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Posted by: Ghost Flame Jan 29 2010, 11:49 AM

Since the dawn of of time, most of man-kind was a God complex so strong, they continue to play around with DNA just because they think they can. If you've seen a single sci-fi movie involving scientist and animals,( Jurassic Park, Deep Blue Sea,etc.), you know how well that works out. To conclude my ranting; what if that were to happen in Pokemon? Who would win, the original champion geneticly engineered to strike fear to trainers back in days of old? Or the divine new commer that can become any type it wants? And...If you are willing... Can you put your money where your mouth is in one-on-one combat?

Posted by: Ghost Flame Jan 29 2010, 12:01 PM

Personally, I say it's a tie. Arceus is the ovrall most powerfull pokemon around, was better Def.( both), was a wider move poll, and can change type with the plates. However, Mewtwo was a montser Spec. Attack, slightly faster, can reduce Arceus's attacks with pressure, and if Arceus was the wroung plate(s) on, the outlook is not so good for Arceus. I'm not trying to be impartial, its just a not clear to me yet.

Posted by: FancyGranola Jan 29 2010, 12:24 PM

I'd say Arceus just because he looks 10 times better. Any Pokemon can totally beat each other with proper set up.

Posted by: gabite92 Feb 9 2010, 07:42 PM

would most likely win scince it can turn int a dark type which is super affective against psychic types,but
can learn fighting type attacks aswell,so its a mystery to who would win until they battle.

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 9 2010, 07:52 PM

Mewtwo would PWN the noob. Pokemon ust keep getting more and more god like and Arceus was taken way too far. Mewtwo and Mew are the original. Plus compare the Mewtwo movie to Arceus's movie. Mewtwo's uncut movie had murder, blood and the death of his friend Ai. Pokemon has become to Lovey Dovey and the pokemon would never stand a chance against the original bad@$$

Mewtwo>Arceus anyday

Plus you all seem to forget Arceus got hurt by a Pikachu. Now that's just pathetic...

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 12 2010, 06:33 PM

Hinata, I explained it to you before, arceus only got hurt cause he didn't have his plates. It would be close but arceus would win, this isn't going off favorites either. Arceus can be any type it wants, has better stats, and moves. Also, I nearly fell asleep during the first movie. The 12th I didn't even pause it.

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 12 2010, 06:37 PM

But that's just it! Arcues is useless without those bloody plates!

Arceus doesn't stand a chance because no move can hit him. Arceus can try as many dark type moves as he likes. He would never be able to hit him. Not just the fact that Mewtwo is stronger but his faster too. He is more agile and can dodge all his attacks easily while throwing his own. I'm sorry ARCEUS but comparing a noob to any of the original 151 is just fail

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 14 2010, 04:41 AM

This. Mewtwo is a creature that could probably collapse your windpipes without looking at you, providing Pokemon wasn't as child-friendly.

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 18 2010, 01:27 AM

Just let me point out that without arceus (according to nintendo's legend) there wouldn't be anything, thus, no mewtwo. You realize you can't compare GOD to something that (for once wasn't made in china) was made in a lab, you just can't. Oh and THE PLATES NEVER LEAVE.....anymore.... So any move mewtwo used wouldn't do anything either.

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 18 2010, 01:38 AM

Mewtwo wouldn't need to make a move. he would simply look at Arceus and he'd drop dead. You seem to forget that Mewtwo is an original while Arceus is a noob. Yes, while he technically was created before Mewtwo in the legends he was still made after in the wimpy kiddy pokemon where everything is all lovey dovey. Mewtwo actually killed. And any attacks towards Mewtwo is instantly blocked. Plus they screwed up with Arceus, Mew was the first. BEFORE Arceus. And Mewtwo was created on her genes. Face it, Mew and Mewtwo are the ultament creatures fighters. Arceus is fail

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 18 2010, 02:32 AM

I think it's only Shinno's legend. To me it seems like they're playing with different regions have different ideas on how things came to be.
And remember, legends aren't 100% true, they're pretty much theories.
Mewtwo doesn't need silly plates to be powerful. Thing is, Mewtwo doesn't need to do moves. The creature's mind will shut down vital life functions before Arceus would even move.

