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Posted by: TehHuntress Nov 19 2010, 09:20 PM

I, myself, am a full believer in ghosts. But I've met some people who don't believe in life after death.

So I decided to ask all you GTS+ members, what you think.
Do you believe that ghosts are out there? Wandering the grounds where they once stood.
Or do you believe ghosts are just made up by paranormal investigators? That's there's no such thing as life after death.

Posted by: FancyGranola Nov 21 2010, 04:16 PM

Spiritual entities are possible.

inb4 personal experience.

Posted by: Bettadude Nov 25 2010, 12:23 AM

See the other thread about this and how I totally killed it.

Posted by: evolutionrex Nov 25 2010, 02:30 PM

As an atheist, i don't believe in Ghost but it's always fun to get creeped out while watched Ghost Hunters.

Posted by: FancyGranola Nov 26 2010, 01:56 PM

QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 25 2010, 11:30 AM) *
As an atheist


What does that mean?

Okay, so you mean to tell me that believers in God believe in ghosts. Big news: Ghosts do not necessarily have to do with God. So by saying you are "Atheist" you are somewhat implying that religious people are being silly in believing in God.

Posted by: Samoosion Nov 26 2010, 01:59 PM

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 26 2010, 06:56 PM) *
QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 25 2010, 11:30 AM) *
As an atheist


What does that mean?


Don't believe in God and anything religous/spiritual.

However, I don't think ghosts really count as Atheism o-o

Posted by: Dazmi Nov 26 2010, 02:00 PM

I don't believe in Ghosts, but I like the idea.

Posted by: FancyGranola Nov 26 2010, 02:00 PM

QUOTE(Samoosion @ Nov 26 2010, 10:59 AM) *
Don't believe in God and anything religous/spiritual.

However, I don't think ghosts really count as Atheism o-o


That's what I think too.

Posted by: evolutionrex Nov 26 2010, 02:13 PM

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 26 2010, 10:56 AM) *
QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 25 2010, 11:30 AM) *
As an atheist


What does that mean?

Okay, so you mean to tell me that believers in God believe in ghosts. Big news: Ghosts do not necessarily have to do with God. So by saying you are "Atheist" you are somewhat implying that religious people are being silly in believing in God.

what the hell are you talking about? I meant nothing like that. you took it that way wrong. I was merely stating that I'm an Atheist, and as far as I'm concerned Atheist don't believe in ghosts. True, ghosts don't necessarily involve religion, but the whole idea of ghosts is that their souls or people who didn't make it to Heaven or Hell, which I'm sure involves religion.

You thought to much when i said "As an Atheist."

Posted by: FancyGranola Nov 26 2010, 02:32 PM

QUOTE(StrawberryLoveIntervention @ Nov 26 2010, 11:25 AM) *
There are plenty of religious people who don't believe in ghosts.

Actually, I once saw a site about ghosts in which the creator(s) said that they were turned away from Christianity because many Christians they meant said that they were crazy for believing in ghosts, or something. (of course, I'm not implying that there aren't Christians who do believe in ghosts. I was just stating what the creator(s) said.)


And plenty of non-religious people that believe in ghosts, people like that are "spiritual." There is a difference between belief and religion.

Posted by: evolutionrex Nov 26 2010, 02:57 PM

QUOTE(StrawberryLoveIntervention @ Nov 26 2010, 11:25 AM) *
QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 26 2010, 02:13 PM) *
what the hell are you talking about? I meant nothing like that. you took it that way wrong. I was merely stating that I'm an Atheist, and as far as I'm concerned Atheist don't believe in ghosts. True, ghosts don't necessarily involve religion, but the whole idea of ghosts is that their souls or people who didn't make it to Heaven or Hell, which I'm sure involves religion.

You thought to much when i said "As an Atheist."

There are plenty of religious people who don't believe in ghosts.

Actually, I once saw a site about ghosts in which the creator(s) said that they were turned away from Christianity because many Christians they met said that they were crazy for believing in ghosts, or something. (of course, I'm not implying that there aren't Christians [or other people from other religions] who do believe in ghosts. I was just stating what the creator(s) said.)

Okay? When did i ever say that all religious people believe in ghosts? I have no idea why you quoted me on something that i didn't say unimpressed.gif

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 26 2010, 11:32 AM) *
And plenty of non-religious people that believe in ghosts, people like that are "spiritual." There is a difference between belief and religion.

not really. To be an atheist you can't believe in god, spirits, or anything like that. I mean, people could but can't name anyone like that. To be "spiritual" must mean you have some type of religion, just becuase it isn't a mainstream religion doesn't make it, what you call, a "belief." beliefs are in fact religion, just your own beliefs in a official religion.

