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Posted by: Acacia21 Jun 3 2011, 06:03 PM

Sorry if there is already a thread like this, I didn't see one.


Ok what do you think of smoking? I hate smokers. There's no point and it just ruins your health. I don't get why people have to smoke. It's bad for people to smoke around other people, second-hand smoking is bad. There's completely no point in smoking. You just waste money, and it affects your health. People should stop smoking these days. It's way better to live a healthy lifestyle. So what do you think of smokers?

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Jun 3 2011, 07:54 PM

*shrug* people just like smoking, i mean soda's bad for you and it pretty much leads to kidney stones in excess but people like it and drink it a lot. Can't really dictate what people do and don't like.

I don't mind cigarette smoke in public either. Just too much and I'll either leave or ask the other person to leave or be more mindful, but of it tastes good in my mouth in small doses (as odd as that sounds) so I mean... it's not that big a deal.

Posted by: Matt Cat Jun 3 2011, 08:20 PM

Honestly, I have nothing against them, and I don't really care if they want to shorten their lives by taking up the habit and sticking to it. There's more reasons besides peer pressure; some use it as a means of escaping stress, and if it works for them -- well, good! There are other alternatives, but for all you know, they could've been tried with no positive result.

The only reason I would have to despise smokers: lack of courtesy. My parents used to smoke in the car when my sister and I were kids, and we'd be breathing it in the majority of the time -- until we persistently became a nuisance to drive with in terms of forcing them to break the habit of smoking behind the wheel. Yes, we really hated having to put up with it, and even though we were kids, we were well aware of how inconsiderate they were at the time, and it did hurt in a way that they seemed to not think it through. They used to smoke inside as well, so we'd forever be breathing in smoke wherever we were, with the exception of school. I suppose my parents are the sole reason I despise inconsiderate smokers, but other than that, I really have nothing against them.

I'm sure the rest is self-explanatory in the category of courtesy, so I won't elaborate.




Posted by: Empty Vessel Jun 7 2011, 11:02 AM

personally I dont care about the person's choice of smoking and such, being it is their choice and not mine, but like Matt Cat said, some use it to escape stress, I use second hand smoke to do that, sadly, but yeah, they know the dangers and such, so yeah, I dont smoke and proud of it, dont need too much of that junk in me
Also, I won't completely avoid a smoker, espcially if they are a friend being its not a big bothersome to me being I am use to it from my mom smoking and now my brother smoking

Posted by: amberfunk Jun 9 2011, 08:53 PM

If people choose to smoke that's their business. The only time I have a problem with it is if it's a family member who is smoking because I care about their health. I also care when people who smoke seem to have no common courtesy for others who do not smoke. I don't want to have to hold my breath when I walk downtown or other places outside.

Posted by: Blak99Psy Jun 9 2011, 10:50 PM

It's a bit obnoxious when they all cluster right in front of the door to my building where all of my classes are, or they hide out in coves around the area and scare the crap out of me when I barely notice them (though the latter is minor and a bit funny).

It definitely boils down to courtesy, just as everyone else has said. My grandfather always steps outside to smoke when I'm visiting him. I appreciate that. (although he had quit altogether for 18 years and just started it back recently, but that's another story.)

The Law majors at my school, while I understand how difficult and stressful their lives and classes are, I'd still appreciate it if they wouldn't all crowd directly in front of all the entrances to the buildings so that a person has to breathe it in on the way to every class. (I hold my breath, but you understand what I'm trying to say. Hopefully.) Spread out a little, at least. :/

I wish there were more stress relieving activities in the world that didn't hurt people. It hurts me to sit and watch some of the people I care about shortening their lives. I know that everyone dies in the end, but I wish some people wouldn't expedite the process or increase their chances of a painful exit.

Posted by: MacCoinneach Jun 9 2011, 11:01 PM

This is one of those really polarizing issues! Basically, I think it's okay to smoke or to not smoke. That's a person's choice. I don't think it's okay to tell people whether or not they should smoke because it's unhealthy: I'm willing to bet that most people who smoke are well aware of the health risks of smoking.

My allergies tend to get set off by cigarette smoke, so I do wish the people around me wouldn't smoke near me, but honestly it's none of my business as long as they don't blow the smoke in my face or smoke in the house.

...I really have no idea what kind of point I'm trying to make. Basically, I wish people wouldn't smoke, but I have no room to tell them not to as long as they're not hurting anyone (except, well, themselves--because it's their choice).

Posted by: Dawn23 Jun 10 2011, 09:37 AM

In my opinion, it's just really a matter of choice. If they choose to smoke, fine, but they take risks in doing so. Y'know, like cancer, and stuff. I pretty much ignore them if I see them outside on the streets or around. The smoke does get to me, but it's not that bad. It smells weird though.

However, if a family member smokes, I bug them so much they decide to quit. It's because I can't bear to see them killing themselves off with cigarettes. >_> And I will never smoke. Thanks to 7th grade science. My teacher showed us a video of a cancer operation... and it is disgusting. *barfs* If I wasn't turned off from smoking, I am now.

So that's basically the brunt of my opinion.

Posted by: Belarus Jun 10 2011, 10:04 AM

It's up to them. I personally hate smoking, though. While I see that soda can lead to kidney stones, smoking can lead to death. Blackening lungs and cancer and taste buds dying and teeth turning gross, soda kinda only does that last one, but only if you don't brush. :/ Smoking does it all.
My grandma smokes. She's a little nutty, but I love her. I worry about how much she smokes - she's poor and old. I know it's hard to break the habit, but I just wish she didn't do it. :/
It can make people jumpy or irritated if they don't have a smoke every now and then, they constantly have to take smoke breaks, buy new packs, etc. I just don't think it's worth it. And kids think it's cool to smoke...It's going to lead to sooo many problems: with their parents (if they care), with their future (if they care), with their health (see previous points). It's a pretty bad habit and I think less people should smoke. :/ Jus' sayin'.

Posted by: CloudCuckooCanadian Jun 11 2011, 08:16 PM

As many people have said here, I feel that smoking is up to the smoker him/herself. Smoking is a disgusting habit though, IMO. I hate walking down the streets and getting smoke up my nose. It's such a destructive habit; the only reason many people do it is probably due to peer pressure or simply having the mindset that it will help you "fit in".

Posted by: Raphael Dreamsong Jun 11 2011, 09:57 PM

I'm a smoker. There's nothing that can deter me from smoking, no manner of ads or warning labels. I feel bad for those around me who have to suffer, so I'm pretty considerate of my habit. I don't smoke indoors, I obey the law when it comes to smoking. I don't smoke around children. I don't smoke around people who don't smoke. It is a waste of money though, and I will quit someday soon.

Posted by: Torch Jun 23 2011, 08:08 PM

I think smoking should be advertized as a murder drug. Smoking is a devil.gif thing.

Posted by: Iconox Jun 23 2011, 09:34 PM

It's an addiction just like any other: it just kills you slower. I don't mind smokers; however, due to my sensory-motor integration, the fumes they produce deter me from being around them.