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 18 2010, 03:27 AM

Who cares whether they're original or not that has nothing to do with it, you also seem to let the "ZOMG MEWTWO'S TEH BEST FAN" blind you, honestly, I like shaymin, latias and mewtwo over arceus but I'm not letting that sway my opinion. Also, mewtwo couldn't do that (look at something and kill it). My opinion's based on the legends through ALL the games, think about it, what if mew and arceus came from the same egg? that's my conclusion. BUT that wouldn't make mewtwo the god you think he is, that'd just make mewtwo one BIG FAKE, not that mewtwo isn't already. DON'T BE BLINDED BY FANDOM (I'm not, I told you how in that post) If mewtwo could just look at something and kill it, then why didn't he do that to mew?

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 18 2010, 03:37 AM

Because Mew is his equal! I don't think you get it. Arceus is one big blood Mary Sue. He is pathetic weak and would not stand a chance against the most powerful pokemon. Old School beats New School. That is how it is. And yes, Mewtwo can kill with a look. Have you even seen the uncut version? I doubt you have because he did. And I'm not blinded by fandom. Seriously? I feel sorry that you think that anything from the forth gen is even worth it. Arceu is slow, weak. Mewtwo would is fast, powerful, he was going to destroy the world and Arceus couldn't do a thing about it. Mewtwo came from a tormented past has a blood thirst to kill if necessary. Arceus does not. Mewtwo would kill Arceus

Posted by: JohnRichard1991 Feb 18 2010, 04:31 AM

I prefer Arceus over Mewtwo, personally.
Mewtwo isn't a bad pokemon within itself, but I never felt that it was all that special.
I'm not saying Arceus is special, I just like him better.

Also, Mewtwo isn't a god. Mewtwo is a clone of Mew, it's as simple as that.

Posted by: Eclipse Absol Feb 18 2010, 04:35 AM

Arceus.

Even I know how awesome Mewtwo is, Arceus is a GOD.

He could waggle his finger, (Okay, I know Arceus has no fingers!) and Mewtwo would teleport away to the nearest black hole. Mewtwo would be PWNED by that blackhole.

...Or Mewtwo has secretly hidden his mad ninja skills from us... -shot-

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 18 2010, 04:38 AM

@ hinata: You make me laugh, mewtwo is NOT the most powerful pokemon. If mewtwo can kill with a look how come he didn't kill ash, why didn't he kill the other pokemon? he had his clones. Honestly, common sense here please. Besides, I beat mewtwo with a flippen VENASAUR in fire red. Sorry, if I nearly fell asleep during the first movie cut version, then what makes the uncut version any better? i'm not into blood and gore so I'll probably fall asleep during that as well.
I understand why our opinions are different, pokemon never really got my liking till sinnoh and you like the original so of course we'll exaggerate things to try to look better. Reality is, every legend represents something unique, mewtwo and arceus are totally different and there's more than just speed and strength needed to win a battle. They can't be compared, just like the regions, they're all unique. Comparing arceus and mewtwo is like riakou and entei, no clear outright winner.
Oh, and the old school> new school thing? MACHINE GUNS BEAT SWORDS ANY DAY.

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 18 2010, 05:01 AM

ARCEUS, really, you don't get it. Mewtwo was made to be perfection. He was created from the genes of the first pokemon and given more powers to destroy what he wants. He became unstable because of the death of Ai and killed those who made him. He is the ultament being whether you see it or not.
Arceus was pathetic. Watching pokemon nowdays and those things they call movies. Pokemon has changed. You watch, next gen they will bring in a stronger pokemon then Arceus. What's the bet sooner or later there will be a pokemon who created Arceus?
No, Mew was the first and Mewtwo after her. Mewtwo's statistics in the games are also higher then Arceus. If Mewtwo can destroy the world that Arceus created then what happens then? Arceus does nothing. He's weak. The whole needing plates to be strong is pathetic. I'm sorry ARCEUS but you're wrong here. Mewtwo and Mew were the first and still the best.

And why didn't Mewtwo kill Ash? When Ash jumped in front of the attacks he stopped. He didn't kill him because he felt no need to (plus the show would be over)
1st Gen always beats 4th Gen

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 18 2010, 05:20 AM

Pokemon has modernized, like everything else, what was cool then isn't so now. They may seem soft but remember how much shit storm 1 minute can cause so they have to be careful.
Mewtwo was the ultimate life form eh? WHAT ABOUT SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG. HE is an ultimate life form, HE nearly died, NO ultimate life form is truly ultimate- that's just a name they're given to make them intimidating and seem perfect. As I said before, you CAN'T compare GOD to a random creation with a slightly intimidating name.
Just like regions, what was possible in the past isn't the same today. (I would love that movie if ash died) I honestly think arceus didn't need to use its plates in movie 12 but he has the plates, they're a part of him, the plates ARE arceus. Mewtwo isn't as strong as you think, arceus isn't that strong either, it's easy to make that mistake. Also, pokemon would get boring if everything looked like dratini or eevee so of course they had to change but nothing you say will change anything.

