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What do you think of smokers?
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post Jul 4 2011, 03:58 PM
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I don't hate them for it, it's their own choice.

What pisses me off is how arrogant people are with it. There are so many TV Programmes, education classes about it, yet people still do it. After all it's their choice. They've seen the consequences. If they want to do it then do it, it's no skin off my nose.


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post Sep 4 2011, 02:37 PM
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I don't have any problem with the actual people who do smoke. My mom smoked for a while before she had kids, and she's like my favorite person. When she told me she smoked for a while I didn't lose any respect for her.
But I do hate the act. I've lost two family members to lung cancer. It's a scary thing. I encourage the people I care about who smoke not to do it, and when the people I've dated have been smokers or have tried smoking, I tell them that I don't like it and don't approve but it's their choice and I'm not going to lecture them, just express my concern and let them make their choice.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I hate the act of smoking, but not people who smoke.

EDIT: I do hate when I see things like mothers driving around smoking with the windows rolled up and a baby in the back seat, and stuff like that. if you want to smoke, it's your choice, but when you do stuff like that you're negatively impacting the people around you.

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post Sep 4 2011, 04:58 PM
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I find smoking absoultely disgusting. You're sticking dired up leaves rolled in paper into your mouth and lighting it on fire, then inhaling the smoke. One of my personal rules is never date someone who smokes.


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post Sep 4 2011, 07:00 PM
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I don't have a problem with it, really. If they do it, it's their choice. Just don't smoke in public. And I hate television shows that glorify it. Though I watch Skins and they smoke like it's necessary for them to stay alive lol. It's unhealthy, and I'd never even consider doing it myself.


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post Oct 12 2011, 04:49 PM
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I don't mind smokers as long as they don't smoke while I'm around. I don't mind the smell as much as some people, I just don't want all the secondhand crap getting into me; my cardio system is already kinda crap because I'm not the most active person in the world. As for trying to get them to stop smoking, it's their choice. Smokers can choose to smoke however much they want; not my body, not my problem (mostly).


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post Oct 12 2011, 05:31 PM
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There's nothing wrong with people who smoke and they're not inherently bad for doing so. I don't smoke cigarettes because I have low lung capacity as it is, but if I could and it actually dulled my anxiety, I would. In the age of global mass-production, we consume things every day that are unhealthy and which detriment our bodies--whether we know it or not. It just depends on *what* you consume.

I can't in good conscience hate people for smoking because that's pretty silly. If anything, I get irritated with the companies that continue producing cigarettes knowing full well that they're toxic, but even that's slippery, because we readily make many products which are toxic to living things. :/ That and there's some built-in classism when it comes to smoking nowadays.


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post Oct 12 2011, 05:52 PM
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Anyone who's been to IET will most likely run into these four habits: drinking, smoking, energy drinks, and sex. Now avoiding a raging discussion over the other three, especially sex given that, apparently, having sex with random people you don't know and then never associating with them ever again ISN'T a habit (even though I beg to differ) I did happen to run into smoking quite a bit. I've never really "smoked". I took a couple half puffs off of someone else's Menthols but aside form that I don't need it. It's overly expensive, and my run time really can't afford anymore factors working against it.

Now all that aside, I don't care if you smoke. I do find it obnoxious when people will insist on exercising their "God given right" to smoke no matter what the environment (family restaurant, day care, the entrance to a building, my fucking face etc.) Coming from a city where smoking is ERRWHERE I don't mind it much. I don't like it, but if I broke out in hives every time I'd be dead by now. HOWEVER, I do see the annoyance. While you do have the right to smoke, I to have the right to not have an obnoxious cloud of smoke blown in my innocent nostrils. Now no shit...not everyone's like this. I knew quite a few decent people who smoked in training who were quite decent in their habit, though I have no doubts that there will be at least one of you to raise the issue that BLAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH THEY'RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT!!! facepalm.gif

So...

Cons:

Causes cancer
Addictive
Potentially obnoxious to everyone around you
Expensive as all holy HELL
After enough of it, your lungs are eventually going to decide they've had enough and just stop working

Pros:

You look cool (Because that's what's truly important in life)
Relieves stress (I have Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, and, most recently, RAGE to achieve that particular goal)
Legal (So is drinking...)
Not as bad as soda/drinking/overeating/etc. (Which is basically like saying "Why are you yelling at me for murdering this guy when THAT GUY is looking at child porn?!")
Gives you something to do (You know what else is "something to do"? Going to the movies, taking up a sport, playing video games, and a variety of OTHER activities that are not only healthier, but less expensive)

Needless to say, I'm probably not going to pick up the habit anytime soon.


