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Posted by: Zerxer Sep 30 2009, 10:46 PM

Update Canceled

In one week, on October 7th, a new system will be put into place that will monitor people's parties for eggs they've had for too long. There's a couple of reasons for this, but the one that makes the most official sense is that eggs need nourishment and if you can't provide it to them in a reasonable amount of time, they need to be taken away so another user can have a shot at it.

What will happen is they will be sent to the shelter. And of course, if they're not adopted within 3 days, they will be gone forever. The amount of time required to hatch them will depend on the maximum maturity the egg needs and, unless changed before then, will range from 3 to 25 days. This range is tentative, but the amount is still being worked out along with getting extra time during each stage (crack) of the egg.

This is yet another big update, like the whole validation fiasco (where unvalidated accounts were given one week to validate before we deleted them all), and we don't want to give people reason to complain that we didn't warn them again. So this announcement is being posted here, with a link at the top of GPXPlus and on the Twitter. It's up to all of you to alert your friends who might be avoiding the site for one reason or another to hatch their eggs if they have anything they really want to keep.

The first run of this new system will affect the most accounts, obviously, so the site might be disabled for a short amount of time on the 7th so it can run uninterrupted with the least amount of lag. I've changed my mind. The countdown for all eggs will start on the 7th, meaning eggs that are already really old will not be instantly affected by this on the 7th. However, the site will still be turned offline temporarily while the system inputs the starting countdown for every egg.

EDIT: Also, eggs that are ready to be hatched will not be affected by this.

Please don't do something stupid like abandon all of your Pokémon and leave the site because of this announcement. The idea isn't even 100% thought up yet, and is definitely bound to change. We will make sure we do as much as we can to implement this AND keep people safe and happy who still come on the site, if only once a week.

Read the last post in this thread.

Posted by: Jam Sep 30 2009, 11:53 PM

I know the latest update says you guys are going to take away eggs that can't be 'provided' for and hatched in a timely manner. But I was wondering, what happens if you're in college and can only get on so much but try your hardest to get the eggs hatched in a timely manner but those people that click you back or click you first only one click on one egg, and likely NOT the one you want clicked on most even if you do state it.

Does that mean even though we're trying to hatch our eggs that we're screwed? I'm sorry but that's what I'm getting from this and I... I'm not sure how 3-25 days for people that go to school almost 12-7 and work another 4-7 are going to have this be fair to them. Even if they are working as hard as they can to hatch the eggs... some will just be loosing all the time they spent trying to hatch the egg and more might even lose interest because of this. I know I've got one event egg from last month's event I'm TRYING to hatch and it just seems to take forever because while I have it on other sites in my signature and keep clicking things I get A LOT of one clicks and it just doesn't go very fast in general. I know some people are Super popular and can get them hatched in 3 days or 25 days...

but what about the people that aren't or don't have that much time but still really want to hatch the egg....?

I know this is my first ever like Legendary egg... and to hear now that I'm going to loose it because I have college; and other things to keep me from putting in a lot of time even though I'm trying to hatch it, just kind of ... idk...

It feels like a site I play for fun and novelty of it is just taking that away and it feels like I shouldn't even bother with the eggs anymore unless I have no life and have all day to poke at people's eggs...

I didn't really know where else to post this because that topic is locked....

Posted by: Admiral Cereus Oct 1 2009, 12:32 AM

The reason why that system is implemented is mainly due to people just only logging on to get the bloody event eggs and vanishing, leaving the core players with nothing. I am a mass clicker so I can see trends occurring when I click. Trends don't lie and quite frankly speaking- I am sick of seeing people just log on to get the event and never log on until the next event. A lot of core players were screwed out of stuff from Sept's event mainly because it was stuff that everyone wanted. Especially Jirachi and Primal Dialga.

The higher the maturity the more time you have to hatch them. It doesn't take that long to get a 5120 egg hatched even for a normal person who gets on average 300 clicks a day. 25 days for a legendary is more than generous. They took into account of college and real life getting in the way. But seriously- even with a craptastic connection and or computer you can still get about 300 a day and chances are- you will get clicks back.

If you have a somewhat so so connection and computer using stuff like snap links, tab kit, keyboard commands such as ctrl tab to move one tab forward, ctrl shift tab to move one tab back, ctrl shit w to close out all tabs/unprotected tabs (depends if you have tab kit or not) then clicking is NOT an issue.

People are just lazy or generally selfish and I for one am glad that this system is in place. It allows for people to be more active and for less people to be so selfish about event eggs and the like.

