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Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 25 2012, 11:16 PM

America, what is it, and what do it do? Nobody really knows, but we can do a lot better. This is where you can bash the not-so United States of America about what we're doing wrong and (hopefully) provide some suggestions for improvement. Allow me to start off by talking about the right-wing extremists. This is what they need to do:
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:/ Your move.

Posted by: DesireXeno Feb 26 2012, 08:20 AM

I would probably say racism towards blacks from other countries. Or so I heard, not from USA but to be quite honest, if the USA isn't racist towards the blacks or whatnot, I wouldn't heard this kind of thing. No offense, but this is my two-cents.

Posted by: Dazmi Feb 26 2012, 09:27 AM

What`s wrong with America is that it`s not Canada. lol.

Posted by: Narcissistic Cryosphere Feb 26 2012, 10:10 AM

QUOTE(DesireXeno @ Feb 26 2012, 07:20 AM) *
I would probably say racism towards blacks from other countries. Or so I heard, not from USA but to be quite honest, if the USA isn't racist towards the blacks or whatnot, I wouldn't heard this kind of thing. No offense, but this is my two-cents.

You can't base a country off of hearsay. :/ Every country has racist people, tbh. Stereotyping doesn't exactly give a lot to discuss, and it would actually offend some Americans who aren't racist(myself included). I can say for certain America is no more racist than any other country, thanks.

Posted by: Toogee Feb 26 2012, 10:44 AM

QUOTE(Mr Nerd @ Feb 25 2012, 10:16 PM) *
Allow me to start off by talking about the right-wing extremists. Nothing to do about them but get rid of them, which isn't happening soon, and lots more will come. :/ Your move.

You have a good reason to "get rid of" an entire group of people who have a different opinion than you? It's OK to disagree, that's why Freedom of Speech is awesome. But to call for someone's removal simply because you disagree with them is...extremist.

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What`s wrong with America is that it`s not Canada. lol.


I'd say that it is becoming more like Canada...and that's what's wrong with America :P.

Oh well, haters gonna hate.

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Feb 26 2012, 02:47 PM

QUOTE(DesireXeno @ Feb 26 2012, 08:20 AM) *
I would probably say racism towards blacks from other countries. Or so I heard, not from USA but to be quite honest, if the USA isn't racist towards the blacks or whatnot, I wouldn't heard this kind of thing. No offense, but this is my two-cents.
There's a lot of racists and non-racists. My area has almost no racism in it, but the area I used to live in does.

QUOTE(Toogee @ Feb 26 2012, 10:44 AM) *
QUOTE(Mr Nerd @ Feb 25 2012, 10:16 PM) *
Allow me to start off by talking about the right-wing extremists. Nothing to do about them but get rid of them, which isn't happening soon, and lots more will come. :/ Your move.

You have a good reason to "get rid of" an entire group of people who have a different opinion than you? It's OK to disagree, that's why Freedom of Speech is awesome. But to call for someone's removal simply because you disagree with them is...extremist.
I don't want their removal, I want them to shut the fuck up because they're the ones screwing up this country.

Also, private healthcare and democracy.

Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 26 2012, 09:33 PM

QUOTE(Dazmi @ Feb 26 2012, 09:27 AM) *
What`s wrong with America is that it`s not Canada. lol.


Trollolololol, but the shape of Maine hasn't been consistent. Its north border has been moving all around, from almost splitting Canada into two parts, almost level with New Hampshire and Vermont's north border, and everywhere in between. Speaking of state shapes, the day after Pearl Harbor *salutes* the shapes of California and Oregon would have changed by the not-existent-on-any-map state of Jefferson. It would have taken land from northern California and southern Oregon, but instead of becoming the 49th state, the US declared war on Japan. It's a good thing that they make such good technology, otherwise we might still hold a grudge. This is kinda akward because I'm an American typing this on a Japanese product o_O2.gif Also, Raven (you stalker[no JK it's just a coincidence]) that's kinda what I meant when I typed it. (Ya can't think at midnight, huh?) I'll go change that.

Posted by: Mister Blah Feb 26 2012, 09:57 PM

Freedom for all the people; brave, true, and strong!
Freedom for all the people, unless I think you're wrong!

Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 26 2012, 10:28 PM

Now that's just dictatorial.

Posted by: Mister Blah Feb 26 2012, 11:27 PM

Well hey man according to them government folks gay marriage is wrong and we are kind of missing that in most of America.

Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 27 2012, 04:26 PM

Those are just the stupid ones. They are afraid, and fear is fuelling their hatred towards gays. But guess what? Not everyone in the USA thinks alike. if they did, there would be none of this anti-gay bullshit. I, for one am a gay rights advocate. Is that enough for you?


(P.S. Ever heard of Occupy? Enlighten yourself. You'd also be surprised by my age.)

Posted by: Jo Calderone Feb 27 2012, 04:49 PM

What?

Seriously, what's wrong with America? Lets first say whats wrong with every other country in this worlds, cause I think they more-or-less have the same issues. People only see America tho, and not the rest of the world. Im not an American citizen or anything, which is exactly why I think people should stop being so focused on the America like it's the center of all problems and the center of the world. Sure, it is one of the strongest forces on this planet, but actually focusing so much on it makes it be one. And that is a problem, problem of the world. There's so much alternative exits and solutions but people only see The United States.
No offense to any Americans, because I know lovely people who leave there, just letting out a common prejudice and stereotypes about America, other than the bad ones.




what am i saying idek

Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 27 2012, 10:22 PM

You should try watching Countdown with Keith Olbermann (spelling of last name has to be off) Enlighten yourself. Also, I'd like to talk about some big current issues.

1)Syria: The issue is brought up, and Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum basically say "LET'S BOMB IRAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

2)NYPD outside of NYC: What do we have the FBI for? And just because the people that they are monitoring are Muslims? Wow...

3) Women's birth rights: GEEZ!!!!!!!! Get an all-female panel to talk about it, not all guys!

4)(not really an issue) The 2012 Republican nomination race: There were only plans A, B, and C. A and B failed. C is 2016. I think that's enough to get an idea.

Posted by: BarkingChaos Feb 28 2012, 10:23 AM

Do you even live in America?

Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 28 2012, 04:14 PM

Yes, and I'm 11. Surprised?

Posted by: BarkingChaos Feb 28 2012, 05:18 PM

QUOTE(Mr Nerd @ Feb 28 2012, 04:14 PM) *
Yes, and I'm 11. Surprised?


No, because that explains the huge font and cap lock. I agree with Cryosphere

Anyway, if you hate America so much then move to a different country when you are old enough. Problem solved awesome.gif

Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 28 2012, 10:11 PM

It's not that I hate my country, I just like to point out what's been done wrong. The reason why there isn't really a clear point is because I have ideas, but if I speak up about it, nobody IRL would care. They'd just laugh and go home. If you could just see into my thoughts...

Posted by: BarkingChaos Feb 28 2012, 10:42 PM

Its just the way you are expressing your opinions. Your second post is pretty well thought out. That first post was just the wrong way to start the thread :/

Perhaps you could do research about what you want to say and maybe use what those people have to say to at least formulate your thoughts. Also, providing facts is a good way to support your argument.

Posted by: Mr Nerd Feb 28 2012, 11:23 PM

I'm not ready for this. Somebody take over. *goes to Planet Shvitz*

Posted by: Mr Nerd Mar 1 2012, 08:11 AM

Apparently, this has become a random crap topic. Great...

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Mar 1 2012, 08:43 PM

moving all this "iq/age" shit to a new thread, cause IQ can make a new thread by itself. Until then, back to America.

This thread shouldn't be in the ranting zone anyway.

Posted by: Mister Blah Mar 2 2012, 01:43 AM

QUOTE(Jo Calderone @ Feb 27 2012, 04:49 PM) *
What?

Seriously, what's wrong with America? Lets first say whats wrong with every other country in this worlds, cause I think they more-or-less have the same issues. People only see America tho, and not the rest of the world. Im not an American citizen or anything, which is exactly why I think people should stop being so focused on the America like it's the center of all problems and the center of the world. Sure, it is one of the strongest forces on this planet, but actually focusing so much on it makes it be one. And that is a problem, problem of the world. There's so much alternative exits and solutions but people only see The United States.
No offense to any Americans, because I know lovely people who leave there, just letting out a common prejudice and stereotypes about America, other than the bad ones.


America essentially manages to get into every world problem nowadays, and it's really a bother. Our economy is getting mess up, the whole world gets brought down some too due to our market. America is the most influential nation in the world today. Not saying I support everything the country does, not by a long shot, no.