Posted by: Surt Jun 28 2011, 10:00 PM

To be honest I have no issues with smokers in general. They can be fine and decent people and they can be horrid, obnoxious, louts. Yes smoking is and addiction, yes smoking is bad for you, but its their choice. They chose to try it and they chose to continue and it's entirely their business so long as they dont bring others into it through peer pressure or just horrid obnoxiousness (that type of person who deliberately blows smoke in your face and such)

Posted by: TyraniBoah Jun 30 2011, 12:21 PM

What they do with their own body, is not my problem. Most smokers know its bad, but cannot be bothered with the pain of quitting and any type of addiction is hard to handle.

The other half of smokers, just don't care and put pleasure above health. Most of the time, worrying does nothing to help you or that person. They've made the choice, let them deal with the consequences.

Posted by: Eternal Nocturne Jun 30 2011, 03:09 PM

Smokers know what they're doing to themselves. The warnings are everywhere. Many people who smoke do so not because they want to hurt themselves, but because they're addicted to it or smoke to relieve stress.

I don't like it when smokers smoke when there are other people around. They're hurting themselves by smoking -- that's fine because it's their choice -- but when there are other non-smokers involved, we get hurt too. And that's not our choice.

I wouldn't hate a person because they smoke, though. I might dislike their action of smoking, but hating their entire person isn't reasonable.

Posted by: kenneth1221 Jun 30 2011, 03:19 PM

It's their own life their ruining. If it was my friend, I'd definitely try and save them from themselves. I wouldn't be able to help strangers though.

However, second-hand smoke is really bad for you. Sadly, you can't sue for it.

Addiction is another matter. Addicts need help, and hopefully choose a better path.

I've heard it's a huge drain on money.

Residual smoke hangs around and poisons everyone for a while though.

If a smoker stops when asked to, I'd be fine with their manners. If not...

If a smoker friend of mine avoided smoking around me and didn't try to tempt me, I'd be fine. If not...

It all depends on whether the smoker is a jerk as a person or not.

Posted by: hotanddangerous Jul 4 2011, 11:23 AM

An extremely paraphrased argument with a smoker I had over here in the UK.

-Person smoking, sitting on bench doing nothing-
Me: Hey, can you stop smoking, this is a public place?
Smoker: No thanks, I can do what I want. This smoking ban's stupid.
Me: Why's that?
Smoker: It's against our human rights. They can't control me. I get to choose, I don't care about lung cancer.
Me: And it's against my human rights for you to smoke here, passing it on to me, and possibly increasing my chances of a multitude of diseases.
Smoker: Why don't you move?
Me: No, I'm waiting for someone in that shop. You're not.
Smoker: Whatever it's my choice. Smoking isn't illegal.
Me: Actually, it is here, in a public place. And what would you think is cocaine or heroin was legalised?
Smoker: Well no, that's bad for you, bu-
Me: So is smoking.
Smoker: It can't be that bad if the government's not made it illegal.
Me: It's only legal because they make so much money off the VAT.
Smoker: Oh whatever, stupid kids
-Smoker gets up and walks away-

Fuck smokers who don't try to quit, I hope they all get lung cancer and die. And I mean that, I don't care if I offend you.

Posted by: Mercenary Raven Jul 4 2011, 11:45 AM

... then why don't you get the manager to make him move? At any rate, not all of those "fuck the rules IM SMOKIN" are actually like that.

Besides, I don't think you actually know what it's like to quit something like smoking. I don't either, but I can imagine it's fucking painful to do so. Yes, it is a human right, but they shouldn't be smoking in public places at all.

QUOTE
Me: And what would you think is cocaine or heroin was legalised?
Smoker: Well no, that's bad for you, bu-
Me: So is smoking.
Smoker: It can't be that bad if the government's not made it illegal.
Come on, you're bringing the fuckin drug war into this? It's completely irrelevant.

At least with smoking you have a ton of potential not to hurt people (a little second hand smoke isn't bad for you at all, and you won't even see much since most people follow the laws about smoking in a public place anyway). With heroin and cocaine, you pretty much lose your mind and go aggressive on people simply because of addiction (the addiction being caused by fucking with the part of the brain that feels pleasure).

QUOTE
Me: It's only legal because they make so much money off the VAT.
Not only does this apply to anything that sells a shitload of stuff but it doesn't explain why the US cares so much considering how low our VAT/sales tax is.

Posted by: shou75 Jul 4 2011, 03:56 PM

lawl if they smoke they smoke, all you can really do is say hey smoking is bad for you and let them be after that.
Cant really dislike somebody just cause they smoke if you do that's ridiculous.

Posted by: Volcarona Jul 4 2011, 03:58 PM

I don't hate them for it, it's their own choice.

What pisses me off is how arrogant people are with it. There are so many TV Programmes, education classes about it, yet people still do it. After all it's their choice. They've seen the consequences. If they want to do it then do it, it's no skin off my nose.

Posted by: WaltzingDusclops Sep 4 2011, 02:37 PM

I don't have any problem with the actual people who do smoke. My mom smoked for a while before she had kids, and she's like my favorite person. When she told me she smoked for a while I didn't lose any respect for her.
But I do hate the act. I've lost two family members to lung cancer. It's a scary thing. I encourage the people I care about who smoke not to do it, and when the people I've dated have been smokers or have tried smoking, I tell them that I don't like it and don't approve but it's their choice and I'm not going to lecture them, just express my concern and let them make their choice.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I hate the act of smoking, but not people who smoke.

EDIT: I do hate when I see things like mothers driving around smoking with the windows rolled up and a baby in the back seat, and stuff like that. if you want to smoke, it's your choice, but when you do stuff like that you're negatively impacting the people around you.

Posted by: PawsrentOrigin Sep 4 2011, 04:58 PM

I find smoking absoultely disgusting. You're sticking dired up leaves rolled in paper into your mouth and lighting it on fire, then inhaling the smoke. One of my personal rules is never date someone who smokes.

Posted by: KyoushiroTheSilver Sep 4 2011, 07:00 PM

I don't have a problem with it, really. If they do it, it's their choice. Just don't smoke in public. And I hate television shows that glorify it. Though I watch Skins and they smoke like it's necessary for them to stay alive lol. It's unhealthy, and I'd never even consider doing it myself.

Posted by: Zombie Zekrom Oct 12 2011, 04:49 PM

I don't mind smokers as long as they don't smoke while I'm around. I don't mind the smell as much as some people, I just don't want all the secondhand crap getting into me; my cardio system is already kinda crap because I'm not the most active person in the world. As for trying to get them to stop smoking, it's their choice. Smokers can choose to smoke however much they want; not my body, not my problem (mostly).

Posted by: Iron Mousey Oct 12 2011, 05:31 PM

There's nothing wrong with people who smoke and they're not inherently bad for doing so. I don't smoke cigarettes because I have low lung capacity as it is, but if I could and it actually dulled my anxiety, I would. In the age of global mass-production, we consume things every day that are unhealthy and which detriment our bodies--whether we know it or not. It just depends on *what* you consume.