Posted by: Lemons Oct 1 2009, 12:40 AM

Honestly, I'm a little iffy on it. I go through the online list at least once or twice a day and snaplinks click quite a few people at once, and most times only half of them click back, if I'm lucky.

I hatched an eevee egg about half an hour ago. I've had that egg since the 14th, and even with mass clicking the online list once or twice a day every two to three days, it still took me this long to hatch it.

I average hatching one to maybe three eggs a week even with mass clicking, because no matter how many people I click, I just never seem to get enough clicks in one day to get more than 1-200 maturity on an egg.

Ionno. Maybe I'm just biased because it takes me so long to hatch eggs.

Posted by: Admiral Cereus Oct 1 2009, 12:43 AM

If you find the online list iffy then try clicking people who have shown activity within the past five minutes or so. I tend to do that a lot and get a fair majority of clicks back. Also try out some of the mass clickers on the stats page and their pal pads. Those are pretty reliable as well. There are a lot of different options to get faster clicks back and I personally find those the most reliable.

Posted by: Spiikkie Oct 1 2009, 12:52 AM

My very first legendary it took me a little over a month to hatch (i'm sure the same with others), and thats when i clicked fairly well. Now, My computer is slower, and i'm only getting like 5-20 clicks per day. And thats the case (i'm sure) with other people too. And yes, what about school and work? It's not like you get one egg one day and before its even hatched you lose it to the shelter.






~Spiikkie

Posted by: Adriana88 Oct 1 2009, 01:06 AM

Try clicking online list a little more often.At least that is what I do.I go to online list, click somebody from it, then I go again to online list and click him or her again, and I do that all the time.Not just 2-3 times.

Posted by: Schala Oct 1 2009, 01:10 AM

Honestly, I'm less worried about the number of clicks (though I don't usually get that many) than I am about things like computer/internet problems and extended periods without internet access.

Say you're fairly active, and you're lucky enough to get an event egg that you really wanted. You're well on your way to hatching it, and you won't have a problem getting it hatched within the time limit. Then, your router starts acting up, and suddenly you're without internet. You spend some time trying to fix it, and then have to resort to buying a new one. By the time you get your internet working, your egg is ready to hatch, but because you didn't hatch it within the time limit, it was sent to the shelter and someone else picked it up. This also applies to going on a trip without a computer, and other similar occurrences. Over this past summer, I went on a trip. It was a few weeks long, and I didn't have access to a computer beyond five minutes to check my email (it was the hotel lobby computer, so I couldn't spend much time on it). If I went on another trip like that, what would happen to my eggs?

Another problem is that I know at least one person on here (and I'm sure that there's more of them here) who only has internet on the weekends because he can only get it when visiting his grandmother during that time. I'm not saying that there isn't a good reason for the change, just that it's going to negatively affect a lot of people who aren't the ones who only come on for events.

(Please forgive any stupid spelling/grammar mistakes, its after two in the morning here.)

Posted by: Zerxer Oct 1 2009, 01:12 AM

@^: Eggs that are ready to be hatched won't be affected.

Posted by: John102 Oct 1 2009, 01:13 AM

1280 exp=Appx. 32 interactions
2560 exp=Appx. 64 interactions
3840 exp=Appx. 96 interactions
5120 exp=Appx. 129 interactions
6400 exp=Appx. 160 interactions
7680 exp=Appx. 190 interactions
8960 exp=Appx. 224 interactions
10240 exp=Appx. 256 interactions
20480 exp=Appx. 512 interactions
30720 exp=Appx. 768 interactions

30,720exp/ 24 days= 1280 exp points a day/ 40 exp per interaction= 32 interactions.

So, you only need to get 32 interactions a day for that pokemon in order to make it in time...And you actually can do a little less than that, I used 24 days since it came out even, you actually have one more day so, yeah...

Posted by: Schala Oct 1 2009, 01:15 AM

Ah, then that gets rid of most of my fears about it. Thanks for the clarification.

Posted by: Admiral Cereus Oct 1 2009, 01:17 AM

If you know about your trip before hand and know that you won't be able to hatch it then it's only better for you to put out pokemon rather than get eggs. Like I said before, the system was brought up due to an ungodly amount of people who ONLY LOG ON TO GET EVENTS AND NEVER HATCH THEM.

I see people try to hatch their legends from the last event (bidofo) and can understand when real life decides to take a turn for the worst. However the fact that a lot of people are being selfish kinda really doesn't make it any more fairer than to people who actually take the time and to try to play the game.