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 18 2010, 06:17 AM

Because it was intended for children.


Mewtwo could do the same thing.


And because it was intended for children.


Why not? For being man-made, Mewtwo is rather God-like. This is God versus God.

Posted by: Rchicken31 Feb 18 2010, 06:59 AM

Now it's time for my two cents...
Personally I refuse to believe Acreus was a god pokemon mainly since that spot has always belonged to Mew and really they never confirmed the legend so for all we know he could just be the controller of elements (Would make a lot more sense) and even if he was the god the legend claims him to be Mewtwo would still win mainly since like you said ARCEUS "machine guns beat the swords" well if the legend was true Acreus is the oldest pokemon alive and of course the sword while Mewtwo is newly created species of pokemon who is of course the machine gun.

Posted by: Crimson Tiger Feb 18 2010, 07:01 AM

wouldn't this be better as a poll?

and personally, Either would win.

Posted by: evilslaughter Feb 18 2010, 10:51 PM

The only thing arceus is only good because it change its type......mostly mewtwo is better in my opinion because he was the only Pokemon created by men and turned into a rouge douchebag

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 19 2010, 12:24 AM

Well, at school today I asked my friend, now about her: She's a johto fan and doesn't really like sinnoh, has played the games from the start and played almost every pokemon game. She knows much more than me. Her answer? arceus would win.
Uh, the machine gun beats sword thing was Mewtwo= (old school) sword. arceus= (new school) gun.

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 19 2010, 06:28 PM

That's if you're going by the numerical order, yes. But, if you want to go by Pokemon legends, then Arceus is the sword, since he supposedly created everything, and Mewtwo would be the gun, since he was created by man, which, you know, came after Arceus.

Big Cat versus Goat... Big Cat wins

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 19 2010, 06:40 PM

Arceus isn't that powerful. He can change to dark type and attack mewtwo with all him might, Mewtwo can still block it. Plus he is much more faster and can throw multiple attacks while Arceus could never keep up. Plus the fact that Mewtwo's psychic abilities are so powerful that he can kill in an instant. ARCEUS, you're wrong on this matter. Mewtwo was made on the FIRST pokemon's DNA, Mew. Mew came before Arceus. That's just how it is. Plus in the movie Mewtwo decided not to use him extra abilities against Mew to show he could win without them only to find they were equal. Now add back on all those powers he originally had before then and Mewtwo would of won. Plus ad on the fact that Mewtwo is a much more bloodthirsty pokemon.
Arceus doesn't stand a chance. Mewtwo is obviously the gun here

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 20 2010, 04:56 AM

I love the mewtwo superfan coming out here, sorry, EG: mewtwo vs dialga: Dia stops time, mewtwo gets pwned, the END (THAT'S something mewtwo CAN'T avoid, I know you'll say he can but your wrong, so don't). arceus vs dialga: arceus pwns dia in 3-4 hits. Hinata, you specifically said old school> new school: old school= kanto- mewtwo. new school= sinnoh- arceus. Thus, arceus= gun, mewtwo= sword, nuff said. Nintendo's current story clearly states arceus came first, it's time to stop living in the past* (*kanto)
Arceus isn't a goat, it's SPACE GOAT thank you very much, there's a BIG difference.

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 20 2010, 06:35 AM

What does Dialga have to do with any of this? This is Mewtwo versus Arceus, not Mewtwo versus Dialga.
If you haven't noticed, each region seems to have their own myths. Kanto goes by all Pokemon came from Mew, and Shinnoh goes by Arceus creating them all.

As for your gun/sword thing, let's make it clear if we're going in numerical order or by order of creation.
Cat>Space Goat

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 20 2010, 07:17 AM

What? Nothing you said then ARCEUS even made any sense to the topic on hand. Incase you didn't read it, this is Mewtwo verses Arceus, not Dialga.
And everything I stated before was fact. Matter of fact, you didn't even rebuttal then. You just lost my friend

And yes, Mew came BEFORE Arceus. Mew came before all pokemon which was also stated. Admit it, you have no facts to back you up. I stated why Mewtwo would win: speed, power, unmeasurable psychic abilities, blood thirst, shield.
What's your fact? Arceus created them all. Ha, that wasn't even confirmed.