Posted by: TehHuntress Nov 26 2010, 03:27 PM

Okay, seriously guys? I just started this debate on whether you believe in ghosts or not, but instead you turned into towards religion and athiests.
I swear, everywhere I look, there are people fighting over what other religions believe in and junk like that.
I don't care what religion you are! If you're athiest, okay! You're an athiest! Congrats!
If you Catholic, good for you!
Just keep your beliefs and religion to yourself, instead of posting it on a thread that has nothing to do with all of that stuff!

Posted by: Ezio Auditore da Firenze Nov 26 2010, 04:01 PM

Can't we all just get along
I somewhat believe in ghosts, or at least some kind of afterlife like that. Even if it's just some kind of memory recollection retained by a location.

Posted by: evolutionrex Nov 26 2010, 05:09 PM

QUOTE(StrawberryLoveIntervention @ Nov 26 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 26 2010, 02:57 PM) *
Okay? When did i ever say that all religious people believe in ghosts? I have no idea why you quoted me on something that i didn't say unimpressed.gif

I interpreted your post as something like "Religions and religious people usually believe in ghosts."

Well it wasn't. I don't even know where people got that from. I was saying Atheist(for the most part) don't believe in ghost. You assumed too much.

I didn't mean to bring religion into this, but people had to comment on three words; "As an Atheist." It seems just becuase i said that people assumed i was bashing religious people.

Posted by: Shadow Dragon Nov 26 2010, 05:43 PM

of course everything turns into an argument

Ahem.
Anyway,
Ghosts.

I do believe that there is such a thing out there,
Being a spiritual entity that cannot/refuses to go to, ah, the "next" part of exsitance (sp?)
Or whatever it's called.

Though, I would only think that would be the, ah, more "free" ghosts
That respond to people and are able to scare the shit out of you

The kind of ghosts that are simply like a tape caught on record
I see more as, say, a part of a person
A memory, let's say,
That has been imprinted on that area
And is unable to be removed,
Unless, like, destroying the entire house :|

Either way, my answer is a "Y"

Posted by: Exoro Nov 26 2010, 10:43 PM

I live very close to the city of New Orleans, so ghosts, spirits, ect. aren't unfamiliar. My parents have gone to certain lodging areas (I can't remember if it was hotels or B&Bs or what) and have had odd things happen such as doors closing by themselves and bizarre noises. Im sure a LOT of places like this are fake and use some methods to immitate the typical haunted house scene, but others are probably real. There are a lot of television shows about ghost stories, and although im sure most are fake I wouldn't be suprised of some were real. Unlike other topics like Aliens, ghostly activity is known well worldwide. Other worldly life is too but not nearly as well as ghosts.

Many other cities are known for spirits too, I hear London has good bunch of haunts in the castle(s). Im sure you can see by now, but yeah, I believe in them. Always found it interesting how effective holy water is in some cases, but it tends to just supress the souls for a certain amount of time, not help them 'pass on' or leave.

EDIT: I tottaly forgot, one of my Uncles told me a few stories that are apparenly true encounters his family has had with ghosts. One of two boys who were brothers, did everything together, both cought pnuemonia and died, and was spotted by a family member a week after they died. Similar with a woman who went to a stump when she was depressed.

Posted by: lala94 Nov 26 2010, 11:19 PM

I believe in ghost, I've encountered one before...

Posted by: Chu Chu Nov 26 2010, 11:39 PM

I do. I've never actually seen one but it'd be nice to. cat.gif

Posted by: General Rike Nov 27 2010, 07:40 PM

My friend was at my house over night and next day she told me about how our house was haunted.
I did not believe a word she said and just told her that it's just our old house which is making noises. You know, pipes and such.

... well, some time after that I noticed that our house was truly "haunted". :l Definitely not "just our old house's noises". I've experienced it even at daylight so it's a little bit creepy.
Haunting might not be best word to describe it since I don't know if I should call them(?) ghosts. I don't know if I can call them spirits or souls either. Maybe it's just other realm, sideway to ours, or maybe some "restless spirits" or their strong memories. Can't say for sure, no one can.

... however, I don't believe such crap "haunting" shows which come from TV. It's not even entertaining.