And if people know that they're going to take forever to hatch a legendary, then quite frankly they shouldn't gun for it at all. I know some people who understand this situation and actually drop their legendaries because they know that they will never have the time to hatch them. Yes it sucks that you won't be able to have that legendary but it's better than letting it rot in your party for months on end taunting people who are active on the site with something that they didn't get and could actually hatch and appreciate because you aren't decisive enough to know when to let go.

Posted by: Lemons Oct 1 2009, 01:18 AM

Currently I don't have a job, which is why I can even do that often in the first place. I have a few interviews and if I'm hired, chances are I won't have time to go on more than once or twice, a day, but. Don't know. We'll see, I guess. It's possible that even with a job I'll have time to click the online list more than once or twice a day.

Zerxer: Is this change going to apply to eggs obtained before the 7th and all eggs not hatched within the new limits before the 7th will be put in the shelter, or will it only affect eggs obtained on/after the 7th?

Posted by: Admiral Cereus Oct 1 2009, 01:22 AM

From the wording in the topic post it would seem that it starts on the 7th and would be in effect from there onwards.

Posted by: Zerxer Oct 1 2009, 01:22 AM

Like I said in the update post, the first run of it will be the biggest, which means it will affect everything from before that point. All those people who are currently hoarding eggs that they've had for months will lose them.

Also, the 3-25 days could still change before the 7th. I mentioned that too. All of your worries will be taken into account.

EDIT: I'm just going to merge this thread with the update thread and open the other.

Posted by: ARCEUS Oct 1 2009, 01:35 AM

Oh F***. (sorry) I better go tell my friends. But with school and going away lots of peeps may loose legend eggs.

Posted by: sky queen3 Oct 1 2009, 08:16 AM

Wait, does this mean all eggs have to be hatched by the end of the week? And how long is 'too long'. it took me about a month to hatch my Rayquaza.

Posted by: Angiepants Oct 1 2009, 08:29 AM

Yeaaaaah, I'm still not seeing any answers about what happens if you have internet/computer problems or get sick or have some sort of emergency.

Posted by: koolchick Oct 1 2009, 08:30 AM

What if people are active but just don't get enough clicks seems unfair to lose a legendary or novelty just because its not ready to hatch. Not too bothered over othereggs can easy get them again but legendary and novelty are hard enough to get once never mind twice or more. I think it is one of the better ideas though as there are loads of legendarys I've seen that was got months back. Maybe a month to hatch 30,000 eggs would be better. Also why not send ready to hatch eggs to shelter if they have not been hatched in a week or something.

Posted by: Pizza Guy111 Oct 1 2009, 08:33 AM

I think some people are failing to realize that it isn't a matter of how many clicks YOU make, but how many people DECIDE to click you [back]. Just yesterday, half of the people I clicked did not click me back. That's about 25-30 people.

EDIT** I think that every time an egg hits a new stage, more time should be added to get it up another stage.

Posted by: Heartz Oct 1 2009, 08:34 AM

....oh.....crud.....

>__< I see WHY your doing this but still....Some people CANT get on a lot and this will kinda screw them out'a eggs theve been working on if there not online EVERYDAY...

guh....now I have to find a way top get online more....somehow...

Posted by: draconitas Oct 1 2009, 08:34 AM

Sorry, another question: will we get to know the time limit we have for each egg? Or will we just have to wing it and hope for the best?

For example, will we be told that an egg that needs 2560 exp will have a limit of (arbitrarily) 5 days, or is 3-25 (or whatever range you'll decide on) the only information we'll know?

Just needed a little clarification. Thanks in advance!

Posted by: ThePaul Oct 1 2009, 08:36 AM

I like this idea. Other clicking sites have similar things, but they're mean and just kill the poor babies out-right.

Still, I'd like to see the time till the eye gets ejected increased just a tad bit, just to avoid some unpleasantness others may experience.

Posted by: Blue Ashura Oct 1 2009, 08:39 AM

I have a question, are we going to somehow know how much time our eggs have left, either it based upon clicks and we're told or have it posted on the eggs somehow or something?

EDIT:
I mean more like when we obtain an egg are we going to know how many days we're given to hatch it either by placing it somewhere on the eggs page itself (like the dex info), or have a list somewhere on the forums that says something along the lines of 3,840 maturity = 3 days or something else?

Posted by: Slider Oct 1 2009, 08:39 AM

I dunno. This is bad and good. It doesn't affect me, but my poor bro just gave out a Rayquaza egg cos' he didn't see the point in keeping it for a few more days if it's just going to be released without him knowing or getting to do anything in the end. He's not an event fag, and he logs in everyday. But that ain't enough is it?

