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POKEMON GRAND PRIX : General Discussion
Etnie
post Apr 13 2009, 08:37 PM
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-UPDATE- We are runing a season and signps are now up

OK so I was just chillin' and i got to thinking, How can I get more people on GTS+ to battle on wifi easily and keep it very organized?
What came to my mind was a solution, but Im sort of thinking that it may be too much work to create/keep alive

So here is the Idea, a GTS+ Pokemon Grand Prix.... well thats just the name i have for it now. but here are the details.

SECTION 1 - BASIC FORMAT

~This would be a Seasonal Tourney style format with a season being roughly 2-3 months.
~Unlimited # of participants.
~Their would be ranks and a ladder for combatants. (*see Sec. 4)
~Combatants may be added every season.
~Pokemon for the battles WILL BE PROVIDED, FOR FREE(* see Sec. 2)
~Pokemon would be distributed through a "draft" of sorts(* see Sec. 2)
~Each season Pokemon will be re-drafted.
~if i missed anything i would add it here later.

SECTION 2 - DRAFT INFO

So basically here is how it would work.
~There are 20 Uber, 49 OU, and 58 UU tier pokemon; (this is based off of Smogon's tiers)
~Total = 127
~During a draft, 2 versions of a Pokemon will be distributed (different IV, EV, Moves, ect.)
~This will make 254 pokemon available; 6 pokemon to a person = 42 different teams
~If we ever need more pokes we could hand out 3 of each.
~During a Draft, all the combatants would take turns choosing pokemon until all combatants had a team (* see Sec. 3)
~I would Pokesav Generate all the necessary pokemon and hand them out via Wifi after draft. So basically you can enter the PGP with no pokemon trained and still participate.

SECTION 3 - POKEMON/PARTY INFO

Rules for teams would differ depending on how many combatants but it would roughly be limited by these rules:
~1 Uber tier Pokemon per team
~Max party size of 6
~Only the Supplied PGP pokemon may be used
~PGP pokemon will be marked as - Secret ID- 05050, Trainer ID- 05050, OT- GTS*PGP, and The Pokemon's name will be PGP-XXXXXX, any pokemon whose name is greater than 6 characters will be shortened. (ex: PGP-AERODAC, PGP-CHARZR, PGP- GIRTNA)
~YOU MAY NOT, BY ANY CONDITION, ALTER A POKEMON'S MOVES/EV's/ect.
~after the draft you must use those pokemon until the end of the season.

SECTION 4 - BATTLES/RANKING INFO

-All Battles will be organized by the battlers in a forum thread.
-After a Battle has been completed, both Combatants must send a score (X pokes to X pokes) to a PGP Official(*see Sec. 7)
-All rankings will be based on a point system(*see Sec. 5)
-There will be a frequently updated ladder
-You may Only challenge a player within 5 ranks of your own. (thats right, No #1's beating up on #40's for points)
-Players with equal points will share a rank (ex: Players A, B, and D all have 12 points, They will all be rank 1. Players C, and E have 10 points, They are rank 2)
-The top 8 players will be moved to the finals(*see Sec. 6)
-Winners from a previous season will get priority Draft picks.
-Rules of Battle will be predetermined at season start.
-Anyone who breaks any Battle rules will be penalized(*see Sec. 5)

SECTION 5 - POINTS (**SUBJECT TO CHANGE**)

-Points will be given based on a Sweep, Win, Tie, Loss, Swept basis
---A "Sweep" will give you 2 points + 5 points for the win (sweep being 6-0)
---A Win is worth 5 points
---A Tie is worth 3 points
---A Loss is worth 1 point
---If "Swept" you receive -1 points plus 1 point for the loss, so basically you will get 0 points. (Swept being 0-6)
-Points will be deducted if you break Battle rules. First offense will be 2 points and it will double from then on out.
-Points determine your rank (no duh)

SECTION 6 - FINALS

Ok so after the main season is over the top 8 ranked players will be moved on to a Championship of sorts.
-Only the top 8 ranked players will go to this tourney.
-It is not necessarily ranks 1-8 due to the fact players may share ranks.
-If more than 8 players qualify (ex. 3 players Rank one, 3 players rank two, 4 players rank three; we would need to cut two of the rank 3's) Players that will be cut will be chosen based on # of wins. (If you have an equal rank, but fewer wins you will be cut)
-The seasonal champion will be decided based on this tourney
-it will be a single elimination tourney.

SECTION 7 - OTHER

I will need help with this, so any volunteers I will gladly accept.
-I need Pokesavers/Distributers.
-I need Officials who can verify battle results and help with drafts.
-and I need Competitors. no explanation necessary

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Ok now just to help you understand, I am going to simulate a season of sorts-
-Season sign ups during first 1-2 weeks (1.5 weeks)
-Drafting week begins (1 week)
-After drafting ends pokemon will be distributed. (1 week hopefully)
-Battles Start (3-4 weeks)
-FINALS (2 weeks altogether)
---Final 8 (5 days; Part of FINALS)
---Final 4 (5 days; Part of FINALS)
---Season Champ Match (5 days; Part of FINALS)
-Final standings/deletion of PGP pokemon. (1 week)

So the entire season will take around 8 weeks max. 2 months

NOW, this is a theoretical and is in no way guaranteed to happen. but please post any comments and answer the poll. I would like to see this happen but I dont want it to become inactive or get in the way of the GTS+ pokemon league. If you have any questions, ask away.

