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EVOLUTION TEACHES IMMORALITY!, No, it really doesn't...
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post May 26 2009, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(The Duke of Beaconsfield @ May 1 2009, 01:30 AM) *
Just a quick question to all these religon nuts in here:


why do you play pokemon? it is obviously created based on darwinistic beliefs.

i want to see proof that i am not, in fact, an ass fucking monkey please. and don't link me to some religon freaks blog this time.

by the way, im an atheist.

lol Im an atheist too and I agree with that lol, oh btw evolution is real PERIOD. seriously there is cold hard PROOF, ok now I fully believe in evolution and thatt we were not created we simply evolved form something that never started and will never end ok everything on this planet might die but there IS another life form out there, but that part is fully my opinion. btw can someone here actually prove jesus was real?, thats a serious dig its not supposed to be im just saying yes there is a lot writtewn about him, the bibles were written 1 to 2hundred years after he supposedly died!!! stupid question why is god a father when a woman gives life????, im a guy so that is not sexist


QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 07:55 PM) *
The bible has a God that punishes Sin.

Does Evolution have something similar to that? No?

does it need it? its life!


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post May 26 2009, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Ludocx @ May 26 2009, 02:21 PM) *
btw evolution is real PERIOD. seriously there is cold hard PROOF

Really? Like the Piltdown Man? The one that was proved to be a hoax?

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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 07:55 PM) *
The bible has a God that punishes Sin.

Does Evolution have something similar to that? No?

does it need it? its life!
Evolution teaches that all life came to be by evolving. That means it has to really on 'Survival of the Fittest'.
That means something has to die out.
Evolution is a religion of death. It has very little to do with life.
btw, 'Survival of the Fittest' is used to weed out the bad genes like downs syndrome., not to change kinds.

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post May 26 2009, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 02:55 PM) *
The bible has a God that punishes Sin.

Does Evolution have something similar to that? No?



Does that even have anything to do with evolution? It sounds to me like your denying the whole idea simply because you fear if you believe anything against your God he wont protect you : P

Anyway, my personal thought is while evolution has plenty of proof going for it, I think that many scientists are making false claims trying to relate present day animals to ancient ones. I think that they have the idea right, they just might be thinking a little to hard and labeling some animals wrongly. I have a feeling that there are a lot more creatures out there that have remained unchanged for a very long time.

In other words I believe in it but I don't believe every possible evolutionary pattern that's shown to me.

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post May 26 2009, 02:32 PM
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dude i respect what you are saying and all but it is weeding ot weaker things its just humans who are really freaks of nature we shouldnt be able to do what we can, are protecting our liabilities, that sounds harsh but yyou know what i mean. anyway what about that fossil they found recently dude? they can date that and it has a thumb!


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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 02:55 PM) *
The bible has a God that punishes Sin.

Does Evolution have something similar to that? No?


1. Define a sin.

2. Do you know what else that God does? Do you know what he encourages? Read the link I posted, less I have to post it for the rest of us.

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post May 26 2009, 02:34 PM
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Just so you know, I believe in God because of the impossibility of the contrary.

If you can prove Evolution, I will pay you $1,000 every week for the rest of your life.


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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 03:34 PM) *
Just so you know, I believe in God because of the impossibility of the contrary.

If you can prove Evolution, I will pay you $1,000 every week for the rest of your life.


. . .

Sorry, it has been proven, I can't take the credit. You owe Darwin the $1,000 for the rest of his afterlife.

Need the actual physical proof? Need I direct you to Lucy?

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QUOTE(Ebonycrow @ May 26 2009, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 03:34 PM) *
Just so you know, I believe in God because of the impossibility of the contrary.

If you can prove Evolution, I will pay you $1,000 every week for the rest of your life.


. . .

Sorry, it has been proven, I can't take the credit. You owe Darwin the $1,000 for the rest of his afterlife.

Need the actual physical proof? Need I direct you to Lucy?

wow... someone has proved the children of something by only having half a skeleton?
a skeleton only shows that something has died. You cannot prove it had any children, especially of a different kind.


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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 03:34 PM) *
Just so you know, I believe in God because of the impossibility of the contrary.

If you can prove Evolution, I will pay you $1,000 every week for the rest of your life.



Prove god exists and I'll take up that offer


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post May 26 2009, 02:43 PM
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nor can you prove, wait havent you argued both sides of the discussion??


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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 03:38 PM) *
QUOTE(Ebonycrow @ May 26 2009, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 03:34 PM) *
Just so you know, I believe in God because of the impossibility of the contrary.