I can't in good conscience hate people for smoking because that's pretty silly. If anything, I get irritated with the companies that continue producing cigarettes knowing full well that they're toxic, but even that's slippery, because we readily make many products which are toxic to living things. :/ That and there's some built-in classism when it comes to smoking nowadays.

Posted by: Reyo Oct 12 2011, 05:52 PM

Anyone who's been to IET will most likely run into these four habits: drinking, smoking, energy drinks, and sex. Now avoiding a raging discussion over the other three, especially sex given that, apparently, having sex with random people you don't know and then never associating with them ever again ISN'T a habit (even though I beg to differ) I did happen to run into smoking quite a bit. I've never really "smoked". I took a couple half puffs off of someone else's Menthols but aside form that I don't need it. It's overly expensive, and my run time really can't afford anymore factors working against it.

Now all that aside, I don't care if you smoke. I do find it obnoxious when people will insist on exercising their "God given right" to smoke no matter what the environment (family restaurant, day care, the entrance to a building, my fucking face etc.) Coming from a city where smoking is ERRWHERE I don't mind it much. I don't like it, but if I broke out in hives every time I'd be dead by now. HOWEVER, I do see the annoyance. While you do have the right to smoke, I to have the right to not have an obnoxious cloud of smoke blown in my innocent nostrils. Now no shit...not everyone's like this. I knew quite a few decent people who smoked in training who were quite decent in their habit, though I have no doubts that there will be at least one of you to raise the issue that BLAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH THEY'RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT!!! facepalm.gif

So...

Cons:

Causes cancer
Addictive
Potentially obnoxious to everyone around you
Expensive as all holy HELL
After enough of it, your lungs are eventually going to decide they've had enough and just stop working

Pros:

You look cool (Because that's what's truly important in life)
Relieves stress (I have Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, and, most recently, RAGE to achieve that particular goal)
Legal (So is drinking...)
Not as bad as soda/drinking/overeating/etc. (Which is basically like saying "Why are you yelling at me for murdering this guy when THAT GUY is looking at child porn?!")
Gives you something to do (You know what else is "something to do"? Going to the movies, taking up a sport, playing video games, and a variety of OTHER activities that are not only healthier, but less expensive)

Needless to say, I'm probably not going to pick up the habit anytime soon.

Posted by: BarkAtTheMoon Oct 12 2011, 06:12 PM

Smoking itself is gross. But if a person chooses to smoke, oh well. Thats their choice. Just don't smoke around me. My shot sinuses already make it hard for me to breath, I dont need to be gagging on smoke -_-2.gif

Posted by: Lugia182 Nov 8 2011, 03:44 PM

I'm trying not to read the replies in here because I know how young some users are, and I know that a lot of younger people (I'm thinking ages lik 11 through 14 maybe) have quite an immature view on smoking. And that's not a bad thing - it'll probably mean they won't start if they hold on to that viewpoint!

But yeah, I'm a smoker so... I can't really say I don't like smoking. I started when I was 17. I partly blame our smoking ban, but I won't get into that. I will stop one day, just now's not a good time health-wise for me. I know that sounds silly since smoking itself is bad for your health, but yeah. I have other health issues I need to deal with right now before I tackle quitting smoking.

Posted by: BarkingChaos Nov 8 2011, 10:12 PM

Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

Posted by: Gizmokarp Nov 9 2011, 01:06 AM

QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 8 2011, 10:12 PM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

darn, thats really messed up. :c

yeah, hes pretty much right. not trying to bash on you or anything, just saying that you probably should stop smoking soon; it will make it harder in the long run to get rid of and/or heal whatever other health problems you currently have now.

as for smokers in general... well, it's kinda hard for me to explain (plus my lazy side just kicked in, lol; it is 1:04am, after all... *is very tired*), so, pretty much what Reyo said sums it up for my opinion/perspective on smoking, so yeah. there ya' go.

and no, im not a smoker, nor will i ever even think about smoking in a million years. or drinking. i don't like neither of 'em. :P

Posted by: Grey Warden Nov 9 2011, 01:29 AM

Disappointment. There is a girl in my sport class, she is skinny as fuck, can run three kilometers without getting shortness of breath and she smokes. I can't stand to look at her.. I'd kill to be able to do half the things she can do, and she wastes it by ruining herself.
I don't smoke, and will never think about it. Unlike girls my age, I have a brain of my own and don't need such things to fit in.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 9 2011, 02:16 AM

QUOTE(Grey Warden @ Nov 9 2011, 02:29 AM) *
Disappointment. There is a girl in my sport class, she is skinny as fuck, can run three kilometers without getting shortness of breath and she smokes. I can't stand to look at her.. I'd kill to be able to do half the things she can do, and she wastes it by ruining herself.
I don't smoke, and will never think about it. Unlike girls my age, I have a brain of my own and don't need such things to fit in.


I absolutely can't stand it when someone can run a 13 minute 2 mile and smoke anywhere between one half to a full pack of cigs a day...meanwhile, I can barely achieve 15:30 and don't smoke at all. It's not the person though, some of the most decent people I've known are able to achieve such a feat, it's just that it goes against all logic.

If there is a God up there, he's a colossal dick-bag.

Posted by: Grey Warden Nov 9 2011, 07:07 AM

Haha, you just made my day. Well done.

Posted by: Lugia182 Nov 10 2011, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 11 2011, 04:17 AM

QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

Posted by: Ritsukah Nov 11 2011, 04:30 AM

Hm, I don't have anything much against smokers. It's their choice really.

I just think it is, indeed, a waste of money, time & life - especially for the hospitals/workers that have to endure long hours keeping someone alive that's about to die from lung cancer due to smoking or inhaling other similar stuff, when that would have never happened if people didn't smoke in the first place.. yer yer - could be saving someone else with a more significant/severe injury/disease, and hospital beds are being wasted on those who choose to soon be in one due to smoking in tha' long run.

Posted by: ValkohomeJuusto Nov 11 2011, 04:51 AM

Some people simply smoke because they want to look and feel cool and 'mature'. I really dislike the smell of smokes, and I dislike it when people do it, but it can't be helped. I have a friend who smokes, but I don't really care about it.
Smokers know about the bad sides of smoking anyways. They've been warned, it's their own choice to smoke or not to smoke.

Posted by: Dark Heart Nov 11 2011, 06:22 AM

I would never do it because life is short, no use in shortening it even further.

Posted by: Lugia182 Nov 11 2011, 09:49 AM

QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 11 2011, 09:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

It's not something I really feel comfortable discussing with people I don't know, sorry. But I can assure you it's nothing to do with my insides (which is, essentially, what smoking affects).

Posted by: BarkingChaos Nov 11 2011, 10:09 AM

Dude, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just saying its easy to get your priorities skewed. I don't want someone else to end up dying because of smoking after fighting another major illness. You never said if it was internal or physical, so the first assumption is always internal.

