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Pokemon types that make you go 'Wait WUT?'
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post Apr 14 2012, 09:05 PM
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i think regigigas should have been a ground type


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post Apr 16 2012, 06:15 PM
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Honestly, Arceus, Mainly because if It/He/She/Thing created EVERYTHING I would personally think it would have to be something other than normal... Probably like a ??? type walloftext.gif


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post Apr 19 2012, 02:57 PM
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Altaria being part Dragon. :T


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post Apr 19 2012, 05:51 PM
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I never figured that:
- Paras/Parasect were part grass, though I suppose it could have something to do with the mushrooms carried
- Lucario was part steel
- Frillish and Jellicant were part ghost
- Bulbasaur was part poison (being the only dual typed starter)


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post Apr 21 2012, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Matt Cat @ Jun 9 2011, 11:41 PM) *
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QUOTE(Matt Cat @ Jun 10 2011, 02:03 AM) *
The fact that Gyarados is part flying instead of part dragon really baffles me.

It's based on a Chinese legend about a carp that jumps over a waterfall and gains the ability to fly, or something like that.

The fact that it doesn't learn fly contradicts the legend though; that's the part that baffles me more than the cosmetic side of it. It does look remarkably like one of those Chinese Dragons, yes, but I don't recall any of those being able to take to the air -- unless I missed something? *shrugs*

I would've added the legend, but I forgot what it was after I first heard of it.


It does get Bounce, but that's by Tutor...

Anyways, why is Latios not part Flying and part Dragon instead?


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post Apr 21 2012, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(SomeRandomDude314 @ Apr 21 2012, 01:23 PM) *
It does get Bounce, but that's by Tutor...

Anyways, why is Latios not part Flying and part Dragon instead?


Theres only room for two types, and because Flying can be thought of more like a 'secondary' type, it was omitted. Other Pokemon are missing a third type as well, such as Flygon (missing Flying, but has the Levitate ability to replace it), and Lugia (which should have the Water type attatched, being the 'Diving Pokemon', but is instead a Psychic/Flying type).


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Actually, the Lugia not being Water/Flying is because GF probably didn't want a Legendary to have a 4x weakness to a rather common type. And as for Altaria being part Dragon, it's based off of the Chinese Peng, which are birds of enormous size often represented with a dragon's head and whiskers whom also have cloudlike wings. Its Japanese name, Tyltalis, could also come from the name for the star Epsilon Draconis, also known as 'Tyl', which in itself is a reference to the play L'Oiseau Bleu, a play by Maurice Maeterlinck, a Belgian playwright. The play is about two siblings, Mytyl and Tyltyl, who are searching for the 'blue bird of happiness'. Their names are translated as ミチル and チルチル in the Japanese version of the play.

Information on Altaria courtesy of http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Alt..._(Pok%C3%A9mon)

EDIT: Just saw the post asking why Lucario is part Steel. The most likely reason is that its name in Japanese, Rukario, can be interpreted as either the word 'oracle' or 'orichalcum' in reverse then transcribed to Katakana. Orichalcum itself is thought to be an alloy of metals ranging from gold/copper, copper/tin, copper/zinc/brass, or even a metal no longer known about. The word itself is derived from the Greek word oreikhalkos, which is derived from oros (mountain), and chalkos (copper or bronze).

Information on orichalcum courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum

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    • Reasoning - Due to the anime, Psyduck was said to have psychic abilities, and in the games, learned a good amount of Psychic moves. Due to this, I figured it evolved into a Water/Psychic, but was disappointed when I found out that wasn't the case.
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    • Reasoning - Due to my own general confusion, Horsea upon becoming a Seadra was able to use Poison Sting, as well as a couple of other Poison moves. This caused me to think that it was part Poison. Haha! Boy, was that ever silly thinking.
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    • Reasoning - Tree = Grass, right? Right?! NOPE. Boy was my poor Quilava ever surprised to be greeted by a Rock Slide to the face. I was so infuriated I didn't care what type it was, and went out of my way to DESTROY it. Yep. Didn't catch it. I KO'd both it and Red Gyarados in my first playthrough of Silver, back when they first came out.
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    • Reasoning - Zubat (the only bat to date at this point) was Poison/Flying. Gligar kinda looks like a bat, but with a socrpion tail. This caused my childish mind to think "Oh! It's a Poison/Flying!". *shrugs* We learn eventually, thank goodness.
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    • Reasoning - 2After watching Pokemon 4Ever (Still a silly title but whatever), and watching Suicune run on water, I began to think it was then part Water. Afterall, it was called the North Wind, and the North is cold, and there's ice there. Aurora Beam didn't help my confusion either. Oh how silly I was.


