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[unearthly]

Could someone explain to me a little the IVs?
I looked in the help section and couldn't find anything about it. If I missed it just give me a link.

I thought the more IV's a pokemon had the better it was, but I was using a shiftry with 156 IV's and it sucked compared to my sawsbuck with 133 IV's. Most of his stats are higher than sawsbuck's as well (except SPD), but sawsbuck still does more damage and survives longer than my shiftry does.
Do IV's really do much of anything? Or are the base stats the most important? If I wasn't counting IV's a lot of my sawsbuck's base stats are a bit higher than the shiftry, but with IV's included it's no contest who should be better.

If anyone has info on the IV's I would like to hear it because I am a bit confused.

This post has been edited by unearthly: Sep 17 2013, 09:24 PM

[Yamper]

Could you link us to the said Shiftry and Sawsbuck?

[unearthly]

sure

[Miss X]

IV stands for "Individual Value." While each species of Pokemon has its own base stats, the IVs between Pokemon of the same species differ. The overall stats (the Stats) are the sum of the base and IV for each stat. IVs are more for comparing Pokemon of the same species, whereas Stats are what you look at to determine how the Pokemon will fight. Now, looking at your Sawsbuck and Shiftry, your Sawsbuck has the higher attack, speed, and special defense. However, your Shiftry does have better stats in the other areas. If you haven't already, I might recommend changing up the moveset to focus on Shiftry's higher stats.

This post has been edited by Miss X: Sep 17 2013, 06:15 PM

[unearthly]

That's very helpful, thank you.

Just one more question, if the stats are the sum of the IV's and base stats together, how can it be that sometimes the stats are lower than the IV's?


This magikarp is a good example.. The sp. def and atk stats are both lower than the IV.. ? How does that happen?

[pumpkinking0192]

That's very helpful, thank you.

Just one more question, if the stats are the sum of the IV's and base stats together, how can it be that sometimes the stats are lower than the IV's?


This magikarp is a good example.. The sp. def and atk stats are both lower than the IV.. ? How does that happen?

At level 100, the IVs get added directly on, so if you had, for example, 40 Attack plus a 20 IV in Attack, you'd end up with a 60 Attack stat.

At lower levels, the IVs are scaled down just like the stats are. At levels 1-25, everything is a quarter of what it will be at level 100, so the same example I gave above would end up with 10 Attack plus (20/4)=5 for its IVs, so it would only have a 15 in Attack even though its IV is 20.

At levels 1-25, IVs are factored in at a ratio of 1/4 of the maximum; at levels 26-50, it's 1/2; and at levels 51-75 it's 3/4. From levels 76-100, IVs will be factored in with a 1-to-1 ratio.

(Disclaimer: All of this is just a theoretical example and I don't know exactly how base stats themselves get scaled down; it may not be exactly 40 -> 10 like in the example. Everything I said relating to IVs, however, is definitely correct.)

This post has been edited by pumpkinking0192: Sep 17 2013, 10:41 PM

[Yamper]

Because linking would be dumb in this situation, this is a response to the disclaimer above, regarding how stats are created on GPX+

Pokémon base stats are derived from the in-game ones (Novelty Pokémon stats are completely made up, however, for obvious reasons), however rather than leaving every Pokémon with a different base stat total, we've normalised these totals so that every Pokémon has the same amount of base stat points. For example, to get the base stats of Bibarel on GPXPlus, we we multiplied all its stats by 600/410, which is the target base stat total/the base stat total in-game.

If you want to read more, here is the link.

It also states that IV's work the same in GPX as they do in the real game, so if you're curious about how it works, then you could Google exactly how IV's work in the game and work it out that way. If you get a decimal answer (which is more than likely, if you're looking at the amount of each stat), then you always round down.

This is the formula for working out the Maximum Stat of a Pokémon with a Beneficial Nature/Non Beneficial Nature:

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[(Base Stat*2)+5+IV of Stat]*Nature Increase/Decrease

1.1 = Nature Increase
0.9 = Nature Decrease

So if I were to use a Luvdisc for example. I want to know the maximum Speed of 2 Luvdisc with different Speed IV's, but both with with a Speed boosting nature. One with 8 IV's in Speed and the other has 31 IV's in Speed. Luvdisc's Base Speed is 176. The first linked Luvdisc has 401 speed and the second linked Luvdisc has 426 speed.

[(176*2)+5+8]*1.1=401.5
This would round down to 401. You can see that the first linked Luvdisc has 401 Speed!

[(176*2)+5+31]*1.1=426.8
This would round down to 426. You can see that the second linked Luvdisc has 426 Speed! (The one I linked has 427 only because of a dodgy Vitamin boost; I can assure you it does round down.)

For a non-beneficial nature, simply not do not include the 1.1
For a negative boosting nature, replace 1.1 with 0.9

To find out the maximum stat with a choice item it is the same formula as the beneficial nature formula.
Multiply the answers by 1.5 and you'll get the stat with a choice item effect. (Only works with Speed, Attack and Special Attack)

Note, if you want to find out the Maximum Stat of a Pokémon with a Nature which neither increases or decreases a Stat, then just leave off the 1.1 or 0.9. If you're going to Choice Item it, then include that 1.5 or you'll get an incorrect result.

It's not strictly what you're after, but if you ever need to work out how high a stat would be (with beneficial natures, varying IVs etc), then that's the formula you use. When you do the base stats, make sure you use the ones on GPX or you'll be getting the wrong thing Taken from my thread here.