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Stem cell reaserch
Stem cell
should it be allowed
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post Apr 13 2009, 02:30 PM
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Should stem cell research be allowed. Personally I think it should be. Whether it be an aborted fetus, or a miscarriage, the fetus would just go to waste and as for religious points i can understand that you don't think it should be allowed. But if god didn't want it to happen he wouldn't let it. And as for why we could use stem cells to help people who are paralyzed to be able to walk, those who have lost limbs could have them back, damaged skin could be replaced, etc.etc.


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post Apr 13 2009, 02:35 PM
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Whether or not you're against abortion, you have to accept that the stem cells will be there either way. There will always be fetuses, either from miscarriages or abortions. Denying using them is like denying organ donors - Sure, the death might be tragic, but we might as well use it for good.


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post Apr 13 2009, 03:29 PM
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Yeah I'm for stem cell research as long as they have permission to use said fetus.


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post Apr 13 2009, 05:32 PM
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I'm all for it, as long as all parties involved agree. There are so many benefits that could come from stem-cell research that I can't see any reason not to continue.
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post Apr 13 2009, 06:26 PM
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And guess what, they don't even really have to use fetuses for it anymore. They supposedly found a way to reset skin cells to stem cell status.

I don't see what's the big controversy about it anymore. And even when the only origin for stem cells was fetuses - most stem cells can be produced from fetuses that haven't even reached the point where they're organisms of their own right, so there's not too much of an argument beyond claiming human beings are superspecialawesome and other organisms aren't. Which to me is simply being full of oneself. XD


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post Apr 19 2009, 10:13 AM
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to dys i think i saw something like that on oprah >.> not that i watch it or anything <.<


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post Apr 19 2009, 11:02 AM
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I think they should.

As for the cells just going to waste, that only applies to miscarriages and abortions.

About the god thing, I suppose that means he wants rapists and murderers to do those horrible things and get away with it?
(ps you only adressed christianity, not all religions.)

Those are all great accomplishments in the making, but the biggest reason for stem cell research is to find a cure for cancer.


@Dys: Yeah, I heard about that a while back when my mom did a report on stem cell research. It was about a year ago, but I've never heard anything since. I guess it's not a good a source as fetuses are...

That's another contoversial topic. At what point is the fetus considered a "organism of their own right"? Some say the moment of conception, while others say it's not until after a few months. Most think it's whenever it develops a working brain (though nobody remembers anything till about a year after they're born).


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post Apr 19 2009, 11:15 AM
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I totally agree. It would not only help people like my aunt. But it will help us advance into new and better technology.


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post Apr 19 2009, 11:22 AM
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I advise you edit your post before commander wymsy or the epic douche lord raven see it.


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post Apr 19 2009, 12:02 PM
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Why only us in particular? There's a good 7 people that can catch it and warn him/suspend him (which I just did hur hur ha!!!). Is it because we're the "scariest"? Congrats on breaking like two rules there, though. Calling me an epic douche with no grounds and mini-modding, the former being the only one that really matters. Enjoy a 10% warn.

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post Apr 19 2009, 03:32 PM
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As long as it was a miscarriage (I'm against any and all abortions) and the parents consent, I think stem cell research should be allowed.


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QUOTE(Lord Raven @ Apr 19 2009, 01:02 PM) *
Why only us in particular? There's a good 7 people that can catch it and warn him/suspend him (which I just did hur hur ha!!!). Is it because we're the "scariest"? Congrats on breaking like two rules there, though. Calling me an epic douche with no grounds and mini-modding, the former being the only one that really matters. Enjoy a 10% warn.

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About the God thing, not everyone believes in him.

Because you two are the only ones I know of. No, not the scariest, wymsy sounds pretty cool. What's mini-modding? I was just telling him to hurry up and delete it before he gets banned. Nothing wrong with that. I will. I was expecting that anyway. happy.gif


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That's technically mini-modding, but the way you said it made it seem like a genuine thing of advice more than mini-modding which is why I let you off for it. But this is not the place to discuss that.


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QUOTE(Dys Tuvai @ Apr 13 2009, 04:26 PM) *
And guess what, they don't even really have to use fetuses for it anymore. They supposedly found a way to reset skin cells to stem cell status.


Indeed, to an extent. I need to fine the articles, but scientists have found a way for adult stem cells and testicular cells to behave similarly to embryotic stem cells. In addition, cells found in the umbilical cord also have similar properties, so there's a number of sources for ethical stem cells. I'll go look for the articles and edit this post immediately.

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According to latest reports, however, this dogma of developmental biology does not hold. Evidently, tissue-specific stem cells have the ability–as has been impressively demonstrated in experiments with animals–to "transdifferentiate" themselves when in a different environment–that is, to take on the cell functions of the new tissue. Thus, neuronal stem cells of mice have transformed themselves into blood stem cells and produced blood cells. Indeed, there are indications of another capability of adult stem cells: Apparently they have the potential to be "reprogrammed." Not only can they adjust to the specific conditions of a new tissue environment, but they can even assume more generalized, earlier levels of development, so that it even appears possible that they become totipotent again.


Anyways, I'm in favour or stem cell research. I do believe it is unethical to concieve and then abort an embryo for the sole purpose of extracting the cells, as the embyro has unique DNA and is will become a unique individual. However, using stem cells from miscarriages and unused embryos from fertility clinics would be a better alternative. This is mainly because the embyro in question will most likely die after implantation, and a moral question of lesser evils to me.

I am very excited about the advancements to improve adult cells and replace embryotic stem cells. Then we can better find cures to various ailments while avoiding a possible moral issue. ^_^.gif

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im a bit torn, although im mostly biased toward allowing it. i mean it will help/cure many different diseases/ disabilities, but i think the big thing is that some people purposfully just sell them so they can get money, not for any other reason. i just hope(like said a few times before) that the alternate method works, then practically everyone will be with it.


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Go for it. If it helps my grandfather recover from Alzheimers and cures my brother's diabetes, then I'm all for it.
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I don't see a problem with it. =3 It's kind of like recycling... Why not use fetus cells for good, especially if the fetus has no chance? (Miscarriage or abortion, obviously.)


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I'm for it. I had a friend that might have benefited from it if it hadn't been blocked sad.gif


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QUOTE(Chrona @ Apr 13 2009, 03:35 PM) *
Whether or not you're against abortion, you have to accept that the stem cells will be there either way. There will always be fetuses, either from miscarriages or abortions. Denying using them is like denying organ donors - Sure, the death might be tragic, but we might as well use it for good.


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It think it should be allowed because if the person gets all sad they might commit suicide or become emo.


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