So what you're saying is if it created it then it would beat it? Man can create a bomb. Bomb Vs Man, who would win? Based on your way of thinking, man would Actually, man created Mewtwo. Mewtwo still killed them with ease.

Like I said, Mewtwo is more powerful and would win this fight

Oh, and stop living in the past? For one that has nothing to do with the case other then being insulting. And without the past there is no present.


Also is it just me or are you completely ignoring Unholy Shadow? Because they have brought up some extremely good points.

Posted by: Xal Feb 20 2010, 07:28 AM

Mewtwo was the most awesomely powerful pokémon (besides Mew, arguably) when pokémon was at its prime. Arceus is just another manifestation of the series being horribly butchered. Mewtwo would win, for ever.

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 20 2010, 04:38 PM

And don't forget, Mewtwo can also use Me First c:

Posted by: ARCEUS Feb 20 2010, 11:47 PM

There was a point in my post that is related to the topic, you just didn't read my full post properly. DIA> mewtwo. arceus> dia. therefore, arceus> mewtwo. Mew is the original doesn't even have the facts to back it up. It can transform, wow, so can your everyday ditto. Wow, mew's the apparent ancestor (I think that's the wrong word) of pokemon? I have them, THEY DIDN'T CREATE EVERYTHING. The past affects too many people these days, it should be forgotten, I did and I feel much better As said before, it's just legends, so there's no proof mew came first either, or of mew's legends. Does mew live in the middle of the universe? I don't think so.
One reason people think mew came first is cause it's a psychic type (I've seen it), that doesn't mean anything, same with mewtwo. All cause it's got the name psychic people think it's all powerful.
I'm not ignoring unholy shadow, you both sound like parrots (are saying the same thing) so it's to both of you.

I can't wait to see if nintendo decide to make up another "creator" (that includes mew and arceus), now THAT'S gonna start off a shit storm if they do.

I believe only the 3 dragons have enough to prove their legends.

Posted by: Hinata Hyuuga Feb 21 2010, 12:06 AM

I'm guessing you don't do much debating do you? You have lost this one. And if either of us is sounding loke a broken record it's you. Plus, me fangirling? If you didn't notice I stated my opinions and you jumped down my throught and attacked me. no, you're the fangirl here.
Back to topic: Mewtwo>Dialga (not that it even matters)
Mew came before Arceus. Plain and simple. Mew created pokemon which is way she can transform into them all. Mew created attacks which is why she can learn them all.
I have stated the facts here but you're own blindness on the matter is astounding. Once again, you ignore the factors.
I say Mewtwo is faster, you have no rebuttal to that
I say Mewtwo is stronger, you have no rebuttal to that either
I say Mewtwo can kill with a look, you argue that you haven't seen the uncut so you refuse to acknowledge it
There is no point in continuing to argue with you because you refuse to see the facts. Mew and Mewtwo are the most powerful and no amount of your fangirling will change that. You haven't given one single reason why Arceus would win other then "he created them all". Arceus didn't create Mew, Arceus didn't create Mewtwo.
I have given reasons why Mewtwo would win which you ignored.

Really ARCEUS, do you not see you're losing? You started losing once you got over emotional about it. And no amount of "nahah! Arceus would win" can change that.

Posted by: Rchicken31 Feb 21 2010, 12:29 AM

Oh ya can I add another flaw to ARCEUS's logic
You put "mewtwo vs dialga: Dia stops time, mewtwo gets pwned, the END. arceus vs dialga: arceus pwns dia in 3-4 hits" but wait that doesn't make sense mainly since you added logic for how Mewtwo would lose but yet no logic for how Acreus would win?
I mean how the hell would Acreus get 3-4 for hits in considering Dialga could also just stop time and do the same thing it could do to Mewtwo.

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 21 2010, 12:39 AM

They say Mew contains all the DNA of Pokemon today. That alone should be enough to prove that all Pokemon came from Mew. They never said Mew created all Pokemon, just they all came from Mew. How that was is open for interpretation.
IIRC, Ditto can't make perfect copies of what it transforms into.


You should be able to tell from the uncut version. When Mewtwo lifted whateverhisnamewas, the water Pokemon trainer into the air, it looked like Mewtwo was trying to strangle him ah haha.


And you sir, (or mam?) sound like a broken record.