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post Oct 12 2011, 06:12 PM
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Smoking itself is gross. But if a person chooses to smoke, oh well. Thats their choice. Just don't smoke around me. My shot sinuses already make it hard for me to breath, I dont need to be gagging on smoke -_-2.gif
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post Nov 8 2011, 03:44 PM
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I'm trying not to read the replies in here because I know how young some users are, and I know that a lot of younger people (I'm thinking ages lik 11 through 14 maybe) have quite an immature view on smoking. And that's not a bad thing - it'll probably mean they won't start if they hold on to that viewpoint!

But yeah, I'm a smoker so... I can't really say I don't like smoking. I started when I was 17. I partly blame our smoking ban, but I won't get into that. I will stop one day, just now's not a good time health-wise for me. I know that sounds silly since smoking itself is bad for your health, but yeah. I have other health issues I need to deal with right now before I tackle quitting smoking.
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post Nov 8 2011, 10:12 PM
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Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

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post Nov 9 2011, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 8 2011, 10:12 PM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

darn, thats really messed up. :c

yeah, hes pretty much right. not trying to bash on you or anything, just saying that you probably should stop smoking soon; it will make it harder in the long run to get rid of and/or heal whatever other health problems you currently have now.

as for smokers in general... well, it's kinda hard for me to explain (plus my lazy side just kicked in, lol; it is 1:04am, after all... *is very tired*), so, pretty much what Reyo said sums it up for my opinion/perspective on smoking, so yeah. there ya' go.

and no, im not a smoker, nor will i ever even think about smoking in a million years. or drinking. i don't like neither of 'em. :P

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post Nov 9 2011, 01:29 AM
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Disappointment. There is a girl in my sport class, she is skinny as fuck, can run three kilometers without getting shortness of breath and she smokes. I can't stand to look at her.. I'd kill to be able to do half the things she can do, and she wastes it by ruining herself.
I don't smoke, and will never think about it. Unlike girls my age, I have a brain of my own and don't need such things to fit in.


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post Nov 9 2011, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(Grey Warden @ Nov 9 2011, 02:29 AM) *
Disappointment. There is a girl in my sport class, she is skinny as fuck, can run three kilometers without getting shortness of breath and she smokes. I can't stand to look at her.. I'd kill to be able to do half the things she can do, and she wastes it by ruining herself.
I don't smoke, and will never think about it. Unlike girls my age, I have a brain of my own and don't need such things to fit in.


I absolutely can't stand it when someone can run a 13 minute 2 mile and smoke anywhere between one half to a full pack of cigs a day...meanwhile, I can barely achieve 15:30 and don't smoke at all. It's not the person though, some of the most decent people I've known are able to achieve such a feat, it's just that it goes against all logic.

If there is a God up there, he's a colossal dick-bag.


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post Nov 9 2011, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.
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post Nov 11 2011, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?


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Hm, I don't have anything much against smokers. It's their choice really.

I just think it is, indeed, a waste of money, time & life - especially for the hospitals/workers that have to endure long hours keeping someone alive that's about to die from lung cancer due to smoking or inhaling other similar stuff, when that would have never happened if people didn't smoke in the first place.. yer yer - could be saving someone else with a more significant/severe injury/disease, and hospital beds are being wasted on those who choose to soon be in one due to smoking in tha' long run.


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Some people simply smoke because they want to look and feel cool and 'mature'. I really dislike the smell of smokes, and I dislike it when people do it, but it can't be helped. I have a friend who smokes, but I don't really care about it.
Smokers know about the bad sides of smoking anyways. They've been warned, it's their own choice to smoke or not to smoke.
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QUOTE(Reyo @ Nov 11 2011, 09:17 AM) *
QUOTE(Lugia182 @ Nov 10 2011, 04:31 PM) *
QUOTE(BarkingChaos @ Nov 9 2011, 03:12 AM) *
Shouldnt you be concentrating on quitting smoking on top of the other health problems? Smoking is just doing more damage and preventing you from healing. My nana beat breast cancer but died from lung cancer because she wouldnt stop smoking. This was in a span of about a month. Dont be like my nana

...you don't know what my other health problems are? Please don't judge me when you don't know the facts. I can assure you my other health problems have nothing to do with my smoking, they came about long before I started smoking, and my smoking physically cannot make it worse. And (not that you'd understand, being a non-smoker) quitting right now would put too much strain on me (my doctor told me this).

So no, I shouldn't be quitting smoking first. Please don't tell me what I should do.


May I ask what those health issues are?

It's not something I really feel comfortable discussing with people I don't know, sorry. But I can assure you it's nothing to do with my insides (which is, essentially, what smoking affects).
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