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[D/P] Typhlosion, A new Geoffrey
Geoffrey
post Nov 30 2008, 05:01 PM
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Typhlosion
Pokedex #: 157
Type: Fire
Evolution line: cyndaquil.gif (lvl 14) -> quilava.gif (lvl 36) -> typhlosion.gif
Bases stats:
HP: 78
Atk: 84
Def: 78
SpA: 109
SpD: 85
Spe: 100

Total Base stats: 534
Tier: Borderline (BL)

Strengths: Bug, Grass, Steel, Ice.
Weaknesses: Water, Rock, Ground.
No effect against: None.
Resists: Bug, Steel, Fire, Grass.
Immune to: None.

Ability: Blaze, boosts power of Fire moves 50% when at 1/3 HP or less.

Movesets:

1. Mixed Choice Scarf Lead

Typhlosion@ Choice Scarf
Mild/Rash
Blaze
144 Atk / 252 SpA / 112 Spe

Eruption
EarthQuake/HP Ice
ThunderPunch/Focus Punch/Brick Break
Flamethrower/Overheat

Typhlosion's movepool may be a little limited, but it can prove to be a good lead with choice scarf. With 112 EVs in Speed, it allows it to outrun anything up to 130 base speed, aside from fellow choice scarfers. Eruption is a must for this set, allowing a speedy and powerful punch with a 150 base power STAB move. Although, if he were to be damaged, you need a good back up fire move, such as Flamethrower or Overheat. EQ is there to hit an unexpecting Heatran, while HP Ice gets those pesky dragons. For the last slot, ThunderPunch hits water types, mostly Gyarados, for an unexpecting counter, while Focus Punch can hit the ever so annoying Blissey, although doesn't work too well with this set, making Brick Break another choice.

2. Special Choice Scarf Lead
Typhlosion@ Choice Scarf
Modest
Blaze
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp

Eruption
HP Ice/HP Grass
OverHeat/Flamethrower
Focus Blast

A strictly special version of the first set. Due to lack of physical moves, you don't need to put any IVs into attack, so they can be put into speed, making this Typhlosion faster than the Mixed version. HP Grass hits Swampert, a huge threat to Typhlosion, but HP ice gets dragons, and can 2 hit KO Salamence. Overheat or Flamethrower are backups for Eruption, if Typhlosion were to be damaged. Overheat offers more power for the first hit, but the lower in Special attack isn't too appealing.

3. SunnyBeamer
Typlosion@ Leftovers/Heat Rock
Timid/Modest
Blaze
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp

Eruption/Fire Blast/Flamethrower
HP Ice/HP Electric/Focus Blast
SolarBeam
Sunny Day

Sunny day is a great move for Typhlosion, or any other fire types for that matter. Personally, I'd use Flamethrower over the other two options, due to having more accuracy than Fire Blast and having a stable Base attack power. With SolarBeam, you can use HP Electric if you'd like, to get Gyarados a scare, although SolarBeam can do some good damage to him as well.

4. Casual Sweeper

Typhlosion@ Life Orb
Hasty/Naive
Blaze
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Atk

Flamethrower
HP Ice/Grass/Electric
Focus Blast
Earthquake/Will-o-Wisp

A casual Special Sweeper with a little hint of physical, if you'd like. With Life Orb attached, Eruption is not a good idea on this type of Typhlosion. Earthquake can hit Heatran and other Flash Fire pokemon, but Will-o-wisp is never bad to have. For HP, there are three options this time, and it's up to you. Ice gets rid of any Gliscor and Dragon problem, although creates problems when facing Swampert. Grass gets rids of any Swampert scares, but gives Typhlosion not options for the likes of Salamence and Dragonite. Electric solves the Gyarados threat, but is no good against Swampert or Dragons.

5. lol physical sweeper?
Typhlosion@ Life Orb/Liechi Berry
Adamant
Blaze
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Hp

Flare Blitz/Fire Punch
Thunder Punch
EarthQuake/Howl
Shadow Claw/Howl

A moveset to trick your opponent and is just crazy enough to work. In D/P, Typhlosion gets a good list of Physical moves, along with howl to boost his attack. Although, I don't recommend this set, unless you really know what you are doing. EQ is more valued over Shadow Claw, and Howl should really be there for this set. Flare Blitz is a powerful STAB move, which will be your most used attack. If you don't like it's recoil, along with the extra loss of HP from Life Orb, it can be swapped for Fire Punch.

Other Options:
SubBlaze is also a good option for Typhlosion. And despite it's good physical movepool, it shouldn't go completely physical, unless you do know what you're doing.

Counters:
Stealth Rock really takes a toll on Typhlosion, as with most fire types.

Gyarados can make quick work of Typhlosion.

Blissey/Snorlax can wall Typhlosion pretty easily, as long as they look out for Focus Punch/Blast.

Swampert is a huge threat to this Fire starter. With out HP Grass, it really has no hope against it.

And if you have HP Grass, not Ice, dragons like Kingdra and Salamence can run through this pretty easy.

Final Thoughts
Typhlosion is pretty underrated in my opinion. It's the only Pokemon that can successfully pull of the Eruption Scarf, which is what it's best at, and can set up a good SunnyBeamer if used right. And it's good physical move pool can really surprise some players.



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post Nov 30 2008, 10:17 PM
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Very nice! I can use this topic to create an ultimate Typhlosion.


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post Nov 30 2008, 10:51 PM
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Thanks, I put a lot of thought into this.


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post Nov 30 2008, 10:54 PM
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I can tell. You have a very good working brain to post this stuff without giving up or getting bored/tired.


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post Nov 30 2008, 10:56 PM
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oh, kudos to you, geoffrey! this is very well put together. +1 for being a member of my favorite evolution family. btw, my sublaze 'phlosion kicks some serious ass.


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post Nov 30 2008, 10:56 PM
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Why, thank you! I plan on making one for Dragonite, or Scizor, or Porygon-Z, or something.... maybe Espeon.

*EDIT* Yeah, I pretty much neglected SubBlaze.... but I'll add it in at a later time.

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post Nov 30 2008, 10:58 PM
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Even better!!! You should do that.


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post Jan 3 2009, 03:49 PM
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Made some edits some sets, and more counters.


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post Jan 3 2009, 04:27 PM
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noes.gif stealth rock makes thyphlosion cry


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I just love my Sunnybeamer Typhlosion, he's my pride and joy.


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This helps, ever since I replaced Wise glasses with Choice scarf Ive done way better in shoddy
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