So riddle me this, what will Arceus do to Mewtwo that will give it the win? Myself and Hyuuga have stated that Mewtwo will use its powers to shut down Arceus's vitals.
What will Arceus do before Mewtwo can do this? And don't give me "Dialga will stop time" because even Dialga likes Mewtwo better because this is a one on one fight, Mewtwo versus Arceus. Because if Arceus can call in Dialga, Mewtwo can call in Dialga Clone Mew.

Posted by: Xal Feb 21 2010, 08:12 AM

You know, when your criticism of someone's argument is "I did have an argument in there, you just didn't dig through the whole post carefully enough" you should probably just back off

That logic doesn't even make sense. In an equal battle Squirtle would beat Charmander, and Charmander would beat Bulbasaur. To put it your way, Squirtle>Charmander, Charmander>Bulbasaur. By your logic Squirtle would beat Bulbasaur.


Nothing in here makes any sense. Literally nothing. First things first, Mew as the original does have facts to back it up. It itself is a fact. Mew is the ancestor of all pokemon (and yes, of course that's the right word, if you don't think it is then you don't know what ancestor means).
And letting go of the past? What are you talking about? You mean because Mew and Mewtwo are part of the original 151 the facts about them should just be ignored? No, that's ridiculous. If your argument is that Arceus would win so long as you ignore everything about Mewtwo and Mew then you may as well just give up.
If Mew's legends can be ignored, so can Arceus'. As you said, it's just legends. Mew's, however, are far more realistic.


Even if you haven't just come up with that off the top of your head it has no relevance to anyone here. I may as well say "I've seen people think Arceus came first cos he leik teh mudkips."


I'd quite like to see your response to Unholy Shadow though, how would Arceus win?

Posted by: Chu Chu Feb 22 2010, 07:19 PM

id say arceus would win cuz if you look at his stats on pokemon.com theyre maxed out. also about the plates it all depends if its game realted where he can hold only one or anime related where he has all of them.

Posted by: Unholy Shadow Feb 22 2010, 08:51 PM

According to Serebii's (sp?) list, Mewtwo was there before, as it is ranked No. 2.
If we are going anime however, please read my last post where I mentioned shutting down of vital functions.

Posted by: IceColdGlaceon Feb 25 2010, 02:07 PM

I would definitely say Mewtwo. He's stronger, can read minds through Telepathy, he is faster, can block moves with his own and basically is unbeatable.

Posted by: Lord Cybertron Mar 1 2010, 08:40 PM

Stalemate. Both can block attacks, both ca control Pokemon to help, and both can destroy the world.

Posted by: gnome Apr 15 2010, 08:21 PM

Mewtwo would just keep summoning his pokeclones to fight arceus. Its a matter of time before he makes a clone arceus to fight arceus. Like in the first movie. =)

Mewtwo is smarter, so it wins.

Posted by: Silvair Apr 15 2010, 09:26 PM

MEWTWO PWNS. Heck, he's Psychic. And he has an army of EVIL CLONES TOO.

...okay, heck, Arceus looks better but still.

Posted by: Captain Holifax Apr 29 2010, 09:23 PM

Mewtwo would be the Kratos in this situation.

Posted by: Lazy Trainer May 6 2010, 09:22 AM

Arceus.

Sure Mewtwo can just be all 'LOL WINDPIPES BYE" but Arceus probably doesn't HAVE those.
And Arceus can just erase Mewtwo out of existance. Or be like, "HEY DIALGA. FETUS TIEM."

Posted by: Unholy Shadow May 7 2010, 07:00 PM

lol this
Wills himself back to life if he dies.

Posted by: steelTitan Jul 24 2010, 06:10 PM

They would tie.
Mewtwo=Arceus

Posted by: Breeder Drew Aug 13 2010, 11:03 PM

Quoted for truth.

Posted by: AndrewOverload519 Aug 16 2010, 12:07 PM

It's a tie breaker. Both Pokémon are quite capable of killing each other if they have to.

As for the argument over wether Mew or Arceus came first... it's all complete bullcrap to me. In fact, the more I read this thread, the harder I laugh.

The origins of both Mew and Arceus are simply theories. Let me say that again, THEORIES. There is no solid proof behind them, in-universe or otherwise. Oh, and I don't even care about what's been said in the anime or movies since I'm not even that interested in them anymore.