No need to be so touchy

Posted by: shakefrost Nov 11 2011, 10:26 AM

I don't care if someone does, because most people are aware of the consequences, and it's their decision.
What bothers me is when kids do it. And people who sell cigarettes to children.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 11 2011, 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 11 2011, 10:49 AM) *
QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 11 2011, 09:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

It's not something I really feel comfortable discussing with people I don't know, sorry. But I can assure you it's nothing to do with my insides (which is, essentially, what smoking affects).


Then I must ask you to please not judge us for not understanding something you don't feel comfortable explaining.

Posted by: Dragonflames1994 Nov 12 2011, 04:40 PM

What do I think of smokers?

Good for nothing idiots who have nothing better to do than smoke a cigar while they pollute the earth and cause everyone around them to die of cancer. Disgusting, filthy people who have no lives. There is no excuse for smoking, not one.

And to those who don't smoke and never will: you're awesome. awesome.gif

Posted by: Lugia182 Nov 13 2011, 05:17 PM

QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 11 2011, 03:09 PM) *
Dude, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just saying its easy to get your priorities skewed. I don't want someone else to end up dying because of smoking after fighting another major illness. You never said if it was internal or physical, so the first assumption is always internal.

No need to be so touchy

I know it's easy to, but I'm not right now. I don't think. And sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff like that when they don't know the fully picture.

QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 11 2011, 11:33 PM) *
QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 11 2011, 10:49 AM) *
QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 11 2011, 09:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

It's not something I really feel comfortable discussing with people I don't know, sorry. But I can assure you it's nothing to do with my insides (which is, essentially, what smoking affects).


Then I must ask you to please not judge us for not understanding something you don't feel comfortable explaining.

Uhh what? No. I don't think that's how it works, sorry. I will judge you for judging me... if that's even what you're talking about noes.gif and it's not just about me not being comfortable with it really, it's just none of your business, to be quite frank. I've told you it's not something that smoking affects, that's all you need to know for the purpose of this debate. If you're still judging me for not stopping, then I'll continue to judge you for judging me.

Wish I'd never came in here now sad.gif although I could never have foreseen this level of... whatever this is.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 14 2011, 02:45 AM

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Dude, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just saying its easy to get your priorities skewed. I don't want someone else to end up dying because of smoking after fighting another major illness. You never said if it was internal or physical, so the first assumption is always internal.

No need to be so touchy

I know it's easy to, but I'm not right now. I don't think. And sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff like that when they don't know the fully picture.

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Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

It's not something I really feel comfortable discussing with people I don't know, sorry. But I can assure you it's nothing to do with my insides (which is, essentially, what smoking affects).


Then I must ask you to please not judge us for not understanding something you don't feel comfortable explaining.

Uhh what? No. I don't think that's how it works, sorry. I will judge you for judging me... if that's even what you're talking about noes.gif and it's not just about me not being comfortable with it really, it's just none of your business, to be quite frank. I've told you it's not something that smoking affects, that's all you need to know for the purpose of this debate. If you're still judging me for not stopping, then I'll continue to judge you for judging me.

Wish I'd never came in here now sad.gif although I could never have foreseen this level of... whatever this is.


I'm talking about how illogical it is to hold a lack of understanding over everyone's head while remaining adamant in refusing to let us in on the information we're so ignorant on. Either you tell us what's keeping smoking such a necessary part of your life, or you stop holding the fact that we don't know why over our heads. Personally, I don't care. You don't have to tell me, but when someone is yelling at a group of people for "not understanding" while saying that the right to understand is "none of our business"...well that's just something I'd expect more out of facebook.

But that's not what this thread is about. You can keep yelling at everyone if you want, I'm not going to keep trying to explain it to you and risk diverging on too big a tangent for everyone's liking. I just hope you know where everyone's frustration is coming from.

Posted by: IndigoBlue Nov 15 2011, 03:42 AM

Smokers will be smokers. Like many others have said, people get addicted to it. And I bet at least some of the people who have posted on this topic have never been truly addicted to something. Some people who want to quit just can't.
Some people use smoking as an outlet. Fine. They know the risks. It's not like they believe that smoking is like vitamins to the body.
Some people have grown up with relatives who smoke, and they think it's fine. In China, it's polite to smoke with guests.
To tell you the truth, (this may sound a little weird) I kinda like the smell of smoke. Not a lot. Just a little whiff of it up the nose. Reminds me of barbecue. More than a whiff is just too much *dies*
But the only kind of smoker that I can't stand are those who smoke because they think it's "cool" and it makes them look "cool". It's just stupid and immature. I mean, destroy your health, to look cool? Really? I have met many people who are just angelic without having to start smoking. I have never smoked and never will. I've seen people just grouping together smoking and trying to look cool to the passerby and that really makes me pissed.
There are people who are totally against smoking and hate all smokers no matter what. I'm not trying to offend anyone, but those people should try to understand others a tad bit more.
To smoke or not to smoke? It's honestly just your choice. Nobody else can change that.

Posted by: Lugia182 Nov 16 2011, 12:28 PM

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Dude, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just saying its easy to get your priorities skewed. I don't want someone else to end up dying because of smoking after fighting another major illness. You never said if it was internal or physical, so the first assumption is always internal.

No need to be so touchy

I know it's easy to, but I'm not right now. I don't think. And sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff like that when they don't know the fully picture.

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Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

It's not something I really feel comfortable discussing with people I don't know, sorry. But I can assure you it's nothing to do with my insides (which is, essentially, what smoking affects).


Then I must ask you to please not judge us for not understanding something you don't feel comfortable explaining.

Uhh what? No. I don't think that's how it works, sorry. I will judge you for judging me... if that's even what you're talking about noes.gif and it's not just about me not being comfortable with it really, it's just none of your business, to be quite frank. I've told you it's not something that smoking affects, that's all you need to know for the purpose of this debate. If you're still judging me for not stopping, then I'll continue to judge you for judging me.

Wish I'd never came in here now sad.gif although I could never have foreseen this level of... whatever this is.


I'm talking about how illogical it is to hold a lack of understanding over everyone's head while remaining adamant in refusing to let us in on the information we're so ignorant on. Either you tell us what's keeping smoking such a necessary part of your life, or you stop holding the fact that we don't know why over our heads. Personally, I don't care. You don't have to tell me, but when someone is yelling at a group of people for "not understanding" while saying that the right to understand is "none of our business"...well that's just something I'd expect more out of facebook.

But that's not what this thread is about. You can keep yelling at everyone if you want, I'm not going to keep trying to explain it to you and risk diverging on too big a tangent for everyone's liking. I just hope you know where everyone's frustration is coming from.

*Le sigh* I never said smoking was "such a necessary part of my life"... anywhere... I said stopping wasn't a priority right now. There's a difference. And I'm sorry, I really don't understand where all of this bile is coming from, I just said I didn't want to stop right now 'cause I have other health things that require my willpower and determination to focus on, and you lot got all "Why aren't you stopping?" on me... an honest answer to that? Aside from my willpower and determination being focused elsewhere? I just don't WANT to stop right now. Plain and simple. I will stop one day, but not now. Choose not to understand that if you will. I'm done.

