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Does Pornography exploit Women's bodies?, Please be mature in this
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post Apr 24 2009, 02:11 PM
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Never really thought about that; thanks for the enlightenment.
I wouldn't say all porn exploits then, but if they enjoy it then I wouldn't classify it as exploiting I guess.


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post Apr 24 2009, 02:34 PM
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I guess the majority of woman who do porn are poor, but I fail to see how they don't have a choice but to turn to it. Anyone has the ability to get up in the morning and decide to make something of himself. They can choose to do something like sweep up trash or they can do pornography. I will accept that some people may be forced into it, but I don't believe that the majority of actors have absolutely no other alternative for work.

That said, I have seen a few documentaries in my Psych of Women course this semester that have focused on pornography actresses, and though the women interviewed have had some drug issues, the majority of them love what they do and enjoy it. Interestingly, they did have complaints about some types of jobs that they had which they described as sort of exploitative, in the fact that they were totally objectified and there was no real way for them to enjoy the act. Those were blow job and cum shot videos.

I don't particularly think of pornography as exploiting women. I do think that they tend to drive home social stereotypes of the assumed substandard role of a woman to a man (the woman is there to please and to do what the man wants to make him happy). I really think it depends on the porn. It's fairly clear early on how deeply a film is going to stereotype the women involved.

I do watch porn and even enjoy some of the ones that stereotype women and seem to 'exploit' them, but I'm aware of these facts in the back of my mind as I do so.

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post May 5 2009, 02:41 AM
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No. It's their choice.

Also, men do it too; when people say it exploit's women and not men as well, although I disagree with their stance anyway, I just see them as sexist. Not only sexist towards men, but women, who they must think of as the weaker sex to be the only one being exploited despite both sexes doing the same exact thing. Women can use men for sex, men can use women for sex, believe it or not my wonderful misandrists/misogynists.

Not to mention those idiotic people who think men must enjoy and choose to do porn, and women can never enjoy or choose to do porn.

And women also watch porn, you know. Just a head's up.

Simple answer for me: It does not exploit men or women who have chosen to take part. And even though most people seem to think because they would never do it, no one else would, they do - and they enjoy it. That's life; some people enjoy their job, some people don't. But it's up to the individual whether they decide to exploit anyone, man or woman.

If anything, you can blame those in the sex industry being depressed on society's tendency to discriminate against them and view sex as a sin, not exploitation of sex, which is pretty much the opposite. If it wasn't so "wrong" to do something as natural as have sex, it wouldn't be considered a "lowly" job by most people and they would have no reason to feel inferior for doing it.

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post May 5 2009, 03:05 AM
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Porn isnt really exploiting anyone. Women who sign up for it, know they're going to show their bodies off, and possibly even get fucked on camera. It's mostly voluntary.

The only time it's exploiting is when the woman doesnt give permission to be filmed. then it's wrong.


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post May 11 2009, 07:23 PM
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I don't believe Porn exploits women's bodies as we've already covered that they do it by choice. They sign contracts, they get paid and they perform in these types of movies. They weren't forced to strip down and have sex in a variety of provocative and sometimes disgusting manners; they chose to do so.

However, if we were to discuss the impact that porn has on women in the real world then that would be a different matter. It has been proven in a study in the UK that men and teenage boys both have very inaccurate ideas of how sex and the female body really is due to the influences of porn in their lifes. Similarly a lot of 'real' women (aka those not in porn) feel under heavy pressure to fit in with the plastic/porn ideal women due to the comments and naivity of men/teenage boys as they grow up.

That is a different topic entirely though and I won't digress in the middle of this discussion.

Overall - porn doesn't exploit a woman's body it can just impact on the view of what a natural woman looks like.


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post May 13 2009, 09:01 AM
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It depends what type of porn to be honest the dvd ones ive seen tend to have more of the women than parts of the men.

Online though i have seen everything and think both male and female parts are out there as much as each other.

The women do want to be known for there bits like the size of boobs and everything and its there choice to show them off. We know not all women are like that so it doesnt bother me one bit.




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post May 20 2009, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(eagleblackbelt @ Apr 12 2009, 08:02 PM) *
Hey, I'm just going off the Catholic church's teaching on this topic. I believe that it is a disgusting thing that violates the sixth commandment.

The worst part about porn is the level people take it to. I mean, look at all the amount of this stuff on the net. Plus, people take it to the aspect of child porn, and that is completely DISGUSTING AND WRONG!


Sadly a majority of what the Catholic Church says is biased and sometimes wrong.

The whole "Porn forms an unrealistic expectation of women" is completely false. Not all guys who watch 36DD girls strip and do other things want to date/screw every 36DD girl in existence. Just because it shows women (and men) getting naked and sometimes performing sexual acts for the sexual pleasure of those who view it doesn't always mean that these porn actors suddenly become the people the porn viewers want to meet and fuck. Last I checked, the girl I like isn't 36DD and has perfect curves. And the guy I like isn't a perfect twink and measures up very...endowed.