Haven't experienced ghosts in years, and the stuff that happened long ago seem just like a bad dream. Even though my friends claim that in our apartment is one ghost, who closes WC's door, knocks glasses over in the kitchen and makes funny noises in the night but I have not yet witnessed such so... I'm always skeptical about it.

I do also understand why some people don't believe in them. I didn't, at first. It should be experienced by themselves.
Sometimes people also think I'm crazy and gullible when I tell about my experiences but... nah.

However, the answer is yep. Yes I do.

Posted by: FancyGranola Nov 28 2010, 04:06 AM

QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 26 2010, 11:57 AM) *
beliefs are in fact religion, just your own beliefs in a official religion.


What?
I believe in evolution. Evolution is not a religion. Others believe in it. Natural selection is too good.

Do not throw around the term "Atheist" around like that. Yes it means you do not believe in God. But God itself is a touchy subject. It immediately strikes a negative string no matter how you phrase it.

So people do not believe in God. Doesn't mean others do not believe in the supernatural. Poltergeists are everyone's friends.

QUOTE(Ezio Auditore da Firenze @ Nov 26 2010, 01:01 PM) *
Can't we all just get along


It's a debate.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 28 2010, 03:30 PM

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 28 2010, 05:06 AM) *
QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 26 2010, 11:57 AM) *
beliefs are in fact religion, just your own beliefs in a official religion.


What?
I believe in evolution. Evolution is not a religion. Others believe in it. Natural selection is too good.

Do not throw around the term "Atheist" around like that. Yes it means you do not believe in God. But God itself is a touchy subject. It immediately strikes a negative string no matter how you phrase it.

So people do not believe in God. Doesn't mean others do not believe in the supernatural. Poltergeists are everyone's friends.

QUOTE(Ezio Auditore da Firenze @ Nov 26 2010, 01:01 PM) *
Can't we all just get along


It's a debate.


Agreed. Assuming ghosts exist, why would they limit themselves to those of religion? That's just as rediculous as thinking an alien invasion is going to start, or that some psycho is going to break in the night after you watch a scary movie. It's not like all of these things are waiting in the background for you to watch a movie...or turn to a religion to start pulling shenanigans.

Posted by: Ezio Auditore da Firenze Nov 28 2010, 08:00 PM

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 28 2010, 04:06 AM) *
It's a debate.

I know, but that was aimed at all the religion related things being said in a debate about personal belief on ghosts. It was just jokey anyway, so don't take it seriously.

QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 28 2010, 03:30 PM) *
Agreed. Assuming ghosts exist, why would they limit themselves to those of religion? That's just as rediculous as thinking an alien invasion is going to start, or that some psycho is going to break in the night after you watch a scary movie. It's not like all of these things are waiting in the background for you to watch a movie...or turn to a religion to start pulling shenanigans.


Maybe it's because religious people are considered more "spiritual", what with the belief in a deity, and easier to "contact" because of this. At least, that's what my great grandmother, who was a devout catholic, said to me on the subject a few years ago.
I myself can't see this. Does this mean that it's impossible to have a true experience without following a religion?
Ghost have yet to be proven, but yet to be disproved, too.
Until there is solid proof there's no such thing as ghosts, I'll believe.
So with that I'll take my leave.

Posted by: evolutionrex Nov 29 2010, 12:20 AM

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 28 2010, 01:06 AM) *
QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 26 2010, 11:57 AM) *
beliefs are in fact religion, just your own beliefs in a official religion.


What?
I believe in evolution. Evolution is not a religion. Others believe in it. Natural selection is too good.

Do not throw around the term "Atheist" around like that. Yes it means you do not believe in God. But God itself is a touchy subject. It immediately strikes a negative string no matter how you phrase it.

So people do not believe in God. Doesn't mean others do not believe in the supernatural. Poltergeists are everyone's friends.


Okay, religion by definition is something you believe. Is it an official religion? Does it have churches? No, but it's still something you believe. Evolution is part of your religion. your kind of personal religion. What you believe is your religion.

And now your saying i can't mention my atheism? that's offensive. Your saying it's "negative?"

And, no just becuase your atheist doesn't mean you don't believe in ghost but name me one. It's uncommon, that's all i meant.

Posted by: FancyGranola Nov 29 2010, 12:27 AM

QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 28 2010, 09:20 PM) *
Okay, religion by definition is something you believe. Is it an official religion? Does it have churches? No, but it's still something you believe. Evolution is part of your religion. your kind of personal religion. What you believe is your religion.