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post May 10 2012, 03:00 AM
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I didn't realize that magnamite picked up the 'steel' type until I joined gpx.
I guess that one makes sense though.
Why is seedots later evos dark? Idk you tell me.
Sudowoodo always confused me too ^w^

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For a while, I thought Victini was a Normal/Fire type, not a Psychic/Normal. *shrugs*

For an even longer time, I thought Dratini was Water/Dragon. Must've been the blue coloration, and that they're found near water at times.


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Regarding Nuzleaf and Shiftry's Dark typing: they happen to be based off of Japanese goblinlike spirits known as tengu, which are classified into two types:
Daitengu (Lit: Great tengu): The more benevolent variety, is often regarded in a protecting role. Shiftry is based on this variant of tengu. This type is also referred to as hanatakatengu (Lit: Tall-nosed tengu).
Kotengu (Lit: Small tengu): The malevolent variety, prone to playing nasty pranks on people. I theorize that Nuzleaf is based off this variant of tengu. This type is also referred to as Karasu-Tengu (Lit: Crow tengu) or koppatengu/konohatengu (Lit: Foliage tengu).

An additional clue lies in Shiftry's Japanese name, Dirteng, a corruption of daitengu. Although Bulbapedia has a different etymology for that name, this is the one I deem more fitting. (Bulbapedia derives it from dark or dirty and tengu).

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That ugly Stufisk thing...The one that looks like a derpy pancake. It being ground and electric. I don't even know how that works. If it uses electric attacks, it'd cancel the attack out since it's a ground type B|


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I just now discovered that Jirachi was Psychic AND Steel! He was in my first Pokemon movie when it came out, my friend let me borrow his Jirachi on Diamond, and that thing was is one of my favorite Legendaries! When the /hell/ did he gain a Steel type? .__o'

Don't get me started on the Creation Trio... '>.> (Yeah, Giratina, I'm lookin' at you...)
Uh, Jirachi's always been part Steel. Has to do with the metallic alloys often found in comets.

Giratina is a ghost type because Giratina is essentially the ruler of the underworld. Granted, it's not the underworld of our lore, Giratina's realm is more like the backstage of a theatre than it is a realm of death, but that's what it is. Note the broken halo on its forehead.

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Uh, surfskit {..epic spell fail} is like bug and water.
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>:u those don't go together.
Surskit is based on a spider, who ejects oil (you know, oil thicker than water) from its feet and can walk on water. This is real, folks.

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On another note,HOW IN THE %&^%^$ WORLD CAN GOLETT LEARN FLY?!?!?!?!

Rockets. And because Golurk can. (by folding in his legs and hands and sprouting rocckets. Now, explain to me how the ancients managed to do with rocks and fire what NASA needs a multi billion dollar budget to do?)

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why is delibird ice/flying. I know its a penguin but penguins cant fly and it looks misleading


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A)So that Delibird can learn other flying moves. Well, TMs
B)Because Delibird fly (See Anime)
C)Becasue Santa Claus, whom Delibird is based off of, can fly.

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That ugly Stufisk thing...The one that looks like a derpy pancake. It being ground and electric. I don't even know how that works. If it uses electric attacks, it'd cancel the attack out since it's a ground type B|


Actually, you're forgetting that Nidoking (Poison/GRD) can learn Thunder too. Stunfisk is a Mudfish Pokemon, specifically a flounder (lives on the seafloor to wait for prey, has eyes in odd places) and a eel or electric stingray who can also zap a fish and cook its own lunch. The fact that the fishy is not water is a bit odd, but then if it was, it'd be a ripoff of Lanturn. I do wish that its ground type would protect its electric type weakness, but oh well.