Going by that logic, you might as well say that Bulbasaur is God because it's the first entry in the Pokédex. Or you could say that Chuck Norris is, because he said so. Or maybe even Ash's Pikachu, because it appeared in every single goddamn episode!

Seriously, it's like The Big Bang VS God all over again, but in a fictional universe. A fictional universe where all buildings are like TARDISes from the inside out, a fictional universe that has cute fluffy bird Pokémon that can somehow be Dragon type, and that same fictional universe where you can literally carry hundreds of items, including a BICYCLE, in a medium sized bag. What's the point?

My point being is that Arceus and Mew (and therefore, Mewtwo) are no better than each other. Sure, you might like to think that Mewtwo is better than Arceus because "MEWTWO IZ ORIGINAL, ARCEUS IZ A N00B!1!!11" or even the other way round, but in reality the argument is just not worth it.

Try and be defensive if you must, but I clearly won this argument. I should know, I am (almost) like a walking legendary Pokémon encyclopaedia.

I'm sorry if I was acting like a complete jerkface in this thread, but I felt that it must be done.

Posted by: FancyGranola Aug 16 2010, 12:22 PM

Way to ruin a great debate on the created versus the creator. AndrewOverload519, there isn't a need to be sorry because right now, it is sorry enough that you try to change the argument so that you can gorge yourself on that ego of yours. I hate it when people think they are much more superior than others and come up with a conclusion that could have been easily concocted by a lobotomized amoeba. It's people like you that really need to just shut up.

Everyone here knows about Pokemon. This is a Pokemon forum.

You just simply bedazzled this argument:


It's absolutely annoying when someone comes along and stomps on everyone else argument. This is a debate... About Pokemon. If it seems simply stupid to you, then do not post unless you have a decent idea to back one side up.

Posted by: AndrewOverload519 Aug 16 2010, 01:43 PM

I am not trying be superior to anyone, at least I think I'm not. In fact, I consider myself as being equal as everyone else. I also don't think Pokémon is stupid at all. Sure, it makes no sense at times, but definately not stupid.

Now that you mentioned it, I really shouldn't have typed my previous post in that sort of manner...

I might have even been too defensive when it comes to debates about legendary Pokémon...

God, I hate myself sometimes.

Anyway, we should get back on topic before this thread derails into a flame war.

Posted by: ShadowOak Aug 29 2010, 10:56 PM

I'd have to say its a tie for me, they both have advantages and are both so very powerful.
Then again it also depends on what type Arceus is at the time.

Posted by: Felly Aug 29 2010, 11:13 PM

Arceus. It has the ability to change into whatever type it wants to, so it could easily change into a Dark type and dominate Mewtwo with just a few well powered Dark type moves. Not to mention Arceus is the God of all Pokemon.

Posted by: FancyGranola Oct 24 2010, 01:46 AM

Mewtwo is utterly amazing now. Psycho Break will kill Blissey. It's going to be one of the best mixed sweepers out there. I think that's why Justice Heart was created, for more Mewtwo destruction and more nerfing of Darkrai.

Posted by: okpo Apr 28 2011, 02:55 PM

I think Arceus would win

Posted by: Aurora6 Apr 30 2011, 01:48 AM

Arceus, it can learn any TM and HM

Posted by: cubonex Jul 6 2011, 03:29 AM

mewtwo would win in the show he could just clone arceus then use the clone he doesn't need to lift a finger to win


but in the game 50 50 chance

Posted by: Shinzu Jul 6 2011, 01:06 PM

Mewtwo was created to be as strong, or stronger, than Arceus himself. Or. What they thought was god back then. I think it would be a tough battle between them, but I personally think Arceus would win. He could destroy a universe if he wanted, and everything inside.

On the games...that's another topic. XDD

Posted by: Cradily Jul 10 2011, 06:39 AM

i have never really liked mewtwo that much, i have always LOVED Arceus ever since i first saw it

Mewtwo used Machines to attack, not itself. Arceus used ONLY itself no help from anyone or anything

Mewtwo is just lazy. i dont think it is a pokemon at all really
it is a copy of Mew, a COPY. it may have Psychic powers but Arceus has all powers.
Arceus could just blow it up on the spot. Arceus is GOD, Mewtwo is a COPY.
How can you expect Mewtwo to beat Arceus without its machines or "Dark Balls"?

The Games are different, but Arceus can just turn into ghost with its plate so Psychic is normal and fighting is useless

Thats all i have to say Thank you

P.S. im sorry if i have offended any Mewtwo Fans but what i have to say, is true