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The Horrors of the Anime, Critique it here!
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post Jun 5 2009, 06:12 PM
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Its repetitive, and it has Team Rocket in it.

As mentioned in another post here I really don't get their obsession with Pikachu.
They show up in episode 2 looking like feared badass villains, then they get roasted by an injured Pikachu, charged with a bunch of other Pikachu and a broken bike.
So obviously they decide Pikachu is awesome and want to steel it.
They show up again in episode 3 and squirt Pikachu and Pidgeotto in their face then...they get beaten...not by Pikachu, but by CATERPIE. Whom judging by his following evolution was probably around level 6 at the time. That doesn't say much about Ekans and Koffing's levels does it?

There's also the issue of Giovanni. I always thought that before the end of the Kanto arc they'd have some kind of big showdown with him but now..Now I'm not even sure if the main characters are aware he exists. He gets far too little to do despite the fact that he SHOULD be the main villain, at least of the first arc! Instead we get Jessie, James and Meowth. Who are probably fired by now but too dumb to realize it.

Then there's how everyone releases Pokčmon for the most idiotic reasons.
Ash trades Butterfree for a Raticate for...why? Some random guy suggested it?? What the heck did he need Raticate for anyway? He'd already proven Butterfee was stronger! Yes he got it back but gosh!
Just a few episodes later Butterfree is released so it can have a mate... Wonder if he regretted that a few episodes later when he got to Saffron City?
Then there's how Pidgeotto is plain ignored in several episodes. He's one of my favourite Pokčmon that's been in Ash's parties and its lucky to be mentioned let alone let out of its pokčball every now and then. He didn't even let it out at Mewtwo's party when everyone else let out ALL their Pokčmon (but Ash, Brock and Misty..Misty only let out Psyduck it seems, the pokčmon she hates most o.o)
And of course... Pidgeotto for some reason evolves despite never being allowed to fight and he releases it too look after a bunch of Pidgey facepalm.gif
He also meets a bunch of Pikachu which makes him consider releasing THAT so he can be with his own kind! Does he EVER consider that for all the other Pokčmon he's forcefully stuffed into a ball and taking them away from their homes and families?
He gave away Primeape once he'd FINALLY made it listen to him so it can become a boxing champion...which it already was.
James leaves Growlie behind so it can look after his parents, now consider this: 1: They're lousy parents and he doesn't seem to like them. 2. What do they need looking after for? They're adults. James is the one who's constantly getting beat up by a yellow rodent. HE needs protection!
Then... well I pretty much stopped watching the anime for a while at this point. I've seen a few episodes recently but I only watch what I want to see.

What also confuses me is the case of Charmander-Charizard.
Ash rescues it from the cold rain where it ALMOST DIES as his previous douchebag trainer deserted him.
Charmander seems genuinely grateful and remains Ash's fateful friend until...he evolves into Charmeleon and torches his ear. What the blargagh.gif happened?
What an ungrateful pokčmon! I don't think I've seen that rapid change in personality with Ash's (few) other pokčmon who evolve.

Also Ash is said to be the same age as every other new main character, who's 10... he's had at least one one-year anniversary for getting Pikachu but no...He's 10. After 10 years, he's still 10.
He should be at least 17 by now but he definitely doesn't look that way.


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post Jun 5 2009, 09:19 PM
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I think one of their reasons for changing Ash's voice actor was to try and make him sound slightly more mature.

He should be about 15 in DP, having gone to the Battle Frontier after Hoen.

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post Jun 6 2009, 02:57 AM
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It isn't great, but I've seen worse as far as anime too. Nowadays, there's too much filler. There're even filler arcs! But at least it's better than Naruto's filler. That's not saying much. noes.gif

I love the movies, though. The pace of them forces them to come up with epic stories and pull out all the stops and all.


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post Aug 11 2009, 07:44 AM
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What I don't like about the anime are common mistakes (such as in graphics/coloring...) and events that don't make sense.
I also agree with too many fillers and I simply can't understand how time passes in the pokemon world, how they wear normal outfit in snowy climats and many other things >.> (this is the result of having an "anime" based on the manga only at the beggining of the series?)


