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Wobb & Deoxys: OU or not? |
 Jun 18 2008, 07:54 PM
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 Master of dimensions... Pleaser of crowds... I am...Dimentio!  Group: Validating Posts: 487 Joined: 13-February 08 From: Taunting PK in Dimension V. Member No.: 1 118 Active Squad 
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Okay, I've heard opinions from both sides. What is your opinion? Are Wobb and Deoxys-E Uber worthy? Debate.
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Jun 18 2008, 09:33 PM
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I say yes to both only because deox has been known to have that level of uberness, and I don't know if it's ever happened to you but when a wobb strategy actually works, IT HURTS.
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Jun 18 2008, 10:52 PM
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 i need something to put here  Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad
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Deoxys-E is OU, Wob should stay Uber.
I've argued the fuck out of the former on a different board, and am currently irrefuted; the only person arguing against me is referring to such bullshit arguments in order to get his point across, which I'm easily countering. In the end, Deoxys-E is just a revenge killer and an average wall, and isn't more threatening than many other OUs out there. -------------------- |
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Jun 20 2008, 10:13 PM
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 The Dark Hero  Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 08 From: Veldime Member No.: 1 108 HeartGold In-game 
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Yep, wobb should stay in his uberness, mainly because I think its cool that he is, and becuase of the cheapness he can pull..
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Jun 21 2008, 09:44 AM
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 Fear The Dark.  Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. 
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The speed form deoxys is definately OU. Imo wob is uber.
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Jun 21 2008, 10:12 AM
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Master of dimensions... Pleaser of crowds... I am...Dimentio! Group: Validating Posts: 487 Joined: 13-February 08 From: Taunting PK in Dimension V. Member No.: 1 118 Active Squad
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Can someone please explain why they think what they think? My opinion on Wobb is that he's a bit too game-changing to be OU, but he's much to frail to be Uber. Though, I think there are many Pokemon more threatening than him...
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Jun 21 2008, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(SMGT @ Jun 21 2008, 04:12 PM)  Can someone please explain why they think what they think? My opinion on Wobb is that he's a bit too game-changing to be OU, but he's much to frail to be Uber. Though, I think there are many Pokemon more threatening than him... TBH I would not think Garchomp is more threatening than Wobuffet. Weavile and almost any Phisical wall can counter most Garchomps. Wobba has no real counters in OU. I used him to find out how good he was in Shoddy Battle and he rarely ever went down without having taken down another Pokemon. Deoxys E on the other hand, is frail and has poor stats. I have seen a pressure stall set work wonders but it took alot of setting up. I think it should defonitly be in OU. -------------------- [align=center]
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Jun 21 2008, 01:23 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad
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Deoxys-E is fine in OU, it can late game sweep pretty well. It basically is the definition of late-game sweeper, but doesn't do as good a job at it as, say, Garchomp, Salamence, etc. It's not any more threatening than Salamence.
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Jul 6 2008, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(empoleon dynamite @ Jun 21 2008, 11:27 AM) Wobba has no real counters By definition, Wob has no counter. A well played Wob is guaranteed a kill, and if you set up you can get Encored into a stat-up. -------------------- That is a really, really bad sig; new one to come soon.
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Jul 6 2008, 11:56 PM
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 Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 11-July 07 From: PA Member No.: 85 Active Squad 
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right now Deoxys-E is Ou and Wobbuffet has been found to be too game chaging and was sent back to ubers. if you visist Smogon this should be old news.
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Jul 24 2008, 03:05 PM
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 Adorable Demonic Pinecone  Group: Advisors Posts: 2 345 Joined: 10-July 08 From: Alterion Member No.: 2 319 ORAS Team 
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So for someone making a team to challenge the league here, would Deoxys-E be considered Uber or not?
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Jul 24 2008, 03:56 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad
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Deoxys-E is OU on the site.
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Jul 24 2008, 04:55 PM
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Adorable Demonic Pinecone Group: Advisors Posts: 2 345 Joined: 10-July 08 From: Alterion Member No.: 2 319 ORAS Team
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Awesome! Many thanks
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