And btw... I'm not yelling... I'm talking. Normally.

Posted by: Reyo Nov 16 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 14 2011, 07:45 AM) *
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QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 11 2011, 03:09 PM) *
Dude, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm just saying its easy to get your priorities skewed. I don't want someone else to end up dying because of smoking after fighting another major illness. You never said if it was internal or physical, so the first assumption is always internal.

No need to be so touchy

I know it's easy to, but I'm not right now. I don't think. And sorry, I just hate it when people say stuff like that when they don't know the fully picture.

QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 11 2011, 11:33 PM) *
QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 11 2011, 10:49 AM) *
QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 11 2011, 09:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

It's not something I really feel comfortable discussing with people I don't know, sorry. But I can assure you it's nothing to do with my insides (which is, essentially, what smoking affects).


Then I must ask you to please not judge us for not understanding something you don't feel comfortable explaining.

Uhh what? No. I don't think that's how it works, sorry. I will judge you for judging me... if that's even what you're talking about noes.gif and it's not just about me not being comfortable with it really, it's just none of your business, to be quite frank. I've told you it's not something that smoking affects, that's all you need to know for the purpose of this debate. If you're still judging me for not stopping, then I'll continue to judge you for judging me.

Wish I'd never came in here now sad.gif although I could never have foreseen this level of... whatever this is.


I'm talking about how illogical it is to hold a lack of understanding over everyone's head while remaining adamant in refusing to let us in on the information we're so ignorant on. Either you tell us what's keeping smoking such a necessary part of your life, or you stop holding the fact that we don't know why over our heads. Personally, I don't care. You don't have to tell me, but when someone is yelling at a group of people for "not understanding" while saying that the right to understand is "none of our business"...well that's just something I'd expect more out of facebook.

But that's not what this thread is about. You can keep yelling at everyone if you want, I'm not going to keep trying to explain it to you and risk diverging on too big a tangent for everyone's liking. I just hope you know where everyone's frustration is coming from.

*Le sigh* I never said smoking was "such a necessary part of my life"... anywhere... I said stopping wasn't a priority right now. There's a difference. And I'm sorry, I really don't understand where all of this bile is coming from, I just said I didn't want to stop right now 'cause I have other health things that require my willpower and determination to focus on, and you lot got all "Why aren't you stopping?" on me... an honest answer to that? Aside from my willpower and determination being focused elsewhere? I just don't WANT to stop right now. Plain and simple. I will stop one day, but not now. Choose not to understand that if you will. I'm done.

And btw... I'm not yelling... I'm talking. Normally.


"And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this)."

Posted by: El cazador Nov 16 2011, 02:44 PM

I think they are unconscious. They do not realize they are endangering the people's life around them but also their own health !

Posted by: Skins T Nov 21 2011, 05:12 AM

Being allergic to cigarette smoke, I cannot be near smokers for a long time. I wouldn't care so much about the subject if people smoked in their own homes/on their property, but they do it in public places where people have no choice but to breathe it in.

If it were banned everywhere except in allocated areas/people's homes, I couldn't care less about it. But since it isn't, I hate it.

Posted by: megaarrow25 Nov 23 2011, 12:42 AM

I think its fine, my mom and dad both do it and so does my brother, i like that theyr banning it in public places tho

Posted by: Avadeya Apr 5 2012, 01:53 AM

I have nothing against smokers personally (my parents and some of my best friends smoke), but I hate it when they smoke in inclosed areas or in public places. The smell makes me nauseous, the smoke makes my eyes tear up, and I definitely don't want any children my age and especially children younger than me around those chemicals. I've never studied cigarettes or how harmful it is second-hand, but I do know how harmful it can be first-hand (my grandfather died of lung cancer because of smoking when he was barely 56 years old), and I've heard that second-hand smoking can be just as bad if not worse. Again, I don't know for a fact if that's true, but if it is, I'd throw the biggest hissy fit if someone smoked around my baby sister after I politely ask them to stop (or around any other child, for that matter).

It's a disgusting habit I'll never take up, but I won't ever tell someone they're an idiot or anything like that for doing it to themselves, so long as they keep it to themselves.

Hope I made sense! walloftext.gif

Posted by: TheOceansGuardian Apr 5 2012, 07:52 PM

I am particularly sensitive to smoking and drug usage, for a majority of my relatives smoke and do drugs, and a few have already lost their lives because of it. I hate knowing that people I love and are close to have a much shortened life span because they've been smoking for years.

So, yeh. I wish people wouldn't do it. It makes you smell nasty and just completely ruins your health.

Posted by: Dreams91 May 17 2012, 01:12 PM

I guess you only wish once i smoked for four years quit 3 months ago best thing iv'e done but i can say iv'e smoked and something i wont be doing again.

Posted by: Deadchu May 18 2012, 09:40 AM

What pisses me off is that some people tell people to stop smoking as if it were that easy. Some people clearly hasn't ever dealt with an addiction, or at least not as strong as cigarettes. Nicotine practically brainwashes people and get pissed at every single little thing, and there is no ignoring it either. You can't get your mind off it, because it isn't some lasting "I'm pissed at everything", it's the triggers. There are triggers everywhere. The only thing one can really do is to get nicotine patches and decrease in the use of them little by little and even that it going to be hard.

Posted by: Freeze Shock May 18 2012, 10:01 AM

QUOTE(Deadchu @ May 18 2012, 03:40 PM) *
What pisses me off is that some people tell people to stop smoking as if it were that easy. Some people clearly hasn't ever dealt with an addiction, or at least not as strong as cigarettes. Nicotine practically brainwashes people and get pissed at every single little thing, and there is no ignoring it either. You can't get your mind off it, because it isn't some lasting "I'm pissed at everything", it's the triggers. There are triggers everywhere. The only thing one can really do is to get nicotine patches and decrease in the use of them little by little and even that it going to be hard.


This.

I'm gonna be blunt here. I used to be a smoker. Well I still am in a way. I wasn't that addicted, but there was addiction there. Until people actually go through an addiction they won't understand how hard it is to stop. It's pretty much impossible to go from 3-4 fags a day to none for the rest of the week.

I think the bit that caused me to realise the problem was learning about the lungs in September last year. As in, not your average 14 year old explanation, I'm talking a 17-18 year old deep explanation. Scared me a lot. I still have the odd one here and there (cutting down a lot to almost none), haven't had one in... 2 weeks or so now? Patches didn't really help, though. I just did it from my own free will.

Best thing I've ever decided to do. Although bearing in mind that my skin, teeth, fingers etc didn't really change much, nor did my clothes. I just wish people would understand how bad it is. Biggest regret starting, biggest achievement with willpower to quit.