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It's a show for kids, so, nothing to bother with, at least for me when it comes to repetitive storyline, TR, those fillers... honestly though I love filler characters cause it has some variety to the cast and more shipping kinks. :P

I just don't like the technical errors they make... and also making Pokemon HD. But they had to go with the flow with the other anime, since HD is in now. :P

Damn, I'll never get my dose of Zoey now. XD

Lawl, yeah, the climate thing is too amusing. Normal clothing in winter, they must have superpowers for it. XP

Also, notice how Ash's and Brock's AG outfits seem more suitable for Sinnoh but instead, their Sinnoh outfits are meant for Hoenn? awesome.gif


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I don't think there's much I can say that hasn't already been said.

Honestly,I think it'd be awesome if the series was a little darker,you know?And I don't think the kiddies would complain,either.

But you know,not frighteningly dark.Just like,How 90's cartoons used to be a little on the edgey side.Pokemon's way too safe.Just a little suspense is all I'm asking.A few close-calls.

And also,I know that Team Rocket is primarily comic-relief now,but if they're going to use them for that,I think they should get better villians.I love Team Rocket,but they should either toughen up or become full-time good guys.I don't mind a good deed every once in a while,but doing nice things AND screwing up?Tsk tsk...Come on guys,you're supposed to be villians.


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post Aug 25 2009, 04:23 PM
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one thing i dislike is corsola. It has the defense of a wet tissue, two swifts and a tackle KO it, from an espeon, before the split? Then you have the lack of continuity such as aerodactyl who originally ate people, but now we know it eats berries...


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post Oct 29 2009, 12:34 PM
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- Catch more pokémon. (Seriously!)
- Use some things from the manga.
- Replace Brock OR Ash.
- Make a girl the "new" ash.
- Put a bit more love in it. Like, Ash having a girlfriend or something.
- Stop putting Team Rocket in every episode.
- Let the characters have a little more personality.
- Make it a bit realistic, like let them actually sleep.
- Show how their whole day looks.
- Show a bit more of the town/city. (Let them stay a bit longer in one town/city)
- Make the characters a little more grown-up. I mean, Ash still acts the same he did when he was ten. (I think he's fourteen now or something).


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post Nov 14 2009, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(Fabled @ Oct 29 2009, 05:34 PM) *
- Catch more pokémon. (Seriously!)
- Use some things from the manga.
- Replace Brock OR Ash.
- Make a girl the "new" ash.
- Put a bit more love in it. Like, Ash having a girlfriend or something.
- Stop putting Team Rocket in every episode.
- Let the characters have a little more personality.
- Make it a bit realistic, like let them actually sleep.
- Show how their whole day looks.
- Show a bit more of the town/city. (Let them stay a bit longer in one town/city)
- Make the characters a little more grown-up. I mean, Ash still acts the same he did when he was ten. (I think he's fourteen now or something).


Here's what I think:

1.They should stop showing the same episodes all the time (Wallace Cup,Enter Galactic,etc.)

2.If Ash wants to be a Pokemon Master he needs better Pokemon than a Buizel,a Pikachu and a Chimchar.

3.In the Wallace Cup episode with May VS Dawn,May should have won.I mean look at Dawn-a Piplup couldn't stand a chance against a Glaceon.Please Nintendo,the main characters don't have to win every time

4.Why do all the episodes have pointless battles and plots?Remember when Ash actually caught Pokemon?Now he just seems to show off because his Buizel can spin and use Aqua Jet.

5.Moves are being too overpowered in the Anime.Whirlpool is not as strong as it is in the cartoon.

I think the Anime should be like the games-There is a different Main Character in every series and region.Then they could go around the region catching their Pokemon and battling the gym leader.Team Rocket only appear every few episodes trying to steal the main character's Pokedex.
That way there is no 'walking through a forest'.Stuff actually happens.

Oh,and also,I hate how Ash has two starter Pokemon.It's just unnatural.There's no way you'd find a Turtwig in the wild on the games.I think Brock should of had the Turtwig to even stuff out.

In my opinion,Team Rocket pwns everything in the Anime,especially Ash.They seem to be the only source of laughter in the whole show.Another funny thing is the sort-of-evil laugh Croagunk does when he's just jabbed brock in the backside for flirting.That cracks me up every time.There just isn't enough humor in the show as there used to be.

