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Why is Heatran a Legendary on here?, Doesn't seem legend in the series...
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:32 PM
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So why ARE the Heatran legendaries on GPX?? The TV series had an episode recently air about catching Heatrans and they never said it was a legendary. Apparently the rangers catch them all the time. If they were Legendary wouldn't they be MUCH more elusive and rare???


What are your thoughts?? I'm not against them being legend on here....it was just something that caught my attention.
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:33 PM
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post Oct 23 2010, 12:37 PM
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But doesn't the games match the series? Or vice-vera, really...
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post Oct 23 2010, 02:24 PM
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Of course the games go by the series, just like Pikachu can attack ground-types by AIMING FOR THE HORN and stuff

In all seriousness, though. Heatran is a legendary in the games, and is rare. In the anime, legendaries are known to have multiples (see: many Shaymins in the movie). So it doesn't really mean anything if they're not elusive in the anime.


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post Oct 23 2010, 02:58 PM
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Btw the anime goes by the game. so even if it's abundant in the anime it still is legendary in the game.


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post Oct 23 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(Renesmee Cullen @ Oct 23 2010, 10:37 AM) *
But doesn't the games match the series? Or vice-vera, really...


That's like saying Red in the games and Ash from the anime are the same person. Yeah...no. True, they are similar, but to say they are the same person would be insulting Red. Not to be offensive, but I think the anime has gotten kind of degrading to the games unimpressed.gif. Anyway, Heatran is legendary in the game, so it's legendary on GPX. The anime rules aren't very rational in comparison to the games...(I don't think Piplup is supposed to be able to move whirlpool like it's using psychic powers, nor do I think moves like Tail Whip should be able to deal damage like they do in the anime.)

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post Oct 23 2010, 11:03 PM
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Heatran has always been legendary. Just because the anime didn't mention it doesn't make it not true, even for that continuity. It's a minor god, but it's still a legendary. Look at the entire Charon plot in Platinum for further evidence.
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post Oct 24 2010, 12:39 AM
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I wouldn't even put Heatran in the minor god category. (I wouldn't really put the birds in there either tbh.)

Heatran is like the very utmost bottom of the legendary tier, but it is still deemed legendary due to it's inability to breed and single overworld encounter.


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post Oct 24 2010, 02:27 AM
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Heatran is kinda like Phione to me :/ I can't consider either a legendary whether going by the game *or* by the anime. Heatran just seems like one of those pokemon they had nothing to do with so they just made it a legend. Not like you can say it commands over much, Groudon is the fire (Moltres got this too) and lava guy...


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post Oct 24 2010, 02:39 AM
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I don't even think the game considers it a serious legendary, hence the 2,500 maturity.


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post Oct 24 2010, 02:44 AM
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I always saw Moltres the legend of fire, Groudon the legend of land and Heatran the legend of volcanoes.
I believe the 2,500 maturity is because it's a pokemon made of lava and it's plenty hot just as it is therefore doesn't need much heat to hatch it. I don't think it's low maturity to hatch has anything to do with it.

None the less, Heatran IS a legend whether people believe it's serious or not.


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post Oct 24 2010, 03:54 AM
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I think Heatran is just the embodiment/force behind Stark Mountain. Any others would be the gods of their respective volcanoes. You don't have to be god over a very large area, after all.

But I'd put it above Phione, which doesn't seem to even have a legend about it at all, much less have any sort of elemental control.
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post Oct 24 2010, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE(Renesmee Cullen @ Oct 23 2010, 06:37 PM) *
But doesn't the games match the series? Or vice-vera, really...

No. No. No.

The games came first. They take precedence over every other source. The only thing I can recall right now that they based off another part of the franchise was when they gave Red an Espeon in G/S/C (a possible reference to the manga) and pokémon Yellow, which was made specifically to promote the anime, and even then there weren't that many differences.


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what an interesting question. I've always wondered about that. What means a legendary legendary if there are more of them?


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I just wanna know why Heatran takes as much time to hatch as a Pachirisu


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post Oct 24 2010, 04:54 PM
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I never really considered Phione a legend because of a couple things.
But this thread isn't about Phione so I don't go into it.


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post Oct 24 2010, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(Bleu @ Oct 24 2010, 03:27 AM) *
Heatran is kinda like Phione to me :/ I can't consider either a legendary whether going by the game *or* by the anime. Heatran just seems like one of those pokemon they had nothing to do with so they just made it a legend. Not like you can say it commands over much, Groudon is the fire (Moltres got this too) and lava guy...

QUOTE(Doc Worth @ Oct 24 2010, 03:44 AM) *
I always saw Moltres the legend of fire, Groudon the legend of land and Heatran the legend of volcanoes.
I believe the 2,500 maturity is because it's a pokemon made of lava and it's plenty hot just as it is therefore doesn't need much heat to hatch it. I don't think it's low maturity to hatch has anything to do with it.

None the less, Heatran IS a legend whether people believe it's serious or not.

Yes, and Entei is the legend of cream cheese. Seriously, one of Entei's dex entries says that when it roars, volcanos erupt. So how can Heatran be the legend of Volcanos? Though I do say Heatran is a legend. You cannot trust the anime. Remember how Arbok evolves into Sveiper? And how Pikachu can easily beat ground types by aiming for their horn.

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post Oct 24 2010, 05:46 PM
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What, you can't have more than one god of something?

Anyway, Heatran takes as much time to hatch as a Pachirisu because the game's programming says it does. Read the Trivia section.
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QUOTE(The Aztec God Of Spoons @ Oct 24 2010, 11:37 PM) *
Yes, and Entei is the legend of cream cheese. Seriously, one of Entei's dex entries says that when it roars, volcanos erupt. So how can Heatran be the legend of Volcanos? Though I do say Heatran is a legend. You cannot trust the anime. Remember how Arbok evolves into Sveiper? And how Pikachu can easily beat ground types by aiming for their horn.

Think of it like the Romans and the Greeks. They have different gods/goddesses for the same thing, so the different regions of the Pokemon world have different legends for the same thing. Who said legends had to be global? They can be regional as well.


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QUOTE(YunikoYokai @ Oct 25 2010, 11:14 AM) *
QUOTE(The Aztec God Of Spoons @ Oct 24 2010, 11:37 PM) *
Yes, and Entei is the legend of cream cheese. Seriously, one of Entei's dex entries says that when it roars, volcanos erupt. So how can Heatran be the legend of Volcanos? Though I do say Heatran is a legend. You cannot trust the anime. Remember how Arbok evolves into Sveiper? And how Pikachu can easily beat ground types by aiming for their horn.

Think of it like the Romans and the Greeks. They have different gods/goddesses for the same thing, so the different regions of the Pokemon world have different legends for the same thing. Who said legends had to be global? They can be regional as well.



True, but Pokemon are... Real in the Pokemon world.

For erveything we know, the roman and greek gods (And all other gods, for that matter) may be real, but not like you go around and collect them. Like, "This is a water God. it is called Poseidon. We use Gods to play with or fihting". You get the point?

The point is, that the legends are real. Which the gods are not... Kinda. Its not like people go and pray for Entei to not erupt the volcano on Cinnabar Island.



And no. never trust the anime, because o the stupid things, like aim for the horn and Arbok-Seviper. Also, for the epic things called alternate colors grin.gif


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