Posted by: purple umbreon May 18 2012, 10:11 AM

I don't have anything against smokers. We don't have the right to tell them to stop.
Its really difficult for them to stop because they are addicted.
I also have some sort of addiction but its a completely different one.
Another reason I don't mind so much is because my father smokes.

Posted by: Reyo May 19 2012, 12:29 AM

As I've most likely stated before, like any habit/hobby/activity/whathaveyou smoking is just one of those things where it's perfectly fine as long as you're not a dick about it. The main thing with smoking, though, is that it tends to be a more complicated manner just by the simple fact that second hand smoke can be so damn irritating to those who don't smoke. I respect anyone's decision to smoke as long as those same "anyone"s also respect my decision not to smoke. I dislike cigarette smoke, much like the rest of everyone who doesn't smoke. There's a reason you can't do it in what feels like most situations. As long as you're not an obnoxious dick about it I don't really care.

Posted by: AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken Jun 7 2012, 05:26 AM

Being a smoker myself, I disagree. I started smoking because when I was in hospital it was virtually the only way I could get outside for a bit (long story).

People can make their own choices and you're right. It is their choice. Which is why I won't smoke if I think it may bother other people. If I'm outside with someone, I'll stand downwind from them or walk behind them. If I'm around strangers in a busy street, I'll find somewhere where others are smoking, or just somewhere quieter. And although my parents probably wouldn't mind me smoking indoors, I never do it, it's just not okay IMO.

But yeah, if people want to ignore the health hazards and smoke then why the fudge not.

Posted by: Disgracik Jun 10 2012, 10:30 AM

Being smoker for almost 6 years facepalm.gif

Of course understanding that this is bad and everything but anyway, I still find it coll, sometimes even relaxing... Anyway, I don't smoke at home, I just don't want to, but when I go out, I just have to do it... I can say, in someway, I've got psychological dependence. But i try to control it, when in crowded places or with people who hate smell of it, I try not to... Having willpower can help to give up, but not always... People know what bad influence has smoking, but every year number of smokers is growing up.... I personally don't like smokers, when they smoke before get on a public transport (quite popular in my country) and similar situations, being myself smoker, quite a paradox, huh.....

And speaking about second-hand smoking - it's just deal of people who don't smoke, they can easily omit ones who smoke. And just don't forget about human rights... For example - If I'm sitting in a park on bench, smoking when near me sits person, who don't smoke, whose rights will be violated, mine or that person... It's always choice of each person.

Posted by: lorks Jul 20 2012, 11:58 AM

too each their own. if people want to smoke, they can, and they have to live with whatever comes with it. i don't particularly like people smoking in public (especially busy places) but as long as it doesn't blow right in my fucking face i really have no problem with it. i do hate the kids that smoke b/c they think it's cool or something, though.

Posted by: Mister Blah Jul 22 2012, 06:41 AM

Smoking's addictive nature is what drives people to continuously smoke, and it's pushed on the population. Every kid out there is a potential costumer, and just one cigarette can get them on the cigarette's brand for life. That's a nice bit of income, and what it all comes down to really is money.

Posted by: quomimi Jul 22 2012, 06:43 AM

I don't like smoking, and I know I'm not going to do it. But I don't exactly hate smokers, I just dislike the smell.

Posted by: Lord Drapion Jul 22 2012, 06:45 AM

I honestly hate it because my aunt does around everyone, but i have asthma so yeah. It really does have no point and it eventually can kill you... that is all.

Posted by: Nimmi Jul 22 2012, 08:17 AM

In my opinion, it's your own choice weither you smoke or not. I personally hate smokers, being surrounded by my family who smoke. Thankfully, none of my friends smoke so I don't have to be around it all the time. Recently, I've grown to hate smoking. My dad has smoked 40 years of his life, and is now very sick from smoking. I'm not blaming the cigarettes, i'm blaming him for making such a stupid decision in his life that he has to pay for it now. Further more, why would you pay nearly 7 or 8 euro for 20 cigarettes. Some people smoke two to three packs maybe even more a day. You could save so much money not getting the death sticks.

This is just my two cents anyway.

Posted by: Sukau Jul 24 2012, 03:06 PM

I hate smoking, especially cigarettes. Thankfully my parents don't smoke so I'm not exposed to it often.
Why pay money for something that won't give you any benefit at all?

Posted by: Doodlebug2000R Jul 24 2012, 03:18 PM

To me, If people want to smoke, they can, but they have to face the price that comes with it. They can if they want at their own risk. I am only twelve years old, and probably won't smoke ever, but people make their own choices. let them ruin their life. Most people smoke from false advertising or peer pressure from friends saying you will be cool or you will be popular, but you shouldn't do smoking just for that, let your friends ruin their lives, don't smoke. That is what I have to say.

Posted by: Samoo Jul 24 2012, 03:19 PM

QUOTE(Sukau @ Jul 24 2012, 09:06 PM) *
I hate smoking, especially cigarettes. Thankfully my parents don't smoke so I'm not exposed to it often.
Why pay money for something that won't give you any benefit at all?


People use it as a relief. While I was going through a tough time (in the past year or so) while my parents were in the process of splitting, smoking was the only relief I actually had. Some do it out of peer pressure, but the only benefit I had from it was using it as an excuse to go for a walk in the park, have a few fags and come home.

Posted by: Nanaki Sep 21 2012, 08:29 PM

i don't smoke myself but i know plenty of people who do, and i'm around a lot of second hand smoke. o:
tbh i don't really have an issue with it, i know people smoke because it helps them calm down, and it's like a stress reliever to them. also pretty sure 9/10 of the people who smoke know the dangers that come with it so... it's their choice.

i do love the smell of tobacco though. i just smell cigarettes while they aren't lit ;;

Posted by: Foresterra Sep 23 2012, 02:33 PM

It's a choice you make, but for people who choose it I see it as some sort of weakness because they couldn't resist the temptations. Nonetheless I don't mind smokers and I enjoy watching my friends get cancer.
but not really. Smoking has some sort of "cool" when you do it right, and with right I mean long cigarettes and a classy suit.

Posted by: 3ed3 Sep 23 2012, 08:45 PM

300,000 smokers die each year 3,000 non smokers DIE each year so i just dont like it make igeli geez or ill go ninja.gif on them

Posted by: Aves Dominari Oct 1 2012, 11:50 AM

QUOTE(3ed3 @ Sep 23 2012, 09:45 PM) *
300,000 smokers die each year 3,000 non smokers DIE each year so i just dont like it make igeli geez or ill go ninja.gif on them


I have no doubt that the numbers on both ends are much higher. Do you mean of lung cancer?