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post Nov 14 2009, 04:03 PM
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I really dislike the new episodes, but I watch them just to keep up with it (and to see my favorite characters for the region).

ASH NEEDS TO EVOLVE PIKACHU. They've had like, 5 episodes where they leave it as a cliff hanger...then Meowth or something takes the stone and Pikachu doesn't evolve! Ugh!

MUK! He used Muk like, once and never used it again. And maybe he should use a few of the 30 Tauros he neglects. Bulbasaur, Chimchar, Squirtle, Totodile, and Cyndaquil really need to evolve. noes.gif

I love Team Rocket (only for Meowth) but they just need to become good guys.

Keep Ash, tone down his Mary Sue-ness, give him more wild Pokemon instead of starters, bring in a new character other than Brock and it'll be good. You just can't get rid of Ash because what would be the point of all those movies where he was the main character?

...I like Dawn, but her Piplup should NOT have won against Glaceon... Dawn is such a Mary Sue at contests.

Oh! They should put in a little more Gym battle episodes, because nearly all the episodes have to do with a contest, or training for one. Hoenn is my favorite region- anime-wise.


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post Nov 14 2009, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(Kunzi @ Nov 14 2009, 09:03 PM) *
I really dislike the new episodes, but I watch them just to keep up with it (and to see my favorite characters for the region).

ASH NEEDS TO EVOLVE PIKACHU. They've had like, 5 episodes where they leave it as a cliff hanger...then Meowth or something takes the stone and Pikachu doesn't evolve! Ugh!

MUK! He used Muk like, once and never used it again. And maybe he should use a few of the 30 Tauros he neglects. Bulbasaur, Chimchar, Squirtle, Totodile, and Cyndaquil really need to evolve. noes.gif

I love Team Rocket (only for Meowth) but they just need to become good guys.

Keep Ash, tone down his Mary Sue-ness, give him more wild Pokemon instead of starters, bring in a new character other than Brock and it'll be good. You just can't get rid of Ash because what would be the point of all those movies where he was the main character?

...I like Dawn, but her Piplup should NOT have won against Glaceon... Dawn is such a Mary Sue at contests.

Oh! They should put in a little more Gym battle episodes, because nearly all the episodes have to do with a contest, or training for one. Hoenn is my favorite region- anime-wise.


What I find sad is the fact that you never see any of the 'Good' Pokemon anymore.When I say the 'Good' Pokemon I mean the likes of Beedrill,Eevee,Gyarados,etc.Remember the extremely sad Butterfree episode?I haven't seen Butterfree since then,and I find that quite upsetting.Just think about it.Butterfree was an innocent thing.It was basically a butterfly.But that was what was so innocently appealing about it.Remember when Jessie's Dustox was leaving?Yeah,that was a bit sad,but it didn't leave you in floods of tears.
That's the power of the old Pokemon anime.It was so detailed and involving,it MADE you cry.It MADE you laugh.If they re-did that episode again in Sinnoh with Buizel,I could garuntee nobody would cry.Why?Because the anime is absolutely emotionless now.Remember Ash's Muk?It just wanted to be hugged all the time.That's what was so innocently appealing about it.Now the Pokemon don't seem to have that connection with the characters.
Back to Butterfree.I don't know how to put it into words,but I suppose the only plush toys kids have now are the Sinnoh Pokemon ones.Somewhere,in a kid's room,there is a Butterfree plush.A cute one.At one point in the late 90's that plush was played with.But now it just gets ignored.Why?Because all the innocent Pokemon get kicked out of the spotlight,never to be seen on TV again.That's why Nintendo made the Dustox leaving episode.It's just a way of saying,"goodbye Pokemon fans,after this episode I will not show myself in Sinnoh again.
I think EVERY SINGLE POKEMON THERE IS should show up in the anime now.I think a Butterfree Garden would be the most child-friendly part of the whole Anime.I think a Sanctuary for Pokemon such as Altaria and Pidgeot would be a great idea.But now the anime is all about battling,and new Pokemon.That's whats so sad.The fact that the Pokemon that were once the toys that everybody wanted,that everybody wanted to hug at night as cute plushes,are being scrapped,you could say.I have NEVER seen a Beedrill or a Nidoran or a Growlithe in the current Anime.And that,to me,and I'm sure to the rest of you,is why the anime is so bad these days.