Anyways, whoever got that Rayquaza egg, (at about 9:32) I'd at least appreciate a thank you...

Posted by: Grenland Oct 1 2009, 08:39 AM

I think that's good, but not everyone is mass clicking and that means - 500 maturity per a day?
But in fact that means that the person isn't playing, hmm... important message? When the egg will be ready to abandon, in... 5 days there will be message sent about abandoning and hatching ^^

Posted by: xdante619 Oct 1 2009, 08:43 AM

I can see this going badly for some people. For me I've had a few problems lately getting online for more than a few minutes because I'm back in university & the course is pretty demanding this year. I don't see how it would be fair to people in my position who are rushed off their feet & barely able to click even their own eggs. These people will lose out purely because they're working towards a future? I dunno like I said it could go badly & could actually make people who don't have the unlimited time some other people have leave.

Posted by: Adelaide Oct 1 2009, 08:44 AM

I think this is a great idea. I'm a college student with a 19 hour credit load and I still find time to click everyday. I also have a fiancee' and a Maple character I'm trying to get to 200. It's really not that hard to interact 500 times a day with minimal effort of spending like 30 minutes to an hour everyday just clicking and clicking back. I know people have different issues such as strict parents and whatnot, but I notice a few people just use "real life" as an excuse. I can't begin to count how many users with like three or four legendary pokemon in their parties with less than 5k intereactions total. I can't help but think "Oh that's so cool how they have those eggs" but then I look at the statistics of those eggs and notice that they've been unhatched since May (or even earlier!).
I personally would like a shot at getting some of these poke's that were events before I joined. Opinion speaking, if you can't log on to take care of your eggies which were so nicely given to you, why do you even bother to log on to take more?

Posted by: Switzerland Oct 1 2009, 08:45 AM

I'm sorry but I can't say I like this idea. I don't hoard legend eggs, far from it, but I do have problems with my computer and real life. Currently I'm grounded from the computer, and I don't want to see my Primal Dialga taken away because of that. I'm trying to hatch it, but I don't use any of the snaplinks or stuff like that, so that makes it even harder for me. Can't there be a better way for this? Maybe if you watched for inactivity in general. I make sure to log on once a day at least, even if I am grounded, so it still registers that I was online and I get a few clicks. If you notice that someone only logs on around event time, then put them on a watch, then abandon their eggs.

Posted by: TheIgDemon Oct 1 2009, 08:45 AM

IMO, I don't like this system. Why punish all for what a few do? It's grade school all over again. *Shakes head* What you really should do is do this to the people who only log on for the events and take away their eggs after a few days if they don't log on after that or give any reason for being away until the next event.

Not to mention all the freakin' one clickers out there will make this system tick people off. I know it will me. If you do enact this system, I'm gonna have to start ignoring one-clickers. :/

I came on this site to have fun and to collect and hatch eggs to fill up the Dex entries and this will just kill my fun. I don't go to many forum sites. I am limited to this one, Serebii.net's, and mine. That's it. That's about it on where I put my eggs on display for people to click.

I also have class for seven hours in the evening and I come home and click back people then just go to sleep. So that kills a lot of my time on here. I can go clicking crazy on the weekends though unless I'm busy.

A lot of people on here will be POd if an egg they worked hard to get to waited for a long time suddenly just disappears. And I'm not talking about the event abusers. I waited a long time to find this Slime Slugma egg and I will be royally pissed if it is taken away from me. I would like an event egg, yes, but I'm not going to complain if I don't get one. :/ I actually prefer getting just commons, uncommons, rares, and novelties. Eventually I will need them to complete my Dex, yes, but I don't care at the moment.

Why ruin everybody's fun just because a few other's don't log on enough? There is a simple solution: Don't Give Event Eggs to Those Who Just Log On Each Month to Get Them.

Posted by: Slider Oct 1 2009, 08:45 AM

Then I guess they(soon maybe me nextyear) should just leave and let those who live on the net to click on this site. It would have been better if there was something to detect people with more than 1 event egg(different events). You did mention event fags was the reason for this move.

Posted by: Blak99Psy Oct 1 2009, 08:48 AM

What's done is done, and I understand the reasons, but I'm not too certain about it, either. I was online all the time, I have Snaplinks, and was clicking like mad, but it still took a whole month for my Deoxys to hatch. I had it in other signatures on other sites and everything, but it still took a while. I guess I'll just start limiting my party to one or two Pokemon at a time now.