EDIT:
All data comes from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website.
443,000 people die annually of smoking-related health problems. Of these 443,000 people, 49,400 are not smokers - i.e., they were killed by second-hand smoke.
Now, I must point out that getting a whiff of the guy smoking on the corner isn't going to give you lung cancer. Smokers die after years of exposure, and the same is true for non-smokers. In order to die of second-hand smoke, you have to be constantly exposed to a smoker over a period of time. Have you ever seen a 'designated smoking zone' in an airport or restaurant? These places are there so smokers can have privacy and so that people can avoid exposure if they don't feel like it. The result is that random people don't die after exposure to second-hand smoke from strangers over the course of their lives, so smokers aren't a threat to society as a whole or much of society at all. The next step, of course, should be education; cigarette companies spent $9.94 billion in 2008 on advertising, and we should be spending a decent amount as well educating people on the risks of smoking and second-hand smoke.

Posted by: larryturbo Oct 7 2012, 07:33 AM

I don't smoke and I don't really have a problem with smokers.I really hate the ones who light a cigarette and blow the smoke inside a car making you desperately gasp for air though.

Posted by: Chrome Oct 7 2012, 08:17 AM

They can smoke all they want, just don't expose me to it.

Posted by: Sora the Pikachu Oct 7 2012, 08:32 AM

I hate smokers, especially the kind of smokers who try to get other people to smoke.

My opinion is that it's just plain old stupid. They want to try cigars when they're young because they think smoking is so 'bad' ad cool. It's just like cursing and cussing, (yes, there is a difference) they know people don't want them to say it, but they do anyways just because it's yet again 'bad' and 'cool' and 'everyone's doing it.' I know one time, when I was in elementary school, someone in kindergarten CUSSED OUT someone in the first grade, our vice principal was right beside the two of them, and she didn't give a care. On my bus one time, people in the back ate tobacco in the back of the bus and claimed it was beef jerkey, even though they spat it out in a bottle, they even sold some for little kids! Good thing they didn't have any money, and they also tried to sell cigars, and someone brought a lighter with them to melt a Gatorade bottle. When I told the bus driver, everybody lied and said he didn't have a lighter, even the kid himself, and the bus was also uncomfortably overcrowded.

Sorry if I was ranting in that paragraph.

Posted by: BlueXephos Oct 21 2012, 05:03 PM

Smokers come in many forms. There are those that are completely unaware of their possible consequences, and drain their paychecks and savings on smoking many times a day. And there are others that seldom have a cigarette, mindful of where and when they smoke, and would continue to avoid smoking. The former, I severely dislike, and wish that they do not exist in this world, as they cause pain to others around them without any consideration whatsoever. The latter, I have a bit of respect for, as they realize what can happen by oversmoking, and are not overly stubborn about their issue.

Posted by: TrufflesTheWildDog Oct 30 2012, 02:12 PM

A lot of my relatives are smokers. I'll never understand why people would choose to continually do something that's so harmful to your health, but obviously it's their choice~

Although I wish my loved ones didn't.

But aside from that, I don't really care if people do. With smoking being banned inside for the most part now, it's all good. It's just annoying how butthurt some smokers get when others call smoking unattractive. I mean....to some people (including me) it IS. I wouldn't date someone who was an avid smoker. It's a turnoff.

Posted by: Tales Nov 5 2012, 07:53 AM

I am very anti-smoking. As I was born with breathing issues, and don't get enough oxygen as it is I find being around smokers makes it especially hard to breathe, and leads to dizziness and possibly fainting if around them to long. And I know I'm not the only person in the world with breathing problems, other people (eg. Asthmatics) also have similar problems, and even people who have no breathing problems, can have trouble breathing around smokers.

It's also bad for your health due to all the horrible chemicals used to make cigarettes. In my opinion smoking is just a slow suicide that effects everyone via Passive Smoking. It can lead to a whole load of horrible diseases including Lung Cancer, Vascular Stenosis and many others, and can eventually lead to an early death.

Posted by: Banette Nov 30 2012, 04:34 PM

I don't like when people smoke. Especially when one person that does is my own mom... I've developed a sensitivity to the smell over the years so that makes it worse. I find it weird that no one seems to care about what it's doing to them or the people around them.

I was turned off smoking forever in the third grade when some people from S.W.A.T. (I think it was them) showed us a healthy lung and a smoker's lung next to each other. Real ones, in separate bags. Also, they gave an example of what smoking could do to vocal cords and the throat itself, and that was scary enough for me. The deal was sealed even further when my grandmother had a heart attack and the doctor told her that her main problem was smoking...

It makes no sense, that's for sure. Seriously, I can't think of any really beneficial things that come from it. Even that feeling of calmness that it gives you could just as easily come from lying down and listening to music or something. Other than that, it ruins you inside and out, it smells awful, it can decrease the value and quality of anything you own, and on top of all that, it kills you! The answer should be obvious here...

Posted by: sal tarik Nov 30 2012, 06:00 PM

Ugh, smokers are the worst. People pick smoking for a bad life style. I just wish the smoking will become illegal.

Posted by: Kewldop Nov 30 2012, 08:36 PM

I hate smokers. I don't even know why the government sells them. There are no benefits to them, or maybe i'm not seeing the point. I hate the lingering smell it leaves too, especially when its in my house or when someone walks by. Yuck, it's just nasty.

Posted by: The Shadow Nov 30 2012, 09:30 PM

I don't take a liking to smokers, but honestly I cannot do anything about it.

I would love to say, 'No more smoking! You all are wasting your money killing yourself and others!' but I can't, I think it is somewhere in the constitution... But I wouldn't want to restrict peoples freedoms anyway, I mean if you restrict the right to smoke, what is next? No owning guns? No practicing religion? I would love to ban smoking everywhere, but I wouldn't want it to go too far.

Posted by: Plastique Fox Dec 1 2012, 05:52 PM

Personally, I smoke a cig once in a while. I don't think anythings wrong with it. Sure IT MAY give you health problems but it's the PERSONS life choice, NOT yours. Don't worry about such little things. smugnod.gif

Posted by: Zer0hundred Feb 24 2013, 04:44 PM

QUOTE(Plastique Fox @ Dec 1 2012, 02:52 PM) *
Personally, I smoke a cig once in a while. I don't think anythings wrong with it. Sure IT MAY give you health problems but it's the PERSONS life choice, NOT yours. Don't worry about such little things. smugnod.gif

But its NOT JUST the person's life, it DOES affect others!! Ever heard of second hand smoke? my mom and dad smoked for a long time, and i have asthma just because of it! And they say that second hand smoke is actually WORSE than actually smoking the cig yourself.
To be honest, i wouldnt care about it if it only affected the person who smoked. probably be good to keep the population in check and get rid of some short-termed thinkers, actually, but it doesnt just affect one person, it affects everybody around that person as well as that person.
But i cant blame it all on smokers; smoking is an addiction, its just like druga ddiction (it IS drug addiction technically), and just like junk food addiction, its almost impossable to stop once you start. But whats worse is how tabacco companies are being just as bad by endourcing smoking. (like what happened recently with a tabacco company that had been lying about how much tabacco was in their cigs and adding extra tabacco or doing whatever that made their cigs stronger and more addicting).
So i really dont care if a smoker knows how to be sensable and considerate to those around them, but its really annoying when somebody just busts out a cig right in the middle of a crowd, or worse, around children. Its just not right to take somebody elses life like that, especially if you dont even know them!

