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post Aug 5 2007, 07:17 PM
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Even with weekly updates on SSBB we can't forget this game. I'm not really a pro player or anything but I do attend tournaments and such. I am a Fox/Marth/Samus/Dr.Mario user


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post Aug 5 2007, 09:21 PM
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Ew, Dr. Mario. Clone *hss*

I hate tier lists, fer realz. They constantly change and they basically tell people who they should and shouldn't use. I say to hell with it, use who you're comfortable with *totally uses Roy* *hypocrite* I dunno, Marth is just, you know, too fast XD *falls off ledges too much with him* Oh, and Falco. Best clone in the game *nod*


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post Aug 5 2007, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(The Magical Talking Cookie @ Aug 5 2007, 09:21 PM) *
Ew, Dr. Mario. Clone *hss*

I hate tier lists, fer realz. They constantly change and they basically tell people who they should and shouldn't use. I say to hell with it, use who you're comfortable with *totally uses Roy* *hypocrite* I dunno, Marth is just, you know, too fast XD *falls off ledges too much with him* Oh, and Falco. Best clone in the game *nod*


Roy is good if you can use him. *hypocrite* I don't like Tier Lists, I like what you say. UsewhoeveryouwantandfeelsmostcomforotbleFTW


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post Aug 6 2007, 12:26 AM
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Well SSBM is played competitively and so obviously tier lists are made. Just like with Pokemon, though, almost any character can be good if you make it that way.

I don't play competitively but I do enjoy the game when playing with friends and such. I use Marth, Shiek and lately Ive been finding myself using Link.


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post Aug 6 2007, 09:16 AM
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See, I like that logic, but if you talk to any competitive player he'll tell you that you're an idiot for saying that you can make any character good. They for real have this idea stuck in their head that only the characters that they say are good are actually, you know, good XD

Anywayz, has a new tier list come out since *thinks* May, I think? I believe that's the last time I saw one...I just wanna see how ridiculous it is this time XD


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post Aug 6 2007, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(The Magical Talking Cookie @ Aug 6 2007, 09:16 AM) *
See, I like that logic, but if you talk to any competitive player he'll tell you that you're an idiot for saying that you can make any character good. They for real have this idea stuck in their head that only the characters that they say are good are actually, you know, good XD

Anywayz, has a new tier list come out since *thinks* May, I think? I believe that's the last time I saw one...I just wanna see how ridiculous it is this time XD


No it's still the same. It stands as the following;

Top Tier
Fox
Falco

High Tier
Sheik
Marth
Peach

Middle Tier
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Samus
Doctor Mario
Jigglypuff
Mario
Ganondorf

Low Tier
Link
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu

Bottom Tier
Yoshi
Zelda
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Bowser
Kirby
Pichu
Mewtwo


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post Aug 6 2007, 12:50 PM
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I'm for real in awe that Shiek isn't on top since he's apparently a god. And Zelda's got some wicked strong smash attacks, so I've never understood why she wasn't at least mid to high tier. Competitive players are for real beyond my comprehension.


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post Aug 6 2007, 03:55 PM
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I just played this game for fun over at my old friend's house a lot. I think I used Shiek a lot and that other hidden character.. the last unlockable one I think. The shadow thing. noes.gif I have no clue anymore


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post Aug 6 2007, 04:00 PM
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Mr. Game and Watch?

And I agree with Cookie; Sheik should be in a higher tier. Especially since Sheik is h4x. Chain ftw.
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post Aug 6 2007, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(BLC @ Aug 6 2007, 05:00 PM) *
Mr. Game and Watch?

Yes, he was fun. Throwing bacon out of a frying pan (at least that's what I thought it was).


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post Aug 6 2007, 04:26 PM
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post Aug 6 2007, 04:42 PM
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I actually was hinting at the fact that competitive Melee players fanboy over Shiek for real. I've never seen such a huge fan base in my life (save maybe Karel. Ovarrated bastard), ohmigawd.


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post Aug 7 2007, 11:12 AM
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I love playing SSBM. It's fun playing as Luigi and blasting yourself off screen because you got the super green missle, causing you to get killed XD


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post Aug 7 2007, 12:38 PM
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I think it's impossible for me to play as Luigi, Pikachu, or Pichu without suiciding, like, ten times XD It's such a powerful move, but if the opponent jumps you're screwed XD

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post Aug 8 2007, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(The Magical Talking Cookie @ Aug 7 2007, 12:38 PM) *
I think it's impossible for me to play as Luigi, Pikachu, or Pichu without suiciding, like, ten times XD It's such a powerful move, but if the opponent jumps you're screwed XD


Yeah XD Espically at Kongo Kongo Jungle or any of the other DK stages.

About the whole Shiek thing;

Shiek is a good fast character, good for chaining and such. I prefer Fox more though. One time at a tournament, I had a Shiek user charge me for a Chain Grab so I waited. When he got close enough, BAM, reflector'd then I chain grabbed him till he died.


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post Aug 8 2007, 09:36 AM
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I'm not denying that he/she is a good character (I hate how people are always so picky about Shiek's gender. Male persona, female character; I call him male >_>), I'm just saying that I think he's a bit overrated. If you practice hard enough, you can make anyone, even Pichu, work for you, but people don't see that. All they see is the amazing fast speed and good combos. Not every character is going to have the same advantages, so why even try to compare? They're all kinds of different sizes and shapes, so it's just not possible for some of them.


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post Aug 8 2007, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(The Magical Talking Cookie @ Aug 8 2007, 09:36 AM) *
I'm not denying that he/she is a good character (I hate how people are always so picky about Shiek's gender. Male persona, female character; I call him male >_>), I'm just saying that I think he's a bit overrated. If you practice hard enough, you can make anyone, even Pichu, work for you, but people don't see that. All they see is the amazing fast speed and good combos. Not every character is going to have the same advantages, so why even try to compare? They're all kinds of different sizes and shapes, so it's just not possible for some of them.


I agree mostly. Pichu=No No. In fact I wonder how he is above Mewtwo on tier list.


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Pichu is just Pikachu with a smaller size. Most of his self damage gains are far too small to make a large impact on performance anyway. I think the majority of them only do one damage to him.


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post Aug 8 2007, 10:03 AM
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Meh, I just don't like yellow mouse things. I like white/blue squirrel things


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post Aug 8 2007, 11:22 AM
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I'm a major Roy abuser, because the SoS deals nasty damage if executed right. I also use Ganon/Ganondorf a lot for power, Sheik and sometimes Zelda, and Captain Falcon.


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