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Just got my hands on LARVESTA on this site. And a BUG/FIRE type makes me a tad confused...

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Sudowoodo always confused me too ^w^


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The type that surprised me was Litwick's Ghost typing. It doesn't look like a ghost.
True, but how many seances involve candles?

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Honestly, Arceus, Mainly because if It/He/She/Thing created EVERYTHING I would personally think it would have to be something other than normal... Probably like a ??? type


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Arceus's multitype, Like, You'd think the default type would be somethin better, Not normal

You forget, Normal is supposed to be a baseline. most normal types can learn a huge range of types as well, because they are a baseline. Ditto's a baseline who can become anything.

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8 the pan'swhy are you normal until you evolve?.
Fixed due to annoyingness meme.

It's because they are still young. And they evolve with the stones, so their evolutions are inheiring the powers from the stones.

Although, I hadn't really looked to check and see that they were normal types, so what do I know?

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3. Giratina. Why are you NOt a DARK type?
Probably because we got Darkrai at the same time. Simple as that. Also, Giratina is supposed to be more of an underworld ruler than truly evil.

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i was convinced that luxray was part dark, i had an argument with my brother about it, i lost.
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^I've heard a lot of people are curious about that exact thing. Truth is, the Luxray line was meant to be an ATK-based counterpart to the SATK Manectric line. That, and its unusual blue/black/yellow color scheme calls to mind darkness and night.

On Golett learning Fly: It's a Shout-Out to the movie The Iron Giant. Check this page for more info (you'll need to scroll down to the New Pokémon Tropes to find it.)

Regarding Litwick and its line: It's not meant to be a reference to seances, but rather a combination of Hitodama (a blue, black, or purple flame associated with ghosts and youkai, roughly the Japanese equivalent of the Western will-o'-the-wisp) and candles. Its Japanese name also holds a clue, being potentially derived from the Japanese hitomoshi, 火点し (Lit: to light a lamp, or a funeral-procession leader) or hitomoshi, 人燃し (to burn a man [to death]). Both of these words are death-related, and Ghost-types do have a tendency to be death-themed. A candlelike Fire/Ghost 'mon makes sense in light of this. Likewise, Lampent (a combination of the aforementioned Hitodama and an oil street lamp) and Chandelure (a combination of Hitodama and a chandelier) continue this 'soul-fire' concept.

And even though Giratina's typing has been brought up, I'd like to add something to what's already been said.
I believe the Ghost typing has something to do with the fact that Giratina is a representation of antimatter. Word of God from Junichi Masuda has confirmed this, as well as in-game confirmation in the HGSS Arceus event. I have the April 2009 issue of Nintendo Power, and there is an interview with Masuda and Takeshi Kawachimaru in the cover story on Platinum Version. Here's an excerpt from the interview (Question will be in Bold, responses distinguished by italics):

NP: Did you have the ideas for Pokémon Platinum in mind when working on Pokémon Diamond and Pokémon Pearl, or did they come about later?

Masuda: While developing Diamond and Pearl. Giratina originally embodied the idea of an "antiworld", which is a paradox of Time and Space. It exists in relation to Dialga and Palkia. That's what I had in mind when I was developing Diamond and Pearl.

Kawachimaru: I was not aware of any of that during the Diamond and Pearl development. Masuda told me about it when we started developing Platinum. So it was after Diamond and Pearl for me (laughs). I normally receive key terms from Masuda in the first stage of development, but there were many random terms like "antimatter" and "e=mc2", "Reversed Mt. Fuji" ("Sakasa Fuji") and so on. He explained that "Sakasa Fuji" is the reflection of Mt. Fuji on the lake, and it's the antimatter world. It was challenging to put that concept in the game, so we did extensive research. I didn't know what exactly "antimatter" was either. I personally think that I comprehend it well, but I wonder....

