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Interfaith Discussion, Where we can discuss our beliefs and the reasons we have for them
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post Dec 28 2016, 05:23 PM
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My family is Catholic but I've only been baptized and had my first communion, so I'm not confirmed. I stopped practicing in the middle of high school, mostly because I don't agree with Catholicism and the Bible 100%. I usually just say I'm agnostic - I kind of believe in a higher power, but I just don't agree with religions.


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post Dec 28 2016, 07:12 PM
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Hello, Serend, nice to see my thread being used!

What I wonder is, how would humans know there is a higher power without religion?



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post Jan 28 2017, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Gryphaena @ Sep 20 2016, 10:15 PM) *
@DJ Majja Kool: May I ask if your religion has a name?

You are the first person I have met with your beliefs.

Sorry for the late reply, I've been away from GPX for a while. I did see this post last month and meant to reply, but I forgot to.

It's more spirituality than religion. On Cerri, religion actually has a different definition which is close to what on Earth would be called a fandom. There are probably people similar beliefs in a broader sense, like a quote I read about how our purpose here is to help people, learn lessons, and then go home. But for the specific planet of Cerri, I only know of two other people who know about it (one of which I haven't met, the other of which taught me about all of this).



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post Mar 29 2017, 06:22 PM
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I have read a few posts in a pagan forum about being able to converse with figures from a fandom, it sounds interesting.

Sometimes I'll have dreams with Pokémon in them and so I wonder.


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post May 5 2017, 01:50 PM
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I know it is the Easter season right now for Christians, and I think I saw a Facebook post saying that Ramadan is approaching, what other celebrations are going on right now?

I'd really like to learn about other people, I guess the best way is to see them face-to-face.


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post May 14 2017, 02:27 AM
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My family is nonreligious, but I secretly believe in Arceus...


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post May 14 2017, 07:57 PM
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Hello Dat Geechy Pie, I don't know if you are being serious or not, but welcome to one of my threads anyway! :]


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post Jul 10 2017, 07:07 PM
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My godparents gave me a compact rosary that can fit on my wrist.

It's pretty and I like it.

I just need to go to a Catholic website to see how to pray the Rosary first.

I think it's be good for me to do.

I don't pray regularly.



What practices do you do, if any?


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post Jul 11 2017, 05:24 PM
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My family is non-religious, though we believe in ghosts and the like. I like learning about other religions every now and again, though I've never really been in one personally.


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post Jul 11 2017, 05:28 PM
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Hello Jazzafrazz, have you ever considered taking a World Religions course?

I found it fascinating and enlightening to try to understand how other people see the world.


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post Oct 29 2017, 02:24 PM
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What do you do in your practice or beliefs when someone dies?

Catholics pray the Rosary over nine days (a Novena) for the deceased.

Would anyone else like to join the conversation?


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post Dec 5 2017, 08:37 PM
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Um... hey
I was raised with Christianity as religion 'cause my mother otherwise wouldn't have been able to marry in church.
My dad's an atheist but was raised with Christian beliefs as well.
Over the years I started noticing that my beliefs and interests strongly conflict those of Christianity.

For example, I'd ask about Darwin in church after being taught about evolution as child.
Plus as I was approaching puberty, I didn't like the thought of my deceased family members watching me take a shower.
So over time I started rejecting such beliefs.
I've tried Buddhism but that isn't 100% my thing either. There's a lot of bits and pieces that I agree with but I am not mentally capable of going all the way with it.

It's not that I deny there's nature stuff going on, a lot of weird stuff happens surrounding me but I don't /want/ to believe it's something like a deity.
I like the idea of forces of nature or even spirits being at work.

When it comes to dead people, well... I know my family does funerals (burying and cremation) but I don't do much other than just moving on with my life.

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post Dec 5 2017, 09:51 PM
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Hello Luneon!

I think there's a thought that science and religion can't work together, but I think their concerns are different in the first place.

As one of my Biology teachers put it, Science answers the question "How does life begin?" and religion answers the question "Why was life begun?"

May I ask why you think it would be better if there were forces of nature or spirits at work instead of a deity?

I just accept that everything is seen and everything is known because for Christians there is no such thing as secrets.



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post Dec 11 2017, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(Gryphaena @ Dec 6 2017, 03:51 AM) *
May I ask why you think it would be better if there were forces of nature or spirits at work instead of a deity?

