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Jun 22 2008, 01:25 AM
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Megalomaniac out for world domination Group: +Donors Posts: 2 684 Joined: 12-June 07 From: ZodiVille $$$ Member No.: 3 Greatest Team Ever |
Somebody has been good all of their life but has honestly not believed that you (God) actually exist. Do you punish this person when they die? No matter what your answer, please explain it.
--- I, for one, would not punish such a person. They've been good and have contributed to the world, why should they be punished? I'd much rather punish a person who hurts/kills others in the name of me (God). Those type of people would be the first I would want to punish, actually. I would much rather judge somebody on how they lived their life than whether they think I'm some crazy made-up being or not. And everybody makes mistakes; I'd be more than willing to forgive somebody for something they did. Even for something like murder. If somebody truly regrets murdering somebody, I would consider forgiving them and rewarding them when they die. Obviously if somebody genuinely don't care about the fact that they cut the live of another person short, I likely wouldn't think twice about them. Basically, I would be willing to forgive and would only judge somebody on how they lived their life. Not on whether they believed I existed or not. The only "saved" people would be the people who are good and have contributed something positive during their lives. -------------------- Overtaken by Net & Zodi on that track!
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Jun 22 2008, 09:16 AM
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Gym Leader Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: 18-May 08 From: England Member No.: 1 928 Active Squad |
Nah i wouldn't punish someone for not believing/believing in something, even if the person had been really mean like mass serial killer i wouldn't punish them that bad, no one deserves eternal suffering. Maybe a good punishment but once only and i wouldn't break bones or burn them or anything like that and then i would give them a big lecture and stick them in some kind of rehab. If i don't punish them that bad and make them happy then they have no more reason to be mean to anyone and everyones happy.
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Jun 22 2008, 12:32 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
I wouldn't punish him. Just because he didn't believe in something that sounds farfetched to many, does not mean that he should burn for it; just isn't right.
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Jun 22 2008, 01:00 PM
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Old and Retired Bug Gym Leader! Group: Members Posts: 721 Joined: 29-May 08 From: Brazil... =x Member No.: 2 000 Old Bug gym |
Of Course NOT!
Why would I(God) punish some1 simply because they dont believe in me? Humans have the right to believe in whatever they want and therefore, not believing in me isnt a crime. If I did, what kind of God would I be? sheesh... -------------------- [align=center]Current Quest: Waiting...
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Jun 22 2008, 02:05 PM
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Gym Leader Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 22-September 07 From: Somewhere, someplace. Member No.: 299 Active Squad |
Let's see...it really depends on what he means by not believing. Depending on the faith, this man's nonbelief could be both physical and spiritual. That would be tough to decide.
However, if this man was a good, upright person, helping those in need...it is those who deserve a glorious afterlife. Faith can make a person either a good person or bad, as the same with a lack thereof. Utilimately, what makes us human is our morales, not just faith, though both may intertwine. -------------------- I have claimed Kanghaskhan.
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Jun 22 2008, 02:41 PM
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Nevermore! Group: Members Posts: 1 630 Joined: 8-January 08 From: Halloween Town Member No.: 807 BLARG |
if i were God, i dont think i would punish anyone. im too much of a wuss to do anything mean. i believe there is some good in everyone and no one deserves to be punished forever.
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Jun 22 2008, 09:10 PM
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What planet you on? Group: Validating Posts: 104 Joined: 18-May 08 From: Iunno Member No.: 1 933 Active Squad |
Somebody has been good all of their life but has honestly not believed that you (God) actually exist. Do you punish this person when they die? No matter what your answer, please explain it.
Why would I? Like Wymsy said, the person was good and did good deeds throughout their lives. God is supposed to be forgiving and kind, right? So why would it matter whether the person believed in God or not? There are other more violent people out there who do believe in God yet murder others out of greed, right? God is not supposed to be selfish anyways, I would only be punishing that person out of my own selfishness (not believing in me). And that is just plain wrong. They deserve good things in return for being good and helpful during their lifetime. -------------------- LOL |
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Aug 18 2008, 08:51 PM
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#1 Creep Group: Validating Posts: 13 Joined: 17-August 08 Member No.: 2 661 Active Squad |
I wouldn't punish someone for not believing in me. If I where a god, I would want the improve the quality of the world (or, at least try to), and I would not punish those who help do that, even if not in my name.
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Sep 29 2008, 08:34 PM
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The GTS+PL Electric Gym Leader Group: Validating Posts: 92 Joined: 24-September 08 From: Brasil Member No.: 2 947 Active Squad |
O would punish because i'm evil... !!!!! lol... Just kidding.
I would not punish someone who does not believe in me if it was a good one. I think this will be there majority answer. The kindness and the good heart does not depend on religions or gods. It's a choice that anyone and everyone makes. Some does not because they're unlucky in life, just that. Others because they like to be evil!!! Like the joker lol!! |
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Sep 30 2008, 08:42 AM
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Justin Group: Members Posts: 1 223 Joined: 1-July 08 From: Northeastern Ohio, United States Member No.: 2 244 Active Squad |
i'm not gonna lie...... i would do the most epc rickroll ever.... i would "god"roll humanity. all the believers and good doers would have to sit in front of a screen playing "never gonna give you up", with my head pasted on rick astley's, for eternity. all the "fun" people would come to paradise and smoke a bottomless joint with me.