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post Jun 5 2009, 05:14 PM
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It's just silly to assume that porn starts are depressed or feel exploited. In fact most of the interviews I've seen of porn stars (Howard Stern show, hells yes), most of them are outgoing, easily likable and very intelligent.

They're pornstars instead of teachers for a few reasons: One, they have the body for it, Two, many of them are exhibitionists, Three, they love having sex, Four, the money is pretty good, and Five, some of them enjoy the fame/infamy.

So wait - it's JUST A JOB?! It is. Just a job. By fapping to a pornstar you're not exploiting her any more than buying stamps from the post office worker.

She's there (willingly, and knowingly) to create a sexy situation for someone to be aroused by. There's nothing more to it than that.

Now I'm not talking about sex-trade and prostitution ( or certain types of amateur porn where the girl may not know she's being filmed). Those are matters that easily slide into exploitation because the woman has no choice in what she's doing. But in legit porn, what the pornstar wants, she gets, and if she ever gets uncomfortable, she can put her foot down easily - most directors are very willing to make situations comfortable.



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post Jun 5 2009, 05:19 PM
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It's exploitation only when the participant doesn't understand in what she's participating, or doesn't receive any of the profits. So I'd say Playboy, Maxim, and other such establishments are fine because the women are sober when they make the agreement and are in this as a career, but Girls Gone Wild is exploitation.


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I personally don't think that pornography, or nudity in general is blatant exploitation of the female body. We have the same rights and choices men can make, and if we want to spread our legs for photography or film, then we choose to do so.

I personally have no problem with seeing it. Tasteful nudity can be found in porn, and it's considered an artform to many.


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post Jun 6 2009, 07:19 AM
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when you say exploit you are in one way saying "showing off" in which i say yes it is.


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QUOTE(PeachyMomo @ May 5 2009, 02:41 AM) *
No. It's their choice.

Also, men do it too; when people say it exploit's women and not men as well, although I disagree with their stance anyway, I just see them as sexist. Not only sexist towards men, but women, who they must think of as the weaker sex to be the only one being exploited despite both sexes doing the same exact thing. Women can use men for sex, men can use women for sex, believe it or not my wonderful misandrists/misogynists.


Playing devil's advocate here. People who specifically say it exploits women are probably looking at society as a whole when they say that. There are a lot of double standards between men and women. A man who sleeps around is a ladies man; a woman who sleeps around is a slut. You know the drill. (And no, I am not saying I believe that in any way, I'm saying that that is society's general attitude.) Most porn does not focus on the male anyway. I know that there's different types of porn out there that focus on different people/scenarios, I'm just basing this on most mainstream porn.

So yeah, although both sexes are doing "the exact same thing", there is still a double standard that exists in society. Someone who says that it exploits women and not men are not necessarily saying that women are weaker -- they are examining society's attitudes and implications, and the effects that this has on society too. I hope this makes sense.

Again though, I'm playing devil's advocate. I agree Emphyria's entire post.
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Simply put, no. They knew what they were doing. :\


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It depends on the situation that lead to said pornography being produced.

If you mean professional porn such as Hustler, Playboy or Movies.. then no, absolutely not.

If anything it's empowering. Women get paid to do what they want with their bodies, as it should be. Their bodies, their choice.

However, if it's something like drunken college girls being taken advantage of.. then yeah, it's exploitation lol.


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Actual porn stars who get paid for what they do? No, it doesn't exploit them. For them, it's a job. Much like any job, if they feel uncomfortable with it, they can leave. No one's stopping them.

Barely legal teenagers who are so drunk they don't even know what's going on? Yes, because they didn't choose to do it, and will probably be embarrassed to an unimaginable degree when they find out what happened.
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not as much as modern day commercials


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Of Course Pornography Exploits Women
Even If You Choose To Be A Part Of It You are Still Exploiting Yourself
It Did Say In The Bible (Currently Looking Up Verse[If You Are Not Christian Please Ignore/Excuse Me]) As To Keep The Body Sacred, Do Not Show Your Naked Self To Anyone But Your Spouse (A.K.A Husband or Wife)

Imo Pornography Is Wrong, Horrid, Exploiting, For People Without A Significant Other,For People Without A Life, And Much More


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I don't think that the pornography exploit women's body. After all, they sign a contract and are payed (sometimes very well) for it.
Sex has always been a commercial things, they just have found a better way for making money than prostitution. They are not worth than other actors. But porno actress or actors shouldn't be judge for what they do in their film but for what they are in the real life.

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it depends on the reason. when many people are in need of money, they might turn to selling off their bodies for a little extra cash. in most cases, this is degrading and humiliating for the people who are forced to do it. others are forced into it by blackmail, but these cases are few. yet, some people will gladly show off their bodies, striking poses and allowing any viewer to become intimate with their person. many people think the human body is beautiful, a work of art, and they wish to share this thought with the world. while pornography does exploit some women, others use it as a way to express themselves, to give themselves a voice in a world where they would otherwise be ignored. whether it truly is or isn't exploitation is not for me or any one else to decide, but rather for the person who is posing for the camera or waiting to be painted in the studio.


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