Posted by: mawilek Oct 1 2009, 08:48 AM

i think, 3 days is really a small interval. lots of things may happen to make someone stay away from the site, or from the whole internet for 3 days. i don't think, there is a problem with someone hoarding common eggs, so you should not solve that problem. try to solve a problem with very rare eggs...
i think, it will be quiet enough, if a non hatched egg is automatically abandoned after 24 days, or maybe even a month. and it's maturity doesn't matter.
and why doesn't it works for ready to be hatched eggs?... they may be auto abandoned and hatched into a shelter..

Posted by: CAR = BIDOOF Oct 1 2009, 08:52 AM

Yeah, it'll say on the egg's page "you have x time remaining to hatch this egg" or some such.

Posted by: M O N S T E R Oct 1 2009, 08:54 AM

I dont mind this at all, it will make it so i wont keep filling my whole party with eggs, sence im not on alot i will just fill it up with pokemon

Posted by: zer0cars Oct 1 2009, 08:57 AM

I understand why the system is being implemented. However, I see two problems with this. First, the 3-25 day limit seems arbitrary. What is it based off of? What evidence is there to support that specific time line. 7-30 days seems more reasonable. Second, it has the potential to create hoarders, waiting until the legendaries and novelties are dropped from parties and swiping them from the shelter.

Posted by: Commander Wymsy Oct 1 2009, 08:57 AM

Mind you, the current amount of days may change. I threw out the numbers myself, and they are really only tentative. I was contemplating on having a few of them extended by a couple days. But for the curious, here was the idea:

1280 (3), 2560 (4), 3840 (5), 5120 (7), 6400 (8), 7680 (10), 8960 (12), 10000 (14), 10240 (14), 20480 (20), 30720 (25)

As for the person who said that getting to the next stage upping the time I bit; I like that idea. Perhaps by a day or two, depending on the amount of maturity needed to hatch it.

Posted by: Rapps Oct 1 2009, 08:57 AM

I can understand the limitation if it's to stop people coming on JUST to get event eggs.

However, I come online a few times a day, but I only do about 100 clicks a day lately because I'm too busy to sit on this site for long. I only want to spend a maximum of about an hour or two on here a day. I literally don't have any more time than that to be clicking. And I don't use anything like snaplinks to make things faster either. I'm not going to give excuses like real life, school, whatever. I'm self employed, I'm an artist, I make very little money, and spend literally the entire day drawing on the comp. The only times I'm not drawing is when I eat, sleep, do housework and take my breaks. And when I take a break, I don't want to do ANYTHING to do with my laptop. I'll go and watch TV, or play PS, or something. I certainly wouldn't spend that time clicking. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy this site, I like collecting Pokémon, I enjoy clicking people. But I don't want to spend a lot of time on it, that's when things get tiresome.

I've had a primal dialga in my party since the last event because I haven't made it my priority to go out and click a lot of people. But I'm still a regular to this site, I still get on every day, I still try my best to click everyone back who clicks me. I've easily done 2k clicks on a day where I didn't have to work. I don't think it's fair to punish people based on how long they take to hatch something. I don't even like the thought of losing one of my normal eggs, because at this point, I've almost completed the eggdex aside from ditto and some legendaries, so I'll only be shiny hunting. And one of the eggs I lose could well be shiny.

I do think it's a good idea, simply to discourage people hoarding event eggs. But I hope you'll give us a REASONABLE time to hatch eggs. And I really hope the three days as a minimum is just for eggs like Magikarp that only take around 1k to hatch, with twenty five days being for eggs that take 30k.

People who say things like "there's no excuse for you not to be able to click on and do a couple hundred clicks a day" are very lucky to have so much free time.

Posted by: Captain Epic Oct 1 2009, 08:57 AM

I suppose it's simple... if you can't get online because of a hectic lifestyle or your internet dies, then you just lose your eggs. Which hardly seems fair.

It might not affect me so much, but my friend has just had her internet go down, and she doesn't know when it'll be back up. So she could possibly lose her eggs when this goes live?

I've never had a Legendary egg with a lot of maturity to get, but this does mean that anyone who gets a Legend will now have to spend half of their lives on the site to try and get it hatched.

Edit:
Also, what if the site goes down like it did earlier? Will that affect the time you have to hatch it?

Posted by: Spewer Oct 1 2009, 08:58 AM

*sigh* great, now I can theoretically abandon every event egg 1 day after I obtained. I simply can't hatch such high maturity eggs in 25 days. And it will hinder me having alot of Pachirisus...