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post Apr 14 2009, 07:01 AM
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I think this is a very nice idea indeed. Perfect for people like me who love Pokemon battles, but really don't have the time or the patience to IV breed and EV train a whole team. In my experiences of organising tournaments, the big problem comes from trying to organise battles between two people living on opposite sides of the world and therefore completly different time zones. But obviously becuase this is a Grand Prix style thing, that shouldn't be a problem. I think this definatly has the potenial to work. There's a lot of new members on the site now, with literally hundreds joining every week, so finding participants shouldn't be too hard *fingers crossed*. I don't own a AR or anything, but if you do need help with anything then let me know, cause I really would love to see this become a reality. Good luck grin.gif


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post Apr 14 2009, 07:08 AM
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I think that if we can get the idea get going it could deserve it's own subforum.

I hope we can get it going.


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post Apr 14 2009, 07:19 AM
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I'm with Flamer on this one. grin.gif I have AR, but trying to use Pokesav is just too confusing. Dx.gif This will put members organising skills to the test, but, if you'd like I can help with distributing. And if I ever figure out how to write Pokesav codes to my AR, I might be able to help you out more. Great idea Etnie. smile.gif


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post Apr 14 2009, 09:10 AM
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I also agree with Flamer. It also will help people improve their battling skills, by using Pokemon they are not familiar with. Also, everybody has a fair chance, I'm assuming that every pokemon you create will have 31 IVs in all stats? If so, then everyone has the same chance of winning. Another point; it helps to stop cheating, which is another problem with convential tournaments.

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post Apr 14 2009, 12:04 PM
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Etnie when you pitched me the idea the other day I loved it, I wanna help out as much as possible. You have my full backing with this idea.


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post Apr 14 2009, 12:13 PM
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post Apr 14 2009, 08:30 PM
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wow, I didn't expect such good feedback, especially coming from some of our bigger battlers on the site.
But still I need at least 20 people interested in this to even think about starting it. right now we have 7 including myself.

Also please discuss if anything is confusing or if i have left something out. (it helps me fix stuff and bumps the thread for others to see pinch.gif)

edit: misspell

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post Apr 14 2009, 08:53 PM
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personally i think this is really cool, but i'm not completley sure it would work


mostly what im saying is the passing out of all the pokemon by one person would be insane. and i dont think there would be a whole lot of "willing" participants, perhaps the losers(or maybe even winners) would need to be asked to hand out the pokemon.

otherwise, i think this is a cool idea, and to maybe make more people willing to join, i could help with prizes, as in legit shinies/EV trained pokes/ usefull items or just things that people would want. although they will be cloned, they will still be legit. but except that i wont be able to help out much sadly.

ps: one other thing is that, without its own sub-forum, this would be too hard to do. lets hope we get that sub-forum.


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post Apr 14 2009, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(dark thunder @ Apr 14 2009, 08:53 PM) *
personally i think this is really cool, but i'm not completley sure it would work


mostly what im saying is the passing out of all the pokemon by one person would be insane. and i dont think there would be a whole lot of "willing" participants, perhaps the losers(or maybe even winners) would need to be asked to hand out the pokemon.


Thats why I would need help in the creation and distribution process.
I would need ppl with AR's and Pokesav (and patience)

but say we hold a season with 25 battlers. Thats 150 pokes. It takes me barely under 45 mins to create, generate, and box 6 pokesav'd pokemon. With 3 pokesavers running at that speed we could prolly generate all the pokes necessary very quickly.

Distribution would be faster seeing as we would just add FC's and trade. wich takes 20 mins if both people pay attention and trade at full speed.

Plus once a Pokemon is created. ITS DONE. If we ever need that pokemon again we just put in an AR and load it up. (that is unless the officials change movesets of said pokemon or something like that.


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post Apr 14 2009, 10:03 PM
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right...there ^ would not be the best place to be right now
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i might be able to do a little bit of the trading (if i actually have time) since i have an AR, but i don't have pokesav, and even if i did, it would take a while for me to acually get good at it.

ya a smart idea would be to make an archive of all the pokemon that were made for the tournament and maybe even make a topic with them, heck maybe some people that dont have time to trade can even make the pokemon that their assigned on thier own action replay


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post Apr 15 2009, 08:57 PM
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So Etnie, in all honestly, as the creator of this mythical idea, how long do you think it would take to get this up and running if enough people showed interest in the next 24 hours?


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Well as stated above we would run signups for a week, and then draft off pokemon. (in the meantime i would be creating the pokemon for the draft) then we could distribute so i could technically "start up" as soon as enough interest is shown. I would just have to be speedy about creating the pokes.


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So about a week... >.>; rawr.. slowpoke...

Anyways, I'm trying to get more people involved in this because it seems like a wicked idea. Maybe I'm blind but have you thought of prizes for the winners?


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post Apr 15 2009, 09:39 PM
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Well I dont own much that is good and not hacked/cloned.
I personally think that if you become a season champ that is prize enough but im sure that if i could get some donations of EV'd pokes or shinys I could give out prizes.


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post Apr 15 2009, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(dark thunder @ Apr 14 2009, 08:53 PM) *
and to maybe make more people willing to join, i could help with prizes, as in legit shinies/EV trained pokes/ usefull items or just things that people would want. although they will be cloned, they will still be legit.



like i said i could donate alot of the prizes, but i guess the winner would have to be ok with clones(which i only know a few people that arent ok with them)

ill ask some of the people that im trading with right now to look at this, and ill put a link in my sig for it.


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post Apr 15 2009, 10:18 PM
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So This thread has been in-active for a while but I have a question, Who all can Generate Pokes via pokesav for this?
I just need to know if i need to hire outside help or not...


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you pretty know how much i feel on this topic and that i support you all the way, and will help out with anything, sounds awesome dude


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I like this idea!

I would really like to see this become real.
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