/end discussion

QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 28 2010, 09:20 PM) *
And now your saying i can't mention my atheism? that's offensive. Your saying it's "negative?"


Never said you can't. But I recommend not using the term because evidently, it doesn't give good results. Clearly it shows that the term "Atheist" is not well understood.

Posted by: Evangelion Nov 29 2010, 01:30 AM

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 29 2010, 01:27 PM) *
QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 28 2010, 09:20 PM) *
Okay, religion by definition is something you believe. Is it an official religion? Does it have churches? No, but it's still something you believe. Evolution is part of your religion. your kind of personal religion. What you believe is your religion.



/end discussion

QUOTE(evolutionrex @ Nov 28 2010, 09:20 PM) *
And now your saying i can't mention my atheism? that's offensive. Your saying it's "negative?"


Never said you can't. But I recommend not using the term because evidently, it doesn't give good results. Clearly it shows that the term "Atheist" is not well understood.


On topic, I believe that there are ghost that exist in this world. Documentaries have shown and proven that some supernatural things are occuring all over the world. Yes, people do not believe it, but then again, there is no concrete evidence that actually states that ghosts do not exist. Or probably there are I couldn't find any. So, unless anyone can show some concrete evidence that ghost do not exist, the possibility of ghosts exisiting in this world will still be there.

Sorry for my bad english though. srsfacts.gif

Posted by: Reyo Nov 29 2010, 01:36 AM

QUOTE(Ezio Auditore da Firenze @ Nov 28 2010, 09:00 PM) *
QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Nov 28 2010, 04:06 AM) *
It's a debate.

I know, but that was aimed at all the religion related things being said in a debate about personal belief on ghosts. It was just jokey anyway, so don't take it seriously.

QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 28 2010, 03:30 PM) *
Agreed. Assuming ghosts exist, why would they limit themselves to those of religion? That's just as rediculous as thinking an alien invasion is going to start, or that some psycho is going to break in the night after you watch a scary movie. It's not like all of these things are waiting in the background for you to watch a movie...or turn to a religion to start pulling shenanigans.


Maybe it's because religious people are considered more "spiritual", what with the belief in a deity, and easier to "contact" because of this. At least, that's what my great grandmother, who was a devout catholic, said to me on the subject a few years ago.
I myself can't see this. Does this mean that it's impossible to have a true experience without following a religion?
Ghost have yet to be proven, but yet to be disproved, too.
Until there is solid proof there's no such thing as ghosts, I'll believe.
So with that I'll take my leave.


It's probably more that it happens to everyone, but the religious people say "ghosts" while the nonreligious people say "weird shit that isn't ghosts" (or they ignore it). It's a lot seeing more of a certain car everywhere after buying that model of car. It was everywhere before buying the car, it's just that it wasn't important to you.

Posted by: AetherWolf Dec 4 2010, 06:35 PM

You know what they say... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScUsvQZkTY
Being scared plays tricks on our mind.
So no, I don't logically believe in ghosts.
I lol at those ghost hunter shows. They just look around old, dark places and point everything that occurs to a ghost.

Posted by: Daruny Dec 4 2010, 10:23 PM

Believe in ghost but I've never seen one.

Do I want to see one?

Of course.

Will I be scared silly?

In a way no... but if it had a rocket launcher then yes.

Posted by: Evangelion Dec 8 2010, 09:34 AM

QUOTE(AetherWolf @ Dec 5 2010, 07:35 AM) *
You know what they say... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScUsvQZkTY
Being scared plays tricks on our mind.
So no, I don't logically believe in ghosts.
I lol at those ghost hunter shows. They just look around old, dark places and point everything that occurs to a ghost.


Objection. Ghost Hunter shows don't just point at anything that occurs to a ghost. So if you think it's not, you can feel free to prove it. I think it is ghost, although I've never seen one. And yes, those dark, old places are pretty lame. And when you are afraid, your brain play tricks on you. That's true. But then sometimes, people experience things when they AREN'T afraid. But there is a possibility they are trying to get famous or something. Like those famous UFO sighting might all be farmers throwing their hat around snapping pictures and show it to researchers and they stupidly believe it's an UFO. I don't believe in UFO, but I believe in ghost.