Posted by: Emerald Blaise Oct 1 2009, 09:01 AM

Sorry but, i just think this is wrong
I have college, and the most i get to click during the week is 5-25 clicks. I cant click while im at college, and when i get home, and too tired to even do it. At weekend, if im not busy (which i usually am), that when i can do as many clicks as i want. If this thing happened, i can see myself losing interest in the near future with it. I love clicking and hatching the eggs and all that, but this would certainally put me off

Posted by: Fionna Oct 1 2009, 09:06 AM

This please. I think this would be a good way to differentiate between the people who log in just for the eggs and people are really trying to hatch them. For commons it could add an additional day and for legends maybe 3 days onto the total time?

Posted by: Meyerken Oct 1 2009, 09:07 AM

I love this new rule!!!!
I don't see why people are whining about this. I have a job and can still hatch a legendary egg within 3 - 5 days (depending on how lasy I am.) You don't have to click that much to hatch any egg within 25 days.

Posted by: Slider Oct 1 2009, 09:07 AM

I don't really get what they mean by 'stage'.

Posted by: Captain Epic Oct 1 2009, 09:08 AM

I know what you mean. And I don't think you'll be the only one. Once this limited time thing kicks in, and people start to lose their eggs, I can see a lot of people starting to leave, which would be really sad

Posted by: Rapps Oct 1 2009, 09:09 AM

Thirding this. Extremely good suggestion. And it adds a lot less pressure on those of us who don't have a lot of time to click.

Posted by: TheIgDemon Oct 1 2009, 09:10 AM

That sounds more reasonable.

Posted by: Slider Oct 1 2009, 09:11 AM

Can someone please tell me what they mean by 'stage'?

Posted by: Pizza Guy111 Oct 1 2009, 09:11 AM

People liking my idea??!!! Oh no, I think the world is ending. But seriously, it was just the first thing that came to my mind. I only think it's fair because it shows that people are actually making some kind of effort.

Posted by: Blak99Psy Oct 1 2009, 09:12 AM

If by stage, you mean every time a new set of cracks is added to the egg, then yes, I can definitely get behind that as well.

If this works out the way I think, it'll be a lot more forgiving than Dragon Cave.

Posted by: meowz Oct 1 2009, 09:12 AM

My vote is yes. I think it is a good idea.

Posted by: Leila Oct 1 2009, 09:13 AM

Guys, it's really simple- Go to a library or another public computer when you're at school. I'm a college student and I have lag times between classes. I'm a little annoyed whenever I see a Bidofo or Mew egg that's not hatched... especially since Mew is my favorite 'mon and I didn't get one. Obviously, these people don't have the time to hatch eggs within a couple of months. I am in full support of the new system. Will I lose a couple when my computer breaks? Yes. But it's an online game, and you'll probably have a chance to get the egg in another event sometime down the road. Deal with it.

Good move, Admin. Thank you.

Posted by: Pizza Guy111 Oct 1 2009, 09:14 AM

1) The egg is not gonna hatch anytime soon.
2) A small crack is in the egg.
3) The crack got bigger.
4) A small hole opened up.
5) That hole is bigger.
6) Egg's ready to hatch.

Posted by: Slider Oct 1 2009, 09:15 AM

Then yes I support this. It will make things alot less frustrating for people who dont click like mad.

Posted by: SabakuNoElli Oct 1 2009, 09:27 AM

Wow, I think, I have to get a laptop for everytime when I´m on vacation.
Maybe I´m away for four weeks in summer, so, what shall I do? Wait untill all my eggs are sent to the shelter? Hatch them all before Holiday?

I think, even if 1.000 or a million of legendary-eggs get lost because of some people like that, I would rather prefer the rules how they are now.

~Awww, my English sucks!

Posted by: taroschain Oct 1 2009, 09:28 AM

I like the idea of going by stages.

This wouldn't affect me too much, however it seems like it would give an extra advantage to mass clickers and shelter stalkers who are already more likely to find an abandoned legendary than users who log on every day and click to the best of their time constraints. Personally, it would piss me off to have an event egg at 25,000 maturity, then lose it and have it wind up in someone's party who already has two other legendary eggs. I can see the need to weed out "event fags," but it just feels like some people will be profiting from this more than others.

Posted by: Rythen Oct 1 2009, 09:28 AM

I play this game very casually, sometimes it takes a few days even for common eggs to hatch because I just don't have the time to spend 30 minutes-an hour a day dedicated just to clicking random people, much less clearing up the list I've accumulated.

If a boost is added like suggested above, I'd be okay with this.

Honestly I don't CARE about the legends/novelties most of the time. I don't play the site to "Catch 'em all," I play to snag favorites here and there.

