledge overall p... Oct 2 2011, 06:59 PM
vaporeongirl2010 I, as a Christian, believe that it should stay in ... Jan 18 2012, 04:57 PM
zerohundred Technichaly, most people believe in the same god, ... May 23 2012, 06:35 PM
Nikki101709 Even though I'm Catholic, I think it should be... May 23 2012, 08:15 PM
KaseysKountryKreations QUOTE(Not A Moron @ Jul 12 2011, 10:45 PM... May 24 2012, 01:56 AM
Mercenary Raven There is no fucking way you are serious if you are... May 24 2012, 03:05 AM
FirePower QUOTE(Not a Moron)I also believe that if it stays,... May 25 2012, 08:51 AM
Slade Wilson I do NOT like "under God" in the pledge ... Jun 7 2012, 03:54 AM
strictlyninja Does it mean that this nation was FOUNDED under Go... Jun 19 2012, 02:43 PM
The Winnebago I've lost enough faith in America that I don... Oct 4 2012, 08:34 PM
Aves Dominari I never really cared about the Pledge of America (... Oct 5 2012, 12:40 PM
zerohundred QUOTE(Aves Dominari @ Oct 5 2012, 10:40 A... Oct 7 2012, 03:03 PM
tehriah QUOTEI never really cared about the Pledge of Amer... Nov 19 2012, 04:20 PM
MikaChan The country was founded by Christians, but it was ... Nov 30 2012, 12:26 PM
SilverLugia456 I think this is one of those debates that will nev... Nov 30 2012, 02:00 PM
jellybean chi i don't know a ton about american history but ... Mar 19 2013, 11:36 PM
The Shadow Here's the way I see it. You should have respe... Mar 20 2013, 02:13 PM
The Shadow The "under god" part is optional, and th... Mar 20 2013, 04:14 PM
BlueShell My school doesn't "do" the Pledge of... Apr 3 2013, 02:51 AM
WindexSniper I personally think it violates the first amendment... Jul 13 2011, 12:00 AM
Keiiri I'm fine with it being there but I don't b... Jul 13 2011, 12:31 AM
Volcarona QUOTE(Keiiri @ Jul 13 2011, 06:31 AM) I... Jul 15 2011, 07:34 AM
rileyup i always get in trouble for not saying the pledge,... Jul 15 2011, 07:32 AM
Reyo QUOTE(rileyup @ Jul 15 2011, 07:32 AM) i ... Aug 10 2011, 10:07 AM
Reyo I believe that there are much more pressing matter... Jul 16 2011, 12:22 AM
Black Ice I am in favour of "all or nothing." And ... Jul 30 2011, 11:27 PM
Heaven Falling *bites lip* I'm in the Military I fight for t... Aug 9 2011, 09:18 PM
Mercenary Raven You know, this isn't some sort of spammy forum... Aug 14 2011, 01:12 AM
Reyo I just couldn't get over how rediculous it sou... Aug 28 2011, 09:08 PM
KyoushiroTheSilver QUOTE(Heaven Falling @ Aug 9 2011, 10:18 ... Sep 4 2011, 07:04 PM
PawsrentOrigin I request it be changed to my religion, "one ... Sep 8 2011, 09:00 PM
Reyo QUOTE(KyoushiroTheSilver @ Sep 4 2011, 07... Sep 16 2011, 06:13 PM
The great Cthulhu QUOTE(PawsrentOrigin @ Sep 8 2011, 11:00 ... Sep 16 2011, 06:26 PM
Rainbow Kang Hmm...How do you non-believers think we were creat... Sep 17 2011, 12:44 AM
Fatal Error QUOTE(Rainbow Kang @ Sep 16 2011, 10:44 P... Sep 17 2011, 02:44 AM
Skins T While I'm not American, if I were, I would not... Sep 17 2011, 01:52 AM
Rainbow Kang In My Perspective. People from other countries an... Sep 17 2011, 04:19 AM
Skins T QUOTE(Rainbow Kang @ Sep 17 2011, 07:19 P... Sep 17 2011, 06:53 AM
Bigwig QUOTE(Rainbow Kang @ Sep 17 2011, 05:19 A... Sep 24 2011, 05:21 PM
shou75 it technically should stay because the country mai... Sep 25 2011, 01:08 PM
TwilitProphet Being the 'main' religion does not make it... Sep 26 2011, 08:05 PM
Bigwig QUOTE(shou75 @ Sep 25 2011, 02:08 PM) it ... Sep 26 2011, 08:14 PM
BarkAtTheMoon Are people forgetting that "In God We Trust... Sep 27 2011, 09:50 AM
Mercenary Raven QUOTE(BarkAtTheMoon @ Sep 27 2011, 10:50 ... Sep 28 2011, 05:40 PM
Skins T What's wrong with having money reprinted? Ther... Sep 28 2011, 01:35 AM
Reyo QUOTE(Skins T @ Sep 28 2011, 01:35 AM) Wh... Sep 28 2011, 03:15 AM
BarkAtTheMoon No, you missed by point completely. If you remove ... Sep 29 2011, 09:54 AM
Skins T QUOTE(Reyo @ Sep 28 2011, 06:15 PM) -snip... Sep 30 2011, 02:27 AM
Reyo QUOTE(Skins T @ Sep 30 2011, 02:27 AM) QU... Sep 30 2011, 02:50 AM
BarkAtTheMoon I realize my first post may not have been that cle... Sep 30 2011, 08:14 AM
shou75 well for the most part , once you get into highsch... Oct 1 2011, 12:19 PM
Raccoonicorn I find the overall concept of the pledge overall p... Oct 2 2011, 06:59 PM
vaporeongirl2010 I, as a Christian, believe that it should stay in ... Jan 18 2012, 04:57 PM
zerohundred Technichaly, most people believe in the same god, ... May 23 2012, 06:35 PM
Nikki101709 Even though I'm Catholic, I think it should be... May 23 2012, 08:15 PM
KaseysKountryKreations QUOTE(Not A Moron @ Jul 12 2011, 10:45 PM... May 24 2012, 01:56 AM
Mercenary Raven There is no fucking way you are serious if you are... May 24 2012, 03:05 AM
FirePower QUOTE(Not a Moron)I also believe that if it stays,... May 25 2012, 08:51 AM
Slade Wilson I do NOT like "under God" in the pledge ... Jun 7 2012, 03:54 AM
strictlyninja Does it mean that this nation was FOUNDED under Go... Jun 19 2012, 02:43 PM
The Winnebago I've lost enough faith in America that I don... Oct 4 2012, 08:34 PM
Aves Dominari I never really cared about the Pledge of America (... Oct 5 2012, 12:40 PM
zerohundred QUOTE(Aves Dominari @ Oct 5 2012, 10:40 A... Oct 7 2012, 03:03 PM
tehriah QUOTEI never really cared about the Pledge of Amer... Nov 19 2012, 04:20 PM
MikaChan The country was founded by Christians, but it was ... Nov 30 2012, 12:26 PM
SilverLugia456 I think this is one of those debates that will nev... Nov 30 2012, 02:00 PM
jellybean chi i don't know a ton about american history but ... Mar 19 2013, 11:36 PM
The Shadow Here's the way I see it. You should have respe... Mar 20 2013, 02:13 PM
The Shadow The "under god" part is optional, and th... Mar 20 2013, 04:14 PM
BlueShell My school doesn't "do" the Pledge of... Apr 3 2013, 02:51 AM
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