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Oct 2 2008, 10:02 PM
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Three point one four one five nine two six... Group: Members Posts: 327 Joined: 18-July 08 From: EST, New York Member No.: 2 388 Pi's Posse |
I like this question a lot. Personally, I have grown up being quite doubtful of God. Being a logical person, I am most comfortable by the guidelines of "if it can be proven, it is real." God is extremely hard to prove. I don't want to diss any believers out there, but where is His proof? We have a book, written many many years ago by a group of people whose culture and beliefs differ vastly from our own today. We also have personal accounts of people witnessing God, but how much can you trust another's experiences?
If God exists, He, unfortunately, seems like a cruel being (please don't smite me!). Corrupt people can live the high life while innocent children are born into a life of disease and poverty in third world countries every day. What is the message of life through the example that God plays out on Earth? Being a good person gives you nothing? If the Earth is a place for God to show example through people, then why is everyone not born equally? Why are the innocent turned into martyrs, and the corrupt living the life that should be promised to the good? Were the medieval priests right? Is this life just a testing ground for the next life? Or does human nature happen to play out so unfavorably without any outer spiritual forces? If God exists, his message is not clear enough for Him to expect everyone to have full faith in him. If He created humankind, then he knows that the reason he instilled in us has a natural tendency to not believe that which cannot be proven. So, if I was a God, and a person did not believe in me, but was good throughout his lifetime, would I save him? The answer: of course. Life should not be about praying five times a day in the same direction, or circumcising young males because an ancient document said that it is the right thing to do, or prohibiting two people that are truly in love with each other from joining in the most intimate of relationships solely because they are of the same sex. I think in the midst of believing and nonbelieving people have forgotten what life is truly about - being a good person, and following your own morals towards becoming a better individual. People feel good when they do something positive. Shouldn't that be what one's life be judged upon, and not upon their faith in a spiritual being? -------------------- My friend code for Pearl is 1160-9066-4343 My Friend Code for Diamond, my hack version, is 1805 5204 6808 Thanks sushikitty! CLICK FOR SOMETHING AMAZING... :3 I claim Ludicolo and Lickilicky, because no one else will protest about either of them. GTS+ Chat. Much like drugs, it's really addicting. Badges |
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Oct 2 2008, 11:16 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 21-January 08 From: Traverse City, Michigan Member No.: 916 Pwnzorz |
This will be interesting. I was raised in a Christian household, and although we didn't always make it to church, my parents have tried to raise my brothers and I as best they can while following the bible. However, due to a recent crisis of faith, and a lot of time to think, I decided that I can no longer really respect religion of any sort, let my parents think I believe.
What interests me is that humans have decided that one divine being should have control over our eternity. -------------------- Come chill here!!
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Apr 13 2009, 10:18 AM
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all we gotta do is be brave and be kind~ Group: +Donors Posts: 184 Joined: 30-March 09 Member No.: 6 782 ... |
No, I wouldn't punish such a person, because I believe that our "goodness" is somewhat determined from our interactions with other living things, so, if the person hasn't harmed others much, then there's no need for punishment, no matter if that person would believe me (as God), or not.
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Apr 13 2009, 10:59 AM
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The Sylvan Saber Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 8-April 09 From: Beyond the Mists of Time. Member No.: 9 358 Grass-Type Fanatic |
Why, thank you! (Revels in newly acquired divine status. Then files it carefully in the list of 'Things To Think About When Being Full Of Yourself Is Required'.)
If I were a God... I honestly don't think I'd have the time, energy and will to watch every single bastard out there and determine who needs to be reprimanded and who needs to be 'saved'. From my point of view, anything from the point I created them on - they did it all themselves, and they can believe whatever they'd want to believe. No hard feelings. After all I am God. I know what I'm capable of and what I'm really worth. I don't need to prove I exist to people all the time just to satisfy my ego, eh? This post has been edited by Dys Tuvai: Apr 13 2009, 11:00 AM -------------------- No longer available on GPX+ for now. Don't bother clicking me. Thank you. |
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Apr 13 2009, 02:17 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 11-April 09 Member No.: 10 265 my team |
I wouldn't if a person goes around in life and helps others and contributes to others, does that person really deserve to suffer compared to someone who was alright in life but believed in god. so he gets in and the person who helped others in no expectations for something in return.
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Apr 15 2009, 07:01 AM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 15-April 09 Member No.: 11 673 Active Squad |
No, I wouldn't punish them. They lived a good life, were nice and maybe helpful. Who cares if they didn't believe in me? They will see that I exist, and that they were wrong their whole life.