Posted by: Robert Conley Oct 1 2009, 09:32 AM

Hmm not sure how I feel about this. Seems a little unfair to people who cant click alot. On the other hand it is kind of irritating to constantly see event eggs that are several months old with barely any maturity, I swear I saw one from may the other day.

Posted by: VileSe Oct 1 2009, 09:32 AM

I just had a quick scan of most of my hatched pokemon, seeing the date I obtained them and the date they finally hatched, trying to do a quick comparison against Wymsy's rough guide posted earlier in this topic. I find it that the times are often too close for comfort the more you move up the maturity line; for example, you get 14 days or so to hatch a 10k maturity egg but only an addition of 5 days to hatch the last 10k of a 30k maturity egg compared to a 20k maturity egg. That's a shortening of 9 days worth of clicks, which is frankly unfair. Or the other way of looking at it, if it's 14 days for a 10k maturity egg, then for a 30k maturity egg, the user should be allowed 14 x 3 days = 42 days to hatch it; no matter how you look at it, that cannot be equal to the 25 days that is given.

However, even if the plan should be implemented as it is, it wouldn't affect me directly because I go at my own pace. I will work around it, obtaining eggs when I know I'll have the time to initiate lots of clicks and returns. But, it still seems the rule is a bit harsh when it comes to novelty and legendaries that have high maturities compared to all other eggs. If this implementation is to stop inactive users hoarding eggs, then there should be a more defined line separating those who are attempting to hatch their eggs vs. those who are just hoarding during each event; which shouldn't be that difficult to do if the hoarders are only logging in and clicking during or near the event times.

Posted by: koolchick Oct 1 2009, 09:34 AM

I think deleteing inactive accounts would be good as well like must log in and actually be active not just stay logged in all time every week or something and do so many interactions a week nothing high just to show you are still active so people who have not been active enough can't get event eggs even if they have logged in in last 2 week. This would stop people only logging in to have chance of legendarys. Overall it is a good idea as there will be others as well as me who never ever get event eggs who may manage to grab one from shelter and there will be quite a few so not everyone diving for same one like it would be if any get abandoned in events or other times. Also if people do leave the site through this is gives other people a bit more chance at getting event eggs.

Posted by: Slider Oct 1 2009, 09:36 AM

The way I see it, this only weeds out the less active, and the event fags. I think we should be expecting more shelter stalkers soon. But then again, the decision's been made.

Posted by: Rythen Oct 1 2009, 09:43 AM

Actually I find DC more forgiving than this.
On DC if you run low on time, there are many sites to post and people can just spam refresh. Even with a couple hours left, an ignored-till-the-last-minute egg can survive.

You can't do that here.

Posted by: alvanista Oct 1 2009, 09:43 AM

Meh, I don't really like this idea. But it's not like I can do anything about it, so I won't complain. I sure hope the idea for extra time is implemented, though.

I predict a lot of lag on the site, though - the Shelter will be constantly refreshed.

Posted by: ShiroYume Oct 1 2009, 09:49 AM

I'm not quite sure what to think about this. I am online everyday and click as many clicks as seems reasonable considering my free time. I've got Internet Explorer, so I can't get Snap Links, and it takes rather long to open all links and click them etc, even though I've got a pretty fast Internet connection.

Personally, I'm not sure whether those times are enough to hatch my eggs...or at least they'll be a bit too close for comfort. I'm also worried about holidays and Internet problems...

If people are the problem that only log on during events to get an event egg, wouldn't it be better to only let those get eggs that don't currently have an event egg (that they obtained through the event itself, not through the Shelter) that they haven't hatched yet? Not sure if it's possible, but at least it would stop the hoarding without hatching...

Posted by: chaosashley Oct 1 2009, 09:51 AM

what if you have an event egg from long time ago and haven't been on because of moving
will that egg be gone by the time the system start?


i mean i have no time to hatch regiice because i cant be on 9 to 10 hours any more.
regiice is not even close to hatching. do i just forget about it?
i havent been on for a while but i am on now and clicking like mad!

Posted by: Rythen Oct 1 2009, 09:54 AM

Someone I know brought up a good point about abuse with this system...
Who's to say that someone won't notice your legendary and decide NOT to click it just so they can snag it off the Shelter themselves?

Posted by: Slider Oct 1 2009, 10:02 AM

This. If event fags and hoarders exist. I don't see why this won't happen.

Posted by: CAR = BIDOOF Oct 1 2009, 10:03 AM

Don't worry, we'd actually already thought about that and have a plan that would prevent that from happening.