Posted by: TehHuntress Dec 12 2010, 06:53 PM

Okay, Evolutionrex and Fancy.
This is about GHOSTS!
G-H-O-S-T-S!
Not about how religion EFFECTS ghosts!
All I want to know, if if you belive in them, or not.
So quit this little discussion about what you think religion has to with this and that.
'Kay? Alright.

Posted by: Painted Fox Dec 12 2010, 06:59 PM

When my cat died i saw almost an outline of it in the house but upon closer inspection the cat's shadow was not there.

Yes i believe that ghosts exist but they are benevolent things that just go "woogy, woogy, woogy" or just appear somewhere.

Posted by: Bettadude Dec 18 2010, 11:21 PM

http://www.cracked.com/article_18828_the-creepy-scientific-explanation-behind-ghost-sightings.html

Posted by: MoogleSam Dec 19 2010, 02:42 AM

QUOTE(Bettadude @ Dec 19 2010, 04:21 AM) *
http://www.cracked.com/article_18828_the-creepy-scientific-explanation-behind-ghost-sightings.html


Explains some, not all and besides, on the first half it says only 22% felt dread because of the sound at that concert so 78% didn't feel dread which is they way it should have affected them. So only 22% of people would be affected by it which, rounded down, is a fifth. :/

Some can probably also be explained by gas leaks or mental issues, others can be explained by the eyes playing tricks on you but, when you boil it down until there are no ways left to explain what could have happened, there will still be unexplained sightings left.

Posted by: splicetastica Dec 20 2010, 06:43 PM

Ghosts ARE real! No doubt about it! My mom had an experience with her dead dog once. But also, Ghost
Adventures on travel channel, and Ghost hunters, are totally legit! There is no way on planet unicorn that they wouldn't exist! Whew. I like this thread. Curses to the non believers!

Posted by: Bettadude Dec 24 2010, 01:07 PM

QUOTE(MoogleSam @ Dec 19 2010, 02:42 AM) *
QUOTE(Bettadude @ Dec 19 2010, 04:21 AM) *
http://www.cracked.com/article_18828_the-creepy-scientific-explanation-behind-ghost-sightings.html


Explains some, not all and besides, on the first half it says only 22% felt dread because of the sound at that concert so 78% didn't feel dread which is they way it should have affected them. So only 22% of people would be affected by it which, rounded down, is a fifth. :/

Some can probably also be explained by gas leaks or mental issues, others can be explained by the eyes playing tricks on you but, when you boil it down until there are no ways left to explain what could have happened, there will still be unexplained sightings left.


Actually, gas leaks, infrasound, insanity, and pareidolia pretty much explain all of the cases I've heard of except for one, whose origins are dubious and I haven't bothered to investigate further yet.

Posted by: Kyudo Dec 27 2010, 11:34 AM

QUOTE(splicetastica @ Dec 20 2010, 05:43 PM) *
Ghosts ARE real! No doubt about it! My mom had an experience with her dead dog once. But also, Ghost
Adventures on travel channel, and Ghost hunters, are totally legit! There is no way on planet unicorn that they wouldn't exist! Whew. I like this thread. Curses to the non believers!


Did I hear Ghost Adventures? I did? Hell yeah!
That show is awesome.

But let's not curse the non believers shall we. They have their own opinion, we should respect that.
Not everyone is going to believe in ghosts.

Posted by: rileyup Jan 12 2011, 04:59 PM

nah i belive sprits go to heavon

Posted by: quilman Jan 12 2011, 05:09 PM

I don't know if ghosts really exist, but I believe there are ghosts.

Posted by: antesqui Jan 13 2011, 02:30 AM

I believe in ghosts. While growing up I was never taught that ghosts and the such weren't real but I wasn't entirely taught that they were. However, since I've been young I'd always been into the paranormal and what not. Have I seen a ghost? I believe I have. Was it scary? I almost peed myself!

My family/friends always come to me when they want to know if a house is haunted or what to do when they believe that the house is haunted. In my family and friends I'm the King of the Occult. cat.gif

Posted by: FancyGranola Jan 26 2011, 05:16 AM

QUOTE(TehHuntress @ Dec 12 2010, 03:53 PM) *
Okay, Evolutionrex and Fancy.
This is about GHOSTS!
G-H-O-S-T-S!
Not about how religion EFFECTS ghosts!
All I want to know, if if you belive in them, or not.
So quit this little discussion about what you think religion has to with this and that.
'Kay? Alright.


I don't even... Is it just me or are you trying to say that spirits and religion have no correlation.

