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[Lord Raven]

Compoundeyes is an ability that means that if the Pokemon in the lead of the party has this ability, the chance of finding an item attached to a wild Pokemon is doubled.

So, if I go up against a Bibarel, the chance of finding an Oran Berry attached is doubled, right?

Great. Now, I want to utilise this to get a Lucky Egg from a Chansey.

However...according to other sites, Chansey has a 50% chance of holding an Oval Stone and a 5% chance of holding a Lucky Egg.

So if you double those, that means that 100% of Chansey will hold Oval Stone while only 10% will hold a Lucky...Egg...

Hang on - 100% of Chansey hold an Oval Stone? If every single Chansey I encounter will hold an Oval Stone, what of the 10%? Do you see my problem? If ALL Chanseys are holding Oval Stone, there's no room for the Lucky Egg-wielding ones.

Is this assumption correct? Or am I being silly? Is there still a chance I'll find a Lucky Egg Chansey?

Thanks for your help~

This is from a friend. How does this work, exactly?

[Gati]

Interesting... I searched it a bit and found the following question; "For wild pokemon with more than one possible held item, does compoundeyes also increase the odds of the item being rare?" Someone else answered; "No, just increases the possibility of each item to be held."

So maybe the chances of finding an item held by a Pokémon just increases, meaning that you will still catch a Chansey with either item but an Oval Stone is more likely to appear than a Lucky Egg.
Hope this helps.

[Lord Raven]

To be honest, that doesn't even hit the precision I want/need for the question to be answered. Did you even read the predicament? Oval Stones are in 50% of all Chanseys, and Compoundeyes doubles this. So now it's 100%. But Lucky Egg is held 5% of the time, so what of the 10% chance of getting a Lucky Egg?

My theory, and this probably helps just as much as your comment, is that it happens 10/11 times for the Oval Stone and 1/11 for the Lucky Egg. But the details are very sketchy.

[Gati]

Hmm... Maybe nothing will help and it might be more confusing if someone (like me) tries to explain. And I did read all of it.

But I think this percentage thing is the one that is confusing. I think of it like attacks, many attacks have 100% accuracy but that doesn't mean that the attack will always hit... I don't know is hard to explain

[Lord Raven]

In RSE onwards, it will always hit if it's 100% accuracy.

In GSC/RBY, there was a glitch that gave it a 1/255 (or 256? it rounds off to 99.6% accuracy) chance of missing, and I believe that's what you're referring to.

[Gati]

Oh Sorry about that, didn't know about that glitch, no wonder some missed and third gen. is my weakest gen.

Now about the ability, is a freaking mystery... Have you tried catching a or some Chanseys with the "Compoundeyes" ability... I want to see for myself now with this damn ability, I'll try it myself and see what happens.

[Tuketi]

I understand your problem, but I can confirm that they can still have a Lucky Egg even with Compoundeyes. I think, like you said, it turns into something like 1/11... I guess you can't think of the numbers as literally as they seem, or something.

[Dar Ksereth]

i believe that the chances of a pokemon holding the item becomes 110%, and then it runs another formula based on the 10 to 1 ratio to determine which of the 2 items will be held.

i dunno if that's correct, since i just made that up, but seems logical

This post has been edited by Dar Ksereth: Jun 7 2009, 01:36 AM