I just accept that everything is seen and everything is known because for Christians there is no such thing as secrets.

Between humans staring at me while watching my every move, vs the wind or volcanoes doing so, I think I would feel more comfortable having volcanoes or wind watching me the whole day instead.

I cannot live with the idea that I'm constantly being watched. That's pretty much it.


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QUOTE(Luneon @ Dec 11 2017, 09:53 AM) *
Between humans staring at me while watching my every move, vs the wind or volcanoes doing so, I think I would feel more comfortable having volcanoes or wind watching me the whole day instead.

I cannot live with the idea that I'm constantly being watched. That's pretty much it.


Ah, that makes sense.

I suppose surveillance culture in modern areas is not helping matters then.


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post Dec 20 2017, 09:26 PM
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I have a theory about how I came to Earth that seems to line up with my strengths and weaknesses as a person as well as situations I've ended up in while here on Earth.

I think a close friend was in a position of power, and I tried to dethrone that friend. I might have felt that that friend wasn't doing enough to help people who needed it and was too soft when it came to dealing with people who did bad things. I fought this friend (as in actual combat, not a verbal argument), and after the fight I was so ashamed that I agreed to an "exile" here.

Possible mistakes in judgment I made:
-assuming that my friend had more power than they actually did, and either not knowing or not taking into account checks and balances.
-maybe my friend wanted to do more, but couldn't either because of the above or because these things take time and aren't done overnight. Maybe my friend was actually in the process of working on something, but it was still being put together or waiting for approval, and details on that couldn't be shared with the public yet. Maybe my friend was also busy dealing with other issues too at the same time as these.

How this lines up with my weaknesses:
-I'm fiercely protective of those I'm close to, and hyperfocus on how issues would effect them and me without considering or sometimes even caring about other factors like the resources necessary to do something and other consequences something could have.
-I want to do things quickly. I don't want to sacrifice quality for speed, but I don't like leaving something unaddressed for too long.
-My sense of justice goes like this: things that aren't harmful shouldn't be breaking the rules, and at most a correction should be given without them facing any consequences. But with things that ARE harmful, I think instead of escalating consequences, they should just get the boot immediately. For example if someone bullies other students in school, the bully should be expelled immediately instead of having detention and suspension first. That way nobody has to deal with the bully anymore. I'm assuming this view is extreme since no one's ever agreed with me on this.

Sometimes I know I'm wrong without knowing why exactly I'm wrong, and I think that might be the case with the last thing I mentioned there.

For what it's worth, I acknowledge that people likely won't change if they're not given a chance, and kicking them out from the start is erasing that chance. I also forgive immediately if it's clear someone's behavior has improved. But at the same time, I prioritize protection of the innocent over helping the mean people, to the point I have zero compassion or sympathy for the mean people. When people talk about helping them, I acknowledge that that's ideal but from a moral standpoint they're speaking another language because based on what the mean people have done, I don't think they deserve a chance. I don't think they deserve anything nice until they change, which conflicts with the fact that kicking them out greatly reduces the chance they'll change.

I've almost never been in a position before where I stubbornly held onto a belief even though I was proven wrong or it caused cognitive dissonance. I've always been willing to change my mind before, so I've never really empathized with people sticking to their guns even when evidence suggests that they're misinformed. But this could be an exception.

It's possible that my viewpoint was hardened from not enough being done about mean people. I know on Earth I've seen people get away with way more than they should, and wondered when enough would finally be enough. Clearly these people were causing massive headaches for everyone and the environment would be a lot better if they were asked to leave.

Maybe one extreme is not doing enough (the cases I've seen), and maybe I'm on the other extreme.

It's been tearing me apart the past week or so. Earth's existence is one of the biggest mysteries, but I feel like people were sent here to help others and/or receive help. Clearly I need help, and I think my "exile" won't end until I overcome this. Not that I'm saying I'd end my time here right now if I could. I have a few things I'm doing that I'd like to see to completion. But the journey there will be difficult, I think. Do I have to figure all of this out for myself, or is seeking or waiting for help an option? Will it come to me through experiences I'll have in the future, or do I have to think through it on my own?

Maybe someone I know (the one who told me about Cerri) was sent here to help me. We've had discussions about this before.


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