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Summon timeline no longer says summoned by
Tyranisaur
post Jun 5 2017, 10:30 AM
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I had a Korechu egg in my party, and a figured I could do some summons, since I didn't have 3 novelty/legend eggs in my party. So I go and use a red orb and start looking for my summon. I then find an egg summoned by someone else, which I pick up. Then, I found an egg of the species I summoned. Observant as I am, I look at the egg timeline, to check whether the timeline says if the egg was summoned by me or another player. What I see is this:


I have done my fair share of summons, and what I would usually see is a line that says that says "Summoned by [my name]" in the part where it says "Egg summoned. Since I didn't see this, I assumed that the egg was not summoned by me. Now, because I had a Korechu egg and two summons in my party, to find another summon, I had to get one of those eggs out of my party due to the party limit. None of the eggs were more than an hour old, so I couldn't place any in the mobile walker, so I had to release one. I released the Korechu egg.

Eventually, I figure that I should actually check my stats to double check whether that egg was summoned by me mor not. To my surprise, I find that not only do my stats add up to the point where they check out, which means I don't have any summons that aren't claimed. I also check my other summons, and see that they don't have that line about me being the summoner either.

So this is a change that has happened without me being told about it.

Of course in this case, I would have been able to put two and two together if I actually looked at the times on that timeline, but I have been conditioned to not have to do that. Also that would not have worked if it took me longer to find the egg than the time I had exclusivity on finding the summon.


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post Jun 5 2017, 12:05 PM
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Perhaps this is an unintended side effect of the timeline update at the bottom of this post?


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post Jun 5 2017, 01:57 PM
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Similar to this, eggs that are picked up by the breeder no longer show "Egg bred by -username-".


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post Jun 5 2017, 09:19 PM
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When I was cleaning up the timeline, I decided it was a bit of a waste of space and redundant to say "by [user]" if [user] is the current owner.

If you picked up someone else's summon, it would say it was summoned by them. Since it doesn't say who summoned it specifically, it means you did.

Similarly, if you take an egg from your daycare, it won't say you bred it, it'll simply be implied. However, if you then release that Pokémon, and someone else picks it up, the "by [your name]" would then show up so people know.

I'm open to your feedback on whether I should reverse this.


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post Jun 5 2017, 10:09 PM
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Ok, I was just worried that it was unintentional and once you'd release the self bred Pokemon the timeline would have stayed blank. Otherwise that clean up seems fine to me.
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Though for summonables, isn't there the chance of picking up a summon that the lab summoned it's self? It's uncommon, but it'll be hard to tell whether it's a self summon or the lab's, as they'll have the same timeline text. I don't check my stats before and after summoning, and relied on the "summoned by" to tell me if it's my own or if I accidentally picked up one the lab spawned.


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post Jun 5 2017, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(NefariousKing @ Jun 5 2017, 10:09 PM) *
Ok, I was just worried that it was unintentional and once you'd release the self bred Pokemon the timeline would have stayed blank. Otherwise that clean up seems fine to me.
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Though for summonables, isn't there the chance of picking up a summon that the lab summoned it's self?


It would say "Egg laid" as it wasn't a summon, it was just a regular lab generation similar to a Common egg being laid.


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post Jun 5 2017, 10:25 PM
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Ohh ok. I would sometimes pick up eggs that never specify where they came from, just "egg summoned", so I just assumed it was the lab. I'm guessing they were eggs summoned by others? As I'd find my own summoned right after.
Thanks for clearing that up.


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post Jun 6 2017, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(Zerxer @ Jun 6 2017, 04:19 AM) *
If you picked up someone else's summon, it would say it was summoned by them. Since it doesn't say who summoned it specifically, it means you did.

Uhhh, like this one?

I didn't summon that one.


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post Jun 6 2017, 08:55 AM
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Personally, I think a 'by you' would be shorter and just as explicit.

Actually, when I saw this at first I thought it was changed to match the mobile site - which just says summoned by you, or by 'someone else'.


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post Jun 6 2017, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Tyranisaur @ Jun 6 2017, 07:11 AM) *
QUOTE(Zerxer @ Jun 6 2017, 04:19 AM) *
If you picked up someone else's summon, it would say it was summoned by them. Since it doesn't say who summoned it specifically, it means you did.

Uhhh, like this one?

I didn't summon that one.

Fixed. While I removed the "by [owner]" text for all entries, I forgot "Egg summoned" always lacked a "by" for other people's summons, making them look the same. I added "by someone else" for that case.

QUOTE(Cycloneblaze @ Jun 6 2017, 08:55 AM) *
Personally, I think a 'by you' would be shorter and just as explicit.

Actually, when I saw this at first I thought it was changed to match the mobile site - which just says summoned by you, or by 'someone else'.

"by you" wouldn't make sense for other users viewing the timeline. "by owner" could work but it's just a lot of extra needless text. I added "by someone else" for the egg summoning, since everything other than summoning would display previous owners' names still.


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post Jun 6 2017, 10:47 PM
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I'm wondering. Is it possible for someone to summon an egg, not pick it up, have someone else pick it up, possibly hatch it, then release it and then have the original summoner pick it up? And if so, what would it say in the timeline about who summoned it?


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post Jun 7 2017, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(Zerxer @ Jun 7 2017, 04:26 AM) *
QUOTE(Cycloneblaze @ Jun 6 2017, 08:55 AM) *
Personally, I think a 'by you' would be shorter and just as explicit.

Actually, when I saw this at first I thought it was changed to match the mobile site - which just says summoned by you, or by 'someone else'.

"by you" wouldn't make sense for other users viewing the timeline. "by owner" could work but it's just a lot of extra needless text. I added "by someone else" for the egg summoning, since everything other than summoning would display previous owners' names still.

Hm, I guess this is why you're fixing these things and not me. tongue.gif I'm sure I'll get used to it this way yet.


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post Jun 10 2017, 04:43 AM
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Maybe you could simply put something like "summoned by [the actual guy who summoned it]" ? It works like that for eggs that are bred, so....


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post Jun 11 2017, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(DrSnap @ Jun 10 2017, 05:43 AM) *
Maybe you could simply put something like "summoned by [the actual guy who summoned it]" ? It works like that for eggs that are bred, so....

We intentionally went against doing this when summoning was added because it just opens up too much potential for harassment.


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