And just look on Ebay-Pokemon figures are sold in their hundreds.But what sort are they selling?Well,mostly the first generation figures.Why?Not just because the child who played with them had grown out of them,but because the first generation Pokemon haven't been in the anime for such a long time,they've been put put in a corner.Because Shaymin is what everybody wants now.Those people who want all the new stuff just feel that Muk,and Shellder,and Butterfree aren't important anymore.And that,Pokemon Fans,is why the Anime is not how it used to be.It's the harsh fact that the original-and the best-have been pushed aside.

crying.gif Poor Butterfree---I'll always miss you!!!

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Sometimes, I just wish Ash Ketchum would DIE

First, there's the repetitive plot, which started around mid-Johto after Cianwood, then we wnet into the first fillers, then as soon as we reach hoenn, Pikachu sucks at battle, Misty is replaced by a new girl, and Brock is still travveling with Ash, it seems Brock is never tired of traveling with Ash, even tough May replaced Misty, who enjoyed travveling with ash and never got tired until her dumb blonde steryotype sisters with valley girl accents and an IQ of negative 30, not to mention that they are whiny b*tches, got in the way by leaving the gym, making Misty use all the gym pokemon whie the Waterflower sisters are nothing but shop-a-holics and can care less about taking care of a Pokemon gym because all they cared about was shopping, fashion, and cute boyfriends, god, how I HATED Misty's sisters, and how much I miss Misty

then, when we started Sinnoh, Pikachu still suckks at the beginning though he is like, level 100 now, they recycled yet another Main character (May to Dawn), who is terrible at being atrainer and has the bird starter for her main pokemon, Brock is STILL traveling with Ash, and Team Rocket STILL follows them for Pikachu, why don't they just give up and look for something worthwhile to steal, like, I duunno, THE F**KING LEGENDARIES instead of a worthless yellow rat

I just cant take this madness anymore, this is why the Pokemon Special manga is better, as it is more darker and more mature, oh, did I mention that the plotlines of the Anime are very childish, HOW ABOUT AN ACTUAL STORY FOR ONCE PEOPLE!!!!!!!

QUOTE(Damian @ Aug 18 2008, 06:39 PM) *
QUOTE(Swordsalmon @ Oct 7 2007, 07:47 PM) *
Didn't they do that already? I remember seeing an episode with an entirely different cast, with different antagonists, and was actually good!

yeah i remember that
it was pokemon chronicles with the G/S game heros
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If only they did that more often...............

QUOTE(Tiamat @ Aug 22 2008, 05:03 AM) *
Besides that, they need a completely new Pokemon series. Like, no more Ash, no more Pikachu, ect. Team Rocket can stay as cameos because they're made of Awesome and Win, but that's it. Really, it's too generic now, and we need a fresh take on the anime.


Agreed, but they should be DIFFRENT members of TR, not Jessie and James, a talking Pokemon with them is ok

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I think it's ok the way it is.

Replace Brock or Ash?
Oh yes, let's ruin the series like they did with Yu-Gi-Oh, they removed Yugi and turned the show into some crap about a card game school, nice.

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I love the anime. I think it's more about the journey than about where we get. I think the characters are fun.

I'm so glad Ash doesn't catch a ton of Pokemon, but I'm glad he changes them every season, because I love the Pokemon's stories and I think those get deeper every season.

Oh, and I think voices have nothing to do with the plot as long as they are able to express the emotion they need to.


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Ash's Pikachu should be lvl100 by now, and he still has trouble in battle? What the eff? I still ponder this.