Posted by: MoogleSam Jan 26 2011, 07:37 PM

QUOTE(FancyGranola @ Jan 26 2011, 10:16 AM) *
QUOTE(TehHuntress @ Dec 12 2010, 03:53 PM) *
Okay, Evolutionrex and Fancy.
This is about GHOSTS!
G-H-O-S-T-S!
Not about how religion EFFECTS ghosts!
All I want to know, if if you belive in them, or not.
So quit this little discussion about what you think religion has to with this and that.
'Kay? Alright.


I don't even... Is it just me or are you trying to say that spirits and religion have no correlation.


They aren't saying there is no correlation but that they just want to know if you believe in ghosts, not why or how religion affects your belief in them/others belief in them.

Posted by: Verinia Mar 6 2011, 12:01 AM

Um, I kinda believe in them, since I saw one in our mirror last year.

Posted by: Sladin4Ever Mar 6 2011, 06:36 AM

I kind of believe in ghosts, but haven't actually SEEN one. Though, recently while putting a cup in our cupboard, I saw a white dust-like thing falling and then it vanished suddenly. I thought that maybe it was just a small piece of debris from the shelf cover falling, but when I tried to find it on the counter or on the other shelf of the cupboard, I couldn't find it

Posted by: Ladida Mar 8 2011, 05:27 PM

I don't believe in ghosts. I think a lot of it is the fact that TV kinda makes it as some big selling point, so that throws me off even more to even wanting to believe or care. I've also never had any experience seeing or even really being creeped out by things that go bump at night. My parents believe in them and I do have to say they are religious as I am not. So I don't know if their are ties with that or not. Just saying.

Posted by: Disgracik Jun 10 2012, 10:47 AM

Real, according to experience of people who I know. Personally I haven't seen them, and don't want, but I 100% believe they are exist.

Posted by: Thenoah43 Jun 12 2012, 09:51 PM

I fully belive they exist but those tv shows are full of crap when it co
Es to proven there was a ghost..all hype. I do believe they are real

Posted by: strictlyninja Jun 19 2012, 02:11 PM

As a Methodist, I see it like this:

Ghosts are "wayward souls" right? Well, whan you die, your soul goes to heaven or hell. Where else would it really go? It can't really escape, so I don't understand how there can really be ghosts.

But ghost shows ARE really fun to watch. I'll admit that.

Posted by: Koops Jun 24 2012, 12:12 PM

Ghost's are nothing. They don't exist.
Why do I think this?
Because it defies all possible explanation. There is no way one can exist. The TV programs are a bunch of lies, with the whole magnetic field and everything. That's because they're probably in an area that has a higher magnetic field.

On the other hand, I don't mind stories and movies with them in. It's fiction. Fiction is fiction, and you can't hate fiction because it ain't real.

Posted by: GraphicCamel Jun 24 2012, 02:39 PM

QUOTE(Ladida @ Mar 8 2011, 03:27 PM) *
I don't believe in ghosts. I think a lot of it is the fact that TV kinda makes it as some big selling point, so that throws me off even more to even wanting to believe or care. I've also never had any experience seeing or even really being creeped out by things that go bump at night. My parents believe in them and I do have to say they are religious as I am not. So I don't know if their are ties with that or not. Just saying.


This.

Posted by: Better Lexxie Alicroy Jun 24 2012, 03:24 PM

Souls aren't actual things. So I find it highly illogical to believe that the "soul" could ever manifest into a being after death.
The thought of ghosts is just impossible to me.

Posted by: strictlyninja Jun 26 2012, 11:55 AM

QUOTE(Better Lexxie Alicroy @ Jun 24 2012, 01:24 PM) *
Souls aren't actual things. So I find it highly illogical to believe that the "soul" could ever manifest into a being after death.
The thought of ghosts is just impossible to me.


I don't understand.

Posted by: GraphicCamel Jun 26 2012, 02:28 PM

QUOTE(Better Lexxie Alicroy @ Jun 24 2012, 01:24 PM) *
Souls aren't actual things. So I find it highly illogical to believe that the "soul" could ever manifest into a being after death.
The thought of ghosts is just impossible to me.


And this.

Posted by: Dragonflames1994 Jun 26 2012, 07:51 PM

Nah, I don't believe in them at all. It just doesn't have any real reason to happen, when you look at it in scientific terms. A creature is born, lives, and eventually it's heart stops and it dies. That's all there really is to it. There just really isn't any reason ghosts would form, as "spirit" is only your personality, and is gone when your brain dies.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I'm just saying that ghosts really wouldn't make any sense.