Posted by: nokrow Oct 1 2009, 10:06 AM

i'm sorry but this idea just seems very stupid my brother is only able to get on-line for about an hour a day due to school and he has had his eggs for a long time and some of em arent even half way hatched but its not his fault and now he is going to be penalized for it? thats not fair at all he is hardly able to get 10 interactions a day outside of his own egg's because of our connection and most of the time i'm the only one who ends up clicking him back its not fair to punish those who cant control it.

Posted by: Ingrid Oct 1 2009, 10:08 AM

I feel that this idea is a terrible one. We all have lives to attend to and we all can't be on the site everyday. Oh, you wanna go on vacation? Nope, your eggs are gone. Oh, you're moving? Your eggs are gone. What's that? A tasking job? Your eggs are gone.

Look, sure I dislike seeing event eggs unhatched. I've logged on for every single event past the Easter Buneary and I have not gotten -ONE- event egg. Not one. But I feel this system is a poor one. I rather go, "Grr".. than feel the worry of "Omg, what if I don't hatch my eggs"

Right now I'm in the process of moving.. I'm not going to be able to get on a computer every day. I don't need to have STRESS on a site where I click pokemon eggs. Sheesh. This is supposed to be relaxing.

Posted by: Glide Oct 1 2009, 10:15 AM

I dislike this idea.

I have a Egg I got in June and it is just NOW getting close to hatching and today I got another egg I know will take forever to hatch. I try to click everyday but there are points that my internet refuses to load so I can not click and about half of the people I click do not click back.

I understand why this is happening but this will hurt a lot of people who are trying to play correctly.

Posted by: PerfectPalkia07 Oct 1 2009, 10:19 AM

Yeah this can be a problem... I can't get onto GPX every day, and with this being taken into account, my eggs will have a higher chance of being abandoned as a result (when this is activated). It would be really harsh if someone spent a lot of time getting a rare egg, or luckily finding a lab summon, and they can't always get onto GPX, it will be deleted because they can't get onto it everyday, and all that hard work will be for nothing. As a result I don't particulary like this idea...

Posted by: koolchick Oct 1 2009, 10:20 AM

How exactly would you stop it happening??

Posted by: Zerxer Oct 1 2009, 10:20 AM

I don't get why everyone is still complaining. Oh, right, because not everyone is reading our replies. We already stated that the 3-25 day range will probably change, it was just a placeholder idea. On top of that, we're going to use the idea of making your time left increase as you get the egg to a new stage (meaning the cracks change). All of this was posted several times already now.

I don't see how everyone is assuming they'll have such a huge problem with this. Drag Cave completely kills off your eggs, and even your hatchlings I believe, if you don't hatch/mature them in a certain amount of time. Their members still cope with it just fine.

I'm going to go back to my original idea of just leaving this thread locked because it's just people posting the same exact thing wrapped up in their own wall of text. Please don't make anymore clarification threads about it in the other GPX+ sections. We'll make sure we iron out the details and make it fair enough for everyone.

Posted by: Zerxer Oct 1 2009, 07:09 PM

I've changed my mind. The countdown will begin on the 7th for all eggs, meaning eggs that are already older than a month will not be abandoned instantly on the 7th.

Posted by: Zerxer Oct 2 2009, 05:46 PM

New information:
Max maturity (days required to hatch)
1280 (10), 2560 (13), 3840 (15), 5120 (17), 6400 (19), 7680 (21), 8960 (23), 10000 (25), 10240 (25), 20480 (32), 30720 (38)

Max maturity (time added on after your egg hits a new stage/gets more cracked)
1280-2560 bonus (4 hours), 3840-5120 bonus (6 hours), 6400-7680 bonus (8 hours), 7680-8960 bonus (10 hours), 10000-10240 bonus (12 hours), 20480 bonus (24 hours), 30720 bonus (36 hours)

Plus, we will think up other ways you can increase your egg's time remaining. Honestly, this seems fair. Eggs are supposed to be easy to hatch, it's leveling the Pokémon up and evolving it that is the difficult part, which we won't put any limit on.

One of the main things you're supposed to do on this site is go around and post them places where you hang out so that they can grow faster, and you should really have no trouble hatching an egg that requires 8960 maturity or less in a week, and we're giving you more time than that. Try putting them in your signature on this forum, and being active here, or joining a GPX+ Group here. You'd be surprised how much faster they hatch.

If you still can't do this, or know you'll be on vacation, then just put Pokémon in your party instead, since you're supposed to level them up too, not just hatch every egg you can. Don't fill your entire party up with eggs if you know you can't hatch them fast enough.

If you're going to leave over this, then we're sorry to see you go. But this is something we need implemented to better control the database, just like we needed to get rid of all those unvalidated accounts.