(It would be something else if the person was a bad person in their life and maybe didn't [or did] believe in me. I'd punish them so bad...~) |
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Apr 15 2009, 05:55 PM
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I AM THE KING OF ITALY Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 10-April 09 Member No.: 9 925 My Slaves |
If I were an all-powerful god, I don't think I'd be too concerned with humanity. Nonetheless, I wouldn't punish a person simply for not believing in me. If that person has lived a good life and has treated others with respect and compassion, and encouraged others to do the same, that's good enough for me. I refuse to be a thought police to others, and if someone looked at the facts and concluded there was no god, I'd respect them far more than someone who put no thought into it at all.
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Apr 16 2009, 06:57 PM
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everything is happening so much Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: 9-July 07 Member No.: 70 Active Squad |
If they were a good person, why would I care about whether or not they believed in me? My smitings will be reserved for the scum of the earth, not unbelievers. Mostly because I believe in equal opportunity smitings, and nobody should be exempt. ...I'd love to have a golem try to argue with me, actually. It wouls be fun!
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Apr 17 2009, 02:02 AM
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is one hoopy frood Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 14-April 09 Member No.: 11 406 Some of my Faves |
QUOTE Somebody has been good all of their life but has honestly not believed that you (God) actually exist. Do you punish this person when they die? No matter what your answer, please explain it. Tricky question gets a tricky answer. I'm assuming that by God you mean the Christan/Catholic/Jewish/Morman whatever God, Yahweh. If I was that god I suppose I would throw a hissy-fit and condem him to hell. That's just was Yahweh does. Then I might set all the nice people in that dead person's family on fire - JUST FOR THE HELLUVIT - and send them to hell too, because, you know, I'm Yahweh. Now, if I were a godess I would probably be a godess in a polytheistic religion, with lots of God and Godess friends to pal around with. In this case, the afterlife probably wouldn't even be in my department (I'd much rather be the Godess of the Arts or the Godess of Literature or the Godess of Snark or something like that), but assuming death is my department (not that I'd want to be the smelly garbage lady) I probably wouldn't give a damn one way or another what this person did in life. I'd appoint a lesser god to keep track of mortal deeds. Or maybe I'd set up a thing with a scale to balance a person's heart against a feather or something (no cheating by drilling holes in your heart to make it lighter!!). That seems like the best way, less paper work and all. As the Godess of Death and, apparently, Judgement After Death, I wouldn't give a damn one way or the other if people believed in me. Obviously they'd believe in DEATH (10/10 people die, in the end), but it's the other thing, Judgement After Death, that I wouldn't care if they believed in. Of course, if they DID NOT believe in Judgement After Death and decided to live a bad life (causing intentional harm by action or inaction), well, that's their problem. The way I see it, a person should want to do good while they're alive because goodness - like badness - creates a ripple affect. If you treat others the way you'd like to be treated they're more likely to do you the same service, it preserves order and ensures the survival of the human race. To do otherwise is either asinine or stupid. To hell with them! The great thing about this is that you don't need to believe in Judgement to be a good person. There are pleanty of reasons to be good IN THIS LIFE alone. Also pleanty of reasons to be bad, of course, but that's their decision. That's assuming I'd actually want to sort people out in death. Everyone could be equal in death, that would make my job a lot easier. I could have just one big waste basket marked "HUMAN SOULS". Everybody in! This system might be better (no loop holes for naughty people like Hitler!) or it might be worse (you get to spend eternity with Hitler). Frankly, I don't care. I've got more important things to do than waste my time on you people. Sure, humans are fun for the first ten thousand years, but after that all you do is Twitter and pwn n00bs on your X-Box. Yawn. If I wanted that, I'd go play Halo on MY X-Box. GOD'S X-BOX. Anyway, while you're busy rotting away all those nifty brain cells I made for you, I'll be over here on this side of the universe making super novas happen. BIG EXPLOSIONS. And I'll use the material left over from these massive explosions to create NEW planets, BETTER planets with BLACK JACK and HOT GUYS. Why? Because I'm a freaking GOD, that's why. You tiny ants are only worth my time for as long as you manage to entertain my INFINITE INTELLECT with your petty wars and violence and occasional bursts of compassion followed inexorably by extended periods of monotonus stupidity that would be an insult to the very god that created you, had I not blessed you with ignorance with the intent that your lack of understanding of the universe would drive you, in anguish, to seek and probe and discet until you stripped away every last ounce of raw material from your planet, having digested and made waste of the forbidden fruit, casting your race back into the primitive, primordial hell hole from whence I created you, you ape, you amphibion, you bacteria, you single celled organism. .... On the other hand, I guess I could just be a... a benevolent godess. .... Naw. I'd never sell any Bibles that way. This post has been edited by Sarge: Apr 17 2009, 02:05 AM -------------------- |
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Apr 17 2009, 01:51 PM
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everything is happening so much Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: 9-July 07 Member No.: 70 Active Squad |
.... On the other hand, I guess I could just be a... a benevolent godess. .... Naw. I'd never sell any Bibles that way. ...You win an internet. That made me laugh so hard. -------------------- |
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