Posted by: AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken Jun 27 2012, 12:29 PM

I have no doubt in my mind that ghosts do not exist. Those ghost hunting shows piss me off to no end. Such bullcrap.
I don't know about an 'afterlife' but I really hope there isn't one, I'm somewhat looking forward to being completely non existent and unaware.

Posted by: Kima Rose Jul 1 2012, 01:49 AM

I firmly believe in ghosts although I absolutely agree that the Tv shows & propaganda are complete & utter bull.
To believe something like this isn't really explainable but having actually sees/felt something is even harder to explain.
So whether you may or may not believe it doesn't give anyone the right to say that what other people think is wrong, everyone is entitled to their own opinions & beliefs.

Posted by: Hiccup Anaise Baynton Jul 1 2012, 04:17 AM

I definitely beleive in ghosts! My friends dad has said that both he AND his friend saw the ghosts of maids roaming his old school when he was young. Also, my uncle has claimed to have seen a girl but when he reached to turn on the light she was suddenly gone. The same uncle and his mother (my grandma) do say they can sometimes feel weird presences in certain places. My back garden is attatched to the oldest house in our area and though many have claimed that it is haunted by a woman, I have never seen anything, nor has my friend who lives there. So yes, I do throughly beleive in ghosts!

Posted by: zerohundred Aug 24 2012, 01:51 PM

I personally, do believe in ghosts, and my religion/spirituality has absolutely nothing to do with it. To be honest, I think the only reason scientific minds don't believe in it is because of their precious "rationality" (which imho, is just arrogence, but that's just my opinion), which prohibits them from beleiving in something without a scientific explination, or makes them dismiss something existance just because it doesn't SEEM possable. The only reason this isn't a complete science is because all of the scientific minds that are beleivers haven't come up with a scientific mechanism to support the idea of ghosts.
I would like to propose such a scientific theory srsfacts.gif

my theory (click to show)

I would also like to say that is is LITERALLY and SCIENTIFICALLY impossable to say that you know 100% that ghosts don't exist, you can't disprove ghosts as a whole. srsbsns.gif You can disprove a specific senario to not be caused by a paranormal or superatural entity, but you can't say that there is "no such thing as ghosts", because you can never know that. unless of course, your dead lol I can understand saying "well, there is not enough scientific evidence/theorys/research to prove for ceartain the existance of ghosts." that would make sense. but to say you don't believe in it because it's not "rational" is just arrogent.

Posted by: Better Lexxie Alicroy Aug 26 2012, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(zerohundred @ Aug 24 2012, 01:51 PM) *
I personally, do believe in ghosts, and my religion/spirituality has absolutely nothing to do with it. To be honest, I think the only reason scientific minds don't believe in it is because of their precious "rationality" (which imho, is just arrogence, but that's just my opinion), which prohibits them from beleiving in something without a scientific explination, or makes them dismiss something existance just because it doesn't SEEM possable. The only reason this isn't a complete science is because all of the scientific minds that are beleivers haven't come up with a scientific mechanism to support the idea of ghosts.
I would like to propose such a scientific theory srsfacts.gif
my theory (click to show)

I would also like to say that is is LITERALLY and SCIENTIFICALLY impossable to say that you know 100% that ghosts don't exist, you can't disprove ghosts as a whole. srsbsns.gif You can disprove a specific senario to not be caused by a paranormal or superatural entity, but you can't say that there is "no such thing as ghosts", because you can never know that. unless of course, your dead lol I can understand saying "well, there is not enough scientific evidence/theorys/research to prove for ceartain the existance of ghosts." that would make sense. but to say you don't believe in it because it's not "rational" is just arrogent.

Except, not believing someone could come back after death as a spirit isn't arrogance.

Posted by: The Twilight Knight Aug 29 2012, 01:56 PM

I believe in ghosts.

Posted by: Nemu Aug 29 2012, 02:06 PM

Totally believe in ghosts, and for good reason too.

Lots of strange things with people I know in real life and myself. Some of it just insanely scary.

Posted by: NuzzlingPlague Sep 9 2012, 01:48 AM

I really can't say I believe whether or not ghosts exist. I mean, weird things have happened to me, but I can't really say ghost did them. It could just as easily have been my mind playing tricks or exaggerating details.