QUOTE(Mr Nerd @ Feb 27 2012, 10:22 PM) *
1)Syria: The issue is brought up, and Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum basically say "LET'S BOMB IRAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Well UN wouldn't stop us, I'd imagine.

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2)NYPD outside of NYC: What do we have the FBI for? And just because the people that they are monitoring are Muslims? Wow...


A pretty ridiculous statement to make, especially by police. (If I'm understanding this correctly). But I'm pretty sure our government will be prejudiced against Muslims for years to come.

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3) Women's birth rights: GEEZ!!!!!!!! Get an all-female panel to talk about it, not all guys!


BUT WIMMENS TAKING IMPORTANT ROLES? THAT WON'T DO IN AN EXTREME RIGHT-WING AMERICA.

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4)(not really an issue) The 2012 Republican nomination race: There were only plans A, B, and C. A and B failed. C is 2016. I think that's enough to get an idea.


Not quite sure what you're trying to say here, but all of the possible candidates for the next president look pretty bad. If I were able to vote this year I'd probably vote for Vermin Supreme just for fun, since we're screwed either way.

Posted by: Black Ice Mar 5 2012, 12:45 AM

One of America's problems is that half the people don't realize that this isn't a theocracy; that there is nothing inherently good about traditionalism; that anti-intellectualism is not beneficial. Most of the social problems that I can think of directly relate to at least one of those three, although they're really all the same.

Posted by: The Hunger Games Apr 1 2012, 12:48 PM

Well if you look at it, He's got a point. As a American we have flaws. These flaws can be fixed, I'm not saying we are perfect but look at other countries. Most countries barely have freedom,homes,food on the table,and getting a education.

Posted by: Wings of Sorrow Apr 1 2012, 09:27 PM

I'm from the Philippines, and I don't know much about the problems of the USA. So, I'm, sorry if I'm wrong or I don't make sense. XD

They should stop giving the corpulent people those damned mobile cart thingies. I mean, jeez, give them some exercise. dry.gif

What the hell is with their homophobia? You call it a free country and these guys don't get their freedom of marriage?

Fuck its society. I've heard they've got loads of sluts and spoiled brats like these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90HhZ-pyC2Y Possibly, other countries have these kinds of brats as well. However, I've heard most of these brats dwell in America.

Also, I've heard only about 55 percent of Americans know that the sun is a star. I have no idea how to solve that. XD

I think what it needs is this movie, or the real thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul4CZrnEFxU

Posted by: NiteFrites Apr 11 2012, 09:08 AM

America needs to pick better presidents that don't use up all of our money! And we pick very s***** presidents. No offense to Barack Obama, but please! You really think people pick you because they thought you were going to be a great president? Nope!Think again! They only chose you because you would be the first black president in history.!Well, at least history happened, right worried.gif ! I also think that they need to take the 2-year pay raise freeze off!Don't they see that our country is suffering greatly? Well, America NEEDS to shut the FRONT DOOR!

Plus, I'm tired of seeing my mom sad because of the freeze crying.gif

Posted by: zerohundred Aug 24 2012, 12:49 AM

QUOTE(The Hunger Games @ Apr 1 2012, 10:48 AM) *
Most countries barely have freedom,homes,food on the table,and getting a education.

-_-2.gif do you think us americans are getting an education? we are nearly the lowest country ranked for education
V that

QUOTE(Wings of Sorrow @ Apr 1 2012, 07:27 PM) *
Also, I've heard only about 55 percent of Americans know that the sun is a star. I have no idea how to solve that. XD

^it's stuff like that why i feel embarrased to be an american...


QUOTE(NiteFrites @ Apr 11 2012, 07:08 AM) *
America needs to pick better presidents that don't use up all of our money! And we pick very s***** presidents.

PREECH, MY BROTHER!
but yes, this is exactly what can fix alot of america's problems!
There should be no politicians, because all politicians do this for is for the money, and they only have the position for so much time, so they are reduced to corruption just for a quick buck, and they also do it for power, but they loose all of their power after so long, and really don't realize that if they're really great, they still have power after their term is over. I guarentee that if John F. Kenedy was still alive, there would be millions of people who would support him for almost any cause, even after he was president.
They should elect actual people as president or senators or congres etc etc etc..... because theese politicians aren't working to better america at all, i personally don't beleive that they're worthy of power at all. nothing personal, but i just think that people should be able to run for president without needing millions of dollars to advertise themselves. We need people who will actually do their job and focus ONLY on running our contry, and not only set up 90% of their speeches just for votes..