Masuda: Yes. It exists but it actually doesn't. That sort of thing. The mountain exists on the lake through human eyes, but it's only a reflection and doesn't exist. It's a diverse world. You see it only because you are looking at it with your eyes. I'm impressed (with Kawachimaru) for being able to take ingredients that were not substantial and incorporate them into Platinum.

So there you have it. Straight from the producer and director themselves.

Information on Litwick, Lampent, and Chandelure obtained from: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lit..._(Pok%C3%A9mon), http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lam..._(Pok%C3%A9mon), and http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cha..._(Pok%C3%A9mon)

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^ Agreed with everything in Kazyx's post... except for Seadra, sort of. I never really saw Seadra as a part poison type all that much, but I guess it varies from different people's point of views~

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Actually, the Lugia not being Water/Flying is because GF probably didn't want a Legendary to have a 4x weakness to a rather common type.

...but Ho-oh is 4x weak to rock.

The only real thing I'm kinda disappointed in, in terms of typing, is Gyarados. It would be nice if it was dragon and water, as I'm sure everyone else would like the same thing as well.


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    • Reasoning - Due to Surskit being a Bug/Water type, it was only natural that my younger self had thought that Masquerain was a Bug/Water type. I was shocked when I one-shotted it with a Rock move.
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    • Reasoning - Azurill, being a part of the Marill, only made sense to think that it was a Water type. Boy was I ever surprised to find out it was a Normal type!
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    • Reasoning - No idea why, but I thought Mawile was a Dark type. Could be the large mouth and the fact it was only found in caves. *shrugs*
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    • Reasoning1 - Volbeat and Illumise, when I heard they were Fireflies, made me instantly think of Ampharos, who was Electric typed. I was stoked, going "Oh boy, a Bug/Electric type! That sounds cool! NOPE.
    • Reasoning2 - Then when I encountered them, I actually thought they were Bug/Flying types, like almost all bugs with wings are (Once finding out Masquerain was Bug/Flying helped this out). NOPE. GUESS AGAIN.
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    • Reasoning - Trapinch! Wow, was I ever wrong about it! I thought it was a Bug type, that became a Bug/Flying, and then into a Dragon/Flying! I have no idea why I thought that as a kid, but I sure feel pretty silly about it now.
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^And again, I most certainly agree with Kazyx (well done on gathering them, by the way~).
Except for volbeat and illumise; I always saw them as pure bug type at first glance.
Same thing with trapinch, as I instantly assumed it was a ground type, and embarrassingly, for almost 90% of all the time that I've been playing R/S/E in my past years, it never crossed my mind that it evolved into vibrava, and I was so confused on how to get a Flygon until I eventually got bored and started to train a trapinch; it came to an extreme surprise to me when it evolved.

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Oh, yeah. Gen III 'mons had some deceptive typings. I also thought Azurill was a Water type. So I was quite surprised to find out it was Normal type. And (even though I personally never suscribed to the idea) I remember reading a preview of some of the R/S 'mons, and one of the 'mons in the preview was Kecleon, which was theorized to be a Grass type, most likely due to its green coloration and the fact that it was an arboreal lizard. Nope. And same thing with Volbeat. I thought it'd be Bug/Electric too, what with being a firefly and all. Nope.

On Ho-Oh's predicament (x4 Rock weakness): Fire/Flying was an already established typing at the time, with Charizard and Moltres. So, having one Legendary with a x4 weakness, they didn't want the other version exclusive following suit. And the basis for Lugia's design, the ocean kami Ryūjin, has aquatic, avian, and psychic characteristics. (And if you look at the name, draconic characteristics.) The physical design of Lugia wasn't taken from Ryūjin's physical design (who is more like Gyarados or Rayquaza, appearance-wise), but its personality/mythos were. Ryūjin-focused stories tend to be violent or dark in nature. Fortunately, that particular characteristic wasn't carried over to Lugia.

TL;DR: Lugia is based off of an aquatic-dwelling dragon god in Shintoism, which also has some psychic characteristics.

(Information on Lugia obtained from Beckett Pokémon Unofficial Collector issue #125)

This post has been edited by Mars Adept Enten: Jul 7 2012, 12:02 PM


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