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QUOTE(Dont smack Lugia @ Nov 14 2009, 04:22 PM) *
What I find sad is the fact that you never see any of the 'Good' Pokemon anymore.When I say the 'Good' Pokemon I mean the likes of Beedrill,Eevee,Gyarados,etc.Remember the extremely sad Butterfree episode?I haven't seen Butterfree since then,and I find that quite upsetting.Just think about it.Butterfree was an innocent thing.It was basically a butterfly.But that was what was so innocently appealing about it.Remember when Jessie's Dustox was leaving?Yeah,that was a bit sad,but it didn't leave you in floods of tears.
That's the power of the old Pokemon anime.It was so detailed and involving,it MADE you cry.It MADE you laugh.If they re-did that episode again in Sinnoh with Buizel,I could garuntee nobody would cry.Why?Because the anime is absolutely emotionless now.Remember Ash's Muk?It just wanted to be hugged all the time.That's what was so innocently appealing about it.Now the Pokemon don't seem to have that connection with the characters.
Back to Butterfree.I don't know how to put it into words,but I suppose the only plush toys kids have now are the Sinnoh Pokemon ones.Somewhere,in a kid's room,there is a Butterfree plush.A cute one.At one point in the late 90's that plush was played with.But now it just gets ignored.Why?Because all the innocent Pokemon get kicked out of the spotlight,never to be seen on TV again.That's why Nintendo made the Dustox leaving episode.It's just a way of saying,"goodbye Pokemon fans,after this episode I will not show myself in Sinnoh again.
I think EVERY SINGLE POKEMON THERE IS should show up in the anime now.I think a Butterfree Garden would be the most child-friendly part of the whole Anime.I think a Sanctuary for Pokemon such as Altaria and Pidgeot would be a great idea.But now the anime is all about battling,and new Pokemon.That's whats so sad.The fact that the Pokemon that were once the toys that everybody wanted,that everybody wanted to hug at night as cute plushes,are being scrapped,you could say.I have NEVER seen a Beedrill or a Nidoran or a Growlithe in the current Anime.And that,to me,and I'm sure to the rest of you,is why the anime is so bad these days.

And just look on Ebay-Pokemon figures are sold in their hundreds.But what sort are they selling?Well,mostly the first generation figures.Why?Not just because the child who played with them had grown out of them,but because the first generation Pokemon haven't been in the anime for such a long time,they've been put put in a corner.Because Shaymin is what everybody wants now.Those people who want all the new stuff just feel that Muk,and Shellder,and Butterfree aren't important anymore.And that,Pokemon Fans,is why the Anime is not how it used to be.It's the harsh fact that the original-and the best-have been pushed aside.

crying.gif Poor Butterfree---I'll always miss you!!!


Agreed, the last episode in Japan recently just made me want to shoot Ash dead, cause he dumped HIS BEST pokemon that was not that f**king rat, never to be seen again, I hate Ash anymore, he is such a horrible neglectful trainer

I don't just hate Ash, I hate the whole anime anymore, it just ticks me off to see characters that only care about battling and winning, than caring for thw life of others, this is the flaw of the anime, it rarely makes you laugh or cry anymore, but I found out the real reason, Nintendo is doing this to the anime to attract new younger fans, and absolutely dump and neglect older veteran fans like us, I've been a fan since generation 2, but does nintendo care, NO, they only care about the newbs, not the ones who grew up with Pokemon since the beginning......

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QUOTE(Masterge77 @ Dec 3 2009, 05:06 AM) *
it just ticks me off to see characters that only care about battling and winning, than caring for thw life of others, this is the flaw of the anime, it rarely makes you laugh or cry anymore


...Wha? I have to disagree there. IMO, Ash has actually toned down on his "CATCH AND WIN EVERYTHING!" attitude that he had at the beginning of the series. As well, a lot of the Pokemon characters (they are characters too) have deeper personalities and plot development. I mean, I'm not just an Ash's Chimchar fan because I like fire monkeys. Tears For Fears made me cry. Hard.

But anyways, I'm not just in here to be defensive. I have some critique of my own:

I love this show, but sometimes the writers feeling a NEED to put Team Rocket in every single episode gets old. They're not the main characters and sometimes they just get in the way of the plot. A lot of times they really just feel tossed in there and it devalues their character and wastes time. :/


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post Jan 9 2010, 09:24 AM
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I hate how Pikachu is like, God-mode in one episode, where it takes down big ass pokemon it normally couldn't...but then later on gets beat by weak pokemon like Elikid or whatever. Freakin' evolve already. I also hate how he just gives away his pokemon.
Also, the anime gets VERY lazy sometimes. I know they've been doing this for years but 'cmon, its 2010, get on it. Also, who gives a rats ass about pokemon contests. They're embarrassing to watch alone or even with other fans.


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My greatest fear of the anime is probably that horrid, hairy, slimy creature...

DAWN.

Oh my god, she's so retarded. Especially her voice. Everytime I hear it, I want to slam my head into my desk. noes.gif<


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