Posted by: BlueXephos Oct 21 2012, 04:50 PM

Ghosts only exist because we make them exist. The trend in society becomes a massive bandwagon, and those slightly emotionally unstable would create illusions for themselves to see. Groups of people that follow one trend and believe in one ghost would slowly suffer the same effect as one person believing in an illusion. Yes, ghosts may be real, but it is because humans give them the consent of existence, that they exist.

Posted by: Tales Nov 5 2012, 07:57 AM

I believe in the possibility of ghosts/spirits, but don't believe they are necessarily the spirits of the dead.
However I refuse to truly believe one way or the other until I have some kind of reliable proof.

Posted by: i ME 1998 Nov 17 2012, 12:31 PM

I always believed in ghost :l I´ve never seen one, but I think they are real, because that´s where the paranormal activities come from ...

Posted by: SilverLugia456 Nov 22 2012, 07:03 PM

This is a widen debate, I do believe in ghosts but as a heard on a show once, even though you see something weird happen like a chair moving on its own or maybe a door opening on its own with no explanation cause you don't see anyone or anything moving it then its not normal cause that stuff doesn't move on its own so its paranormal. Some people might find it more comfortable to call something like that paranormal instead of ghosts because of looking at it that way. So whether or not one believes in ghosts there could always be something paranormal happening to someone somewhere

Posted by: Sora the Pikachu Nov 22 2012, 09:34 PM

I believe in Ghosts, totally.

But, the fact that when someone dies, their spirit lingers around on occasions is actually hard to believe. At first, I didn't believe in any...and then I heard and experienced some of the stories at my Grandparent's house...let me tell you, one of the most scariest things ever...

But something like a door opening for no reason and a chair moving for no reason doesn't mean it's paranormal. The door in my room always opens at unsuspecting moments, but only a crack, and if I'm lucky, I can sometimes see the doorknob turn and watch it open, with no one on the other side, yet I don't think my house is haunted...yet.

End of Statement.

Posted by: Plastique Fox Dec 1 2012, 05:54 PM

Nice topic and Yeah I believe entities exist!

Posted by: jellybean chi Mar 19 2013, 11:56 PM

i believe in angels and demons, but that "souls" have a place away from earth after death. so... i guess that the "ghost" is either a demon or a poltergeist (which is a collection of negative energies and all that), or maybe just strong energy or memory imprinted or whatever, but not necessarily the person's soul...
i've experienced something "ghost-like" a couple of times when i was younger, but mainly now i'm just paranoid =/

Posted by: Kiwani Mar 21 2013, 12:55 PM

I'm one of those people that I have to have something paranormal happen to me before I believe it. I believe that there are spirits that are stuck here on because of something tramatic happened before they died though. You can say that I'm a skeptic, but not ones that doesn't believe that are spirits amongst us at all.

Posted by: trainer Mar 26 2013, 11:16 AM

I heard that some people actually touched a ghost before and I really believe that there are ghosts everywhere as well. also, I heard that some ghosts are not trying to scare your wits out, they are just hanging around.

Posted by: Celeste2002 Dec 14 2013, 03:17 AM

I think that the possibility of ghosts existing would be astronomical.

Posted by: Amyline Jul 4 2014, 12:59 PM

ghosts don't exist

Posted by: Princess Daisy Jul 11 2014, 10:11 PM

The only kind of "proof" regarding ghosts is anecdotal. So.

Posted by: tooawkwardtolive Oct 16 2016, 08:13 PM

I think it could be possible. But mostly not.

Posted by: DamienLee Jul 29 2020, 03:07 AM

QUOTE(jellybean chi @ Mar 19 2013, 11:56 PM) *
i believe in angels and demons, but that "souls" have a place away from earth after death. so... i guess that the "ghost" is either a demon or a poltergeist (which is a collection of negative energies and all that), or maybe just strong energy or memory imprinted or whatever, but not necessarily the person's soul...
i've experienced something "ghost-like" a couple of times when i was younger, but mainly now i'm just paranoid =/


The topic of angels and demons has become a bit kitsch after all these TV series. However, I definitely believe in the afterlife as a kind of parallel universe. I definitely would not want to be able to see this since such things do not fit in the human mind peacefully. But sometimes I myself face such manifestations (as a rule, these are the souls of relatives). The dead can come to us in me or give advice using special systems. I'm not a medium))) Sometimes I just ask a question inside myself and look for a combination of numbers. The answer looks something like this - https://www.sunsigns.org/angel-number-33-meaning/ I believe that this is a good proof of the partial contact of our world with the other world.

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