If you can prove Evolution, I will pay you $1,000 every week for the rest of your life.


. . .

Sorry, it has been proven, I can't take the credit. You owe Darwin the $1,000 for the rest of his afterlife.

Need the actual physical proof? Need I direct you to Lucy?

wow... someone has proved the children of something by only having half a skeleton?
a skeleton only shows that something has died. You cannot prove it had any children, especially of a different kind.


Holy crap. o_o Go to class and return to this discussion after you've learned a little bit about what you're talking about. A skeleton can tell us LOADS. It doesn't simply say, "I have died," it tell us how it died, when it lived, what it ate, how it behaved, of what specie and order it belongs, its relatives, its location, etc.


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QUOTE(Ludocx @ May 26 2009, 03:43 PM) *
nor can you prove, wait havent you argued both sides of the discussion??


Um, if your referring to my post what I meant was that I believe in evolution but I think that alot of the evolutionary branches may not be 100% right.

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QUOTE(ninjacookie @ May 26 2009, 03:51 PM) *
QUOTE(Ludocx @ May 26 2009, 03:43 PM) *
nor can you prove, wait havent you argued both sides of the discussion??


Um, if your referring to my post what I meant was that I believe in evolution but I think that alot of the evolutionary branches may not be 100% right.


I don't think that anything is truly 100% correct, including evolutionary lines, because there is only so much that we can find--and thus, know or understand. But, I do think that they are 99.9% correct. We do know when species divided, when some dropped off and when others continued, and often why that specie became what it is today--simply from studying their remains.


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Prove god exists and I'll take up that offer

Wait about 3 and a half years and I won't half to.

@ above post.
things are only 0% or 100% correct. Our understanding of them is not.


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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 04:40 PM) *
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Prove god exists and I'll take up that offer

Wait about 3 and a half years and I won't half to.

@ above post.
things are only 0% or 100% correct. Our understanding of them is not.



Whats supposed to happen in 3 and a half years? That's no proof. I meant prove right now why you think he exists. How are we supposed to be able to see why you are so certain of Gods existence when you yourself are not even sure. And don't say anything like I'll know when I die, because there's no way you can convince me of that either.


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Who said that they know when they will die?

I am certain God exists because of the impossibility of the contrary.
This world could not have happened by chance.


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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 06:04 PM) *
... dumblook.gif
Who said that they know when they will die?

I am certain God exists because of the impossibility of the contrary.
This world could not have happened by chance.



And I believe in evolution because of the impossibility that a man in the sky created life in a few days : P Evolution just has so much more proof than God.


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I don't believe in Evolution because it is stupid to think we came from a rock.


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QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 06:29 PM) *
I don't believe in Evolution because it is stupid to think we came from a rock.


I don't believe that. I believe that over time life evolved to better handle the constantly changing conditions on Earth. I'm okay with admitting that I really don't quiet know how life was started, and sometimes I even wonder if there was a start at all. But I'm not going to believe something that sounds completely out there and highly impossible just because I don't know for sure what happened and my parents told me to believe whats in some old book.

After all, why would I believe a religion that has used lies and deceptions to control people for generations? If anything it sounds like brainwashing. You give the people a simple answer to keep them simple. Just remember, the Bible was written by many men. It was not written by god. If god wanted you to know all the stuff in the bible he would have created you with that knowledge. Just like how you know how to eat and breath and mimic speech when you are born.

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QUOTE(ninjacookie @ May 26 2009, 05:43 PM) *
QUOTE(Grovyle @ May 26 2009, 06:29 PM) *
I don't believe in Evolution because it is stupid to think we came from a rock.


I don't believe that. I believe that over time life evolved to better handle the constantly changing conditions on Earth. I'm okay with admitting that I really don't quiet know how life was started, and sometimes I even wonder if there was a start at all. But I'm not going to believe something that sounds completely out there and highly impossible just because I don't know for sure what happened and my parents told me to believe whats in some old book.

Ok then. Where did all life come from?

QUOTE(ninjacookie @ May 26 2009, 05:43 PM) *
After all, why would I believe a religion that has used lies and deceptions to control people for generations? If anything it sounds like brainwashing. You give the people a simple answer to keep them simple. Just remember, the Bible was written by many men. It was not written by god. If god wanted you to know all the stuff in the bible he would have created you with that knowledge. Just like how you know how to eat and breath and mimic speech when you are born.

The bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
And anything can be a lie, depending on your point of view.


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