Posted by: Reapehify Feb 24 2013, 09:16 PM

QUOTE(Freeze Shock @ May 18 2012, 11:01 AM) *
QUOTE(Deadchu @ May 18 2012, 03:40 PM) *
What pisses me off is that some people tell people to stop smoking as if it were that easy. Some people clearly hasn't ever dealt with an addiction, or at least not as strong as cigarettes. Nicotine practically brainwashes people and get pissed at every single little thing, and there is no ignoring it either. You can't get your mind off it, because it isn't some lasting "I'm pissed at everything", it's the triggers. There are triggers everywhere. The only thing one can really do is to get nicotine patches and decrease in the use of them little by little and even that it going to be hard.


This.

I'm gonna be blunt here. I used to be a smoker. Well I still am in a way. I wasn't that addicted, but there was addiction there. Until people actually go through an addiction they won't understand how hard it is to stop. It's pretty much impossible to go from 3-4 fags a day to none for the rest of the week.

I think the bit that caused me to realise the problem was learning about the lungs in September last year. As in, not your average 14 year old explanation, I'm talking a 17-18 year old deep explanation. Scared me a lot. I still have the odd one here and there (cutting down a lot to almost none), haven't had one in... 2 weeks or so now? Patches didn't really help, though. I just did it from my own free will.

Best thing I've ever decided to do. Although bearing in mind that my skin, teeth, fingers etc didn't really change much, nor did my clothes. I just wish people would understand how bad it is. Biggest regret starting, biggest achievement with willpower to quit.



Hate to pick on you, but you're wrong. Well, he's wrong, but you're wrong too. You're right, of course, it's your story so it can't be inherently wrong. But it isn't that difficult. My father was a smoker until he found out I was going to be born, and quit then and there cold turkey. No patches, no trigger difficult, just moved on plain and simple. People who smoke need to realize that they have a problem (if it is a problem for them) and just quit. Sure it plugs up your pleasure centers but that's an excuse people hide behind. I've been addicted to chocolate milk before and needed to stop because it was costing me a fortune. What drug is there? Are you going to blame some hormone reaction from the milk?

Case in point, it's easy if you want to.

Posted by: LucarioandDialga Feb 24 2013, 11:09 PM

I know some great people who smoke. It breaks my heart that they're hurting their health. I hate that they smoke, but that doesn't mean I hate the person. My aunt smokes, and she's absolutely amazing and I love her dearly. I hate that she smokes, but I don't hate her.


Posted by: Lord Raven Mar 15 2013, 01:23 AM

People can live their life however they choose so there's no need to judge.

For some people, it's very hard to quit btw, incentive or not. There is a certain degree of psychological addiction that can occur at some point that makes it VERY difficult. And there are no universal methods that work for everyone. I hardly believe that your argument wholly applies Reapehify.

Posted by: Yuno Gasai Mar 15 2013, 01:35 PM

QUOTE(Reapehify @ Feb 25 2013, 02:16 AM) *
Hate to pick on you, but you're wrong. Well, he's wrong, but you're wrong too. You're right, of course, it's your story so it can't be inherently wrong. But it isn't that difficult. My father was a smoker until he found out I was going to be born, and quit then and there cold turkey. No patches, no trigger difficult, just moved on plain and simple. People who smoke need to realize that they have a problem (if it is a problem for them) and just quit. Sure it plugs up your pleasure centers but that's an excuse people hide behind. I've been addicted to chocolate milk before and needed to stop because it was costing me a fortune. What drug is there? Are you going to blame some hormone reaction from the milk?

Case in point, it's easy if you want to.


There is no drug there. There's a difference between being addicted to something, both physically and mentally, and really liking something (like chocolate milk). You can't really compare the two, or speak as if you know what it's like to suffer from an addiction. It's quite insulting to be honest, similar to saying to someone suffering from depression "I know how it feels, I was sad yesterday, I got over it so should you." Even if you really have suffered from an addiction, not everyone deals with it the same. Just because your dad or my brother or whoever's friend quit easily, doesn't mean everyone else can.

Oh and
QUOTE(hotanddangerous @ Jul 4 2011, 04:23 PM) *
Fuck smokers who don't try to quit, I hope they all get lung cancer and die. And I mean that, I don't care if I offend you.


Honestly I kinda hope I do too, otherwise I'd care to try and quit.

Posted by: Nemu Mar 15 2013, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(hotanddangerous @ Jul 4 2011, 10:23 AM) *
An extremely paraphrased argument with a smoker I had over here in the UK.

-Person smoking, sitting on bench doing nothing-
Me: Hey, can you stop smoking, this is a public place?
Smoker: No thanks, I can do what I want. This smoking ban's stupid.
Me: Why's that?
Smoker: It's against our human rights. They can't control me. I get to choose, I don't care about lung cancer.
Me: And it's against my human rights for you to smoke here, passing it on to me, and possibly increasing my chances of a multitude of diseases.
Smoker: Why don't you move?
Me: No, I'm waiting for someone in that shop. You're not.
Smoker: Whatever it's my choice. Smoking isn't illegal.
Me: Actually, it is here, in a public place. And what would you think is cocaine or heroin was legalised?
Smoker: Well no, that's bad for you, bu-
Me: So is smoking.
Smoker: It can't be that bad if the government's not made it illegal.
Me: It's only legal because they make so much money off the VAT.
Smoker: Oh whatever, stupid kids
-Smoker gets up and walks away-

Fuck smokers who don't try to quit, I hope they all get lung cancer and die. And I mean that, I don't care if I offend you.


Seriously?
I quit, and unless you have I suggest you shut your damn mouth, cause that's just hateful ignorance spewing out of it.

Posted by: jellybean chi Mar 18 2013, 06:51 PM

if they want to smoke then let them; they're hurting themselves though. the thing i hate is if they live with others that don't smoke, like kids or pets or spouses, etc, because secondhand smoke is just as dangerous. and...smoking is kind of disgusting... cigarette ingredients include the same stuff found in nail polish remover and rat poison... =.=

Posted by: trainer Mar 26 2013, 11:30 AM

I really don't like smokers for many reasons.1. standing next to them makes my nose quiver from the smoke they blow out,2. smoking will rot your teeth and cause lung cancer,3. it makes the smoker's body smell, 4. it makes you lose your appetite if you smoke, 5. it will also make you addicted to it because of the drugs and poisons in it, and 6. if you are smoking, try to quit. it's bad for your health and for others near you.

Posted by: ShinyCaterpie Apr 2 2013, 03:54 PM

I for one think smoking is disgusting, but there's no restriction on how people live. They can choose whether to smoke or not.

Posted by: Elegant Elephant Apr 2 2013, 04:13 PM

Smoke as much as you want as long as you don't do it all over my face.

Posted by: Kiwani Apr 8 2013, 09:49 AM

I think of it like this. If they want to die from cancer then let them smoke all the cancer sticks and waste all they money they want.

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