Posted by: DaemonicFae Aug 24 2012, 07:21 PM

Our education is shit, basically babysitting combined with brainwashing, and I think this is the root of a lot of problems. The number of people who seriously don't know how pregnancy, STDs, mental illness, physical illness, or human anatomy in general works at all is fucking scary. We're ranked the lowest, of developed countries, in a lot of things. The sad part is that it's pretty much completely preventable, and people are buttmad about the solutions because it involves helping people and not letting rich people do whatever they want at everyone else's expense.

The conservative party has become a joke, and everyone in it just needs to stop. Sit down, shut up, pick up a book or something, and deal with the fact that the world will not and can not function properly exactly the way they (or anyone, really) wants it.

I love this country, but the direction it's going is just... No.

Posted by: Lord Raven Aug 24 2012, 11:31 PM

Some places are advancing in terms of education, some places either are regressing or stay in their own little world. For a bunch of things, it's difficult to say it applies to every part of this country.

Posted by: DaemonicFae Aug 25 2012, 03:29 PM

QUOTE(Lord Raven @ Aug 25 2012, 12:31 AM) *
Some places are advancing in terms of education, some places either are regressing or stay in their own little world. For a bunch of things, it's difficult to say it applies to every part of this country.


It really applies to a lot of it, especially comparing it to other first world countries.

Posted by: Lord Raven Aug 26 2012, 02:24 AM

I don't think America's regressing in the sense that you're thinking of it. I think America's just stuck in an infinite loop and lacks progression because people are so damn resistant to it. There is progression, but it's relatively slow.

Besides, private schools are more brainwashing than public schools if anything. Public schools from my experience isn't much brainwashing, either that or I go to school in a very good area. Most of my graduating class, at least 90-95%, went onto further education of some sort. Anywhere from community college to university (nothing wrong with community college). America is far better off than people think, just some media sensationalizing and stuff that sorta blows.

Adding to that, school is really fucking expensive these days. It's hard to be progressive when most people can't afford it. There's only so much scholarship money to go around, and there's only so much merit you can have before luck begins to take over. Capitalism is luck based and Americans are too stuck in that mindset for any progression to occur. So any sort of regression you're seeing isn't regression so much as very slow progression.

Posted by: Zer0hundred Oct 10 2013, 09:48 PM

QUOTE(Lord Raven @ Aug 26 2012, 12:24 AM) *
So any sort of regression you're seeing isn't regression so much as very slow progression.

You make a good point, but what about the $16 trillion that we are in debt? Or the $1billion more debt we get daily? Or the partial shutdown because of ONE healthcare bill? I wouldn't exactly call that progression.

Whatever happened to negotiation? That's what the multiparty system was supposed to call for. They're supposed to reach a comprimise, not a friggen standstill. Both parties are too damn obstinate and narrow-minded to be able to see the other side of things, and the whole country is hurting from it.
Whatever happened to leaders who thought only of the good of the people? Now all they think about is themselves and getting those votes.
Honestly, our country is screwed up because of us as a nation. There's not a damn that the individual can do to fix it, either. If we were to truly want to fix it, we'd come together as a nation to fix our problems. However, most people who do try to fix this country can't comprimise, and that's what's going wrong. Our own government can't reach a middle path solution, so now we as a nation must suffer, because of the, dare I say arrogent, views of congres and the president.

Posted by: Infestissumam Oct 10 2013, 09:56 PM

QUOTE(Zer0hundred @ Oct 10 2013, 10:48 PM) *
QUOTE(Lord Raven @ Aug 26 2012, 12:24 AM) *
So any sort of regression you're seeing isn't regression so much as very slow progression.

You make a good point, but what about the $16 trillion that we are in debt? Or the $1billion more debt we get daily? Or the partial shutdown because of ONE healthcare bill? I wouldn't exactly call that progression.

Whatever happened to negotiation? That's what the multiparty system was supposed to call for. They're supposed to reach a comprimise, not a friggen standstill.

The problem is that people are more Republican or Democrat than they are American.

George Washington did not want political parties for this very reason, I believe.

Posted by: Lord Raven Oct 14 2013, 01:47 AM

I'd love a multiparty system. But it's a bipartisan system where everything is dichotomous.

My point had a lot to do with social progression, definitely not economical.

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